July 7, 2011, 2 days after Casey Anthony was acquitted, Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch put the word out to the public. Should he or should he not file a lawsuit against Casey Anthony or her attorney Jose Baez? He claims he spent over $100,000 searching for Casey’s 2 ½ year old daughter, Caylee Marie. Perhaps he’s claiming this because Casey Anthony or Jose Baez asked for his help.
Where are the records of this phone call? Where is the documentation, a letter, an email? I’ve searched the documents released and haven’t found one correspondence between Casey Anthony and Tim Miller.
Did Jose Baez contact him? He hasn’t mentioned a call or an email on this matter. The only thing that Jose Baez asked Tim Miller was for access to TES records to see which searchers searched where.
This information was very important to Jose Baez because the remains of the victim were found in an area where Tim Miller searched. Even if it wasn’t the exact location, her remains were in very close proximity to where his searchers had looked but Tim Miller quickly lawyered up and those records remained sealed for over a year and are partially sealed today. Baez was only allowed to view the records. For whatever reason, we, the public may never know just how close Tim and his searchers were to Area A, the location where Caylee’s remains were officially found on December 11, 2008.
Tim Miller, founder of a non-profit organization Texas EquuSearch was deterred by high water while searching this area of Suburban Drive as he searched in early August of 2008, a week or so later, he left Orlando after losing a 4 wheeler while attempting to search the Wooded Area which is 14 houses away from the suspect. He didn’t return until August 30th when he set up base at a local Holiday Inn.
Thanks to the Sunshine Laws and Orlando local media, it’s public knowledge that it was Casey’s mother Cindy Anthony who called Tim Miller, asking for his help. And she wanted Tim Miller to look for a live missing Caylee, not a deceased toddler. Apparently Tim Miller paid no attention to Cindy nor to Casey’s farewell to him because he in all of his searches for Caylee, never searched for a live missing child.
After the shocking verdict was read on July 5, 2011, while on CNN, Tim Miller addressed the public. He was seeking public approval because he knew the staunch opinators would not be pleased with anyone who profitted off of Caylee Anthony’s death. So he took it to a vote. Should he sue Casey Anthony?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWX7iDPY3Mc
People were asked to call, email, or write to Texas EquuSearch Mounted Search & Recovery
His address was posted publicly for all who wanted to help Tim Miller decide.
P.O. Box 395
Dickinson, Texas 77539
Office: (281) 309-9500
Fax: (281) 534-6719
Toll Free: (877) 270-9500
tim.miller@texasequusearch.org
On July 12, 2011, Only days before her release from jail, Casey Anthony got the news. Tim Miller had filed a civil lawsuit against her for $112,000, the cost for his search team. Tim Miller claims it was Casey’s lies that cost him this money.
He claims that when he was leaving the Anthony home, Casey said to him, “Well thanks for being here, I know she’s alive out there somewhere… So please bring her back.”
This was the typical mantra for Casey at the time and more importantly, those words did not change Tim Miller’s type of search. When he came back a couple of weeks later, he continued searching for a body and not a live child. That’s why he took on board, 4,000 searchers, to search for remains.
During this time frame there was Tropical Storm Fay threatening Florida, entering the Gulf of Mexico.
During seven days in Florida, August 18–24, 2008, eleven people died and thousands of homes plus roads were damaged, from 60 mph (97 km/h) winds and rain waters up to 5 feet (1.5 m) deep,
August 19, TS Fay was in EVERGLADES CITY, Florida.
The Civil Lawsuit
Tim Miller refuses to cooperate with Casey Anthony. On December 20, 2011 well after making his decision, he IS suing Casey Anthony, yet he doesn’t show up in Orlando for his deposition because he whined, “Casey didn’t answer his questions.”
Casey Anthony’s attorney had this to say about Tim Miller.
“From my perspective, if you’re suing, who should have to answer questions first?” Anthony attorney Charles Greene asked WKMG-Channel 6. “The defendant or the person claiming they have some sort of legitimate case?”
The above mentioned matter has been recently resolved and Judge Munyon has decided Casey will answer two questions from a list of 15.
• Admit that you did not observe or hear George Anthony call 911 at any time to report that he or you had discovered that Caylee Marie Anthony had drowned in the swimming poll at your parents’ house on or about June 16, 2008.
• Admit that you were aware in September 2008 and October 2008 that EquuSearch was conducting searches for your daughter, Caylee.
Subsequently, Casey Anthony has denied both statements. Hopefully this will compel Tim Miller to follow through with his promise and answer questions posed to him by Anthony’s attorney Charles Greene.
As for $112,000, remember, Texas Equusearch acted as an agent of the State or Florida during the course of its business in Florida, receiving payment, equipment, support, and directions from Florida law enforcement agencies. There was also a time when Tim Miller was being considered as a material witness for the defense.
TES TIMELINE
On August 5, 2008, a Fox News crew filmed a search of The Wooded Area. The video shows no body or suspicious objects, and cameramen reported no suspicious odor.
On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (FOX News television broadcast Dec. 17, 2008)
available at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gNJdZrgg. This video can no longer be found.
On August 11th, 12th and 13th,2008, Orange County law enforcement responded to calls from Roy Kronk, a county employee who claimed to have seen a suspicious bag in the Wooded Area. An Orange County Deputy Sheriff searched the spot and found nothing suspicious.
On August 18, 2008, an Orange County Deputy Sheriff responded to a call from one Keith Williams, who claimed to have found possible evidence in the Wooded Area. No body or remains were found.
On August 30, 2008, Texas EquuSearch (“TES”), a Texas 501© (3) corporation, arrived in Orlando from its headquarters in Dickinson, TX, to search for the missing child. TES set up its base of operations at the Holiday Inn at 5750 T.G. Blvd, Orlando,FL. Personnel from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office Criminal Investigation Division (“CID”) were present at the command center.
On August 31, 2008, TES and OCSO began their search for the missing child Caylee Marie Anthony. The Orange County Sheriff’s Office Critical Incident Management Team (“CIMT”) evaluated the organization of the TES search effort and supplied the searchers with bottled water. Id. Cmdr Matthew Irwin, Sgt John Allen, and Det. Cpl. Yuri Melich represented CID. Id at 7.
On September 1, 2008, TES and law enforcement continued their search of “areas of interest” provided by OCSO. Id at 3. Sgt. Allen and Det. Melich represent CID. Id at 7.
On September 2, 2008, TES and law enforcement continued their search. CIMT set up a tent at TES’s command center. Id at 3. Cmdr. Irwin, Sgt. Allen, and Det. Melich represented CID. Id at 7.
On September 3, 2008, then-Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary provided TES with $5,000 of OCSO funds. See Appendix F. TES and law enforcement continued their search. See Appendix E at 3. Cmdr. Irwin, Sgt. Allen, and Det. Melich represented CID. Id at 7. Also on this date, Miss Anthony was released from custody following her August 29 arrest on economic charges.
On September 4, 2008, TES and law enforcement continued their search. Cmdr. Irwin, Sgt. Allen, Det. Melich, and Tanya DePalmo represented CID; a large team of CIMT and Agriculture personnel also participated in the joint search. Id at 7.
On September 5, 2008, TES and OCSO personnel continued their search. Id at3. Sgt. Allen and Det. Yurich represented CID. Id at 7.
On September 6, 2008, TES and OCSO personnel continued their search. Id at 3. Chief Ron Stucker, Det. Melich, and Investigator Kari Roderick represented CID. Id at 7.
On September 7, 2008, TES and OCSO continued their search. In the afternoon, investigative crime writer David Lohr posted to his website that he had searched The Wooded Area with TES, writing that “they [TES} were in the process of completing a thorough sweep of the area. “See Appendix G. That evening, TES called off their search for Caylee Marie Anthony. Amy L. Edwards, Heat, Bugs Don’t Deter Caylee Anthony Search Volunteers, Orlando Sentinel, Sept. 8, 2008, available at
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/com/community/news/wintergarden/orl-caylee0808sep08,0,311925.story. No remains were found.
In October of 2008, a former TES team leader informed Orange County Sergeant John Allen that, while searching with TES in September, she had searched the area where Caylee Anthony’s remains were ultimately found. See Appendix B at 2:25.
On October 14, 2008, Miss Anthony was indicted in the present case and taken into custody.
On November 8, 2008, TES began a new search. Orange County law Enforcement loaned TES a helicopter to use in the search. Updates from Search for Caylee Marie, WESH-2 Orlando, available at http://www.wesh.com/news/17929243/detail.html TES searchers did not find Caylee Anthony.
On November 15, 2008, one Dominic Casey, a private investigator under contract to Miss Anthony’s parents, George and Cynthia Anthony, conducted a search of the Wooded Area accompanied by James Hoover, another private investigator. See Appendix H at 12.
On December 2, TES opened an Orlando chapter of Texas EquuSearch. Texas EquuSearch Opens Orlando Branch, CF News-13, available at http://www.chnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/2equusearch_opens_orlando_branch.html
On December 11, 2008, law enforcement responded to a call from Roy Kronk stating that he had discovered a human skull at the edge of the Wooded Area, just off of Suburban Drive. When law enforcement arrived on the scene, they found the skeletonized remains of a small child at the edge of the Wooded Area, just off of Suburban Drive. The State has since identified the remains as those of the child Caylee Marie Anthony.
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MY PERSONAL NOTE:
I don’t dislike Tim Miller. I think his initial intentions were honorable but instead of him being mad at himself for not finding Caylee, I’d rather know that he’s pondering this and realizing that maybe, just maybe, her remains were not in that area when he searched. As for the money, it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy if he’d only say it….
“maybe the child Caylee Anthony wasn’t in The Wooded Area when I searched”
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And then I’d say “Pay The Man!
TheJBMission~
Sources:
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/casey-faces-lawsuit-possible-expenses-for-caylee-s/nDLXr/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Fay_(2008)
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2011/03/01/AnthonyMotion-8-10-3.pdf
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2012/january/370998?cmpid=twitter
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to warn you that not all of the links work. These were links the defense used when they were trying to compel TES records from Tim so now.. For reasons unknown, quite a few of the TES/Anthony links are no longer working. I have my suspicions about this.
On my sidebar, listed as “Search Called off August 12″ isn’t working either yet I know it was called off. I went hunting for some other documentation and stumpled upon something better I think so if anyone finds anything that you want to keep, you may want to save the entire page.
Just a thought..
JB, Another stunning job of reasonable and sound reporting. In my opinion TM is just like all of the other money oriented cling-ons in this case. Out of this whole “Cast of Characters”, I still trust Casey the most ! She turns out to be the ONLY ONE without motive.
JFC= JusticeForCasey
Excellent article JB! I just think he should admit it. Caylee was not there June – Dec 2008.
I will never understand how 5 or 6 different accounts of this same small patch of land were buried/over-ruled by 1 meter reader with a messed up story that changes several times.
I want ALL of the records, not just Casey’s!
I am very interested to see the Greta video from Aug 2008. I would love to find it again.
Tee Hee…Found it!
The portion that contained Baez’s interview:
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3334246&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749
If anyone knows how to save this file and re-upload it please do so.
Thanks for writing this JB!
I personally am no fan of TM. I really believe that Jose Baez didn’t want Casey to talk with him either. The Haleigh case started out with TM being a detective, not a searcher.
Isn’t it up to him what he spends his money on. It must have cost him a fortune to go to Aruba and there was plenty of searching going on there in the water.
BTW, there was another YOU Tube with Tim and his lawyer talking and Tim said that he hoped that he didn’t get a jury like Caseys, but I can’t seem to find that one either. Maybe it’s the one with Greta. The one that I saw he was all dressed up in a suit.
Anyone recognize that sign at 2:00 of above video? How does it fit with our knowledge of the remains site? I love that this video provesthere was ~0~ water on the ground August 5 2008!
Pt 2:
HGM,
They’ve changed the last one to some news about Gingrich! : /
The day that the wooded area was filmed DRY!
It was the SAME DAY that Greta was given the Anthony home tour!!!
Cindy Anthony: “I know one thing for sure, Casey knows who has Caylee but she doesn’t know where Caylee is at”
George: “They left at ten to 1:00 that day…I know that because I was watching….a Food Channels show I always watch..”
Check out the 5 min mark!
Greta: Has Casey told you what has happned to the child?
Cindy: Yes….in her own way and I can’t reveal that.
At 5:19 Greta brings up George telling Fox News that Casey had said “She’s close Dad, I know she’s close” that I’m always harping about. LOL”
Greta AUg 5, 2008 pt 2
Thanks Lolypop! I might have copied the wrong one…oopsie!
This one should work
AUg 5 2008 Pt 3 http://youtu.be/TrIsJhP2kvc
George Speaks 1: (He sells Casey out! )
1:00 mark proves this interview was after his visit with Casey
Caylee Marie Anthony George SPEAKS 1
8/3 fox (Two days before the filming of the DRY wooded area)
George’s visit w Casey where he actually tells HER that phrase:
Take notice at the begining where G tells Casey “I’m doing better now that I’ve got a chance to see you” Casey laughs (soundsl ike nervous laughter) She starts to talk and he runs right into “I love you, I miss you”. Then he goes right into “Mom loves you, Lee loves you…FAMILY…uh…(names family members) [Was this his way of reminding her that MANY family members would be hurt if she told about the incest?]
1: 20 George brings up the date and about Caylee’s “party”. He talks about how they
George talks about Caylee’s birthday and how they had talked about having a small party but now they want to have a BIG one. (Like the huge memorial rather then a small FAMILY affair?) This is where they code back and forth about when to “bring Caylee home”. Casey wants to do it by Aug 9 2008 but Geoshe wants to be out of jail when it is doen. I think she may have meant that she wanted to know that she wouldn’t be going to prison first?
George & Cindy with Greta 6:00 mark
George is discussing the gas can “incident” with Greta. No mention of cursing or snatching of cans. George’s account at this time sounds like a happy, normal, loving family
3:45 mark
Casey gets angry and tells G “Dad, I don’t care about all of that other stuff (Checks charges), I don’t care about the media, about what people have been saying about me, all of that others stuff….all I want is Caylee home but I want to be there when she comes home!” (Cries. Cries when she should be happy thinking about a reunion? I always questioned this. Why cry when thinking of what should be a very HAPPY moment? I have considered it a sign that Casey knew Caylee was dead but not where she was put by George & that she wanted George to help Caylee be found ASAP, wants Geore to “come clean”.
George: I know, I know…I know you do sweetheart…none of our lives are gonna be the same ever again after this. (I understand he could be talking about a kidnapping but I feel that he meant changed by her death (unfixable)
4:30 George talking about the “club”
4:34 Casey lets out a big sigh as she realizes that George will not help her, he is firmly entrenched in the kidnapping story & the future it holds for him, them, $$$. Casey cries harder as he speaks
4:50 cross talk. George is speaking but Casey says to herself then to him “Noneof that matters”
4:58 George says “Just know that I know she’s close, (Casey cries HARD) I can feel her, every night before I go to bed I go out and I say Caylee you’re the stars in the sky sweetheart, …mommy loves you, Jo-Jo & C-C loves you , Uncle “e” loves you, Maui, …just know that I’m doing everything I can sweetheart to help you and to help her (Casey sobs loudly again) whatever I could do. I tell you I would give my life right now, for you, for her.
Casey: I know that Dad
George: SO would Mom…this is destroying your Mother…. (Implies Threats about Cindy) Talks about Cindy being domineering, all of them being so, “we wouldn’t let you…”
Casey: It’s nobody’s fault Dad…it’s nobody’s fault. (Caylee’s accidental drowning)
George: I wish I could have opened up to you, I wish I could have done stuff, but I can’t go back. (George acknowledging he should have acted differently when finding Caylee drowned) There was times when you wanted to talk to me, I wish I would have listened more. (Casey cries hard again)
George then asks her if she would speak to someone else about Caylee
Casey replies sounding confused ” I already answered that, I mean I’ll try to the best of my ability “(This meeting with George is the ONE meeting she wanted to have with someone when asked by LE/FBI which one person she would want to speak with alone)
George continues with “I could set that up you know…” adds later ” you can talk to people without Baez being there you know”.
Casey: I understand all of that…want to be home…easier from there…want to be home, want to be there when Caylee comes home, be there with our family when that happens. I don’t wantto have to wait, you know, 3-4 days after that to…(Time length it usually takes to plan and organize a funeral?) see her.
George: Mom & I have done everything we can financially to help with this, if we could do more we would…(Very cold demeanor now) I’ve even reached out to some relatives for help with this (bail $) and THAT’S HARD TO DO
Casey: Dad, I understand that…
George: I want you to realize that everything that has already happened with your court and stuff ….goes on to talk about “what happened” to him and judges chambers etc etc
Just know that this is reality for us, for you, for our granddaughter, for your daughter, and…
Casey: Huffs and sort of rolls her eyes
George: I wish there was more that I could say or do…(Caseys sniffles loudly) you know I would do everything for her, for you (Casey huffs again and glares at him) I really would (Casey makes a loud negative sigh) Are you eatting?
Casey talks about Jose being there until “alomst midnight” last night (August 2 2008)
That’s why I want you guys to get together as soon as possible.
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Holly, really good stuff. I remember many convos between GA and KC during those jailhouse visits. I was always taken aback by KC’s tears only when she spoke to GA. It was like there was some kind of secret between them. Interesting.
JB
Thanks for the new article, JB. Great job as usual. Regardless of what water was there after Faye, water was obviously not a big barrier on August 11, 12 or 13 when Kronk first claimed he saw a skull. Water wasn’t a problem for Dominic Casey in November. Even if he was a little to the East of the exact spot, the elevation is lower there than closer to the fense. I have no doubt that searchers were in that exact spot, at least within a few feet. She was close enough to the tree line that they could have seen without actually walking into the trees. Pictures show enough openings for sun to reach into where she was. There was a lot of vegetation but not so much as to completely hide her. There was less in July-November than in December. Notice that much of the vegetation was still green and actively growing, although slowing down as temps got cooler. My cinnamon vine, a cousin to the air potato, heart shaped leaves that I believe left the ghost heart residue on the tape, grows during cool temps.
I have a couple of questions for Miller. If he were to get back the funds used for those searches, is he including his bar tab at the hotel in his total? Will he return the $5000 to LE and return the donations to the givers that were specifically designated to Caylee? I highly doubt that is his plan.
Great article! IMHO it is NeJame who pressed Tim Miller to do this. I personally believe NeJame has been Miller’s downfall into the world of Tabloid involvement. Sad because it sure devalues his organization.
I found out that I was supposed to register for WordPress with a password, etc. Tried to use my “Noni” name & it was taken. I am now using “Nonifirst”. Dawg gone it! I have used Noni forever and am sorry I cannot continue.
Huh? I am logged in as Nonifirst but it is still showing up as Noni ???? Oh well, works for me!
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BTW, I love you avatar!
That’s OK Noni, you’ll always be our #1 Noni
jB
Aahh, yes. Sometimes the road to hell is paved with good intentions……
Thank you everyone for your kind supportive words. All I’m doing is putting it out there.
HGM, you dug up some gems! Wow!
I just watched ..http://youtu.be/cIxaDko34dU
As I’m watching and listening to George,.. I could so easily replace his face and voice with Phil Garrido’s,.. kidnapper of Jaycee Dugard. Couldn’t you just imagine him speaking like this to his PO? ..lol That’s what child molesters are…great deceivers, that’s how they get away with what they do.
For me, the location where Caylee was found is the MOST ridiculous malfunctioning, ludicrous, bullshit I’ve ever come across in a murder/missing child investigation. I mean does TM really want to go here? Does law enforcement really want to go here?
I could have walked with my dog down the street, heading to the woods and stumbled across that body in late July of 2008.
What I couldn’t understand is why did LE need TM anyway? It wasn’t like they looked everywhere possible and had to ask for an outsider. They didn’t look at all from what I’ve read before TM got there. From every picture I’ve seen there was a path that lead to the body and that’s why RK chose to walk in there to urinate..it was easy access.
If a cadaver dogs missed a body that close to the roadway then they should go back and retrain the dogs…unless it’s just smoke and mirrors we’ve been told about dogs. Maybe they really aren’t that reliable… IDK but in retrospect, looking at this case, I’m convinced that either she wasn’t there or LE should hide under a rock and so should TM.
IMO, this is LE and JA’s little secret…they know.
To Whoever:
When one thinks of a “cadaver dog”, one must realize that the odor of decomposition is not necessary. Cadaver dogs are just that…they are trained to search out the scent of cadavers…this is why they’re able to retrieve bones buried for years.
Didn’t Dominic Casey and Hoover film searching for the remains? I remember the video shown in the courtroom and DC had a tool he would use. It was like a metal stick he would poke the ground with. They searched exactly where the remains were found.
Also, Dr. Spitz testified that the sediment he found in the skull indicated the remains had been moved.
I don’t understand what more proof is needed! As you so clearly outline in your article, JB, there is mounds of proof the remains were not where they were found. I can’t understand what Tim Miller is doing.
Thank you for the article JB. I am always willing to discuss this discovery and the circumstances surrounding it. After 3and 1/2 years, we are all still mind boggled as to what happened at this crime scene. Nobody can make sense of it. The only thing that makes sense to me is that the body was placed there sometime in November. Long enough for the vegetation to grow up through some of the items. After the duct tape placement fiasco, I am finding it hard to believe anything authorities are saying about the crime scene. Were there really roots growning up through, or did someone exagerate that. ?
Here is the one thing that is consistent with makeing absolutely no sense what so ever!!:
RK called in illegal weapons in a field or woods. When LE arrived, there were no weapons found.
That is the key consistencey with the non sense crime scene.
This guy has some reason for this. I just can’t pin point it.
Hi there Eagle,
I’m signed out right now..btw
I remember hearing Dr. G describe the plant growth as “rootlets”. I think there’s a big difference in rootlets as opposed to fully developed roots. And who’s to say that the body wasn’t moved?
I agree, none of it makes sense.
Good point about the dogs, JB. A good one would have noticed from the car, IMO and one was parked right there, according to one interview. But also, dogs were out of the car. Remember too, the body hunter’s dog. It went the other direction, away from where Caylee was found on Aug. 11.
Back to the latest pic that is being passed around, I found these comments very interesting:
I have no idea who this person is but I wonder, a typo or exposure they are trying to cover up?
Also, I found out that 2 people very involved in this whole thing had a judgement brought against them last fall, owing some money that appears to still not be paid back. These suits followed just months after they were both found guilty of not paying city taxes for several years and they paid a lot of money following these cases. Now, the taxes could have been an oversight. My ex worked in a city that had a tax and even though he didn’t owe any tax they expected him to file the taxes. So that one doesn’t bother me but the other does, because there is suspicion that these picks were stolen, a claim that they were on a pay per view site and media perhaps being involved with some payments made. Do we know if media bought any rights for sure? Also, these people used to live in Polk county and now live in Ohio. Has anyone determined where in Ohio the TMZ video was shot?
Two thoughts come to mind…could they be the ones that caught her on camera and sold it to tmz? Might they have befriended her there and got access to her computer trough her sharing her email address?
I always found it quite interesting that LP knew the body was found and even announced it on NG. How did he know? If anyone can find that clip I’m curious to
See how far in advance LP knew about the body being found. LP is also a mystery. Imo
LOL, thanks jb! Think I have it figured out now. Had to log in using the icon. Am posting this now to see if it works.
Casey Anthonys statement given under oath is she did not know of the search by TES
that its perjury – she did know and there are going to be many people to testify that she did know including her parents (unless Cindy is going to perjure herself again). I guess she just cant help being the liar she is – but hopefully this time she wont get away with it.
Once again, brilliant article, JB!!
Great comments too by everyone!
I have lost my sound on my computer so have been watching the video’s without it. It is kind of neat to see the body language, facial expressions that way. I re-watched GA’s “break down” on the stand. I just want to know how many video’s of people crying did he watch? How long did he practice in front of a mirror? It looks sooo totally fake (and very feminine) when he puts his hand delicately up to his mouth! He did this thing with what looked like holding his breath and straining to try to cry. When he wrinkled up his face there were NO TEARS even though he reached for a tissue and wiped his nose and eyes. Darn, without sound it looks so incredibly fake!
The look on Casey’s face as he does his act is one of complete betrayal and disgust. Especially during his questioning about the gas can. It is obvious that she is reacting to LIES. I can’t imagine having a parent take the witness stand and completely lying about you/things. What a horrible thing to do to your flesh and blood!
OK, have any of you seen this on any national news? What is the media afraid of? A Georgia court has subpoenaed Obama, to force him to prove he is a citizen, in order to be eligible to run for president, according to law. This should have been done before the last election. Oh well, better late than never. His attorney tried to quash, the judge denied but both the attorney and Obama were a no show anyway. I guess he figures he’s above the law. They expect a ruling by March.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/judge-rules-obama-must-prove-presidential-eligibility-in-georgia-courtroom-on-thursday/
http://mableton.11alive.com/news/news/99995-judge-hears-argument-oust-obama-georgia-ballot
Zuben….I heard about that (with the Georgia lawsuit), and I feel the same way you do. There is also an officer by the last name of Arapaio (or something like that) who is building a boat load of evidence to prove that Obama is ineligible to hold office. Like you said, why not before he was sworn in the first time….but I’m kinda anxious to hear what the guy has to say. There is already a deal with the SSN he took……it belonging to a gentleman in CT who passed away. He has never lived in CT……
Lots of stuff going on in the world today!! whew! It makes your head spin trying to soak it all in!!
Great article JB I have never believed she was there the entire time! It was summer people were always outside how would they not smell something. I have always heard that is a very distintive (SP) smell. It is a smell like no other! How did nobody ever notice it. Also I would think that the kids in the neighborhood played in those woods on a regular basis. I know when we lived close to the woods a few years ago my kids were always in them playing.
Good Evening! : )
Perjury is the “willful and corrupt taking of a false oath in regard to a material matter in a judicial proceeding.” It is sometimes called “lying under oath;” that is, deliberately telling a lie in a courtroom proceeding after having taken an oath to tell the truth. It is important that the false statement be material to the case at hand—that it could affect the outcome of the case. It is not considered perjury, for example, to lie about your age, unless your age is a key factor in proving the case.
THEOU!!
This I believe is about whether Casey ASKED for Tim Miller’s help. AND BTW, how do you know what Casey knew and didn’t know? You just kill me, what happens if she said she didn’t know. Do you remember she was put in jail the 16th of July. She didn’t know too much about what was REALLY happening in the outside world.
BTW!!! Did you happen to hear the lies from the prosecutions witnesses? Would you call that perjury? What should happen to them?
4000 searchers from Tim Miller’s team! How many others were searching. If I said under oath that I didn’t know Tim MIller was searching or he had 4000 searchers would I be lying. How can you keep track and record of 4000 searchers? YOU CAN’T! You don’t know who they are what their background is and that is very important. THat’s all this civil suit is about. You’re hoping they get something on Casey.
I hope that they ask Tim Miller did you say on camera that you hope you don’t get a jury like Caseys. I REALLY DO!
And did why Kronk have three different stories! If you didn’t do anything wrong then why 3 different stories. I NEVER trusted him. Who tells their kid (that he didnt speak to often) that he was getiing lots of money before she was ever found!
Omar, I hadn’t heard until now that the SS# belongs to someone else but I did look very closely at the birth certificate before the election and thought it looked like a fraud compared to a real one from Hawaii during the same time frame. His natal chart for the other place of birth fits him better than the one he is claiming for Hawaii too.
Have a good night all. I’m off to watch Criminal Minds or something similar. I discovered a show called Lie to me that is really good too.
Lie to me is a great show, Zuben.
Also, with regards to the birth certificate…..the hospital name listed on the long form he produced IS NOT the name that the hospital was operating under in 1961….when he was allegedly born there. If you google that hospital name, you will find that that particular name did not come into existence until several years AFTER he was supposedly born there.
Theou, Theou, Theou….
It does NO GOOD to try to speak logically to folks like you, because you have your mind hell bent on revenge simply because you don’t like Casey Anthony. Ok….so be it. But please don’t do us the disservice of coming here with your brain-dead drivel and try to convince us it’s conversation.
Perjury?? How do YOU know that Casey knew that TES was searching in September and October of 2008? Let me guess……you SAW her in an interview with Nancy Grace. Or maybe with Kathi Bellich? No? How about Tony Pipitone? OR was it the exclusive she did with Greta VanSustern? How about the spot she did on Geraldo? Tell me, which of the interviews with Casey Anthony did you watch where she stated that she KNEW that Tim Miller and TES were searching in Orlando during September and October of 2008?
Because the fact of the matter is that Casey Anthony NEVER did an interview….PERIOD. Casey Anthony never requested that TES come to Orlando and search. As a matter of fact……Casey Anthony was told by her attorney in JULY to NOT discuss the case with anyone. If you look at the documentation, you will find that TES was called in because Mark NeJame suggested that Cindy get them involved. We all know that went south….and they left. They returned at the request of LE…..NOT Casey. So please oh wise and brilliant one…….enlighten us as to how you KNOW that Casey knew that TES was searching in Orlando for Caylee in September and October of 2008…..
I’m waiting.
Thank you FloridaCoyote!
You can thell when the haters get restless and worried.
Come crying over here with their BS.
That was absolutely a cry for “let’s get Casey on anything”
“just find it”
They’re desperate!
They’ve all been desperate since JUly 5, 2008 and it’s an ugly show.
So true Firefly!
In fact Kronk lied all through his testimony. Even the prosecuters didn’t bring up his name
in the begining. That’s how bad he was. What did he get for perjury, not just once, not a damn thing and it wasn’t even brought up. In the civil case from Tim, they may have to call Kronk again. I’m sure that they will. e too
GCG,
LP was another “just want to be around, nosey”. If I find that clip, I’ll send it. HGM always finds them. : )
Thanks Loly!,,
Happy Friday everyone! It’s been a long and arduous two weeks on my end. JB excellent article. You cleared up all the questions I had about this lawsuit. Lolypop “desperate” is the perfect adverb to describe these people’s intentions. They are desperately hoping something will come out that will prove them right and as adamant as they sound, I think they do question all this and fear they have been wrong for the last three years. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so invested in all this. Everytime, something logical is posted, they freak out everywhere they can online.
HGM, your comments are brilliant and you synethesize the large amounts of info well. Yes, Casey did try to point LE in the right direction. I could see the code she was talking in but couldn’t decipher it. You are a great decoder.
In addition, all the comments posted on the latter post as well as this post helped me answer the questions I had while trying to catch up. I really wish I had watched this case unfold in 2008 and not during the trial this summer:) Thank you.
Zuben don’t get too attached to “Lie to Me”, it hasn’t been renewed for another season. Sorry
(((HUGS)))
JB Great article as always.
Has anyone else noticed that the article about Hornsby has been removed from the caseyanthonyisinnocent site? I thought she went a bit to far when she included his e-mail address. Anyway it’s gone from her site with no explaination & the comments have also been removed.
Hum, I wonder if she got a cease & desist order?
Lisa i did notice that too. Your guess is as good as mine.
Oh and this business about casey looking high and people bothering P&P over her – that’s like saying, “I used to be a stoner so i know what one looks like so you gotta to violate her!” I would think her parole officer feels more sympathy than anything else. Who likes to be told how to do the job in which they were trained? I know that would irk me as it would anyone. These nonsensical reactions may generate more sympathy than anything else with respect to the people working with her.
Hi Lisa!! I didn’t notice that the article had disappeared. Hmmmm.
Sonja…..you are so right in your 10:40 comment. I’m sure that these people who are constantly trying to get her PO to violate her for something are actually HELPING her case. If I were her PO, I’d be sorely agitated by the stupidity…..and I’d likely release her early just so that the idiots would leave me alone.
Are these people too stupid to realize that Casey has to submit to drug testing?? The look like real morons when she tests clean. And trust me, she has tested clean or she would have been in violation by now and it would be all over the news.
Florida Coyote, i read some dumb comment where someone actually said P&P was corrupt because they hadn’t violated her over her alleged involvment with Rob. I highly doubt, if Casey did talk with this person, that online convo counts as involvement. Plus, she has to be involved in some kind of crime with said felon. I hope they release her early. She should’t have been on probation in the first place!
And off but sort of on topic: the comments that irritate me the most are when people say something along the lines of, “hey i was molested and i didnt do this and i watch my kids, and i do this and this so SHE MUST BE GUIlTY; as if there is some cookie cutter reaction to childhood sexual abuse. Pfft! * I’m stepping off my soapbox now*
Oh Sonja….How VERY right you are! You said a mouthful. Those people are showing their ignorance in a BIG way. And you are so right……Casey exhibits classic signs of traumatic abuse. I don’t know who these ding bats think they are to base Casey’s guilt on their own personal experiences…..but I’m quite certain that those who spend hour upon hour each and every day in front of the computer obsessing about Casey Anthony have problems which loom MUCH larger than any that Casey has shown. Yes, it’s horrible that her daughter died tragically. Yes, she behaved in a way that is different than most might have reacted. But that doesn’t make her guilty. And it doesn’t make the keyboard pecking ding-a-lings qualified to render psychiatric, legal, or religious judgements.
HGM, 5;31
That phone call from George to Cindy was unbelievable!
He talks about the media, how he’s going to help other missing kids and when Casey says she just wants Caylee, he rambles on again.
Caey is in jail, no connections and is frustrated as hell. That’s another time she was just provoked, no way to find out anything.
I agree with JusticeForCasey, to me imo, Casey is more honest than any of them.
George says he should have talked more, well, he sure is having no problem talking to Casey between walls.
IF anything that phone call sounds so much, like he’s worried about George, surely not Caylee and Casey.
And when Casey gets so frustrated and says no one cares about me, she’s saying “PLEASE LET ME TALK” but they don’t want that to happen. They never listened before.
Florida Coyote… LMBO!! Priceless response to Theou. It was soooo funny! I had tears in my eyes..lol
Zuben, I don’t know how I feel about “Obama & His Birth Certificate” It’s like its this ongoing mystery that just can’t seem to be solved. I’m just hoping over hope that someone checked it before he ran the first time. It can’t be that hard to get a copy of a birth certificate..can it? Do you know how much a Republican would pay a clerk in Hawaii for a copy? She/he would never have to work a day in their life. I just wish he’d show it, so they’d move on. Politics drive me crazy. I avoid it as much as possible.
Wow Lisa, are you serious?!!!! I’m surprised Hornsby would be such a whiner…hmm. He can give it, he just can’t take it huh?
PS..regarding Obama..What about school records? College application? Geesh, we can put a man on the moon and we can’t get Obama’s BC! <– That's what my Mom, JB would say..lol
I do believe Caylee’s body was moved. I have never heard any to satisfy from Roy Kronk that her remains were in the exact same place each time he was there and disturbed her. I can assume that LE knew there was a moveing and Tim Miller was caught up in the LE’s speculative tale.
Although TM is a respectable man, he needs to come clean and stop blaming Casey for his position. This, is at least one area where she was not calling the shots and had nothing whatsoever to do with his error in a proposed search. Something is not registering right with all
the TM issues.
Sonja,
I totally agree with you. Every one is different and we all respond differently to trauma. What would affect you, might not affect me and visa versa. Nothing is cookie cutter with human beings.
I try to read what the Other Side is saying but I can’t get thru the name calling and the cliches.
Even I got tired of Asston and PePe..You can only type it out so many times. It’s boring.
Also, I just reread my article and I want to make it clear, that I don’t feel TM deserves any money from Casey but if he’d man-up just once toward the “masses”, at least I’d have more respect for him but I’m absolutely positive that he’d never do that..so in essence, I really don’t want him to get a penny.
Additionally, I’d like to see his and Padilla’s W-2′s for 2008/2009 and compare it to 2006/2007. I’m sure both of them made more money, “gross” I mean before they make their deductions.
TM probably made out like a fat rat because he runs a non-profit and I’m sure Padilla has several deductions too. Shame on them both.
Comment,
I agree with you. I’m with GasCanGeorge.. I don’t know why LP made that statement on the NG Show..on Dec 8th, he says “what if they already have a body..” <- paraphrasing. Then lo and behold, Dec 11th they find Caylee. That blew my mind.
It got me wondering.. Did LE already have a body? And if so, why would they not announce it?
Maybe TM searched that area thorougly and LE knew it…Then maybe they searched again in Oct or Nov and the body appeared. Would LE keep silent, knowing that this would help Casey?
Or maybe LE set up a video camera in the woods to see if anyone would come back??
It's baffling.
Sonja I just left a comment for you at the Discuss Anything site.
Guess who’s face is on the MSN’s home page (yesterday & today) so far. Casey’s. Under Popular searches Quotes of the month. Top right side (the first place you look on a page for marketing)
She is number 11 of 22 for the Quote of the month.
Comment,
I agree something is wrong with the whole TM issue!
Tim Miller should be ashamed to want money for his Non-Profit organization.
IF Caylee was in the suburban drive woods when his 4,000 strong team searched there and everywhere , they failed. They admitted failure in mid August, Apparently ready to pack and go, Orlando Florida opens a new Chapter of TES , maybe as a way of “cutting their losses” (or writing the whole experience off Totally) BTW tim gets national attention either way. TM, I appreciate all you do to find missing , abducted , and exploited children. But in this case, I believe you were a day late and $112,000 short.
I used to like to read Nancy Grace Mysteries (oops, I meant Nancy Drew… Nancy Grace is a Fictitious character)
This one could be the “case of the wandering body”
Hey, I just listened to 5 and a half Hours of Jeff ASShton reading his book “Imbecile Justice” ……..
NOOO, I did not BUY it. And it did not come free with my Jeffrey Asshton panties order, Let’s just say that for those that want to subject themselves to a few more hours of loser crybabyism, the internet has you covered.
I have to quote one particularly obnoxious statement by Mr Ashton…. Mason then allowed Cheney Mason to speak, and ” He spouted VAGUE PLATITUDES about the US Constitution”…..
Is that really what you thought of Cheney Mason’s closing , Jeff?
If it is, maybe you should withdraw from the race for States attorney, there are AT LEAST 12 people in Florida that STILL believe in the constitution .
I read an interesting update on the Bringkidshome memorial project. They’ve managed to raise over $150,000 and are bragging that they support what ever is necessary to keep the Anthonys, attorneys and media from making any money connected to the loss of a child. He berates the Anthonys and all the local media outlets for not donating anything. He has added a cd for sale, a single called Caylee Marie, a Rememberance by Alexander Ceruzzi. It sounds nearly identical to I did it my way. Wasn’t that a Frank Sinatra song? It’s $15 for a single, all proceeds going to the org. On the author’s website he also offers an autographed copy for $30 and a video version that uses some other child’s pictures. I googled to see what else comes up for this song and author. I see through the comments that he gave it to Sierra back in 2009 after he offered it to the As to use at the memorial and they turned him down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=belwGLuwDJk Commenters are saying it was so rude of them but I suspect they recognized the melody of this MelodyMan, just as I did.
If Obama was CIA, it would be understandable the mystery…….Just sayin
I see the slide account is active again. Some of the old comments from August, not all, were reposted and there are recent ones too, from yesterday and today. Lots of new guestbook visitors too. Everybody’s playing where’s Waldo. I watched that account for a while but missed what was put up during the late night and taken right back down. The one partial nude that is an obvous photoshop came from there on August 24. After reading some of these comments it looks like they created a chat group there, not on facebook. That site will be taken down in March. I have swung back and forth about who is doing the activity there but one thing that is for sure, if someone stole her account she could easily have put a stop to it by now. So why not? I can only think of a couple of possibilities.
GCG, I have always thought it strange that a newbie or unknown rises out of the streets of Chicago and is elected president. Yes, we are ripe for a minority to be elected, but the larger minority is the female population that have been denied equal opportunity. I would have thought a woman would be elected as the first to break the ‘good ol boyz’ network. After reading how he went about competing for his former position, I wondered who is backing him and what their agenda is. Why choose someone who has their heritage or birth right challenged? Why choose someone who has a family member here as an illegal? Last I heard she was still lying to officials trying to get assylum after being denied and was living in government paid for housing in Boston. Obama was claiming to know nothing about her illegal status during the same time Casey was accused of lying.
I haven’t caught all the way up yet but wanted to go ahead and get this to you guys. If someone already posted it, sorry for double posting.
GasCanGeorge
January 27, 2012 at 11:56 am
World famous bounty hunter, Leonard Padilla, knows exactly how meter reader Roy Kronk found Caylee Anthony’s body. Padilla posted the following on his Twitter page:
Before the 11th of August, during an attorney client visit at the jail, Casey told Baez what she “wanted” to tell him as far as drowning, her dad, and where the body was. Law Enforcement heard the conversation but could not go out there and get the body because the media would’ve torn them apart. How, when, what, etc. And some cop would have lost his pension. So Law Enforcement maneuvers a situation to where Michelle (who is Kronks live in girlfriend, who works at the jail) gives Kronk the info. He goes out there on the 11th, 12th and 13th but cannot find the body. Because Casey told Baez she tripped on some pavers when she went out there. Kronk keyed in on the wrong pavers. He was 75 ft away from where the body was. Pressure was on Law Enforcement at that time to find the body. I went on Nancy grace on December 9, 2008 and said “within TWO days LE will come up with the body.” At that time Kronk was redirected and found the body on December 11, 2008. The PI’s were out there on the 14th and 15th of November taking pictures. They were directed by someone by Baez’s direction. LE cannot admit to have listened to an Attorney/Client conversation neither can Baez admit he had knowledge as far back as August 2008.
http://www.tweetdeck.com/twitter/LeonardPadilla/~58S9g
Recorded live on February 8, 2009 8:45 PM CST
LP CHAT NetDetectives 2-8-9
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1137570
(Discusses Mark Fuhrman)
http://www.myspace.com/video/gavel/leonard-padilla-thinks-caylee-was-murdered-around-1-a-m/47971358
Jose Baez Today show 12-9-08
12-09-08 Nancy Grace
Baez’s 12-9-08 Today show interview from that morning was included wherein he says that Casey is 100% innocent and that THEY still believed Caylee was ALIVE and that they would be going into Trial (at that time- pre-body discovery) with that strategy. Later LP is on @ 7:30 saying “We all know that Caylee is dead. We all know exactly when Caylee died. She died in June! Don’t be surprised if LE/FBI don’t show up to say that they already have the body”
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JOSE BAEZ INTERVIEW 12-10-08
Baez interview where he discusses a toy drive, video footage of possibly Caylee & supeaneas being filed to retrieve it,talks about tips & motions about sightings ie: specifics not just suggestions as they had been recieving from LE. Talks about mis-reporting by media. Discusses that it has been insinuated that they don’t care about the search for caylee and that is totally wrong, they do care and have not been given full disclosure of the tips etc.
He wants tips about SIGHTINGS of Caylee Marie Anthony & nothing more. Bad reporting. Hinderances of prospective tips because of problems over non-intrest in bogus type tips.
No one will EVER convience me that the remains “discovery” just 2 days later was coincidental.
Casey Anthony parents Larry King Live part 1 of 2 (Dec 10, 2008)
http://youtu.be/yf2G9g-Eh1o
http://youtu.be/9fs3tRPAbHQ (pt 2)
Wow, HGM! I’m speechless. WOW!
Leonard Padilla’s LE/FBI interview Sept 18 2008 Pt 1
http://youtu.be/K5f0ImRzPb4 pt 2
(Listen to the early staements before they realize that the recorder is back on lol)
He agrees that the Jesse Grund card was “creepy to be talking about his girl’s 2 yr old daughter) Talks about asking George “Didn’t you jack her up?”.
http://youtu.be/tMM8KU4ENqY pt 3
Talks about Rob Dick being “on his own” when they travel. “He has his own company” Talks about who ran what while they were there. Talks about the threats they had received since arriving in Orlando. Hurdles about protecting Casey.
http://youtu.be/x394teas-M8 Pt 4
AT the beginning LP says “I didn’t come 3000 FN miles for nothin! Tell em! Tell Em! Suddenly there’s muffling of the recorder and you can clearly hear the mic being covered for 10 seconds while they hand signal to LP to stop. Then LE asks LP a question changing the subject. He claims it took several days to figure how everything because George would talk about one part and Cindy would talk about another part. They were guarded about what they would talk about. No guns in the house rule by George/Anthonys. He no longer believed anything to do with ZFG but perhaps she was aiming us toward Blanchard. Up until then (?) I believed she was alive and someone was helping hide her. Casey told him “Stop talking to me like a COP or get the hell out of my house!” Texts betweent Rob Dick & Tracy about George being violent with Casey. Casey’s response to that was “Quit acting like a FN cop and act like a Father for ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!” George wa lunging for Casey, Cindy shoos her out. George shouting “I want to know the truth about my granddaughter! I want to know the truth GD it!” Casey: Stop acting like a cop!…”
http://youtu.be/qd4WyblPUlw Pt 5
Picks up with the “alleged” DV incident. (Nice guys, fn morons) How do you know it took place? LP: We heard…and Rob & Tracey were text messaging back & forth and she explained more to us. It was loud enough to hear the comotion. Media even heard it. It was loud & Vocal & more then 1 voice, several. I believe it was Friday (After being bailed out of jail. Welcome home Honey!) After he confronted her Casey NEVER SAID A WORD TO HIM. Who took her to attorney? Rob Dick.
Part 1 Tracy McLaughlin interview with police 9/19/08
http://youtu.be/fUuD7959cqk (Tracey’s attorney was present)
Casey’s high bail was considered unjust by LP and that peaked his interest and she got involved after that. LP was concerned that Casey would suicide without revealing Caylee’s whereabouts (like Melissa Duckett). LP wanted someone in there with 100% of the time. After they bailed her out only Tracey was allowed to be with Casey without Jose present. 100% of the time TRACEY was the only person allowed to be alone with Casey without Jose present. Jim, George’s friend from Ohio (Doesn’t remember or know his last name) was around. She’s the type that if you just shut up and let her talk she’ll go on and on and on…(Laughs) . Rob & LP there & Jose told them no one allowed to be around her without me. Jose told her: If she starts to tell you anything please call me. Homecoming strangeness: She comes in happy as can be. I want to take a shower. Nothing about Caylee. Sneaking her food in the jail. Not even upset. Nothing about her daughter. & Geo didn’t say anything & Cindy didn’t say anything. NONE of them talked about Caylee. A real happy time. Used her phone to pretend like she wasn’t listening and Casey told Cindy (about the shovel) “Well, they didn’t even have the timeline right! Hello! I used the shovel to push the bamboo down..get the ladder out of the pool” then Cindy looks at her like “Shut-up!” George walks in shaking his head . I’m not supposed to see. Shaking his head and getting something in the cupboard. That’s when she said “getting the ladder out of the pool” To knock the bamboo down…
Holly’s!
That is it!! I’ll be revisiting and reading up this evening……It’s looking more and more like LP was hired by Yuri and crew. That’s just my opinion….
DANKE!
LP is the master behind all the BS spewing on NG…..JMOO
Zuben,
I respect the “Office of the Presidency” but not the people who get the job…….
The only “Change” we got is whats left in our pockets”
My opinion, Kennedy helped Obama get in, after all he needed help to pass his Healthcare Plan which inturn Kennedy was totally unsuccessful……..How long did Kennedy try and was turned down? Just about as long as he was senetor……
If Obamacare(Kennedy’s (CARE) isn;’t overturned we are doomed IMOO…..
Was Kronk undercover working for the Keystone Cops?
Great job tracking all this down again, HGM. My problem with believing LP’s theory is that if LE snooped illegally, they would be quite aware of Kronk calling three times, plus calling the crime line and Cain going out there. Melich would have made sure that Cain found her if she was there to find. They could easily set up a legitimate search with LE and their dogs throughout the neighborhood. They didn’t bother. They could have helped TES find her but they didn’t. They had multiple legitimate ways to find Caylee and they failed so I don’t believe they overheard Casey say anything. Actually, I think Padilla p!$$ed off LE. Also even Rob Dick doesn’t have lots of respect for him, according to his own comments at WS. He’s all for show. Yes, it is strange that he made a comment about them having her body before her location became known but if anything I think it happened a little different. Here’s another theory.
Perhaps she was actually left at the end of suburban where the young men found the rope with stick tied to the end and burried. Remember? That’s the report that was listed as a sex crime and the officer told them it was a bomb. What kind of bomb was that, a sex bomb? Wasn’t there also a bone that some of the TES searchers were sure was human in that same woods? Anyway, what if she was found much earlier, in that woods and the condition they found her in, the evidence, supported a sex crime, not the murder by a mother? They would need to hold on to her for a while till the evidence disappeared. What better place to put her than one that is less easy to search, without a drive in road and even closer to Casey’s home. The end of Suburban makes more sense to leave her because you can do it without being seen. A car parked where Caylee actually was is so visible from the corner and houses. It makes no sense. I’ve looked close enough at Casey’s records to know if she put her there it would have been in broad daylight, unless she died and was placed there before daylight on June 16. George is the one that had opportunity during dark after that and he would be smart enough to go to the end of the road, even drive in a ways so that as cars drove on Suburban to turn onto Hopespring, the lights wouldn’t shine on him and his car.
I don’t buy for a minute that they found out where Caylee was from Casey. There could have been something shady going on but not that, IMO. Let’s not forget too, their case would only be stronger, the closer to July she was found, if they had a case against Casey to begin with.
She has NO GRASP ON REALITY>>> she doesn’t! She changed the subject whenever Tracey would bring up Caylee. CONSTANTLY.
http://youtu.be/SgnJpDIvUDY Pt 2
She only wanted to talk about herself. She showed her what LP could do. If anybody could find her it would be him. OK, I’ll talk to him. Is it ok with your mom? Yes. So we had LP come in the house & question her. Sitting on the couch & Casey starts with ZFG story LP says BS! Don’t start w that crap. Casey: That’s what happened. LP: Don’t do that..I’m here to find her. Don’t pull that crap. Casey: You don’t know what happened. You need to leave!. I was smoking and she come back there and said “I knew it! He’s just acting like a scumbag cop” I apologized and said Well we still have to find her so let’s talk to Rob (Dick) Talks about Howard Stern show (I suspect she was joking..duh) She’s flirting w Rob Dick. Talks about the sunglasses game. She made Tracey wear a watch on her ankle so she would have a monitor too. She’s a very likeable girl. If not for this you would like her. Very likeable.
Talking about what she would hear while at Jose’s office (OMG!) Talks about Casey being on MS/FB etc. Looking for clues. Little lies she would say…probably really stupid…I ate olive garden and we eat Wendys..then say she wasn’t eatting etc. Believes she was coached by Jose to seem sad/upset about Caylee. Air samples are back..I’m shaking, she’s seeing it on the news. She looks at the tv and says “Lots of people had access to that car”. Then elaborate on that the next day with Rob “Lots of people had access to that car”. (George maybe?) Jose pulls out a birthday card for Caylee. Seems like something that should be written to a lover or a wife and it was written to Caylee on her first birthday. Trying to put this off on Jesse because he cared so much about Caylee. Jose released it to lead us in a direction & we knew that. (Laughing)
http://youtu.be/8BjtgiamjA4 Pt 3
She watched some of the local news and some of LP on NG. It pissed her off. I’m trying to keep a good relationship with her & Cindy. The media was a game to her. She had a story about every piece of clothing she owned. We watched The Hills. Casey’s talking about Roofies, date rape drugs, & brings up chloroform. (Well, duh! She was worried about the date rape aspect of RICO’s picture! Maybe worse.) Photo on Rico’s MS. Cindy told me to check that out. Cindy’s only complaint was “They’re not looking for Caylee” and no one was. I’m still believing Caylee is alive. If my family we would jump at any sighting but they didn’t. I only talked to her once after I left. Why did Cindy tell you to look at it? It was posted at Websleuths or something like that. Another little story, Casey’s on the computer. I texted Rob OMG I think I heard her cry. I come out & some guy on MS says Hey I think you’re hot& she was laughing. I said oh I thought you were crying. She’s playing this song Sevendust I want you to hear it. Play it again. Plays it a third time. Listened to it 13 times in just that one sitting. Plays song later. OMG This song reminds me of my life & Cindy starts crysing. We listened to it every single day.
http://youtu.be/Uzl-imuu_ps Pt 4
Talks about the song, she doesn’t understand it. I’m up, I’m down..emotional rollercoaster. Good song. Casy could listen to it and enjoy it but Cindy would lose it. Portrayed that family got along well, denied to Rob there was a fight. The DV between G & Casey? That 1st morning I was there I could hear screaming by George. Could be heard from across the street. Act like my father! Then a loud boom. We could hear everything that happened. Cindy came in and stopped it and Jim walked out. Did Casey talk about this to you? Casey just said “I can’t havethat…I can’t have that.” Nightime in her room on time, George walks to his friend Jim and says “I’m not going to live this lie” “If she couldn’t trust her own family to raise her kid” I think he was asking her where’s her body. It sounded like there’s this huge lie going on. After that 1st blow up that morning he wouldn’t talk to her, wouldn’t go near her. Jose was coaching Casey about media relations and not talking inside the house, using another case to show her how it could be used against her. 1st night she was out. She teared up. Her dad was sitting close but Jim held Casey’s hand. George didn’t. George would be appologetic to Tracey about Casey & them having to be there. Lee didn’t like me. He didn’t want Casey talking to me. He was kind of rude but not obnoxious. He probably didn’t like what I was doing..why I was there. Pizza was delivered to them that first night. Lee claimed the pizza but later didn’t. (Rumor is protestors sent pizzas to them) Casey would listen to her mom with the protestors from the window. Cindy was putting her 1st signs up.
http://youtu.be/nHRmvIamJU8 Pt 5
Casey thought the protestors were idiots (Me too!) What happened the night she was arrested? What happened leading up to that? We were watching NG (laughs) and protestors were out there and Cindy wanted to call 911. Approx 6 mins later was see a cop car come up we all thought they were there because we had called 911 over the protestors. Then they start coming up the lawn. Casey was on the phone, I think with her brother. Lee would tell them that they didn’t have to let LE in when they would come to the house. Casey would say Well what am I suppose dto do” so yeah it was Lee on the phone. When they came in they wouldn’t tell her what charges she was being arrested for. Cindy kept tellingthem “Just tell us what charges, where’s your warrent” Answer: It’as at the office Cindy: Well then you can’t take her” LE: Cindy yes I can, I’m not going to argue with you” Cindy: Well pull into the garage” Le: We’re not going to do that shit” and took her right out the front door. What happened after Casey was arrested? In the house? Cindy and I were alone and we started talking about you know…what do you think happened? what do you think she did? Do you think she could have lost her at the mall? Then I get a call from LP Get you stuff, you’re getting out of there. I made excuses to Cindy to leave. Jim had left by then correct? Um hum… Did anything change after Jim had left? Les tension? about the same? About the same A little bit less George just started ignoring her. (Refused to come clean IMO) The day after the air samples came out we were at the attorney’s and Jose was leading Lee & Cindy out the back door to talk to them Really really secretive. This is when the big change happened. The wind went out of the family’s sails, then some lady who supposedly saw her at the airport came in and talked to them. They proved that it probably wasn’t Caylee. The wind went out of their sails after that. (Did Jose confront them about the truth?) Jose admitted that the sighting wasn’t Caylee. Lady came in with her son I think her name was Wanda. How did Casey feel about Jose? Ooooww Well at one point she loved Jose, thought he was a great attorney First timewalking out under the umbrella he told her in her ear to hold her head up high, she was innocent. I asked her what did you say she replied “Get me the F out of here (Well no shit!) She loved the thrill. Look at Jose & what a great attorney he is and how good he is making me look. Jose had hero status to Casey. Father of Caylee mentioned? She said this is my little Italian (about Caylee). I don’t think she knows who her dad is. She just said it wasn’t Jesus Ortiz. Did she talk about family relationships. She only said “Too bad that this had to happen because I was just getting close to my Father again.” (WOW!) Mad about her mom not sticking up for herLee always asking her questions..how did she react to that? She just acted like nothing, that was her brother he was protective of her. she would talk abotu nothing. Were you there when I asked the Anthony’s about taking a polygraph? That was you? Yes that was me. Did they say anything about that? Cindy daid they had agreed and that Casey would take one for Jose anytime. DCF guy came in and questioned her.
http://youtu.be/BJ7cZ9dacsw Pt 6
I mean it was a thourough questioning. Everyone was going to take a test but Lee. Maybe because Lee was rude to me I always thought well Lee must know something or maybe she told him. I was surprised that Lee had agreed to. But eventually they decided not to take the tests. The last I knew they were all goingto take them. Casey would be on the computer at Jose’s office looking for clues. Casey changed her story to the Blanchard park story. I was in the car with her & Rob. 1st time Casey mentioned ZFG to me was when LP questioned her but not again until the change in story. No excuse unless it was in the script she had. Did she think someone had set her up? Yes, I thinkl she thought maybe Jess. Because she mentioned that he had a key to her car (Or knew about her spare hid-a-key) She would go through the discovery and talk about cops were lying. That they were just pissed at her. Tracey told her “hey you started it with the Universal deal” How did she respond? Just shook her head. Did she talk about evidence that would cause a mistrial? Yes or change of venue. Not tso much that evidence was wrong…just…uh mistrial. Is Casey aware? Yes..she is. Jokes about ZFG giving Csasey a law degree. She wasn’t worried about the trunk hair sample. They said it couldn’t be determined if it was Caylee’s or Casey’s She replied “Well, I’m alive” (This is a PERFECT arguement because how could it possibly be hers if she is still alive? Then it couldn’t be decomp banding if Casey’s) Would she protect her friends? No only herself. DId she mention Dakota to you? Yes, She didn;t know about Dakota until she got out of jail. She saw a video of Dakota about her vigil for Caylee. She sent her a little thank you message. Casey was pissed when it came out on the news. She thought it was something private and it got out. She wrote Dakota a note & sent her a bracelet to thank her, show her appreciation for being so young and going out looking for Caylee. She say anything about Dakota having medical issues? Dakota supposedly had a breakdown after..well she’s had behavior issues, been in a behavioral home anyway. Was she concerned about Dakota at all? Not really..not after channel 2 I think it was…Cindy had told them do niot air that…
Rob dick
Leonard’s Team Talks-Rob Dick Pt.
Nothing said about Caylee. Made LP a plate of food. Cindy made us brownies. Nothing said aboutCaylee or finding her. Casey wanted to talk to LP late that night. We both went in it was Cindy LP me and Casey kind of stayed out of it. I didn’t like the way he came at her but LP is LP so “tells what he said” You could tell she’s getting pissed. He starts laying it out. I’m going to take you out of this house, take you away from your mother because she can’t kow!” Casey says”I don;t even want to talk to ya” “You’ve already made up your mind! I don;t want to talk to you now! Get out!” SHe had nothign to say and I said OK, He goes I dont want to hear about this ZFG crap, he was just laying out all the BS that he didn’t want to hear and she had nothing to say. SO he left. SHe talk to you about who she would wantto talk to? Only that she wanted to talk to someone without preconcieved notions. She wants to tell her story and you need ot believe that. And we need to look into her story because she’s telling the truth. Tracey help smooth thing over with Casey telling her Rob’s not like that, he’s not like LP. You can talk to him. I’m thinking OK you put her somewhere to get her away from your mom and you can’t tell us because then she’ll know where she is. I asked her what can you tell me? That’s when she changed to the BP story. Brought up ZFG and Samantha. Says they told her the script. (Is ZFG & Sam really George & Cindy?) The sunglasses game. We would joke about it. I would tell her anything she toldme was private and I’m here for you. Tape ends
http://youtu.be/b9PlpSrO0EQ Pt 2
LE: Talk about the sunglasses game
Family nneds draws me away but I will return and finish the Rob Dick audios. See you then.
I just watched an interesting Dateline on ID about a girl named Stacey Lannert who was sexually abused by her father from the age of 8 until the time she was 18. He also beat her younger sister and I believe started molesting her as well. Her story is heartbreaking. On her 18th birthday he raped her and she shot him dead. She admitted to it and was sent to prison for life. The prosecutor, in typical fashion said “there was no evidence of sexual abuse.” They made a big deal over her lack of emotion as she recalled the incident, saying this proved she was an evil, cold blooded killer. In the interview she said that at that point in her life she had no more emotion…she couldn’t cry if she tried. Anyone who has been through the trama of being repeatedly raped by their own father would relate. When asked if she wished she had not killed him she said yes because of the many lives it affected…but she didn’t regret feeling safe. Saying you feel safer in prison than you do at home is saying a lot! I think Casey was saying that in her jailhouse videos. This woman also said that there was no one to stop him…no one protected them. No one would believe it. Mom said she had no clue it was going on…which is hard to believe. Staacey was in jail for 18 years where she was a model prisoner, training dogs for the disabled. She had a life sentence without the possibility of parole. However, after hearing he r story the Governor released her. Ifound many similarities between her behavior and Casey’s. She also stole from her dad…he was mad about it but she could get away with it because she knew his sick secret. She wrote a book, Redemption, and I plan on reading it.
I am fully convinced George is a pedofile. No I don’t have “evidence ” but if you put all the pieces together, it adds up. Casey would not have harmed caylee, George and his behaviors hurt everyone around him. Put all the pieces together and the picture is clear.
HGM – Thank you so much for writing out the video content! I have no sound on my computer anymore and was so frustrated that I could not hear them (although it was cool to look at GA’s body/face language without sound, LOL). Just wanted you to know how much it helped me. Noni
Jill, I totally feel the same way about George! As far as the “flat affect” I saw it all the time from my son who was abused also. He also told lies constantly! To this day as an adult he has to stop himself from automatically lying. He says when he was young he felt so bad about himself that he thought he had to lie to make anyone like him. Isn’t that the saddest thing you ever heard? To think so little of yourself because of what an abuser did to you that you have to create a new “me” to survive in this world? My heart breaks and rebreaks over and over and over again for what he went thru. For what all abused persons went thru! God Bless you all.
Noni, that is so very,very sad. So sorry for your son. Words are not enough.
That so explains Casey’s lies prior to caylee’s death. She wanted her life to be better than it was, so she made up her own life…one where she was normal and successful. I hope she can go on to do good things with her life. She is smart as the psych depos point out. She had good grades. I think even the not graduating because she was a half credit short is indicative of a deeper problem. Self sabotage or a cry for help.
I am so very impressed with the research and thoughts of the Missionites….amazing ….JB — you created an amazing forum! Thank you …and all!!!
Jill what a tragedy!!!!
And Noni so sorry to hear about your son.
Looks like the molested are in a real predicament. You kill them, you
spend life in prison.
THat’s just insane.
I did hear Casey say she felt safer in jail.
Ohhhhhhh YES that says a lot.
IF there’s ONE damn thing I am so tired of is the molester being felt so sorry for
and NO MERCY for the molested.
THe people that don’t believe them should be so ashamed.
IF there’s one thing I wish would come out of this ( AT Casey’s and Caylee’s ) expense
is that people wise up. WE see the little girls molested and killed and are furious, we should be just as furious that they were molested PERIOD!! When they grow up they sure have no mercy on them.
I think we worry about so many other things and don’t just stop and think we have to listen to them NOW. It isn’t going to stop because just look at this!!
Poor George from at least 75% of the people. What sick people we have and unfortunately
the molesters will just keep on.
I’m very upset at the people’s ignorance. Do people really care about others? DO THEY?
I wonder the same thing Loly…do people really care? I am frustrated by this whole situation and I think that is why I am so interested in this case. For me, being a person that was abused and not believed (at first…they believe now but no one except me confronted my abuser) it is so clear that Casey is a victim of abuse. This George worship by others is sickening …can they not see through this creep? Watch any of his interviews, either LE or media, and you can see deception. The guy is FN strange…he misses the sweet smell of caylee’s sweat?? If people don’t think that’s weird behavior, then I guess there is no help for them. I am really hoping George is exposed and pays for the many lives he’s ruined.
BTW… I recommend that book by Stacey lannert. What a tragic life, but she is making something good from the bad. Helps to understand what Casey went through too. I got it on my kindle and cant put it down.
sonja
January 27, 2012 at 10:40 pm
It’s like people don’t realize that low-level light conditions will alter the size of the pupil. Gesh! Ignrance makes me crazy.
Jill
January 28, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Thanks for the book recommendation. I’m planning on going to the used book store and I’ll add it to my list.
nonifirst
January 28, 2012 at 3:18 pm
NP Noni! I like doing it. I was worried I was blog hoggin LOL
nonifirst
January 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm
It is so hard. One starts to feel like an alien from outer space because you feel so different from everyone else. The perspective in life is drastically altered and there’s no way to “putthe genie back in the bottle” once innocence has been stolen.
Jill, What’s weird is that both Dr’s said she graduated. Weird, huh? Did Cindy just make that up? Did she know Casey graduated at a later date and just didn’t say so? ODD!
Jill,
Thanks,
I will get the book.
People get rightfully angry and want to kill the babies/children/any citizen having that pureness taken away from them and fine them dead, BUT if they live through years of it, not telling anyone AND finally break, then they want to call them a liar. I know I’ve told this story, but my cousin was molested by our uncle. Even though I was the closest to her, she never mentioned it until she was 50. She laughed a lot, and lied a lot AND at this time when she told me at the age of 50, she died from cirrosis of the live from drinking a lot. My uncle had left many years ago and told my grandmother not to try and find him. My grandmother as a mother of course wanted so bad to see him. She died never knowing where he was. SOME in the family found him about a year ago and though oh, how wondeful. I thought it sucked and I told them I didn’t care if they ever found him. He lived twice her life without anyone confronting him. I live in Houston, he was in Oregon. IF I had seen him I would have asked him how many others he molested. It makes me sick to think about my cousin. She would do anything for anyone that she could. SAme way with animals. If someone didn’t have something to eat, she would make sure that she found something for them, like cook for her little community. There were some baby kittens born under one of her friends house, the friend called for her to help. She went under the house to get the kittens and was bit by a rattlesnake and was in the hospital for days, but was not worried about herself, she was crying over the kittens. On a 4 lane highway, she got got out, STOPPED the cars to try and save a dog a man just ran over and kept on going. I will alwaysd think of her and love the heart that she had, but mine breaks thinking of what she went through. I told her to tell her, Dad about the snake of an uncle, she did, her Dad called me and thanked me. THat’s all I could do, not knowing where my uncle lived, but I wanted the family to know WHY she was the way she was. I loved her then and love her now and miss her. I wish that I could have done something else, but I’m glad I was there for her, I learned a lot from her.
Jill,
And the answer to your question is basically we have so much of that, it isn’t a priorty, I guess. I can’t imagine how you felt with at first they didn’t believe you. My husband and I were just discussing this. How horrible that would be.
PLUS, you were the only one to confront him. You must have felt like the world was against you. You always like for someone to have the balls and stand up to them, you want help.
I guess they figure well it wasn’t them! Oh, Well!
Sickening isn’t it?
Yes both of the doctors said she graduated and they had the paperworks to prove it from my understanding. I know they had a lot of her school paperwork and awards she received from school. She did not graduate with her class but I do believe she graduated later. Love how the media never mentioned this once and as far as I have heard they are still saying she did not gruadate.
Loly ..I sm so touched by the life of your cousin. She could have, rightfully, been a bitter person, not caring about others but she chose to to the opposite. What a wonderful testimony of a beautiful, albeit broken life. Hgm said that those who live through abuse feel like aliens because they feel so different. True!! It is hard to trust that anyone truly has your best interest at heart and therfore reality is messed up. So for your cousin to be the way she was is truly amazing. Thank God she was able to disclose and hopefully heal some. You were instrumental in that and I am sure she was thankful for that…for you!!
Loly…truth be known, I am in my 40s and still struggle with feeling like the world is against me. I have a wonderful cousin too and I told her not too long ago that that experience forever changes who you are…who you could have, should have been. It takes a lifetime to work through. Life is good…but I still struggle with ramifications.
Firefly…I did notice both drs said she graduated and yes media never corrected that little fact to their sheep followers. Yes they both said there was documentation. I have to laugh when I see the haters say she is stupid…according to her records shes a lot smarter than most of them. All you need to do is read their posts to see their ignorance.
Jill
January 28, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I just watched an interesting Dateline on ID about a girl named Stacey Lannert who was sexually abused by her father from the age of 8 until the time she was 18.
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Jill, I remember hearing about this case, so sad! My thoughts about George is if he had been abusing Casey for a significant time, he may have thought he was the father of Caylee and
did the unthinkable, the rest is history……..Just sayin…..IMOO
My exact thought gcg!! I think he thought he was Caylee’s father…if it was an accidental drowning THAT’S why he would cover it up. People say all the time “George would call 911 if she drown” But, not true if he was afraid his sick dirty deeds would be exposed. Don’t know one pedofile that wants his secrets exposed, do you. I am appalled that LE didn’t look into him. Like I said…I hope someday his dirty deeds are laid lout for everyone to see and Casey and Caylee get vengeance and justice.
George Anthony Bursts Into News Conference
Sept 10 2008. WIth Mark NeJame. Claims he needs to know what happened.
http://youtu.be/b9PlpSrO0EQ Pt 2 (Sept 18 208)
LE: Talk about the sunglasses game. ZFG has 2 kids (So does Cindy & George). “The last person I saw my daughter with was Zenaida”. Said straight into his eyes, like a robot said it. We talked about Jeffrey Hopkins, he had a son, Zack, 3 yrs old. She wouldn’t allow for any more then that. I said Well, there’s a Jeffrey Hopkins on your cell phone She said “No, no that’s not him. Don’t call that. The guy you need to find is Jeffrey Michael Hopkins” That was another thing weird, that everyone except Juliette Lewis, when she would give us names everyone else had 3 names. (Dr W talked about the symbolizm behind Casey’s fascination with the number 3). Every day I tried to push a little bit more. I’d tell her “You know, I’m not getting anywhere. One of the first things she brought up that first day was the statements made by Kio Marie. She & Jose were talking about Kio and the discovery and Casey said “You need to find some dirt on her”. I said “Well what do you mean?” She said “Well, she said we were best friends & I don’t even like her. Said we’ve been friends forever, I don’t even like her. I haven’t talked to her in forever.” She wanted me to find something on Kio Marie to almost discredit her or something because she said her statement was all BS. mark Hawkins was contacted because LP found his # on the phone bill. (Working for LE?) This Mark guy. I would then relay through Tracey to her “Hey!Who’s Mark?” I would text her. She would say (to Casey) “Hey, you know Mark?” She’d be like “yeah,that’s my friend from California” Ok well it says his name is Mark Stone, is that right? Because we had al ittle discrepancy on the Mark Stone. We had a phone # and talked to him & he says he’s Mark Stone but the second time he says he’s Mark Hopkins. No, On the answering machine it says he’s Mark Stone but told LP he’s Mark Hopkins. Casey said she didn’t know a Mark Stone, she knows a Mark Hopkins. It seems like that is kind of weird but you know..
http://youtu.be/ffCFu4DiUVU Pt 3
She didn’t want us to mess with Mark. She said He has nothingto do with this. Don’t bug him. Her and Lee. Lee said it alot. Lee did not want us going back to Jeffrey Hopkins and I said Hey Lee, there’s a Jeffrey Hopkins on her phone bill and he said “Do not call him! He’s a friend of the family, he has nothingto do with this. I don’t want our friends being harrassed bythis. They have nothing to do with this. That is NOT the guy she’s talking about. LE: We know that. Well, he’s a family friend, not the one from Universal. LE: You would think that family members would want anyone who might have information to be contacted. I had real concerns about Lee all the way through. There was little things..then towards the last day I didn’t even want to talk to him. I caught him in what I feel was a major lie and I didn’t want to talk to him anymore. What I felt we were there forwas supposedly forthe same reason you want us here, to help find her and if you’re gonna interfere with the investigation…that we’re semi doing…I don’t I don’t want to talk to you. I mean why? Why are you interfereing like this? I mean that..that really bothered me. I want to tell you aboutthat first night, the meeting with the family and then later with the lie. LE: Ok Let me ask you specifically…you were there the day we wentto Jose Baez’ office and met with Cindy, Casey was there and then Casey eventually left.Yeah. LE: Did she say anything on that ride back? (Changes the subject to the lying about what she had eaten)
Talks about how he feels that Jose was coaching her on acting sad, mentioning Caylee etc.
A Phone rings and the tape ends.
The Bounty Hunter talks about Casey Anthony going back to jail on Aug.28,she was arrested at home on Aug.30,2008.
He says “We think it was an accident possibly because t”hat would explain the dog hits in the back yard. He recommends she be taken back into custody (for her safety’s sake as they, her so called protectors, were leaving). DO you think she killed Caylee? LP: Nods, yeah, accidentally. I think there was an accident. WHat type of accident? LP: I don’t know, I don’t know. WHat do they say when you try to talk to them about it? LP: I don’t! I don’t talk to them at all!” 2:34 LP: I’ve NEVER TALKED TO HER! After she got out & she got out of the van that was it. I never talked to her.” Not even a thank you? LP: “Well, she basically said her thank you in the van that day” Talks about bonds and how they work. Admits some peolewill claims he is looking for fame. You can’t stop that. As far as he’s concerned she is going back to jail. Safer there. He doesn’t want George to hurt someone because of protestors. Most of the protestors are nuts. Probably out of their minds but you can’t pass up that somebody might do something stupid. She kept saying if she got out she’d help locate her daughter, that never happened. Talks about the air samples. We “know” there was a decompsing body in that trunk. If more charges were filed she would automatically be taken back into custody. The quicker the better. LE would immediately take her back into custody if we called them. I have a law degree. I am Pres of a Law school. I don’t feel foolish. I was wrong. Ever been wrong? How many times have you been divorced? She’s got an insanity defense. Is shecrazy? LP: I don’t know if she’s actually crazy but she’s definately got a mental problem. Footage of air sample info release.
Caylee’s Grandparents try to stop the Bounty Hunter’s Memorial for her. 11/10/08
http://youtu.be/S_hMTk4RI2Q (Filmed by a spectator from a little distance)
People started shouting at & taunting G & C and LP yelled at them & told them to stop it! They listened. He had a private conversation with G & C. Cindy’s on the phone with someone.
Cindy tells reporter “I don’t have a problem with you being out here. I have a problem with him having a memorial for Caylee Marie Anthony. Do you think it’s all aboutthe publicity for him? Cindy:”Well, What do you think?” Reporter asks how she’s holding up with TES back & searhcing for Caylee (body) again. Kathy B asks Cindy “Why are you so upset about the memorial service? Cindy replies “Kathy, If I have to answer that question then you’re a stupid woman, which I alreasy know that anyway. (Oooo Burn!) KB: You’re insults are fun and everything but..” Cindy: They’re not fun Kathy! I’veseen you stick the camera in people’s faces before and it’s the stupidest thing to do to a person and if you’re asking a stupid question then you’re a stupid person. Kathy: Is LP gonna change his mind about it? Cindy: LP will do what ever LP wants to do.” George takes a sign and says it’s theirs.
Uploaded by AssociatedPress on Dec 5, 2008
Prosecutors will not pursue the death penalty in the case of Casey Anthony, the central Florida woman charged with killing her 3-year-old daughter, Caylee. The development comes as new jailhouse videos were released. (Dec. 5)
They were going into trial sans remains with a possible doubt to her even being dead and the State had dropped the DP. It was going to be a cake walk. Then six days later, like a miracle the remains are found proving death & putting the DP raight back on the table in April 2009. Considering LP’s statements aboutthe remains on Dec 9 2008 (4 days after DP dropped) there is no way it can be a coincidence.
aWWW lOLYPOP (((Hugs)))
GCG, I’m wondering if maybe Casey just told him he was, maybe she wasn’t sure and it was to her benefit for him to think he was, or so she thought.
Jill I agree for two-fold reasons. Hiding potential paternity thus Casey saying she was protecting the whole family & she “Hasn’t told them anything”. (Personally I think she wanted LE to question this part of the conv but they never did) 2nd part is if he was molesting Caylee he would want to hide the evidence.
HollysGmom thanks so much for putting the transcripts on here.
This family has some deep dark secrets and Casey has been trying to let them out in her own way for three years now! This is not a normal family! Most familys look out for one another, this family is fend for yourself. They are very selfish, they are only worried about themselves. If people would learn to read between the lines they might just realize what she is doing! I completely understand her comment “in a backwards way”
Uploaded by 3237775035 on Dec 6, 2008 (State dropped DP the day before)
CASEY ANTHONY SAID LEE AND George TRIED TO HAVE SEX WITH HER
How can anybody claims she sat on this info for 3 years? (Koo-Koo Koo-Koo)
AUGUST 8, 2008 — Casey refused to see her brother, Lee, for a scheduled meeting
AUGUST 10, 2008 — Casey cancelled a scheduled meeting with her parents, the second time in three days she has refused to meet with her family.
AUGUST 15, 2008 — Two private investigators working for Jose Baez, identified as Edward Phlegar and Dominic Casey, met with Casey in jail.
AUGUST 16, 2008 — California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla announced he and his nephew, bail bondsman Tony Padilla, would fly to Orlando and post Casey’s $500,000 bond. Padilla said they wanted to “find the baby.”
AUGUST 17, 2008 — Leonard Padilla arrived in Orlando.
AUGUST 20, 2008 — Leonard and Tony Padilla posted bond necessary for Casey’s release.
August 21, 2008 – Casey released from prison
Casey walked out of jail 10:30 a.m. after being fitted with an electronic monitoring device
(What he refers to as “That first night”}
August 29, 2008 – Casey re-arrested
New economic crime charges not related to Caylee’s disappearance included uttering a fraudulent instrument, petty theft, and fraudulent use of personal information. Deputies said they had surveillance video of Casey using forged checks.
Deputies also served Casey, George, Cindy and Lee Anthony with criminal witness subpoenas to appear in court sometime in November.
AUGUST 30, 2008 — Texas EquuSearch, a mounted search and recovery group, arrived in Central Florida to help search for Caylee.
New bond for Casey set at $3,000 for charges not related to Caylee’s disappearance. The original posted bond had been revoked, so Casey would have remained in jail even if the new bond was posted.
AUGUST 31, 2008 — Sheriff’s Office confirmed hair found in the trunk of Casey’s car belonged to Caylee.
SEPTEMBER 2, 2008 — Casey refused an offer of limited immunity in exchange for information leading to Caylee
SEPTEMBER 3, 2008 — Anonymous source posted Casey’s $500,000 bond through two Florida bonding companies.
September 5, 2008 – Casey leaves jail again
Released on bond for second time, required to wear an ankle-monitoring device. Neighbors and protesters clash outside the Anthony home once Casey is released.
SEPTEMBER 6, 2008 — Deputies seized a handgun from the trunk of George Anthony’s car. Having a gun on the property was a violation of Casey’s bail, but since she appeared to be unaware of the gun, she was not taken back into custody.
SEPTEMBER 7, 2008 — EquuSearch temporarily called off the search for Caylee, citing environmental conditions and concerns following Tropical Storm Fay.
SEPTEMBER 10, 2008 — Casey Anthony charged with Grand Theft
September 15, 2008 – Casey turns herself in
Re-arrested on new economic charges unrelated to Caylee’s disappearance.
SEPTEMBER 16, 2008 — Casey was taken before a judge and then released on $1,250 bond, again fitted with an ankle-monitoring device.
October 14, 2008 – Casey indicted for murder
Grand jury also indicted Casey for aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of providing false information. Because it is a capital crime, Casey now faces the death penalty.
OCTOBER 28, 2008 — Murder trial scheduled for January 5, 2009. Pretrial date set for December 11.
NOVEMBER 5, 2008 — Judge agreed to continue Casey’s check fraud hearing to December 11.
NOVEMBER 8, 2008 — Texas EquuSearch led group of volunteers in a search of a 25-acre area around Orlando International Airport for Caylee, but found nothing.
NOVEMBER 19, 2008 — Leonard Padilla said one of his associates who had been inside the Anthony home told him Casey criticized the people looking for her daughter, saying they hadn’t even found the clothes she was wearing.
NOVEMBER 20, 2008 — Mark NeJame resigned as George and Cindy Anthony’s attorney.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2008/november/71517
DECEMBER 5, 2008 — The state initially said it will not seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony.
DECEMBER 10, 2008 — Jose Baez requested Caylee sightings video through subpoena duces tecum.
December 11, 2008 – Human remains found in woods
Skeletal remains of what appeared to be a small child were found one-quarter mile from the Anthony home. Meanwhile, Judge Stan Strickland postponed Casey’s murder trial. New status hearing set for January 15.
So according to LP’s own words he only spoke to Casey that 1st night (chit-chat typetalk) and then again then next morning apparently after George got physical with her LP thought it was a good idea to try to verbally rough house her. Then after that short confrontation he never spoke to her again. Only his associates did. He can’t testify to anything that he didn;tdirectly hear or see as far as Casey directly is concerned.
Now onto Tim Miller BBL
Not to change the subject I just read an article about the little girl missing in Maine. The police found blood in the basement of thr home she lived in. They are waiting on conformation on who’s blood it is. So sad.
Firefly,
I agree with you. When Casey told LE that she just received a call from ZG, and on the phone CAylee described the book(she was reading at the nursing home) etc, that surely sounded as if
Casey was giving hints without spilling the beans….Also that took me back when Cindy’s mother mentioned a phone call from a child on the other end, like someone recorded it…..
WEll, the same thing could’ve happened with Casey…..
YW Firefly! I admit some of the earlier posted videos I didn’t fully transcribe but if it’s needed I can go bakc and catch the highlights but I think mostly I got it covered.
I agree re Shirley Plesea calls that sounded like a child’s voice, messages left on her answering machine thta didn’t make sense to her. If someone recorded part of that video clip of Caylee they could play it back over the phone to throw others off including Casey. Could George have told Casey that Caylee had survived all along & staying with someone but that he couldn’t bring her home until he found a way to do so that LE wouldn’tfind out or something?
Holly, my gut is telling me that someone was using Caylee as leverage. “Afterthefact”
IF CAylee’s demise took place under the Anthony roof, which I believe it was and one of the people
responsible was a grandparent (?) the 30 days was used by them to stall, plain and simple. And stall Casey as well,,,,,,Another gut feeling has always been that the cover up began long before
CAsey found out her own daughter was dead…..IMOO
I agree George would not have called 911. Sexual predators can be living a very accepted life in a community and the worst thing they feel could happen to them is to be known as a molester.
in acceptance of the drowning and George’s attempt to intimidate Casey, it means to me that the whole family was aware of what had happened to Caylee and the whole behavior pattern of Cindy and George would have been a delay.
GasCanGeorge… @ January 28, 2012 at 9:10 pm you replied to Jill
My thoughts about George is if he had been abusing Casey for a significant time, he may have thought he was the father of Caylee and
did the unthinkable, the rest is history……..Just sayin…..IMOO
I have Always felt that George Believed that he may have fathered Caylee…and Lee may have been nervous too. When Jesse Grund IMMEDIATELY had a paternity test done and was ruled OUT , The stakes got a little higher. Caylee’s tragic drowning, however it happened , was time to protect the FAMILY. The DNA proved that George was not the father but it may have haunted his dreams.
only My Opinion
AUGUST 30, 2008 — Texas EquuSearch, a mounted search and recovery group, arrived in Central Florida to help search for Caylee
SEPTEMBER 7, 2008 — EquuSearch temporarily called off the search for Caylee, citing environmental conditions and concerns following Tropical Storm Fay.
NOVEMBER 8, 2008 — Texas EquuSearch led group of volunteers in a search of a 25-acre area around Orlando International Airport for Caylee, but found nothing. \\
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8/28/08: More People Who Searched The Crime Scene Area
Couple from Port St Lucie searched the area come to be known as Casey’s “hide-out”. Video of the two of them walking in area that The Body Hunters were in. Female: Janette Holderson
Texas Equusearch searches for Caylee Anthony 8/30/08 in Orlando Florida.
Caylee Anthony – Search briefing part 1
Uploaded by crimewriter74 on 9/06/2008
A search briefing by team miller and members of Texas EquuSearch, at the Caylee Anthony search command post. Filmed by Investigation Discovery’s David Lohr. For more information on Casey and Caylee, visit: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/
Tim Miller: Speaks out on Steph Watts Radio Show – 9/19/10
September 19, 2010 airing
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this
Searching for Caylee Anthony
Uploaded by jrossvideo on 10/07/2008
Contains some interesting shots of wooded areas and a few I think are the right area for remains find (WEdge of woods pics) Interesting considering the date it was uploaded. Contains pics of dry wooded areas as well.
Caylee Anthony Search – Richard Grund
Uploaded by crimewriter74 on 11/09/2008
Richard Grund, the father of Casey Anthony’s former fiancée, Jessie Grund, speaking during a Nov. 9, 2008 Texas EquuSearch briefing. (The video is a little shakey, as I only had one free hand at the time.) Filmed by Investigation Discovery’s David Lohr. For more updates, visit: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_r
caylee tribute 0002
Uploaded by equusearch on Dec 30, 2008
Texas EquuSearch tribute to Caylee Marie Anthony
Attorney for TES, Mark NeJame speaks to reporters after Casey Anthony hearing 1/30/2009
For more updates and discussions join CrimeSearchersOnline.com
The split second that Tim Miller met with OCSO and formed the opinion that Caylee was deceased and shared it with the Anthony family; Cindy’s wrath began. Mr. Miller and his organization had nothing to do with exposing the “improprieties” within the original Trust. Blink and 5 other contributing researchers did. One of which was a former banking executive within that very Sun Trust Bank. Mark Nejame, former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, released the documents he was given by the Trustee, Paul Kelley, in full. Nejame is not a Trust attorney and simply presented what he was given; he did not represent the Anthonys in any way regarding transactions of the Trust, or Sun Trusts decision to close the account without prior notification.
The first four days of the transactions of that trust were missing. No opening balance, no explanation as to why the account was set up to overide “holds” and treat all transactions as cash to be available for wire transfer. Nada. To date, they have not been released publicly. It would be truly wonderful if instead of granting the Anthony’s puff piece venues, an actual interviewer might ask them why.
I will be exploring exactly how the initial trust is truly the epicenter of what cultivated the major players in this case from day one, and who they are, in a future Scamthony Series installment.
Uploaded by klaasend on Jun 17, 2009
Cindy Anthony leaves a message for Tim Miller
Talks about giving him pain meds for his back (OMG!)
Cindy Anthony leaves a message for Tim Miller.
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Cindy: “Don’t go against my family Tim. Don’t do it. I’m telling you. You will Never win.”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-exclusive-cindy-anthonys-scathing-message-to-tim-miller/
Shaming of the Shames blogspot
Thursday, September 4, 2008
Tim Miller vs. The Anthony Family
Right now Tim Miller is in Orlando Florida assisting in the Caylee Anthony case. He arrived at the request of Cindy Anthony, who heard about Tim and called him and what I assumed was an excellent first step in her redeeming herself and actually making moves to seriously find Caylee.
I was wrong.
I recall the day Tim arrived, there was a webcam stationed outside of the police department and it showed Cindy and Tim talking in the parking lot, he was holding her shoulder and smiling and seeming so kind and gentle and then he hugged her and they departed. I felt so good about it and was happy he was there to show his support.
By the second day we were hearing about a low volunteer turn out and how Tim was meeting with Cindy and the family at home to go over details. Casey again repeated her story about leaving Caylee with a babysitter who police have been unable to confirm even exists. Tim seemed distraught, he tried to make sense of where to look.
By the third day Tim was saying he did not believe Caylee was alive and was asking volunteers to gather to search the woods. Cindy Anthony went on national television and claimed he was wasting his time and that volunteers where not turning out because they believe Caylee is alive.
Tim again insisted he was following all leads, but wanted to search the woods. Cindy Anthony was no longer cooperating with Tim and Equusearch, she was not participating in searches nor pleading for the volunteers that were desperately needed as most families do when their loved one is missing, instead she decided to make horrid accusations about Tim only wanting to be in the media spotlight, about Tim only wanting to profit off of her missing granddaughter.
It was exposed that Cindy alerted Tim and his group to a sighting that was reported to her about Caylee being seen in Texas and she wanted Tim and his team to go back home to Texas to search for a LIVE Caylee.
Tim refused to leave. The tip was not credible, but still he sent members of the group to seek it out.
She then released a statement accusing him of wanting funding and exposure for his organization, you know, the NON-FOR PROFIT Equusearch who has helped hundreds of families in need and who are forced to turn families down because of the high rate of missing cases.
http://shamaninga.blogspot.com/2008/09/tim-miller-vs-anthony-family.html
Tim Miller Reacts to Discovery Near Anthony Family Home
December 11, 2008
According to a spokesperson for Texas EquuSearch, the area where the remains were found could not be searched during the first search effort because the area was under water. During the second search effort the area was fenced off.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/tim-miller-reac.html
Caylee Anthony Case: ‘I Was There When The Search For Caylee Began’
7/7/11 DaVID Lohr
In September 2008, I spoke with Tim Miller, founder and director of Texas EquuSearch. Miller and I had worked together in the past. I had covered cases he worked on and had volunteered in missing person searches. I was with Miller when I saw my first body — that of a missing person who had been dead for several days. That first experience was one I never forgot. Miller told me that he and his team had just arrived in Orlando and were having a difficult time getting volunteers.
On September 3, 2008, roughly fifty thousand people visited Walt Disney World, while all of twelve showed at the EquuSearch command center to search for Caylee. I ran an article pointing that out; the next day hundreds of volunteers showed up and the Discovery Channel flew me to Florida.
Hurricane Ike was on the horizon when I arrived in Orlando. There was a dark cloud on the horizon that seemed to portend things even more ominous than the hurricane itself.
I was the only reporter Miller gave behind-the-scenes access to and allowed in the command center. He showed me the maps where searches were being conducted and where they were preparing to go next. They had the search area broken down into a 30-mile grid. They were literally looking for a needle in a haystack.
I went on more searches than I can remember. The searches ran from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. My day, however, would begin again when I went back to the hotel because then I had to cover the case. I typically made it to bed by 3 or 4 a.m. After a day or two of that I felt like a zombie. And so it went for days on end.
As the searches heated up so did the presence of protesters outside the Anthony family home. They would chant “baby killer, baby killer,” over and over again. It was not uncommon for fights to break out and it was while covering the protest that I had my first run-in with Casey Anthony’s father, George Anthony. I was standing on the edge of his yard when he ran up and told me to get my foot “the f–k off his land.” I figured that was probably a bad time to request an interview, so I backed off.
During the first week of November 2008, I returned to Orlando again and met with Miller as he and his group prepared to search for Anthony. I was again given behind-the-scenes access. Search two was much bigger than the first and between 2,000 and 4,000 people came from all over the U.S. and abroad to volunteer.
A little-known fact is that, during search two, Cindy Anthony came to the Holiday Inn hotel at which Texas EquuSearch and I were staying near the Orlando International Airport. Anthony sat down in a room with us and cried as Miller discussed losing his own daughter, Laura Miller. She was abducted and murdered in 1984. Her killer has never been identified. Tim Miller played a song that had been written about Laura and Cindy sat in tears as they listened to the lyrics.
After the meeting, Cindy Anthony approached me. I was somewhat surprised that she knew who I was and, in that moment, Cindy Anthony reached out and embraced me. Afterwards, we spoke and I was left with the impression that she was trying to hang onto any shred of hope that she could find.
A day or two later, on November 9, 2008, the search for Caylee was suspended. I sat down with Miller just prior to his announcement. He told me he felt he had done all he could and did not believe Caylee would ever be found. “There is only one person who can bring this to an end and she’s not talking,” he said.
I was sitting in my office on December 11, 2008 when I received a phone call from Mandy Albritton, a close personal friend who was working as a spokesperson for Texas EquuSearch. She told me that a child’s skeletal remains had been found down the street from the Anthony family home. The news was a shock. Ten minutes later it was all over the television. They were not saying it was Caylee, but everyone knew it was. She was found. She was finally found.
It was not until later that day that I realized the location where Caylee’s remains were found was within a couple hundred feet of a location I had gone into with EquuSearch during search one. I remember the area was under water. She was there and we never even knew it. That is something that still bothers me. I was later deposed regarding this and was placed on the witness list. Apparently Anthony’s attorney planned to somehow use the information but, as it turned out, I was never called to testify.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-lohr/caylee-anthony-case-i-was_b_892787.html#s300027&title=Caylee_Marie_Anthony
Caylee Anthony’s Grandmother Trashes Tim MillerPosted on September 4th, 2008
Thursday Night Tim Miller was a guest on CNN’s Nancy Grace Show. He made a statement saying he was furious with Cindy Anthony after what he said was a lack of cooperation.
Local6.com reports Tim Miller as saying, “I’m pissed off. I feel as though we have been used in this and we are not getting any cooperation. We have done everything Cindy Anthony has asked us to do.”
When Cindy Anthony heard this on Nancy Grace she released a statement Thursday:
“Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses – both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organizations at the expense of exploiting my granddaughter’s disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finder’s Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent 12 hours in my home with my family including Casey when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padilla’s footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the effort of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace.”
(Notice she says “Came to me” ie Cindy, not Casey)
Tim Miller tried his best Wednesday night on Nancy Grace to show no disrespect to the Anthony’s. Cindy Anthony phoned into the show and voiced her say on the subject of her not cooperating with Miller.
http://www.bloggernews.net/117609
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Excellent job HGM!! It’s an extraordinary timeline…so much going on.
Much appreciated!
JB
ps; this was caught in mod due to length and amt of links. I just wanted you to know..
Let’s now look at Joseph Jordan’s claims. He states on September 1st, 2008, that he and “five to six volunteers” “searched the area by the stockade fence along the south side of Suburban Street”. He states that two dogs were in their search group. One belonged to Danny Ibison and the other to a Panama City Sheriff’s Deputy. On September 2, 2008, the Orlando Sentinel wrote an article on the searches being conducted by TES and specifically mentioned Danny Ibison and his dog Tyler. In this article it states they were searching “a wooded area, less than a mile from the Anthony home”. It does not give more specifics on the location, but from the description of debris found at the location searched, it seems apparent it was NOT at the location where Caylee’s remains were ultimately found:
As the searchers moved down the path, they beat back undergrowth and probed the dirt with sticks. Ibison instructed Tyler to sniff a couple of suspicious items — an abandoned baby stroller and a torn blue tarp, but the dog didn’t smell any signs of decomposition.
The volunteers made their way into an open, muddy field, where they encountered another group that had some across something suspicious behind a rotting log — a trash can with scorch marks. It was deemed unrelated to the search.
But for the sake of argument we will allow that they were traveling down Suburban Drive, that Mr. Jordan was involved in this search, and therefore TES may have records that the defense’s motion will produce. Establishing that the water conditions are the same, we have no description of Danny Ibison, or any searcher with him, attempting to wade (along with their dog) into water. In fact, “an open, muddy field” doesn’t describe the location of Caylee’s remains at all. So, we are left with the closest approach to Caylee’s remains, assuming these searchers were on Suburban Drive, being from the roadside of Suburban. From the topo map and rainfall analysis we see that the closest point the searchers with dogs could have gotten to Caylee’s remain (barring entrance into the water) would have been right at 5 feet. This would have required the searchers to enter the heavy brush and walk down a muddy, slippery incline toward the edge of the water. But let’s assume they did get this close, because it was possible.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/12/03/looking-at-the-statements-of-joseph-jordan-and-laura-buchanan/
People who searched the remains site and didn’t find Caylee
Previously mentioned persons plus:
Carol Conaway – TES volunteer and her daughter, Jennifer Conaway traveled on horseback from Deltona to participate in search #1 on Suburban DR in August 2008. They searched in Zone #1 near Hidden Oaks Elem. and walked down toward Zone #2 but did not search that area. They described the standing water as black and murky in both areas. They also returned for search #2 on 11/7/2008 to search another location.
Brett Douglas Reilly – TES Team Leader during the September & November searches coordinated by TES. He and his team searched the area near the Hidden Oaks Elementary School and worked towards the location on Suburban closer to Hopespring DR. When TES left Orlando, Brett and a few others returned to the Suburban DR wooded area every 2 or 3 weeks to check to see if the water levels had receded in the swampy are closest to Hopespring DR. At no time were they about to get to this area because it was still flooded. He met Kristina Chester who told him those two areas on Suburban DR would be her best guess about where to search. When he asked her about knowing anything about ZFG, Kristina laughed and said she was Caylee’s baby-sitter
Richard Creque – TES Team Leader for search #1. On 9/5/08 & 9/6/08 to lead groups in searching on Suburban DR near the Hidden Oaks Elem. As they proceeded down the street toward the discovery site, the water down where the land sloped was too deep to go any further. Richard’s wife Laurie Creque joined him in the search on 9/5/08 (her birthday) because what she wanted to do for her B-Day was to search for Caylee.
Captain Clyde Cole – (aka: Greg) Gulf County Sheriffs Office employee who participated in the search for Caylee Anthony in September of 2008. He is a cadaver dog trainer and handler. Clyde brought two of his trained cadaver dogs to assist in the search efforts at the far eastern end of Suburban Drive. Clyde knows where the remains were eventually located and stated neither he nor his cadaver dogs ever searched that particular area. He also stated that the area the remains were located in would have been “most difficult if not impossible to search … because of the amount of water in the area.”
Kevin Rodriques – contacted by TES to assist in the search for Caylee. FL-3 Airboat SAR team searched the area of Lake Glory. On 9/27/08 a cadaver dog alerted on a child’s Minnie Mouse Dress (red w/white polka dots & black)
Laura Buchanan – Currently lives in Mendham, NJ. Traveled from KY to Orlando, FL to participate in the 1st TES lead search in September 2008. She was assigned as a TES Team Leader for J. Blanchard Park. She submitted a sworn statement that the remains of Caylee Anthony were not there on 9/3/08 when she searched the wooded area of Suburban DR. [This was not her assigned search area] Her TES form 214 for the Suburban location may be bogus. A copy of this form was submitted to Defense Team P.I. Mortimer Smith.
On September 3, 2008, the team in which I was assigned, [from TES], went to Suburban Street [sic] in Orlando and searched the area near where the remains of Caylee Anthony were found. We were in that area for approximately 3 to 4 hours. I personally searched near the privacy fence and worked my way towards and then beyond the spot where the body was found. I did not notice anything unusual. I did not notice a strange smell. I noticed no buzzards, nor unusual animal or insect activity. It is my opinion that the remains of Caylee Anthony were not there during the time of our search
•Thomas Hoffman, FL (Laura Buchanan’s TES team member on September 3)
•Tanya Clayton, Lexington, SC (Laura Buchanan’s TES team member on September 3)
•Kena Seegmiller, Orlando, FL (Laura Buchanan’s TES team member on September 3)
•Patricia Quiggle, Ocala, FL (Laura Buchanan’s TES team member on September 3)
•Anne W. Pham, Heathrow, FL (Laura Buchanan’s TES team member on September 3)
Drew Tate – Interviewed by WESH reporter on 12/11/08 shortly after OCSO announced the find of human remains in the wooded area on Suburban DR. He and others searched this area twice. One search with TES and other with a group. He described the area as overgrown with a lot of vines, therefore they couldn’t see anything.
Tony Rovinsky – Experienced Search & Rescue Military (Navy). Searched for Caylee in the Suburban DR area as a volunteer with TES in the 1st search – September 2008. An ATV got stuck in this area. He and approx. 6 – 8 other volunteers decided to continue to independently search the Suburban DR location after TES suspended the search effort on 9/7/08. His observation was the area where Caylee was later found was deep under water, therefore inaccessible during all of their searches
Keith Dustin Williams – Conducted an independent search for Caylee in the woods behind Hidden Oaks Elem. on 8/18/08. He lived in the Chickasaw Trail neighborhood up until 5 yrs. ago. Found a “Father’s Day” balloon and other items of interest.
Joy Roseann Wray – Altamonte Springs, FL resident who claimed she was a TES Team Leader and that she searched for Caylee one time with this group. Additionally, Joy claimed she conducted independent searches (including taking pics/videos). LE interviews with her did not result in obtaining any credible information.
Gale St. John – Psychic joined the search for Caylee. She and the members of her team rode from Hopespring DR to Suburban DR on 8/11/08. Gale had to stop the van to let Hilo (the dog) out because he became ill. Riding in a van with Gale doing the “blind run” were the following:
Travis J. Sanders – Psychic Medium and Gale’s apprentice.
Tamra St. John – Gale St. John’s daughter
Thomas Berning – Independent searcher from Kissimmee, FL. Found shallow grave w/stick and string on Suburban Dr.
Patrick King – Independent searcher from Kissimmee, FL. Found shallow grave w/stick and string on Suburban Dr
David Lohr, New York City, NY – writer – filmed TES searches
http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-whos-who-list/searched-for-caylee/
The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio – Wednesday, August 27, 2008, (Posted August 26, 2008) – Guests Include Tim Miller Of Texas Equusearch Discussing The Caylee Anthony Search, Caylee Anthony Searcher Joe Jordan Discusses New Evidence In The Caylee Anthony Case and NY Senatorial Candidate Den Delano.
If you missed it last night, check out Dana Pretzer’s exclusive interview HERE and at Scared Monkeys radio with Tim Miller. Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch has arrived in Florida, met with the Anthony family and will meet with law enforcement this morning.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/08/26/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-wednesday-august-27-2008-guests-include-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-discussing-the-caylee-anthony-search-caylee-anthony-searcher-joe-jordan-disc/
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/08/28/tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-to-help-find-caylee-anthony-exclusive-interview-with-dana-pretzer-on-scared-monkeys-radio/
Tim called in from the Anthony home. Says Jose is present, Cindy etc. Says there was a lot of behind the scenes things that went into getting him/TES there. Keeping an open mind unless there is evidence of death come up. Talks about Elizabeth Smart & hopes for finding a live Caylee. Talks about tomorrow being a big planning day. “I get choked up, let’s just keep hope up that Caylee’s alive.”
5.Terri on August 27th, 2008 2:39 pm
Breaking news on fox is that the air quality tests performed on the mother’s car came back indicating decomposition. (This is the very morning that TM was to meet with LE after meeting with the A’s the night before and recording the above audio. That leak of discovery information to be used as evidence totally changed the entire case.)
WHew! Good Night All! I’m exhausted! LOL! See you Guys & Gals tomorrow!
Hello, fellow Finders of Truth
Hi GasCanGeorge,
I smile everytime I see it.
I’m so glad you’re back to your old avatar, I just love it!
I agree..the 31 days was for a reason and “no” it wasn’t something that KC schemed, it was someone who knew how much time was needed for a body to skeletonize and that would be either GA or CA. In this case, I’ll go with GA because he’s the forensic savvy one in the family.
“31 Days” was the only consistent lie…everything else was off..like GA’s story about CA chasing Casey then losing her at the toll booth? CA says it didn’t happen.
KC’s ability to tell tall tales came directly from her father…He’s the master of deception.
Hi Firefly and JFC,
Nice to see you both again.
Firefly, I agree with you..just read between the lines, in a backwards sort of way, it’ll make much sense.
JFC, who knows, maybe Casey may have “impled it” a few times? Hmm..it would serve him right because that BIG FAT LIE George told on Dr Phil irks the heck out of me.
There’s no way Georgie was pleased to learn his unwed daughter was pregnant. lol He says he didn’t ask when, why or who..lol, maybe because he didn’t want to know the answer???
Just saying..
Thanks
Jill and Holly, to me she will always be VERY SPECIAL and I’m going to do something for her in her name so that she will be known as special! Btw, I ordered the book, thanks for the information. It looks like the book must have sold and been selling very well, that tells me my fears are true about molestation and it goes on WAY more than we know.
Hugs back to both of you!
Holly, you are amazing. THat is a lot of work and I’m going to read and catch up on all of it. I wish you could write a book, I know a lot of people would buy it. I’m sure you are exausted. That is a lot of work. Thanks so much! Rest good! : )
Really JB,
Can you imagine a mother or father not asking your pregnant daughter those questions? I can’t! To me, if I were Casey I would just assume, like anything she told them, they really didn’t care or was concerned.
They keep talking about the strange things Casey did. Do they just want us to overlook the REALLY absurd things that they did or did not do.
THat’s what they want just to keep the focus on Casey, no matter what happens to her.
Damn shame!
Talk about pathetic parents!
HGM, all your findings are helping me to form an opinion. I wonder if anyone else is thinking along the same lines?
I think that because Tim Miller pissed Cindy off, they then used Caylee’s remains to make him look bad by moving them to an area that had been searched repeatedly.
SAm,
“Someone” was in control of the remains and the investigation, staying two steps infront of LE .Cindy’s taping George’s deposition, George running to FBI befriending LE, wanting to be in the courtroom (and taking notes), reading the blogs…..George is a professional liar and i’m sure he was canned or forced to resign for lying?……..
Thanks, GCG. This all just makes me so freaking angry that Casey (and only Casey) is being held accountable. It seems so obvious once it’s looked at how HGM presented it!
No wonder most victims of sexual abuse stay hauntingly quiet.
HELLO EACH AND EVERYONE!!!!!!! I have been busy the past few days and babysitting my boys so I havent had the chance to catch up. Just got caught up on the last thread so wanted to say hello first on this. Spoke with Spidy for a few yesterday, poor soul. Please continue to keep her in your thoughts and prayers….
OH I have had a big ole birthday since here last lol so its taking me longer to catch up
lol x 14 !!!!
Thanks for all the love…. going to catch up now!!!! So many great thoughts and comments…
I just recd a text from Addie husb. Friday she said she may get to go home tomm (Sat) if her bloodwork came back ok. I tried textin and calling but no answ. So just a few ago I tried again. And this is the response: Cant answer the phone right now. Addie IS STILL IN SURGERY and doing ok. Will up date as we hear something.
I am sending a multitude of prayers out to you Addie and to you too Spidy. I know your having a really tough time. GOD Speed to you both! Love you, Mimi
Sam,
And I have to say it is and has been done in plain sight, what a bunch of stupid investigators, so sorry but, what poor excuses for cops,….I’d give credit where credit is due however none for this group of morons…..IMOO
Happy Birthday MIMI
Hi Mimi, Happy Birthday! : )
So sorry to hear about Spidey and Addie!
Addie had to have surgery?
Will be thinking of them and praying!
Sure do miss them.
Sam and GCG,
I will give credit was it’e due too.
The only good credit I give is to Baez, Casey and their team.
Also, much credit to the jury that seemed a complicated case, but
using common sense PLUS, the lies from the prosecution and coverups,
they were very astute, didn’t just grab not guilty out of the air.
They did go by the law and now they’re having to stay hid like Casey.
Loly,
Maybe the investigators in charge should learn from the jurors:
What class and following the Law is all about!
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<? Gee was there an illegal operation going on , including fraud etc that possibly GA was involved in as well as his well known addictions to sex and gambling, etc, etc?
Could be the reason why possibly GA convincing KC to keep the father’s name off of the Birth Certificate??……No father, more welfare monies…..
Thanks everyone! I like to think of it as my contribution.
Sam
January 29, 2012 at 12:21 pm
TY. I also think that is possible and also wonder if the thinking was hide her somewhere that not only had been searched but multiple times. Thinking maybe no one would look there ….again.
Sam
January 29, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Honestly, I’m not even picking & choosing information. I just found a bunch of information and then organized it into a timeline. That is what turned out. I wasn’ty even expecting the total results. I agree Sam. NO ONE wanted to hear it or talk about it. Except when they told her “I’m going to take you out of here, away from your mother, because she can’t know”. Wasn’t it George who shut that down? If not then Cindy for sure. Further proof of Cindy’s deep seated denial.
I’ll be online tonight so I’ll look around for any further tidbits I can find.
JB, thanks for getting my post out of the dungeon. LOL. I never knew the difference because it still showed up for me.
GCG People had wondered about that and I was thinking the docs said that no one in the family had ever even applied for State benefits as far as food stamps, welfare, medicaid. There reason is she would have to produce a father for DNA testing. If she is unable to they may be refused or if she refuses to disclose the father they will be refused. IIRC the WS were all over it also and determined she dind’t recieve any.
GCG,
I honestly believe that the investigators don’t give one crap about the law. THe jury is admonished to “FOLLOW THE LAW”
They Do take it seriously.
I keep thinking about how the talking heads were EXTREMELY worried about juror number three. LMAO
THat in itself was nothing for the talking heads to be telling the public.
HOW DARE!!!!
Holly,
Did you notice George at the money collecting stand tell some reporter, I don’t know, just mumbling on and on maybe it was someone that was mad at me???
Or am I falling behind? lol
I wanted to catch up.
You should have been the investigator! : ) SERIOULY!!!
Got company coming, so I want catch up tonight.
I can’t wait, you have so much!! You Go Super Sleuth!! : )
Addie and Spidergirl, please get better and come back to us. Sending love.
Mimi, happy birthday
JB, you have mail.
hello missionites, just wanted to say hello and wish you all a super week!!
xoxo
Wow, just trying to catch up. Get well soon to Addie and Spidergirl… Happy Bday MIMI
I was trying to read back, but wow. There is just so much information. HGM amazes me with the research. I read through it and find that there are little tid bits here and there that support JB opening statement. Its too bad we had to read all of the discovery docs, and then in the end find out what happened. Now we get to go back through and find the things that support her story. It seems each time someone goes back and post an old article, it is right in line with the defense story.
Tes will play tough to find proof that kc was aware of those searches happening at those times. How can one read someone elses mind? How can one know if they are sitting in jail. ? Sure, she found out later, but thats not the question. Did she know that tes was searching in Sept. during Sept? I doubt it. This man came in to her life and has done nothing but point the finger at her. She never met him before, she did not even know who he was. None of this is her fault. IMO
*** UPDATE ON ADDIE****
Nurse just came out and everything good, dr closing up now and will be out soon to meet with family.
^^ Thanks for the Bday wishes! ((((((HUGS))))))
GCG, how is the new Gbaby?
If one doesnt have support from the father, or if the father is out of commission, or whatever the case may be, it’s easier to get on State aide as it goes by income level, not if one has a person’s name on the birth certificate….That is in most States….I guess Florida is different……Nonetheless,
it seemed soooo easy for George and Cindy to get right on State disability,,,,,that’s for sure
Mimi, he’s great,,,,i’ll put him on my avatar for a few…..Thanks for the updates and asking!!
GREAT GCG~ on the Disability, it could have been like short term disability from work… OR there are some instances that people with mental disabilities get SS Disability. (read some stuff on the SS website) On the state benefits stuff, I worked for Child Support Enforcement in our state for 4 yrs, and it use to be called AFDC (aide for dependent children) now I heard its called TAF or something like that. Anyway you sign up and get what folks use to call a welfare check. BUT, you have to list the fathers name (lol if you only could see how many some had) and they would go down the line doing DNA checks… OH and they dont get by with just saying “I dont know” lol. Have to answer a bunch of private questions. AND if you dont follow the rules, no $. AND if they find the Poppa, he is resp for paying for HIS DNA and then they set up for CS from that moment on. AND he has to pay back any $ and Medicaid back. NOW thats how it was when I work there, less than 10 yrs ago. I think its right, if you want to try to get the assistance, then you need to be held accountable for your end. OH and you have to swear under oath lol
OH HE IS A KEEPER FOR SURE~~~ thanks for sharing! LOL Our new lil rascal is gonna be 5 months old on the 6th of Feb and he weighs 18 lbs!!!! SOLID and full of lil baby wrinkles~ Laughs all the time. Hoping your as blessed as we are with Good Babies!
Isnt being a Grandparent the BEST JOB? I truly believe that ole saying…. If I knew it was this much fun, I would have had my GrandChildren FIRST~~ Enjoy and THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
YEs being a grandparent is the BEST! He’s just a month old this week. Sounds like yours is enjoying your home cooked meals mimi LOL……..Love it…
Thanks for all the info,,,,,
I wonder if G&C is on perm disability…IF so I bet Cindy is happy. First time in her marriage
George actually brought in some steady income. Guess his suicide note was worth something……Just sayin
GCG….OMG….HOW PRECIOUS AND BEAUTIFUL!!! Thanks for letting us see this pic!!!
Mimi….Happy Birthday again lady, and thank you so very much for the updates on Addie. Love ya!!
Spidey…..Get better!! Still prayin’ for you and miss you.
Hello Loly and HGM and JB and Zuben and Hazaka and Sam and Eagle and MWM. And Lisa and COL and anyone else I might have accidentally missed. Have an awesome evening everyone!
Snoop…if you’re reading…..HI!!
GCG LOL thats too funny, GA finally has steady income lol good one
Your Welcome Omar, Last I heard, I let yall know. She is out of surgery…. JB, you will probally never understand how much this special hangout means to us ALL! But maybe, I feel you feel the same about us as we do you! SO AGAIN, THANK YOU MOMMA JB, for instilling the desire for truth…. we have learned alot of truth here, even some about ourselves
LOL found this post over at the OtherSide, I had to change a bad name for Casey because it is very rude and would get caught as spam here. It has to do with Swamp… but lol these are the same folks who FOR SURE thought she would be found guilty, BUT WAS ACQUITTED ~
it’s too bad the 5th DCA didn’t give CASEY’s appeal the heave-ho when they couldn’t meet deadline. It might snake it’s way thru, but I don’t think the civil trial should come before the appeal is resolved; that appeal is EPIC FAIL as anyone w/half a brain cell knows.
Reply Posted by: JMHO | Thursday, January 26, 2012 at 7:55 PM
OH and I think this is Joemama posting under this name, saw other comments in ref to it.
HGM – WOW! You have done an amazing job of bringing all of this together. It sure has helped to see it laid out like this. I agree with Loly -you can organize so that a book could be written! This is perfect for the sectioning of info by topics like we talked about before. Cudoos to you gal!
I had read that George had taken out some credit cards in Cindy’s name and run charges up on them in the past. I believe it was Rick Pleasa who stated this (on Topix) but will have to search thru my hundreds of saved sites/postings to find it. It did say 2 things to me. 1. George’s actions taught Casey how to do this and 2. Were all of the “charges” attributed to Casey really all Casey’s?LE did Caylee the biggest dis-service by not investigating GA!
Aid in Fl is based on the whole household’s income. Cindy’s income & benefits would have knocked them out of getting Temporary cash assistance, food stamps, & medicaid, even with 4 people in the house. The disability George & Cindy are on is Social Security, but it does have to go through the state Health & Human Services to be approved first, before it goes to SS. Suicide attempts does qualify you for SS. Cindy is probably being treated for depression.
No disability is permanent. They review you every 3 years.
Lisa thanks for the explanation. I dont understand tho why SSD would have to go thru the State HHS that is Federal. SSI is need based so I doubt they qualified for that, unless both werent working and I think they both were out of work there after the body was found at the least. I know all states have diff rules, I just thought that SS was same across the board. Know what I get for assuming!
JB are you watching the Pro Bowl? Drew Bress just tried to kick a field goal, but did a drop kick (like a punt) instead. Funny.
Mimi I don’t know why either but when you apply for SS it’s the HHS that tells you you’ve been approved & your check is on the way. Then you get the letter from SS.
In Fl you can apply for disability through DCF or SS.
BAHAHAHAA
THEY ARE NOW CONFIRMING the fact of using diff names AND BITING EACH OTHER! lol toooo funny!
@crapshoot. there is something I can fully agree with you on. Quite insightful on this quote.
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“And whenever things get testy in here some regs become trolls to continue their agenda.”
Reply Posted by: Joemama | Friday, January 27, 2012 at 9:32 PM
Lisa, I wonder if it is because FL is so populated? Very poss. Thanks!
Oh I left a msg on my theory on the questions Casey has to answer on the Just Us… tell me what yall think LOL
LAUGHING MAN WHINING AGAIN!!!!!!!
The Official Jeffrey Ashton Page
This article shows what I am up against. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-lawson-lamar-fundraising-20120128,0,7566587.story.
We have raised almost $10,000.00 but we have a huge hill to climb. If you have not already done so please visit the website electjeffashton.com and sign up and contribute. Every little bit helps. We at 13,000 strong. If only twenty percent of you can contribute just $25 that puts us ahead of the game. To those who already have given my deepest thanks.
Jeff
MIMI! LOL My candidate (Williams) has raised $10,000+ and Laughing JackAsston?
“Meanwhile, former prosecutor Ashton only filed papers with the state Division of Elections announcing his candidacy in late December. So far his campaign has listed $2,500 in loans.”
Better get to disclosing those funds there Jeffey!
GasCanGeorge
January 29, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Awwww what a handsome little man. Precious!
Mimi! Bestest Birthday Wishes! Muah! & yes, you are correct about the AFDC/TANF info.
nonifirst
January 29, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Thanks Noni! I remember you mentioning this before, especially the question about were all of the charges against Cindy’s accounts really done by Casey as has been previously thought. I remember it because ever since I feel certain you are right!
I hope there is a court order for Marinade Dave and Snoopysleuth to disclose how much they contribute to Jeff Ashton’s candidacy. They bad mouth the Jurors and claim JA is a great guy.
Maybe he was ok before but the way he has conducted himself in his desire to send a young woman to death without convicting facts, then whine, help me become a big dog in the governing body of the state. What a trashy bunch. They have absolutely no humility. Has anyone heard that they are now blaming Kathy Burdick as being his problem. That she is the one that messed it all up for him. If anyone messed up before JA was put into it, it was LE. Could be they knew he would be one who took their faulty speculations and would to do them a service. He failed to make them look good.
HGM LOL, Yep he better get to disclosing! I thought funny he has an amount of $25. Oh and last week or so, he was asking fb folks to meet for photo ops! I laughed because I was thinking oh he has to ask folks to meet him for photos on fb, does no one who he is trying to get votes from want a pix from him?
OH did you see where Linda DB gave Lamar $100? lol thats what that article said anyways
now those are some political debates I would like to watch lol JA and Lamar! too funny IMHO.
LOL can anyone help a laughing, whining begger out?! I dont know much about politics, but this just seems STRANGE TO ME!
Jeff Ashton for State Attorney 2012
Some exciting news! We are close to securing a small office in the Orlando area. With that in mind, we are looking for some donations from you. We need a couple of desks, folding tables, folding chairs, filing cabinets, a working computer for data entry, cases of paper and other office essentials. If you can donate any of these items to the campaign, please send an email to: info@electjeffashton.com. If you are outside of Central Florida, and want to help, we need your financial support to help defray office rent. We need the thermometer to rise on our home page. http://alturl.com/qaahy
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The good people of Orlando probably hate Ashton cause in wasted so much of their money on this trial. Maybe he should run for president instead.
Gonna have to go to bed, getting a crick in my neck from reading lol. Prayers for peaceful rest to and for ALL! Hugs, Mimi
I got so tickled at seeing GCG’s lil tyke that I wanted to share.
http://tinypic.com/r/10zwap4/7 This was taken last Halloween. He’s 8 mos now & wearing size 18 mos and I’m not even joking LOL
Jeff Ashton is riding out his dream on the death of a child. I believe he thinks there are so many people who agree with him that Casey was guilty, fanning the hate, that they will step up and fill his pockets with cash. His behavior all the way and throughout his book and campaign is a total disrespect for Caylee Marie Anthony. Her mother was acquitted by a jury who used their heads and saw right through the railroading of the prosecution and LE.
OMG MIMI! Are you serious?! I missed that part! LMAO!
What a cutie HGM you to GCG.
Just Us won’t let me in with my password. I e-mailed JB for some help. Any suggestions out there?
Hey Lisa, Thanks! It might be a caps lock issue?
Oh my my my!!! Have you guys seen the latest in the Holly & Jon Briley story? OMG!
http://radionewz.net/2012/01/cayleeswarriors-duped-and-heading-down-the-drain/
#ExpectMe – LMAO
Posted on January 30, 2012 by Prinnie
Sticks & stones may break my bones, but emails sent with extortion threats are going to get you SUED and possibly incarcerated! It has LONG been suspected that the two Ohio video puppet masters have been using multiple Twitter accounts and blogger sites to defame, harass, libel and bully anyone that spoke out against them and their fellow #cayleeswarriors but today they all but confirmed their guilt. In fact, they delivered to an attorney at law their special brand of stupid all wrapped up in an IP address and glitter bow! Hollyshere should have just sent her underwear because she got caught with her pannies down!! She sent an email from an anonymous emailer that sent her IP address with the correspondence. DOH!!! But when that wasn’t good enough, because these people DO NOT HAVE ANY SELF CONTROL – she attempted to extort via Facebook. There isn’t much else for me to say about this other than these people are obviously not the sharpest crayons in the box, and I hope this week brings lawsuits and criminal charges!
You can get the documents over at Radio’s blog. Some interesting reading if I do say so myself!!!
http://prinniefied.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/expectme-lmao/
Here is a photo of my twitter timeline from Jan 11 2012 wherein I had tried to get it through Holly Briley’s thick skull that making threats to people unless they do something you want them to is EXTORTION. Well, now it seems that she is about to find out for realz!
Holly, herself, under her own name, used her FB account to attempt to extort Kim Picazio! Well, it seems she didn’t take too kindly to it after all the flax she has taken over Haleigh’s case and she never even stepped foot into Caylee’s case so many are stymied as to why Holly would attack Kim in such a fashion. The smart blogger knows that it really has to do with the war in Twittertown.
More to come….
Oh yeah, I meant to inlcude this link. It’s a photo of my twitter timeline wherein on Jan 11 2012 I was trying to tell Holly AKA Amelia that what she was attampting to do to rh319 (Rob) was extortion. SHe had tweeted to him that if he didn’t do what she wanted she would publicly post personal information about him online and tweet it around. You can see what I told her but obviously it didn’t do any good.
I can hardly wait to see how this all turns out!
http://i39.tinypic.com/16lmm1i.jpg
Bump LOL GM Everyone!
jb-who is allowed to participate in the “Just Us” thread? Tried my WP password and it didn’t work. If it is a place that is by invitation only I understand and won’t bug u about it. Thanks! Noni
jb – WHOOPS! Just checked my email again and saw your response. Thanks jb! Noni
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Oh good, I’m glad you found it. Cmon girl! We’re having a party!
JB
JB, I sent you an email last night inquiring about the Just Us thread also. Still waiting for a response, yay or nay?
Off Topic but Oh MY GOSH! Saw this on the news and HAD to share with you all! GOD BLESS THIS LADY! She gave birth to a 13 POUND 13 Ounce BABY! NO SURGERY OR MEDS LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/asher-stewardson-13-pound-baby_n_1241904.html?ref=mostpopular
BAHAHAHAAH oh THE HATERS ON THE OtherSide cant stand it, now they are asking for a new article lol You know thats ALL THAT HAL has going there, Casey Anthony! WOO HOO! Money Maker, duh Haters who is making money off of HER? LOL X14! Look at this POST! Mind you that you have to look down 21 articles to find the LAST Casey article. A total of 48 for those articles, then the last article for Casey prompting this request, has 704 comments. Hmmmmmm
BEGGING TO KEEP CASEY IN THE HEADLINES, AND BIT@HING ABOUT HER BEING IN THE HEADLINES
SOUNDS KINDA WHINNIE LIKE JEFFY!
Hal, first direct comment Ive ever made..but who’s counting…anyways…as the topic of this thread took a tangent towards the pro’s and cons of the possibility of monetary gain due to paid interviews for Casey, perhaps another thread reflecting some of that to energize or refresh this saga. You have many irons in the fire with all your threads, but none as popular as anything regarding the tragedy of Caylee’s death. I can understand why you cant concentrate solely on threads about this case. I would fire you too for being so narrow minded! But a little update to stimulate the residents of your blog wouldnt hurt. Nothing much going to talk about other than potential gains from Casey. Seems there is some interest in that. Maybe its not in the news, not only an issue not discussed by your news outlet or others, but certainly discussed by your patrons. Just a thought. Im sure you would have much participation. Anything related, you know is a winner. Appreciate your patience in keeping these threads alive. Rest assured, how the ones that do appreciate can also be patient to put up with the nonsense. Hope that never becomes a deterrent. Plenty of people here that care that makes the ones that dont, insignificant. Once again, thanks for your patience.
Reply Posted by: Cochi | Monday, January 30, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Ya know what is kinda funny/odd, is that all these so called folks who “love and adore” Caylee, the so called Caylee Warriors, go on and on how beautiful she is and uhhh and ahhh over her sweet pix, DO THEY NOT REALIZE THIS IS A CHILD OF CASEY ANTHONY? WHO LOOKS LIKE HER MOTHER AND MOST OF THEM HER MOTHER CASEY ANTHONY TOOK? Stupid. People like that would cut their nose off in spite of their faces!
Yes Caylee was a beautiful baby girl! DUH
Mimi, it just goes to show thier ability to think things through. Kind of like boycotting…uh…everything. LOL
Good afternoon all,
well it seems like there’s a huge lull in the KC Anthony drama. Not much to discuss, although I did read at OS that InSession was going to air Zenaida v. Casey trial. BTW, does anyone know when this will happen?
Anyway, after skimming thru websites, wftv, wesh, and yes OS, I came across this really ridiculous comment today.
Okay.. I just mentioned there’s nothing going on..yet this person has a “feeling” that something big is in the horizon. This person says “skank” is doing some threatening to people over the internet. lol..Really? OMG
So I’m sorry things are slow but no matter what I won’t belittle myself to promote rumors such as this. We all know it’s the OPPOSITE.
Cest la vie.. It looks like a week of “Casey-free”
Well, I’m having lots of fun, working on taxes. But I drug myself away, took a break to peak at the defending Casey page and see that Hensley is gracing them with his presence today. He seems to be saying no one hacked Casey’s computer but the video being leaked was never supposed to happen, trusting the wrong person, no doubt. He said the media must have the 2nd video, of which only a few seconds was shown because they’ve asked him about the names of the people they discovered through lip reading. He said only Casey could ever make money from any of that and maybe MBC is holding the other video to go with an interview later. That would be smart, IMO and it does make sense. Now, I’ve noticed that everyone that had the last pic of her, in the winter hat, has taken it down. I can’t find it anywhere I saw it before. The boycott page run by the Brileys is on sabbatical and nothing from Holly except an apology to the attorney, Kim P trying to cover her butt and avoid a law suit. What a circus. Looking back on this whole thing, I think it is true that she was chatting with some “friends” that were secret enemies hoping to cash in or just cause trouble.
Thank you Zub, for explaining. I thought from the beginning that someone leaked the video because it didn’t make sense for KC to do it and even if she did, so what?
What harm is that.. is that against probation rules, no chatting on the internet?
And if there were harm, it would only hurt Kc if she does have an impending TV special or something..
So yes, I’m with you. I think she may have trusted the wrong people.
All this hoopla was because of the boycott page which just proves to me, that they accomplished nothing. They’re useless and can’t do a thing to stop KC…except b*tch and moan.
I don’t know much about video chatting but I wonder if she were chatting and someone recorded it without her knowing, at least the 2nd video. The 1st really does look like it was meant for only her and a counselor. Maybe she shared it with someone just to show what she looks like now or something similar. If it had been stolen from her computer I would think we would have heard something by now, a police report or something. That is why I think she shared it with the wrong person or else who ever she lives with accessed it without permission. That is a possibility. Notice any other people in pictures with her has been scribbled out. She may have thought it was stolen at first, not wanting to believe a friend would do that, but then realized it wasn’t a criminal matter after all.
Yep, its him:
Rob Hensley the person talking as casey on this page is a fake…its a old real account of casey’s
http://caseyomarie.slide.com/
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Rob Hensley this is the person that is behind that slide account and has nothing to do with casey
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001309494538
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Rob Hensley he also ran this fake casey profile which he only opens up from time to time….michelle and barb love talking to him
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002688553561&sk=wall
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I thought this was interesting response from HAL at the OtherSide: Since I am a rather newbie still, I was under the impression that there was a few things under seal still. Hmmmm
Hal, is the OS pursuing any more ’sealed’ documents from the murder trial to be released or is that not possible with the ‘lying appeal’ pending since they lying conviction came from the murder trial.
Reply Posted by: crapshoot1 | Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 7:45 PM
HAL’S NOTE: I’ve asked my colleagues, and we believe the only other documents that are still sealed involve Baez and finances before Anthony was declared indigent.
Posted by: halboedeker | Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 7:51 PM
Hal: What about the pictures LE showed George that made him vomit? I think they were sealed.
Reply Posted by: emily | Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 8:00 PM
Hal 7:51 For some odd reason I thought there were some pics also sealed. Along with that goofy guys ‘taping’ of his ‘meeting’ that had to do with the searches. Forgot his name. LDB, I thought, had it sealed and never even listened to it herself IIRC.
It’s been such a long odyssey I’m glad you guys are keeping track for us. Thanks!
Reply Posted by: crapshoot1 | Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 8:04 PM
I just read a few ago this article lol see he had to put up another
I pray for Casey, it DOES MEAN A CHANGE OF VENUE, SHE CAN NEVER GET A FAIR TRIAL IN ORANGE COUNTY. IMHO LOL AND THE HATERS ARE GONNA GO FREAKING CRAZY LOL 
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We learned today that a Feb. 14 hearing has been scheduled to discuss trial logistics. The trial is set to begin in April.
The hearing with be at 8:30 a.m. on Valentine’s Day. The notice of hearing was filed by John Morgan and Keith Mitnik, Gonzalez’s attorneys. By doing so, they notified Charles Greene, Anthony’s lawyer.
On Monday, Judge Lisa Munyon had ordered that the parties arrange a hearing. http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/01/casey-anthony-feb-14-hearing-set-on-trial-logisitcs.html#comments
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Does logistics translate to where the trial will be held? If so, will Greene be requesting a change of venue?
Reply Posted by: thedeviledadvocate | Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 7:05 PM
TDA @ 7:05…Means as such to me. Change of venue.
Reply Posted by: Cochi | Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 8:16 PM
I thought in a civil trial the defendant had the choice of a jury or a bench trial? In ths case if it were me I would go for a bench trial.
I with you on that Karen. Meee tooo. At least so far the Judge seems to be trying to go by the book. IMO. Now if it were a nut like Stan, well enough said…..
maybe it is up to whomever is filing the charges?
JB, did you see where new release from Air Force the day JFK was assassinated has been released? Saw it on the evening news and thought about your Mother
I am sure she knows it all by now, and just cant wait to tell ya the scoop
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-NARA-JFK-ASSASSINATION-AUDIO/content-detail.html
If it is a jury trial wouldn’t it be funny if they awarded ZG just $10 for her 10 minutes of being questioned (and cleared) by LE?
Has anyone read this article yet?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/anonymous-internet-war_n_1233977.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D131330
Here’s an interesting article addressing anonymous internet war..lol.. Sounds familiar?
Wow, I believe this is a dilemna I found myself in, but not on this scale but I’m still concerned. Is being on the internet worth it?
Just today, I had an ATT rep knock on my door asking if we’d like to take advantage of a new ATT package deal; cable tv, internet and phone for $119 a month, first month free.
I was just about to join up when he reached for his phone to call his manager to set up an appt. for installation. Everything was fine until he handed me the phone to verify the order by asking me for my SS # to run a credit check. At that moment, I got a weird feeling..I backed out of the deal saying “I need to ask my husband” har har..
I just can’t trust anyone anymore after reading this article. Not only do the trolls harass you online, they’ll harass you face to face.
So now, I’m regretting everything I did today. I allowed this guy in my home, gave my name, my phone number and now he knows what I look like.
A couple of years ago, I wouldn’t have given it a second thought. So have the trolls won? Isn’t that what they try to do, instill fear in your everyday life. IDK. Tomorrow, I’ll call ATT to make sure they are sending out agents door to door.
Wow, thank you AKM,
Yes, my Mom would have loved to hear this. I’ll definitely listen to it tonight.
What I”m really looking forward to is when the government releases the full report. Last I heard, the public had to wait 75 years. That was about 30 years ago. lol.. Not sure if I’ll still be around but I did tell my kids to be on the lookout in the future.
IMO, Just by the fact that the CIA is keeping this from the public tells me they must be hiding something.
I tend to agree with you on that JB.
WOW I have OFFICIALLY been a Mother for 29 years now! My oldest daughter was born 29 yrs ago at 12;33 am
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Well congratulations to you and Happy Birthday to her!
jb
Nite all, Prayers for Peaceful Rest to you each and everyone! Hugs, Mimi
So now 35 year old Geeks rule the Web…I guess it really is Revenge of the Nerds.
It seems true that every Troll is a 17 yr old. At least emotionally.
http://prinniefied.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/hurted-feelings/ LOL
OMG the Briley’s have all their screws loose!
Interesting the irc sniped. I brought up irc a long time ago because it was found on the home computer. Irc being the underground internet that has been there even before the web. I used it for 3 or 4 years back in the early 90′s or late 80′s. This is definately a place where provacative pictures could have been aquired. IMO
Eagle @ 7:49 – I hve never used irc and probably wouldn’t know where to start. I have a basic understanding of what it is and found the link posted by JB earlier to be very interesting. I agree that it sounds like that would be a gould way to acquire the “provocative pictures” as you put it. I just wonder who in the Anthony household would be savvy enough to use it? I am not sure how difficult it (irc) is to set up and use. I guess I always thought of it as a geeks playground sort of thing. JMO
Arkansasmimi
January 31, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Hal: What about the pictures LE showed George that made him vomit? I think they were sealed.
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George was vomiting looking at his gascan photos as they were being held for ransom…..
I believe GA knows how to use it and he is very computer Savy and old enough to be around when Irc was very popular.
Eagle,
He certainly had plenty of time on his hands…..
And probably plenty of time on line gambling. I wish all the information on that home computer would be released. I would love to go through it.
Yeah, you and me both
Oh, and I forgot that they never released all of the photos of the gas can. This goes way back to August of 08 I believe. Hal is over there on the os telling everyone that all sealed evidence has been released other than the information about the 200000.oo. He is full of it. There is stuff that never got released.
Hi Eagle & GasCan,
Do you recall when we were checking out JoJo’s Cookie Jar? I’m wondering if LE candy coated Georgie’s internet hobbies. I know it’s been reported that he had a gambling problem but there weren’t any gambling site in his cookies, only Escort services. So maybe he wasn’t spending Cindy’s money on gambling but was spending it on escorts??
If it had been reported to the press that he was searching escort sites, the public may have looked at him differently. Do you think this is possible?
Hi Yellow Dog, nice to see you.
Good question.. IIRC, it was said that Lee was computer savvy. Remember when the pic of Caylee and Grandpa were found from the nursing home, it was dated June 15th, some people wonder if Lee could have tampered with the camera. I’m sure it’s not a big deal to do that..but they say..Lee has some skillz.
According to docs George worked for at least some part of his 10 yrs on the force in Ohio
as a detective/investigator. I’m sure he is not only aware but PROFICIENT. What about the FBI/LE asking him about an unknown item and he replied “I …uh…don’t know….Casey would know how to do something like that.”. What was that about? IRC? That 1 single post of Fusion on June 16 2008 that made a 5 hour gap a 4 hour gap?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, we`re very delighted to have another private investigator with us right now, exclusively. Private I, Pat McKenna; Pat thanks for being in here.
You were hired by Linda Kenney-Baden reportedly and began working on this case right around the time that little Caylee`s remains were found. I want to get your reaction.
Now, first of all, I want to get your reaction to something that this other Private I, Jim Hoover, said today to me. He claims that he feels that the Anthony camp, that`s all he would say, knew the location of the body for a long time. And that that was one of the reasons that they were down there videotaping. And that even before that, that they had gotten clues or word that the body was in that location from the Anthony camp.
PAT MCKENNA, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Well, I don`t know, how Mr. Hoover, where he got that information from. You`re right. I got in the case the day the remains were found. And Linda Kenney brought me in and since that day, you know, I`ve worked as a defense investigator for Jose.
I didn`t really work with Dominic or Jim. I worked with Jerry Lyons and Mort Smith from DePaul University.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: When I was talking spoke to you on the phone, I asked if you had anything new, and you said something that I found pretty significant about the molestation allegations against George. Tell me when you found out about them and whether or not you confronted any family members about them.
MCKENNA: I never confronted a family member. We thought that this had happened. This was learned by the mitigation people, I guess, and probably Jose early on in the case. I interviewed George back in `08 a good number of hours, two or three hours and, you know, I didn`t ever confront him with that.
I learned that the defense has confronted him with that. Mr. Lippman said he just got in, in January. I don`t know when they may have confronted George with that. But maybe George double-crossed Mr. Lippman.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: You said that you saw or heard something about George being confronted prior to the trial and his reaction. Tell me that. Tell me.
MCKENNA: Yes, I had heard that he was confronted with specific information, quite specific information and that he did not shout out or deny it or anything. He looked out the window for, I heard, 23 seconds. Looked back and didn`t say anything. To me, that`s significant.
George is an interesting character. This isn`t over for George, I don`t think. He`s been a master double-crosser throughout the case. He double-crossed his daughter. He double-crossed his wife, he double-crossed his mistress. He`s double-crossed law enforcement.
He double-crossed the court. He`s a former officer of the court and he committed perjury in court. He tried to double cross the jury and I think they saw through it. I don`t think this is over for George.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me say sir that we had George`s attorney, Mark Lippman on just a little while ago and I asked him about what you had told me on the phone, which you just repeated.
MCKENNA: Right.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Pat, what I want to ask you is, are you still in touch with the defense team? Or have you kind of moved on and have gotten out of this vortex?
MCKENNA: Well, I`m out of the vortex. I`m back in West Palm Beach; I have other cases. But no, I`m in constant contact with members of the team.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Why? It`s over.
MCKENNA: Pardon me?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Huh? Is it? Is that what you said?
MCKENNA: I didn`t hear you. I`m sorry.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Pat, I want to thank you. I think you broke up a little bit. But my understanding is that you`re still in constant contact with members of the defense team. Is that correct?
MCKENNA: That`s correct, probably for the rest of my life. It was a great team to be associated with. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/11/ijvm.01.html
JERRY LYONS, LEAD DETECTIVE FOR CASEY ANTHONY`S DEFENSE: You know, when George was there, by the defense team, “Have you ever sexually abused your daughter,” he never answered. He just stared. He just stared. For more than 20 seconds, he just stared.
And then he was asked if he was having an affair with Krystal Holloway or River Cruz, and he denied that.
But he never denied having, you know, sexually abusing his daughter, Casey. Never denied it to us. And so, you know, you have to wonder.
JOE EPISCOPO, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You know, hey Leonard, three years ago we sat next to each other right outside the Anthony home.
PADILLA: Correct. Absolutely.
EPISCOPO: And I questioned your sincerity, you said you wanted to find the child, and I said, what if you don`t, and you said you would have tried. What is this? What are you suing for? I mean come on. That doesn`t sound like the man I know.
PADILLA: Joe.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait, hold on. Hold on. You asked the question, give him a chance to respond.
EPISCOPO: That doesn`t sound like you.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Leonard — one at a time, gentlemen.
EPISCOPO: What`s up? What`s up? Why are you doing that?
PADILLA: Joe, Jose knew the child was dead three visits after — when he visited a third time in jail, she ran the story to him that her dad had been baby-sitting the child, the babysitter — baby-sitting, she drowned. He made her take him and her around the corner and dump the body of the baby. She told Jose that while she was in jail long before I ever contacted him and said, “We`re going to find the live child.”
It was a live child I was looking for. I was very sincere in that. I never, ever made any motions about —
EPISCOPO: But how do you know that she told him that at that time? How do you — say you know that.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, let me jump in here —
EPISCOPO: That`s attorney/client. How`d you get into the attorney/client privilege?
PADILLA: Law enforcement overheard him in the jail when she was telling him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/14/ijvm.01.html
Hi Eagle & GasCan,
Do you recall when we were checking out JoJo’s Cookie Jar? I’m wondering if LE candy coated Georgie’s internet hobbies. ………………….
I think they candy coated many things, George has been one lucky dude all these years..
One would think he’d be the first to jump and take a poly since he was an officer of the court. Also, remember George telling Casey she needed to renew her drivers
license while she was in jail>? That made me go hmmmm
Also Lee left his home that he was renting to move in with his parents for a short time, claiming he needed to help them out financially. To be honest, I wouldnt let them sink, not bail them out, let his father go bring in the dough……It seems as tho George has ridden the gravy train all his life…..
I wonder if Cindy knows that George has her as living at his parents address……
I also wonder why George A had a few different addressess as well..
What baffles me is Cindy Anthony staying with this man……I guess after all that happened to her granddaughter still monies takes priority>? She’s the true sicko
IMOO
Typo prior post….I meant to say would’ve let his parents sink
If you look it up, Cindy Anothony is listed as living with George’s parents.,,,,
I wonder why, I dont think George’s mother is named Cindy>?
Right now? GCG?
Dunno Lisa, but when you look it up she;s listed,,,,,Maybe George was
trying to get another card in her name and used that address? I wonder if one of George’s sister’s is a Cindy>?
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Lee+Anthony&s2=t7#Florida:1665808257
GCG, the only way those pictures would be sealed is if law enforcement gave them to the state attorney and they or the defense asked for them to be sealed. If they were, then we’d know about it because the act of sealing would be in the court record just like when they temporarily sealed the jail video and the jail snitch stuff. Either the pictures they were talking about were the ones we’ve seen or else they were George’s, they decided they weren’t evidence and never turned them over to the SA or they did turn them over and the SA decided they weren’t discoverable evidence. If they didn’t plan to use them they don’t have to turn it over unless it is exculpatory. Of course, we know how broad Ashton’s opinion of what is exculpatory is but Burdick would have had the final say in this case, because she was the lead prosecutor.
From the clerk, concerning the case still on appeal,
Defendant ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
Total Financial Assessment 23,609.34
Total Payments and Credits 19,255.34
Balance Due as of 02/02/2012 4,354.00
And on the uttering and forging case, final payment of 338 made yesterday
Defendant ANTHONY, CASEY M
Total Financial Assessment 1,149.92
Total Payments and Credits 1,149.92
Balance Due as of 02/02/2012 0.00
Zuben @ 12:44 – I did not realize Casey had paid off that much. Something tells me there is a good chance she will be released early from her probation, possibly this month.
Zuben and GasCan – About those pictures. Do you think there is a chance that the pictures from the computer were not considered relevant to the murder case but perhaps are not being released because they are part of a different, on-going investigation that no one (in the public) is aware of?
JMO
If it’s over forCindy, George, Kronk and the LE after their pathetic testimonies, we have JUST a more sickos that should have been where Casey is now, not Casey.
I just had a question really, supposedly George threw up after seeing some pictures. I think they tried to make it look as though it was pictures of Casey. Could it have possibly been George’s pictures he was looking at? He SURE wouldn’t throw up at any of Casey’s pictures. THat’s just BS!
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Teen-claims-she-killed-dad-because-of-abuse/-/1735978/8567064/-/mrmrpnz/-/index.html
So damn common!
She could get 40 years in prison. JUst sick!
I hope that the verdict is “not guilty” for her.
He ruined her life anyway!
Loly – I agree about George vomiting fter being shown the pictures. The IMPLICATION has always been that they were some raunchy pictures of Casey. I doubt it. Wasn’t he there at the foot of the bed when Caylee was born? When my daughter gives birth I doubt that I will even want to be in the room. That’s what they make waiting rooms for. My wife can go in and come out and tell me all about it later.
I think a more likely story would be that they were pictures that George knew about and he was surprised that LE had found them. He thought he was in trouble and that’s what made him throw up. But that’s just MY opinion.
I agree!
You know I’m not prudish, I think that’s the word, but it just seems strange, but it’s George for you. I think he wanted to be in there in case Casey told the doctor or nurse who the babies daddy was. There’s time now where the whole family is in there. Me delivering, If I had the chance and I think that I would, tell them all to get out the hell out. It just wouldn’t have happened in my case anyway.
My sister videoed her daughter giving birth. Who are they going to share it with? I guess the family reunions are going to be differnt now. lol
If that’s what someone chooses, ok, BUT it didn’t seem to make George throw up.
He thought it was a beautiful thing. If anything would make you throw up, that would, beautiful or not.
Zuben thanks for clearing that up.
Well they could’ve found photos of
George doing the Anthony Weiner. Just sayin
Yellow Dog
February 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Add that to the photo WSers claim to have of Casey blowing someone + The website that Aunt Dana talked about that proves Casey’s telling the truth. Anyone thinking the guy might have a birthmark or something showing?
Loly – I think the video of the birth is a little over the top, at least for me. I’ll have to pass on that. When I was born my dad waited with the rest of the anxious fathers-to-be…………..in the bar across the street from the hospital. The nurse would call the bar with the news, everyone would cheer and the new dad would then go and meet his new offspring. Pretty good system, I think, but my wife wouldn’t go for it and I had to be in the room at the HEAD of the bed, holding her hand.
HGM @ 4:00 – Wouldn’t that have been something? Never mind throwing up, if that was the case it’s a wonder he didn’t have a heart attack! JMO
YellowDog,
Really, then your Dad got to see you all fresh and clean. lol
You probably had the stomach for it.
I’m just shocked that George went through 3, one his daughter
and something else he saw of Casey made him throw up. : )
I don’t think so.
Even went he went to his car at the towyard, looks like he would have
thrown up then, that I could understand, but something that LE showed him
and it made him throw up?????
Supposedy Casey? No way!
HGM or YellowDog,
Do you know what date it was George was shown the pictures and is it before or after he
“Attempted” to kill himself or was it just he had too much to drink? : )
BTW, I don’t believe Cindy was worried about him attempting to commit suicide.
He had probably told her that before.
GCG the Lee on that website is 80yrs old his wife? Ruth is 80 also, but it looks like a daughter is Cindy. They have lived in Fort Myers for 24 yrs.
Lisa,
ISnt that George’s parents? I think Lee was named after his grandfather? That is same address and name unless it’s a coincidence
Hi All.
I found this comment over at caseyanthonyisinnocent.com:
“anonymous says:
January 29, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Dear Casey, I can’t reveal myself to you as of yet and for that a good, good reason. just want to let you know that whatever it takes i will see to it that your families good name is restored, and we will GO FROM THERE. I know your innocent, but i want to prove it to all that were involved, but mainly for you. mr ashton is already aware of what im up to, as well as mr uri. and im good with that. there the ones that need to be careful, not me. im good at what i do and that bothers them. he wrote a book to get a head start and he will continue to put obsticles in you way to prevent you from a life you deserve aside from the circumstances. For you i will do anything. And for me casey, its just personal. Im so glad to see a smile on your face, you dont even no. i understand if you dont want to reply. just know that i will stand by you. have a nice day casey
p.s. mr.ashton didn’t mention the use of Promis software in his book, i wonder why?????”
and then later on, this one:
“anonymous in idaho says:
January 31, 2012 at 7:42 am
all the players in caseys prosecution are from AZ./Promis software???????”
I find them interesting because I felt the prosecution team was corrupt or in cahoots in some mysterious way. I wonder if there is anything to these comments? I also was wondering about the irc link mentioned earlier on and if this is connected to that.
Well, if there was something that could hurt George on that computer they would have done something long before now, it’s been over 3 and a half years. But, maybe that was the leverage to get George to “help” them. They used Mary Jane as leverage with Tony and co. I agree, he had much more reason to lose his lunch over what he claimed the trunk smelled like than any pictures that we’ve seen.
Have a great night all.
Well, that is true Zub however I never understood why they didnt use Tony to try and lure more information from Casey….A Lot doesnt make sense in this case, however we have to accept their choice when they decided NOT take it further pertaining the the Anthony Family…..I’m still holding out that this isnt over by a long shot
Hello everyone
Hope all is well!
So many interesting comments however this one by HGM really popped out at me!
PADILLA: Joe, Jose knew the child was dead three visits after — when he visited a third time in jail, she ran the story to him that her dad had been baby-sitting the child, the babysitter — baby-sitting, she drowned. He made her take him and her around the corner and dump the body of the baby. She told Jose that while she was in jail long before I ever contacted him and said, “We`re going to find the live child.”
It was a live child I was looking for. I was very sincere in that. I never, ever made any motions about —
EPISCOPO: But how do you know that she told him that at that time? How do you — say you know that.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, let me jump in here —
EPISCOPO: That`s attorney/client. How`d you get into the attorney/client privilege?
PADILLA: Law enforcement overheard him in the jail when she was telling him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/14/ijvm.01.html
Holy Chit!! I know LP talks a lotta crap, but remember when he said, “what if they’ve already got a body?” like a week before the remains were discovered!
So now he says LE knew since nearly day one, where the remains were!
Which means lots of time for tampering, duct tape planting and Kronk plotting by LE to ensure their conviction.
(if what Padilla says is false then I would think OC could sue him for slander, No?)
Oh and my Ass Padilla was looking for a live child!! What the hell was his dive team doing in Little Econ River?
Also wanted to add what a freaking liar Tim Miller is!
Not my opinion but FACT!
In the same interview sitting Tim says Casey was “All Smiles” bebopping around offering refreshments, drinks ect.
Then he says Casey was not at all friendly towards us.
WTF!! What’d he want her to do? Give him a lap dance? I don’t get it !?!
Then he says on numerous occasions, ” Casey NEVER ONCE mentioned Caylee.
Now he claims Casey said to him,
Please find Caylee, I know she’s alive, please bring her home.
Ummm Kay MR.Miller which is it?
Ohhhhh…. And then his story bout the map incident changed several times!!
One version that I have heard straight from his mouth says it was Cindy who blew up, just as Casey was getting ready to mark the X on the map. Another version I have heard straight from his mouth says it was Casey who blew up and stomped off to her bedroom, then Cindy threw him out.
I doubt very much, if it happened at all, Either way, Casey was not about to mark no damned X on no flippin map!
The man has some serious issues, IMO .
GCG Sorry I misunderstood what you were talking about.
HaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, funny wanted a lap dance.
I feel exactly the same way Indy. Casey comes home and these strangers are all in her house? How would anyone act in that situation?
Tim Miller is as much a liar as George and the liars on the prosecutors team and witnesses.
It doesn’t seem right to me that someone gets bailed out of jail and her house is full of everyone that she can’t trust? That Tracy that was with Leonard P., what right did she have staying there 9 nights? All of the whole thing about them stinks.
So, Leonard P and Tim and going to sue because they were looking for a live child? Bunch of nosey asses. They were just there because some didn’t have a place to eat and sleep. I would not let them stay there first of all, and I sure as hell wouldn’t cook for any of them. All of the bounty hunters want to just get something for nothing in my opinion.
Hi Loly,
I Miss our late night yacks : (
I never understood that Tracy deal either!
Seriously what the heck did LP exactly think he would accomplish by planting an obvious mole in the Anthony home?
Funny that TM and LP are rivals cuz they sure do have loads in common,
Injecting themselves in high profile cases,
Interferring with the investigations,
Mole planting and when the harvest is less than plentiful they fabricate wildly entertaining stories, feed it to the talking heads who then regurgitate it nite after nite to the brainwashed masses.
(ever hear about TM and the search in Aruba?)
I did some researching tonight.
After my lil rant about him being a liar,
It reminded me of him on Nancy Grace saying he had been on a boat in Aruba and they had recovered a crab or fish trap from the bottom of the ocean with a human skull in it!
He claims they turned it over to Aruban authorities and the evidence disappeared.
Well since I heard that, I recall him on TV pleading for donations (in his manipulative ways) for yet another venture to Aruba to find Natalees remains.
I’m thinking WTF !!
You are 100% positive you have already found her remains, and the corrupt skeleton theiving Arubians have done god knows what with them!!
Now what do you expect to accomplish?
Where are you going to be searching?
In the Arubian LEs evidence locker?
Fact of the matter is, it was all a lie!
Tim Miller repeats this crab/lobster/fish trap story over and over to talking head after talking head year after year after year and I kid you not, he has given easily 20 totally contradicting different versions, I found 4 in 1/2 an hour!
I am also thinking he is the one who started the tale about the fisherman hut break in, where someone supposedly stole a large trap.
(not true)
Yet TM claims the head investigator pulled him into a “private room” lol and shared this info with him.
Ever notice how he never has witnesses to back anything up?
It’s always his word with his golden reputation against the hated suspects word!
And he uses this to his advantage, helping the media build the monster, helping LE build their case, all while sponging off the masses donations!
I’m done,,, the haters are gonna love this,,,
My hating on their heros and all.
Nite all
Hi Indy,
I miss them too!
Yep, I would have thrown that Tracey and friends out real quick. She acts like Donna Brock, on a different kind of drug.
You know damn well some are on something and they let Casey go home to them, even though they don’t check them for drugs, the court told Casey to not be around drugs, even though she didn’t have any in her background.
But whoever is in that house they sure don’t check them. I think Casey slept on the floor most of the time. How low can someone get to come in and sleep in her bed! WHAT NERVE!
TM just wanted more of the world to hate Aruba. If he found a skull, why wasn’t the FBI there? I think rhat’s all a bunch of crap too. Notice he checked and searched in deep waters bbut couldn’t “supposedly” wade around in the water looking for Caylee.
Well, we’ll get our nights straight soon.. : )
Enjoyed seeing you. : )
Sleep good. : )
Exactly Indy! NOBODY was looking for a live Caylee except for Cindy and Dom Casey. That’s the truth. People don’t realize that you can’t have it both ways. You can’t swear on a Bible that the car absolutely, undeniably smelled like human decomp and in the next sentence say, “well, we’re off to find a live human being now” .. I say, “no you’re not, you are a liar”
A person could say..the car kind of smelled like a decomposing body but I’m not too sure, so we need to look for a child who’s possibly been kidnapped.
They are all liars. Yuri Melich included. Universal Studios was a trap intended to break their #1 suspect therefore, she should have been read her Miranda Rights that’s why I say the lying charges are so bogus.
Every homicide detective expects to be lied to. That is what they are trained to do. Weed out the lies from the truth and at the same time, lie to the suspect. What Casey did during the investigation wasn’t any different from any other murder suspect.
Did the DA charge Ted Bundy for lying to LE? Did the DA charge Dennis Rader aka BTK with lying to LE? Did the DA charge Susan Smith, guilty of killing both her boys with lying to LE? She lied to world on live television pleading for their safe return.
IMO, Charging a murder suspect with lying must mean that they knew they didn’t have a murder case to begin with and couldn’t let the suspect walk away scott free. Even after she sat in jail for 3 years, they couldn’t let her walk away. lol..After she was ACQUITTED, they couldn’t let her walk away.
And now, as the clock keeps ticking and the end of Casey’s probation nears, they’re still looking for ways to keep this cash cow going. The pitiful losers are still looking for ways to keep their names in media except for ZG who has yet to show her damages. Can’t wait to see what Morgan has congered up. Being a personal injury attorney, I’m sure he knows all of the tricks of the trade. It’ll be comical I’m sure.
I’ll give credit where credit is due. Linda Drane Burdick was the only one who bowed out gracefully and moved on. No television interviews, no writing a book, she sought no political gain and unlike the rest of the leaches, Jeff Ashton included. In truth, the Anthony case belonged to her, Jeffy was her assistant.
OMG, Even the recused Judge Strickland hit the media highway. He was so low, he even did the Nancy Grace show which puts him in the same category as Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller.
Indy says:
“Oh and my Ass Padilla was looking for a live child!! What the hell was his dive team doing in Little Econ River?”
hehehe.. LMAO!
lolypop
February 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Long before. IIRC He was shown those pictures/picture in late July/early August 2008?
Yellow Dog
February 2, 2012 at 6:45 pm
They do say that vomitting can be a sign of a heart attack.
God I love you guys!
Yall crack me up. I love you guys too.
Sick um JB!
Hey Sweetpeas! I ran across this blog last night and I hadn’t noticed it before So I wanted to share it with yous guys. I also noticed that the blogger is a fan JB!!!
http://www.asecondbreath.net/ AKA Casey Didn’t Do It
Anyway, I thought it would be good to add them to our “support” list.
Good Morning Everyone!
I found this article, and although I haven’t read it in it’s entirety yet, I thought I’d share the link with you all.
http://www.shewired.com/lifestyle/2012/01/31/gray-matters-thoughts-inspired-casey-anthony-op-ed
Awesome article, Omar. This part says it all: “What kind of person lies to cover up the bad behavior of someone who they believe caused the death of their baby? I’ll tell you who. A survivor of horrific, life long sexual abuse coupled with emotional neglect who has been protecting that person as a matter of survival for her whole entire life.”
I thought it was awesome, too, Sam! I was shocked to find it when I googled news for Casey Anthony. Did you read both parts?
I loved it too Ladies! I commented, yes I did! LOL!
I did read both parts. I also tried to comment but it looks like it didn’t go through. I’ll keep trying!
JB I have a question for you…Do you know if my payroll check has been sent out yet? I have bills to pay :-p Thanks.
Hope everyone is doing OK & I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! Ill be back later its visiting time..
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ahh..yes Addie, I heard we’re getting a raise since the acquittal
JB
That was a very good article. Thanks for the link. I really appreciated this part…
That was my thoughts, exactly, when I heard George say that on national TV. How could a father do that, regardless of whether he believed her guilty or not? It’s as if he wanted the world to hate her and kill her for him. It would be one thing to say it in private, to his wife, his therapist…but quite another to say it to the whole world, under these circumstances.
What a great article. I’m wondering if she is the lady that had the radio show that had LP on it that some of us listened to. She is very smart. The haters still aren’t getting it though. Only they can be right. Sickening.
Morning all. It seems the Casey Anthony free speech zone, assigned into law by Judge Perry, is still in use and being used to arrest citizens that are part of the Occupy Orlando group. They were there waiting for the trial of one of their members yesterday about 1am. LE told them they have to leave and come back in the morning, even though it was morning, and even though there are no signs or ordinance stating that this public property is closed like a park might be. They said they could move to the side walk which all but two did. They would rather they be where they could get them for obstructing pedestrian traffic, which would actually give them a right to arrest. They arrested the 2, carrying the guy face down, by his cuffed arms and feet. That must have hurt. The outcome of the trial they were waiting for, was not guilty of trespassing, guilty of a city code because the park had hours posted. 30 more are awaiting trial. Keep the tax money flowing. Does Florida have a balanced budget law? I highly doubt it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwC5NrkiRbY&feature=youtu.be
Good Morning all!
Just wondered if you all had seen this yet?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/02/casey-anthony-no-story-draws-such-fierce-reader-comments.html
I’m wondering exactly WHEN it was that the OS decided to begin to enforce its TOS. Ironically, it hasn’t been that long ago when I sent a letter in which I not only cut and pasted their own TOS, but I also highlighted the very terms that were being violated. For their own convenience, I added a link to their TOS, just so they could be certain that I hadn’t altered any wording. Furthermore, I offered to let their parent company see the multitudes of screen shots in my possession of the hundreds of comments which were threatening in nature, cruel, vile, or which contained people’s real names. I might have mentioned some names of some folks I’ve been working with to track this cyber bullying….but I just don’t remember…..*wink*
Anyway…..I find this article laughable in light of what goes on over there. It’s nice that they published it. But now we shall see if, indeed, they choose to do the right thing…..or if the rope they’ve woven for themselves is, in fact, going to be the one they hang themselves with.
They can’t say I didn’t warn them.
Have a good day all!
Just as we find it hard to believe that a father would throw his own daughter under the bus on national tv, we also find it hard to believe that fathers beat the living carp out of their children. It happens everyday and it does not surprise me, it only confirms that he is not to be trusted. IMO
That article is laughable, Omar. Especially considering the comments below it!
Zub: I have been calling hal out a lot on the end of the articles in the kc section. GOBO has as well. I suppose he feels he needs to explain himself for the censorship. Note he points the finger at John Cuttin and Hal could never take responsibility for his own actions. He is selectively making all of his threads anti casey. He is generating the hate. It is the hate that builds his hits and therefore he can sell to advertisers. I doubt the advertisers have any clue what is going on. They probably don’t care anyway as long as he generates the hits. His loyal followers are encouraging him to censor. There are about 15 of them.
Oops, i meant OMAR
Sam….I completely agree. TOTALLY laughable.
What they mean by censoring comments that contain offensive languae is that they will censor or stop any comments that contain fact, truth, common sense or logic of any sort. And any comment that even HINTS at the fact that the trial is over, Casey was found not guilty, or that Baez is to be commended for doing a good job is offensive to HAL and his band of uglies, and is therefore blocked, banned or removed post haste.
Eagle, his loyal followers are the very ones who should be censored!!
Methinks maybe the OS got themselves into hot water with the comments on their Casey Anthony articles and blogs. Usually if I Googled OS the link to their website would come up and “Casey Anthony” was a sub-category, but not anymore. Also I check some of the regular articles related to the case and there is now no way to comment on them or read old comments. And now they have come out with this article on Hal’s blog about the TOS etc. Something smells fishy, at least to me.
A couple of weeks ago when the videos and pics surfaced, someone posted the name and contact information of KC’s probation officer in their comment. Not sure how long that post was up but I am willing to bet the officer was flooded with letters and emails from the foaming-at-the-mouth haters demanding that KC be returned to jail for what they (the haters) thought was an obvious violation of her probation. Maybe somebody told the OS to keep a better eye on what was being posted and put some new measures in place to keep control. JMO, though.
Hello all! Have been MIA for a few days. Missed you. Going to catch up. Noni
HI NONI!!! Glad you’re back. We missed you too. It’s been really quiet here the past couple of days.
YD-went and read the article at Hals site. Love that the person who was explaining how to handle ugly posts said “report them with the abuse button” and also stated that was why so many abusive posts were missed because people don’t use that option. Well……there IS NO ABUSE OPTION ON HAL’S SITE! LOL, there is one on the regular comment area on the OS site but I guess Hal doesn’t have to have one? Wow!
Happy Super Bowl Eve Everybody!
Omar, the article left up thread was superb. I think the writer Cathy was right on target..too bad she had to endure such disrespectful comments. I don’t know why some people cannot just disagree without getting personal. Hmm..which takes me to the Orlando Sentinental bloggers. I’m happy to see the editors are finally taking notice. The Orlando Sentinel is not a typical personal blog, in essence it was poor representation of their city. A quick glance at the comments there, it’s easy to see that they exploited the hate for Casey Anthony. If I were in business, in need of advertising, I’m not too sure I’d want to be associated with OS. The trial is almost 7 months old, if people haven’t come to terms with the outcome by now, perhaps they need to get some therapy.
Oh and Omar..lol, I’m SURE your letter was well written, concise and to the point, proving once again that the pen is mightier than the sword and taking it the top was something that definitely needed to be done. Kudos to you! I’m sure you made an impact, not that they’d admit it though..lol
Yellow Dog,
I remember reading that comment and I thought it could cause a problem. Hmm.. you might be right.. like the straw that broke the camel’s back. That’s what I’m thinking.
Zuben,
I was getting physically sick watching that video.
A group of Occupiers decided to Occupy the “Free Speech” box in front of the courthouse and await the continuance of the trial.
Isn’t it astounding that Orange County, Orlando Florida would be so indifferent to this group of people but allowed and “accommodated” by a Fifth Circuit judge for the Casey Anthony protesters!!
What’s up with that???
I did a lil research on john cutter and it does not look like he pays much attention to the kc case. On Google, he has post all the way back to july. He does not mention the case once. I think he is just putting his trust in Hal.
JB,
About what happened with att – I signed up for uverse this june. I ws offered a package similar to yours and the sales rep did do a credit check with my soc# over his cell phone. Everything was on the level and I’m happy with the service. However, i knew the sales reps were around, because my neighborhood is considered rural, and att had installed their service to which we were all waiting. Point is i knew it wasn’t a crazy, or scam artist because we had been waiting for att to provide this service to our neighborhood. I wonder if that was the case in your neighborhood, or if it was someone impersonating them? Understand your concern!!!
JB – Wouldn’t it be funny if they released KC from probation early because some moron posted the probation officer’s contact info and it created havoc in the office? Casey would be set free early all because a rabid hater got cocky and tried to get KC in trouble. The irony would be rich, don’t you agree?
I can’t think of a reason why they shouldn’t release her early if that is what they normally do with good behavior.
Yellow Dog,
We can wish, can’t we? I’m sure the PO has better things to do with her busy schedule than keep up with stupid reports about Casey. And YES, the irony would be very rich…just more of that Karma going Casey’s way. I hope people are starting to catch on.
Thanks sonja,
I felt a little better the next day because I saw him again in the neighborhood so I guess he was the real deal. My dad was a victim of identity theft 3 years ago so I’m very protective with my SS#. Someone took him for about $10,000. My father, being old school always paying his bills was probably too embarrassed to tell me or my brother so he was actually making payments on this credit card that he didn’t sign up for. Anyway, the matter is straightened out now but it wasn’t easy. It’s harder to prove you’re not who you are than prove you’re somebody else. Does that make sense? lol
I would love to see her released early! Why shouldn’t she be. The state is almost paid back and she has done nothing to violate he probation. I see no reason why she shouldnt be!
Yes that does make sense and I did ask questions to the sales rep when he asked for my soc# because it is a bit forward of them to ask us for that anyway!
From what I’ve read on the web (?) it sounds like KC is almost paid up on her fines & costs assoiciated with her check convictions. Once that is done they will release her from probation (It’s all about the $). The other bill they fabricated for investigative costs has NO barring on her current probation & can’t be enforced except through civil action (as far as I know).
Plus she’s in Florida so she can ignore it (just like OJ did). Which is why he moved to Florida.
JB Who are you rooting for in the Super Bowl? I’m rooting for the GIANTS. I love those Manning boys. (including their father)
Is anybody else watching the NFL Honors on NBC?
Hi Firefly,
I slummed over there to Hal’s to see if they even understood what TOS means and it didn’t look too promising..anyway, I read your comment there too.
You said;
There is no way Caylee was in that spot the entire time! It was searched over and over.Yes SOMEONE put Caylee in that swamp but who?If she was there the whole time LE, the searchers and Tim are idiots! How do you search an area miss that or not notice the smell. If she was even there the whole time (which I doubt) how can anyone say where the tape was she was supposedly there for months! Give me a break! I guarantee after all these appeals and court cases are ove there will be interviews and book deals.
FWIW I have 2 beatiful children!
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Excellent point!
I commend you for trying to engage those at Hal’s into a valid discussion. It’s really too bad that no one there could give you a good answer. Sez, the supposed KNOW-it-all of the group points you to Val’s. .. lol Instead of explaining herself in her own words..she has to depend on something someone else said. Hmm…And there lies the problem. They believe everything they read as long as it supports the stupid chloroform theory. As we ALL know now.. “chloroform” was searched once on the Anthony computer NOT 84 times. That was the State being sneaky.
As for Suburban, well that’s just a no-brainer. There’s no way in the world a body was in those woods when Miller and all the other idiots searched.
BTW, if you decide to register there to comment, if I were you, I would report to Hal that being called or referred to as a babykiller troll is name calling. Geez… Are these people really that stupid.
Hi Lisa,
Yes, I plan on watching the Super Bowl but don’t know who I really want to win. It’s like I want Eli to win but then I still feel bad for Tom Brady and the Patriots.
IIRC, that year the Patriots played in the Super Bowl, they were undefeated until they played the Giants in the Super Bowl who were the underdogs. It was heartbreaking for a lot of ppl.
So I’m really undecided, but it would be cool if Archie’s son won another SB… IDK but I think the Giants are hot right now and they just might pull off again.
It should be a really good game.
Happy Super Bowl Sunday everybody! If anyone is looking for something to watch before the big game, tune into the Puppy Bowl on the Animal Planet channel. It is the Eighth annual Puppy Bowl and is hilarious. It’s a bunch of 11-15 week old puppies and puppy toys on a football like field. There is a referee, kitten cheerleaders, a couple of pigs, a rooster and more. Penalties can be issued for “illegal use of paws” and “unpuppy like conduct.” There is even a website where you can view videos of MVPs and highlights from past Puppy Bowls including the one year they had a “streaker” on the field. Check it out for a lot of laughs.
I think the show airs at 3 pm eastern time. Check the listings in your area.
Thanks JB! Yes all they were giving me were links to read. Like I havent seen them all before. Sometimes I get get and like to rile their feathers up lol. It is very easy to do. I see the article didn’t change much. They were still bashing people like always. Heck they were even bashing each other. They are supposedly friends. It was quit entertaining. I love how they say they ignore the “trolls” but they alway have something to say when you post something.
Have to say GO GIANTS. Love those Mannings! Hope Peyton plays next year!
Is MEME that post at the OS someone from here? I just love him or her! She is always giving the he11 lol
Excellent piece! Kudos!
I did not know about the YouTube “take a vote” drama! WOW! Talk about targeting an innocent person in the media! Who wouldn’t be traumatized by this garbage? If Tim can prove there was a contractual agreement, I agree, go for who the agreement is with. However, a “good by” and “find her” on the way out the door is not a contract with Casey. I don’t know if Cindy’s phone call created a contract or not. I used to like Tim but when he crawled down with the likes of Grace and FOX, I changed my position on him personally.
Firefly….you are very brave at hungry hals
….they just can’t wait for a justice lovers to pop in to feed on…..I LOVE seeing you hold your own! I can’t stand the ignorance any longer–plus hal unfairly banned me because I posted several facts. But after his TOS story, I need to make time to write his boss man! LOL. Even his TOS story is full of lies and violations!!! But, he is NOT a journalist, so what can we expect?
I think the OS/HLNers have been put on notice by Mr Mason…..the main site there has been pretty quite and no one read hals “blog”, I have found, except for hal and his 3 stooges with identity issues. I’ll bet THIS site gets LOTS of hits from them.
BTW….is the Super Bowl really today? It’s the only day I like to go golfing
Be well all!
LOL, Firefly….it’s like watching the republicans turn on each other! Agreed!!!
Gonna watch the Superbowl tonight all by my lonesome. I hate my family missing stuff to sit up here with me so I told them to invite some friends and have a lil Superbowl partay at home. Even though I was born & raised in NY, I GOTTA root for the Patriots! My daddy was a fan as long as I can remember and he would be sooo proud to watch them play in the Superbowl! Goo Patriots!!
Addie…you don’t have to watch it ALL alone…we can chat during it on here! You’re a good person, thinking of your family instead of yourself. I bet they can’t wait til you get home!
Thanks Jill
I wish I WAS home with them! Ive turned into a night owl this hospital stay. Usually in bed by 9pm and up between 4:30&5am…not anymore lol
I need to tell ya about my fieldtrip soon..1st thing that was said is “idk what your talking about you liar” and I came prepared and reminded lmao! Was DEFINITELY PRICELESS!!
Oh I can’t wait to hear details of your field trip…so you actually talked to her? Love it!! Like I said I would have loved to be there with you!!
Can’t believe the super bowl is being played just 45 minutes down the road! Proud of the show we Hoosiers are putting on!
Have you guys heard about Josh Powell, Susan’s husband? He blew up the house today with his two young son sinside. (Crying)
Yellow Dog
February 4, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I think you’re correct.
addie
February 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Addie girlfriend, you gave us a fright but man am I proud of you! You are so BRAVE woman! LOL!
I can not wait for the juicy details .
Jill
February 5, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I saw where the girl posted on her FB about Addie! She was piiiizzzzzzed! LMAO! ALthough she was threatening Addie and I became very concerned later when we didn’t hear from her right away
Hey Jill!
HollyG I just that about Josh Powell! They are saying it was intential! Those poor kids!
Can’t wait to hear about Addie’s field trip! Hope you feel better soon!
HGM…I saw that facebook post too. I was wondering if she was pissed about the fact that someone gave her a taste of her own medicine. You absolutely rock Addie!
What was the facebook post? I didn’t see it
I just saw that Holly and Firefly about Susan Powell’s husband. My goodness
it was right after the CPS brought them back.
I was just baffled. I can’t believe it.
There was nothing left of that house.
I’m sure Susan’s parents are in total shock, losing their daughter and now
grandbabies. How sad!!
I know Loly, I am such a mixture of raw emotions over it! If he wanted to die then I suppose that is his choice but he had NO RIGHT killing those boys! AArrrrr!
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Teen-claims-she-killed-dad-because-of-abuse/-/1735978/8567064/-/mrmrpnz/-/index.html
I know Holly, I just am baffled. WHY didn’t he leave them with his grandparents.
Did you see this? He didn’t expect ANYTHING to be left out of that house! DAMN!
Sent wrong one, Sorry! : /
This should be it! Look at the house!!! So so tragic!
At 4:00 listen to Josh’s Dad.
This guy is totally bazaar!
I hope that they keep investigating him.
Maybe he knows where Susan’s body is.
He is weird and WHY did they know Josh wasn’t
stable to keep the boys.
I think there’s a whole lot of answers with POWELL Sr.
I don’t know if this is an accurate report but it seems that with the total wreckage of the house Josh’s body has not yet been found?
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/witness-captures-photos-of-josh-powell-s-home-flames-after-explosion-photos
I really hate to feel this way , but…… this is ANOTHER fairly predictable outcome. This was Clearly a man that had the “If I can’t have them , No-one will” attitude about his children. He had just a few days prior been denied custody, and his young sons had just started to open up to social workers questions?
I have sometimes been angry at CPS’s involvement in cases where I feel that they are overstepping their bounds, But I sure wish that this case had been given more attention.
At 2 yrs and 4 years, those boys didn’t have a chance or a choice. The Grandparents were not a custody option, because Josh’s father was allegedly found with criminal child porn pictures on his hard drive.
I am increasingly alarmed by what lengths perps will go to, to cover up the original crime…..
JMHO
Here’s the link to the Puppy bowl
http://animal.discovery.com/tv/puppy-bowl/
Hello Everyone. What a somber evening..
Lolypop,
Thank you for the update on the Susan Powell story and the sad, sad ending to it all.
I’m horrified and angry at the same time.
I think Steven Powell, the father should be heavily interrogated by LE. I’m sure he knows what happened to Susan.
Because it’s so late, I cut and pasted the story so we could all read it here.
Here’s the link:
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2012/02/06/josh-powell-his-2-sons-die-in-a-double-murder-suicide/
I Agree JB,
Something bad wrong here with Powell’s Dad.
LE talk like it’s over.
I think his Dad know’s where she is.
Hello all! Hope everyone is doing well or better, at least.
I am watching something on TV right now and I wanted to share. It is way off the subject (still catching up lol) But it is just a lil tidbit I thought I should share.
A woman was talking about how she was neglected and abused as a child by her mother and her man and part of her description of the conditions of the house included a kitchen sink was so full of old food and dirty dishes that there were actually maggots in the sink…. Again, another episode of maggot activity where no dead body had ever been.
That bit about all evidence being unsealed has to be BS. As you all have mentioned, there were the 2000+ photos that made GA “sick to his stomach”— “you can even ask Lee” lol
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Lee is the one who asked or brought up the idea that the Camera/Video of Caylee at nursing home may have had the date tampered w/– again, this is “according to the words of GA”.
Lee was def the most computer savvy of the entire family. He was an IT man! He was also a bit of a “geek” kind of weird, a “Star Wars” fanatic– Or was he a “Trekkie”? IMO only, he def had hacker tendencies and knowledge of how to do so. This is just based on his “type” and the fact that he is/was an IT man. Not to mention the fact that he was the last person to have access to Cindy/Casey’s laptop that Casey had been lugging around w/her and left at Tony’s that last night she was there and found by Ma and Amy. Coincidentally, he (Lee) goes over to Tony’s and “tries to turn the laptop on, but notices that the screen had gone completely blue/blank. Like someone had wiped the hard drive”, he said. LMAO, whether the drive was wiped to help or hinder Casey, it sure as doo doo was not wiped by Miss Casey— IMO. She had no knowledge that her world was about to come crumbling down to think ahead like that. Again— IMO.
So the question comes down to, was it Tony or Lee who tried to erase the laptop’s hard drive? And why would either of them have the desire or need to do so? Could it have been the photos they were worried about? WHY?
The photos that were sealed, seem to have been of Casey, herself in “compromising postions” as GA said in the LE interview. He said his daughter was involved in some “bad stuff” and that she was not the Casey that he knew. So it seems to me that these were possibly pornographic or sexually explicit photos of Casey that we have yet to see and hopefully never will. People tried so hard to claim that these photos were of CAYLEE in child porn, that is not what G described them as. In the back of my mind, when I first read that transcript, I really wondered if Casey was involved in the sex industry—- OR did GA have her involved in some sick stuff? For all we know he was the photographer who took those mysterious lewd photos of his daughter… OR LEE. Lee was rumored (not sure if true) to have had an “Escorting for Sporting Events” service going on for a short while. It was claimed to have had a web-site even but it disappeared. I did not catch this soon enough to see if it was legit. But if it was, could Casey have been doing some “work” for Lee?
JST
Hi Cat,
I believe its the Blow Fly that is one of the first insects found on a corpse but they breed in garbage and rotting food like a sink of dirty dishes.
Unfortunately, I’ve seen maggots in a dumpster before too, but no body. Here’s a link that explains flies.
http://www.amentsoc.org/insects/insects-and-man/forensic-entomology.html
Cat, you said snipped:
Cat, that is IMO too. Hmm.. you brought up another good point. “Could Casey have been doing some work for Lee??”
Honestly, at the onset in 2008, I had considered Casey was a working girl but what threw me off of that theory was “no pimp”. In 2008, most girls knew it was dangerous to work alone in that business BUT now I feel differently since learning about the NJ serial killer and how these girls simply put ads on Craigs List or a website.
Have you seen the video of Lee and TL? The one set up by LE to see if Lee knew anything.. well, Lee said a few interesting things.
One, he thought KC had a bank acct with the Bank of America and possibly had $5,000. Two, it seems that one of TL’s drug connections was ripped off for about $5,000 worth of product. When he brought this up to TL, TL had no comment. He didn’t confirm or deny this happened. I tend to believe something was stolen from his connection and LE knew alot about TL. There’s part of his interview that has been redacted. Also I believe this was why TL gladly accepted the task to set up Lee.
Cat, I’d like to look further into this. If you have the link to this transcript, I’d love for you to post it here.
In the meantime, I’ll post the Lee/TL videos.
(BTW, I wonder if LE checked Craigs List?)
Yeah its kind of funny because Lee thought Le would wire him to meet with tony.
I will never forget the day Lee testified in court and GA followed him right out ther door. How sick it is to have witnesses in the audience. Shame on you judge.
What does everyone think of that radar online story? do you think it is true?
Hi Eagle,
lol, oh really? So Lee wanted LE to wire him up to meet with Tony? haha.. I never knew that.
Hey, I was all for wiring up people, just not to investigate Lee. I would have much preferred to know what CA & GA were up to. And yes I remember how the Ant’s argued to be allowed in the courtroom, and WON!! That was just one of Judge Perry’s ridiculous rulings.
Orange County wanted Casey so badly that they’d stoop to anything even lie about chloroform searches.
I still can’t believe that wanna-be lying Ashton wasn’t disbarred for this but then again, he probably was fired and just given an opportunity to “RETIRE”. God only knows, Orange County didn’t want Ashton blabbing his mouth with all he knew about Judges, prosecutors & coworkers if he decided to fight for his job in a federal courtroom. Haha! Now that would be a trial PERFECT for InSession, no doubt.
Cat, I was looking for the part about the bank acct..but couldn’t find it. I know I have it somewhere on this site..lol Anyway, this is what I found.
Part 3 – Lee talks about how he found the laptop crashed when he picked it up from Tony’s.
Part 12 – Note, when Lee talks about Casey and George, he says they tend to be more selfish and lie to make things better for themselves. How profound! Huh..lol
Lee I “Think” was on damage control, starting by deleting whatever he could from the laptop
erasing communication between Casey and her parent(s)? Emails were deleted and couldnt be retrieved. As far as the video tape of Caylee at papa’s nursing home? I never thought it was taped on June 15th….
Because of the actions of the grandparents etc, It’s apparent to me that they have always known what happened to CAylee. I never saw Cindy Anthony break down after Caylee was found in Dec, as if she had already moarned her. So, no, I dont believe it was a hit on Caylee due to Casey’s actions, maybe her father’s debts etc, but I doubt Casey’s but, one never knows….IMOO
IF there are over 2000 photos that were found on the Anthony’s computer and if they were of Casey, it could’ve been possibly she took them herself with a webcam….Remember Anthony Weiner the US sentor from NY? So, if Casey did have compromising photos of herself, she probably sent them out to someone. We havent heard anything about that from anyone. As you know i’m sure if that opportunity was there of someone making a few bucks on her photos i’m sure they would’ve done it by now. So , my personal opinion is, they found some on GA, that is why he got sick……..Just sayin…
Excuse the typos ppl,,…..
And besides, Caylee was found the same way GA disposed of the family pets…..So, if CAylee’s demise was linked to someone else, then it’s huge coincidence….
Also,
CAsey had access to Cindy’s accounts and also her laptop during that month. Cindy could’ve closed her accounts, went to look for Caylee and bring her home, and demand her laptop to be
brought back.
Enough said. The woman is full of Chit…IMOO
Morning all! Im home! Just read this about the Casey Anthony Photos and Rob Hensley..interesting. These ppl are NUTTERS! Have a great day! Ill BBL
http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2012/02/casey-anthony-photos-and-rob-hensley.html?spref=tw
GUESS WHO?!!!! LMAO, nope not dead or in jail, lol
hugs all, gonna try and check up to see what you all have been up to! 
Missed ya! Hugs Mimi
How do we know for sure that there were even that many photos? Maybe LE lied to GA and showed him some photos she took for a boyfriend and were stored on the computer but never given to him? Maybe a boyfriend took them of her with her camera and she wouldn’t let him keep them? That’s a pretty common thing to do these days.
We don’t know how many, what they were of, what they were taken for or anything else. LE lies when they think it will benefit them. Why would they show photos like that to GA anyway? Were they trying to find out if HE took them? It had to have been to get him to say SOMETHING they though he would know, right? He was the only one they did that to. Maybe he DID take them and Casey didn’t even know what LE did with them.
I hope we never find out. That was Casey’s business and since they weren’t connected to this case (obviously or they would have revealed them or found a way to use them in the trial) they aren’t anyone’s business! If they were sexy shots a boyfriend would take why would GA get sick? Did he get sick when he stared at her vagina when she was having the baby? Maybe his “over reaction” said it all and it certainly wouldn’t have benefitted the prosecution if it came out GA took them would it?
I hope Casey tells it ALL when her book finally comes out! Oh that’s right, GA would sue her wouldn’t he? Maybe she will be able to bring charges against him when the rest of this probation and fines are paid and get some justice for what GA did – if he did this to her (have to put that in here to cover myself, right?). Can’t wait to see what happens when she is finally free of all this BS with the judicial system/courts!
As always these are just my thoughts and assumptions.
Noni,
I agree KC needs to set the record straight, when she’s ready to. I think it’ll be healing
and will help her move on. Then press the charges. She needs to do it for Caylee…..
Well hello MImi,
Glad your here, not dead, oh I don’t know what I would have done in that situation, but
if you were in jail, I would have come and retrieved you! LOL
Or we could have sit in there together and told stories. : )
MIssed you too! Hope everything is good. : )
Hello Addie, it sure is good to see you back.
I SURE hope that everything is going good for you.
You’ve been missed for a long time.
Big hug that you’re lots better. : )
Hi Addie,
You’re so right, “Nutters” exactly! When are these ppl going to stop the BS about Casey and her pictures?? And this “private detective”?? Gee, he needs to get a clue, nobody gives a rat’s behind. LOL.. But thanks for keeping us informed because I like laughing at these fools.
Anyone , Anyone? LOL,,,,
I need some info on that convicted felon that was linked to George Anthony. Does anyone remember this? Remember he stepped forward and gave some information about George and it was swept under the rug? Once again!
If anyone remembers this and has any info plz post,,,,,
Holly? : )
TIA
I think his name is Vasco Thompson…
Yes. Vasco We had some addresses for him, at-home companies, etc
Need anything specific?
Is their public cell phone records of GA linking him to this guy?
GCG,
Didn’t they say there were records, but George and Vasco both denied knowing each other. So I guess they believed him this time?????
Loly, I believe there is records, but cannot locate them,,,,,
I am curious to know just how many times that number was called,,,,
I do remember their lawyer brushing it under the rug so to speak, claiming
it was the wrong number??
http://news.lalate.com/2011/06/15/vasco-thompson-addition-fumes-george-anthony/
Does this help? I know they puffed that off real quick!!
Like almost everything else.
Why would they both be so defense about it?
GCG The records are in docs under Cindy Anthony’s phone records. They had 3 connecting calls IIRC I’ll try to get the info.
Holly, ty my friend, i’ll go look,,,,,
Loly, great!! TY
WTF! George had a job with a lexus car dealership?? Thought he worked security,,,,,LOL
Said it was July 14th he had that job…Christmas, cant keep up with all the so called jobs he had during that time
I know. I kept saying he worked at Lexus and peeps kept saying “No he didn’t” I couldn’t figure it out.
They didn’t get Vasco T’s records IMO. They are looking at George’s records. The number for not-Vasco (see my posts above) is 407-4*5-3082. The first contact was George calling this number on July 9, 2008 when he had to drive down to (IIRC) Celebration, FL for his brand-new job. Then George texted the number July 14 at 10:22 am, when IIRC he was supposed to be travelling again to Celebration and gave his employer some story about a traffic problem and instead stayed in Orlando–IMO to try to figure out WTF Casey was doing. George received a short (12-character) response text from this number at 1:32 pm, and responded again by text at 2:49 pm. The number then called George July 19 at 11:08 am–probably George’s work trying to figure out when and if he would be returning to his job–and texted him on July 24 at 5:32 pm.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140350
I just found some old emails I was exchanging with another WS’er on this subject. Apparently I determined that Vasco T’s true number was 407-2*6-3082 instead of 407-4*5-3082. (Yes, the stars stand for the same # lol.) But at some point his number got recorded in a public records database incorrectly and got mixed up with the other number.
BY AZ Lawyer
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140350&page=2
More of AZLawyers “Explainations” : George didn’t have the wrong number. He was really calling someone from his new job. But a couple of public records databases have the wrong number for Vasco T. It only takes one wrong entry in those databases, and then they multiply like rabbits.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140350&page=4
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/cindy_anthony_cell_phone_report_ocso.pdf
http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/files/caylee_anthony_files.html
I remember this from way back. That was all based on AZ’s opinion and she had to make a couple of assumptions to come to that opinion.
They didn’t get Vasco T’s records IMO. They are looking at George’s records. The number for not-Vasco (see my posts above) is 407-4*5-3082. The first contact was George calling this number on July 9, 2008 when he had to drive down to (IIRC) Celebration, FL for his brand-new job. Then George texted the number July 14 at 10:22 am, when IIRC he was supposed to be travelling again to Celebration and gave his employer some story about a traffic problem and instead stayed in Orlando–IMO to try to figure out WTF Casey was doing. George received a short (12-character) response text from this number at 1:32 pm, and responded again by text at 2:49 pm. The number then called George July 19 at 11:08 am–probably George’s work trying to figure out when and if he would be returning to his job–and texted him on July 24 at 5:32 pm. ”
http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/06/new-defense-witness-added-all-things.html
Yes, I remember but her posts do contain Vasco info. I never believed her assumptions either.
Times & dates of calls, etc phone numbers
Gosh, I am very interested in all of these phone records, but I am afraid they are not all available. I have always been suspect that when kc went out on Tony’s deck when her mother called, it was really her father. Why would she need to go out on the deck and talk everytime it was that ringtone. I really do think they may have conspired together to cover it up or at least kc was following instructions. I have always like AZ Lawyer, but did not always agree with her. She takes a lot of flak when she tells them like it is about legal issues. Sometimes she emails me and tells me when they are attacking her. lol
Hello everyone! How about a blast from the past!! I have definately been MIA for a while, but I faithfully check in, though I dont comment since my computer crashed, and I only had access on my phone. Some of you may recall, my hubby is military and we were just stationed in Colorado all the way from North Carolina, so alot of adjustments, and excuses, but IM BACK with a NEW COMPUTER and everything!! I am so excited I could just BUST!! I have so much to say I dont know where to begin, so just thought I would pick up where you all are with the discussions. But, before that, just wanted to say hi to all of the folks who have joined the Mission since I posted last, and a warm hello and missed u all sooooo much to all of you who go way way back:)
GCG- Hello, so good to see you. I just wanted to add about Vasco Thompson, maybe to help remind you about his “contribution to the chaos”. I guess It was reported that during the trial Vasco was a “last minute witness” the defense was trying to depose. As you said, his telephone number popped up a few times on George’s cell phone record history, and since he was a felon, and not sure if convicted of, but involved with kidnapping allegations. This of course raised eyebrows, so, naturally he was deposed.
Now I always found it interesting that it was swept under the rug too, and I have always felt that Casey’s trial was only the beginning. I hope, and do believe there is an ongoing investigation. Who knows, perhaps Thompson was deposed for an investigation, but everyone just assumed it was for Casey’s trial, maybe it wasn’t?
OHHHH My buddy KMiller! Hugs my dear friend! I have truly missed you! and our many conversations! Do ya still have my email? I still have your cell number lol, but dont know if its the same or not. So nice to see your name!
Hey all. Hey JB
I doubt LE ever checked craigslist. That was def going on for a while around that time. They had some type of “adult” category where people could basically “pimp” themselves or use it to “hook up” w/or “meet” other people. In fact, sometime back then, I was kind of getting to know this one chump (figured that out over time lol) and he even mentioned to me “did you know that there are Hoes on craigslist? And you can just call em/reply to ad and they’ll come over or you can go over there?” (WHAT??) lol.. Can we say “RED-FLAG”? LOL. But my point is that it was some kind of phenomenon def back around that time. I’m sure there were many more sites to conduct the same type of activity from and still are, but the police were so hyper-focused in the one direction that they probably failed to have that bell go off in their heads. There were some rumors, before, that some guy swore he had hooked-up w/Casey off of craigslist, or at least met up w/her that way… No one took him seriously but it has always kind of hovered in the back of my mind. The whole Lee Escort for Sporting Events biz and the craigslist claim could have been just another couple of many baseless rumors, but the possibilities have never fully left my mind. Remember when Cindy said that Casey had helped Lee work a Super Bowl Event? That could be another one of her lies (Cindy’s), but it could also have been true, maybe just not in the way we would assume. That one is def a mystery.
As for the 5000 that Casey supposedly had in a bank account and the 5000 that Lee heard TL’s roommate was ripped off for (I had read that he said something like 5000 worth of “product” was stolen from the apartment and that the thief entered through a window and exited through the door, BTW) The fact that the amounts were the same or similar is interesting, but do you think Casey managed to “flip” 5000 worth of “product”/drugs, on her own if she was involved in that “heist”? Hmmmm… This line of thought is taking me back to some other ideas of what may have been going on in Casey’s world….
Oh, and I will def look for the transcript I was talking about for ya and post it
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Jb hi really good to be able to actually join in the conversation, Iv missed talkin to you all so much!
You said snipped:
One, he thought KC had a bank acct with the Bank of America and possibly had $5,000. Two, it seems that one of TL’s drug connections was ripped off for about $5,000 worth of product. When he brought this up to TL, TL had no comment. He didn’t confirm or deny this happened. I tend to believe something was stolen from his connection and LE knew alot about TL. There’s part of his interview that has been redacted. Also I believe this was why TL gladly accepted the task to set up Lee.
Cat, I’d like to look further into this. If you have the link to this transcript, I’d love for you to post it here.
In the meantime, I’ll post the Lee/TL videos.
(BTW, I wonder if LE checked Craigs List?)
Gosh this case is still the enigma that it was a year ago, huh? A couple points you made here reminded me of a couple of things that were “thrown out there” a long time ago, that, at the time seemed a little too far fetced, but present day, maybe could be reconsidered.
Actually since I last posted I feel like ALOT of odd characters and happenings have been kinda of put on the back burner with all the stuff surfacing about George that many of you all suspected long before the trial and the release of psyche transcripts. I don’t doubt that George molested Casey, but, I have always and still do believe that there is SO much more to this story than what was presented by the defense at trial and has been admitted by Casey. I do think it is possible that George killed Caylee, but I can’t believe it is that simple.
See, this is why I couldnt post from my cell, I cant make it short, LOL! JB, do you or anyone else remember something being discussed about a really odd ad that a guy placed on craigs list stating that he was in fear for his and his girlfriends life. He said something about the owner of Fusion and I believe he was just wanting to get some evidence out there in case he was harmed. Well, somehow this add was linked to some pics of the owner, and Casey just so happened to be in one of the pics. In that discussion it was also brought up that Casey was possibly involved in some sort of prostitution or even sex slave ring, and before it was discovered that it was happening, craigslist was used to advertise the services. I wondered if this was the root of all the evil. Could this be THE link? Was Casey a sex slave? Was she forced to invlove Caylee? Is George part of it, could this be the source of all the wealthy friends and donors? Is this how Casey knew all these friends?
The other point reminded me of those letters sent to the judge from the inmate who claimed to have been in jail with an “oc’s finest” I think that is what the inmate refered to him as. Anyway, he claimed that this guy bragged that he killed Caylee because he had been in a hotel with Casey, and Casey stole a bag containing a large sum of money (maybe 5000)? He gave a pretty detailed account of the guys supposed story, and it was dismissed because the guy had a history of lieing and mental illness. I always thought the guy knew alot about the case especially since being in prison, his TV exposure was probably minimal. Plus, I know alot of people get convicted of crimes based on the testimonies of “jail house snitches”. I dont think it a stretch to assume most of them have a past of lieing and mental illness. Im not saying I believe the entire story, the guy might have wanted to take credit for the killing, since it was such a “who done it”, but perhaps he was TL’s drug connection?
If Casey had gotten herself into trouble with the likes of a drug/ sex trafficing ring, the possibilities are limitless up to and including why she did not trust police. Sex rings that invlove powerful people and alot of money are usually protected by corrupt law enforcement, funny Casey also had alot of police pals. Is that how George fits in? Was he a player in the sex ring? Did he turn his back on Casey in order to save his own skin and keep in good faith with the Big players?
I know this alot, I had alot built up, LOL!
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But what I don’t know is how people who create a pc virus can get pleasure out of it?? Unless they’re just evil.
Hi KMiller!
How are you? Nice to see you again. Wow, you brought some very interesting info here today. This is the first time I heard about Craigs List. Hmm… I found something awhile back that I haven’t shared here. I did show it to Zuben and she agreed that I shouldn’t post it but now that the trial is over..Maybe I will.
Do you know where I can find this information linking KC to Craigs list. lol..I’m interested. TIA
Oh and I’m glad you’re back and well armored. It makes you feel so violated when you get a pc virus.. I know.
JB~
Cat out Loud- hi not sure if we actually chatted before, but I feel like we have because I have read your posts regularly. Anyways looks like we were posting similar ideas at the same time, LOL!! I Think we are on the same track, theory-wise.
I never heard about the stolen “product”, thats a possibility too. Its been a while, so I gotta go back and re-read alot of stuff because Ive forgotten alot of the names of these “players”, but also the guy who was the first to visit Casey in jail also comes back to mind, do you remember some of the discussion we had over him? Some felt even though Casey acted as though she did not recognise him, he came as a threat, and was the roomate of a guy that delt in drugs, another associate of Casey, and was said to have once lived at Sawgrass.
I too cant shake the thought of ALL the possibilities, its just too much to disreguard, just a matter of tieing it all together, and figuring out who is guilty and who was just too scared to talk.
Hi MIMI!!!!!!!!! yes my number is the same, but a differe nt phone and i lost you and all my other contacts after my baby threw the old phone in the dogs water bowl, lol!! tough couple of months!
Anyway- yes my computer crashed, remember I tried posting from my kids play station? That was NOT feesible!! Thank goodness I was able to finally get another one!! Seriously, I was really nieve about online threats, but you best believe I bought some Iron clad protection this go-round. i was reading about some of the trouble alot of you all experienced as well, but i got a bug that actually took over as administrator, would not allow me to make changes, then started deleting my drivers, once it deleted the driver for my monitor i could hook it up to an outside monitor, or Tv, but still was a POS!! TERRIBLE experience, actually had me a little shaken, the level of meaness, ya know?
well anyway, im always on here a little later, im 2 hours earlier than i was in NC.
Ive missed you, i did see where you posted on my wall on FB, but have been too scared to even open FB on this PC, I gave my info out on there WAY too freely, I guess when I came to debating, I always liked to just be out there, none of that “anonamous” crap, but lesson learned:)
I heard about the product being stolen, been a while, didnt LE say something to the point to Tony L , we arent worried or something about the other. Like they knew of the drugs or something? I remb watching the jail video of the guy your talking about KM, but I didnt know about the discussions or remb about him. Yep Casey did act strange, like ummm why are you here?
KMiller!!!
I was just wondering about you today! While I was looking for the Vasco info I came across your posts and I had wondered where you where & if you were comming back. I’m glad you made it!
Tony and/or his friends were involved in peddling drugs. He told Lee it was true that his room mate was ripped off of $5,000 of “product.” Someone broke into his apartment through a window and left via the front door. Is this the favor, Tony owes OCSO? Is this why he was so cooperative?
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/tag/tony-lazarro/
http://www.wesh.com/r/24774693/detail.html
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Oh thank you, thank you HGM! I know I’ve posted the video a few times on my blog but didn’t know where to look. (((hugs))) You’re the best!
JB
Hey I just saw this on the OtherSide, there was apparently a new video released?
Casey Anthony: What does new video tell us?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on February, 9 2012 3:45 PM http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/
still trying to catch up on the latest …
Anthony Lazzaro undercover with Lee Anthony pt 1
Pt 1 they discuss the media and being chased & that Lee did not realize up until then that they would release the full video/audio from the jail visits (not much else).
http://youtu.be/qB8epk45N0Q Pt 2
Tony talks about Full Sail telling the media to leave him alone while on thier property!
“It’s my safe haven”. Lee talks about sneaking into the jail so that the media didn’t see him. Lee asks about using an employee exit to get away from the media, she says she can’t tell him no. Lee says media was even inside the caged employee area of the OCSO.
Lee talks about Trenton Duckett’s Dad Josh getting death threats early on in Trenton’s case. Lee talks about moving to a new apartment, TOny says he wishes he had a secret apartment. Talks about wanting to reach out to TonyL, “it’s been 2 weeks” We’re not any closer then we were 2 weeks ago. “I haven’t been able to talk to her for first 9-10 days”. Lee wasn’t able to talk to her from the 911 calls until 2 weeks later. No LE took his statements that first night, not interviewed. “If she’s going to open up to anybody I think it would be me”. Concerns about her attorney, both ignorant to the process. Lee is concerned she wants to get him info but they will be watched/recorded. “This is not Casey’s nature. This is not something she would willingly do. I don’t know if it was an accident or something..you know”
http://youtu.be/tG5iFHZe2QA Pt 3
Lee: “They put innocent people away all the time” Tony: “OH YEAH, um hmm” Fears people will stop looking for Caylee. Lee had it out with Yuri on 7/29/08. They had been getting tips on the phone. Dad & mom got 2 seperate conflicting tips, the plane & another tip/location. Lee asks if tipsters called the police? “No” Lee’s like “WTF?”. Makes changes so that tips go straight to LE. Lee asks Yuri “Are you not looking at more leads because you’ve made your mind up about something?” Argues about tips & LE. Family feels assured that LE will no be following any new tips but will only be looking to go after Casey. FBI (Savage?) told Lee they want to track Casey from Late May until July 15 2008. Work on a timeline. Trying to find out who’s she lying to? Who’s she telling the truth to? Lee: We’ve pretty much found out she didn’t even work, unless she did something for you (Lee laughs). Tony: “You know man, honestly, it wasn’t even like that” . (The audio must have been editted here because the audio cuts straight into them talking about the laptop. (5:20) Lee: “You..you remember that night, how we couldn’t even get on. Remember that?” TOny: “Yeah, that was, that was…I don’t know” Lee: “Wow, do you remember how recent that was?” Tony: “She was using it that day”
Lee throws his hands in the air. Tony: “She was using it that day”. Lee: I dont..I don’t know. I had that same thing happen to me on my computer like 2 years ago and the way it happened is that I downloaded a virus, supposedly. Tony: “Yeah” Lee: “Yeah so it’s shitty. It’s not even my sister’s laptop, IT’S MY MOM’S LAPTOP” . My Mom’s digital camera. My mom’s big purse, You know that big purse” Tony: “Geesh” Lee: “Yeah”.
Lee: “I’ve just got random stuff. Some of it’s new, some of it’s old. Remember when I mentioned to you check your bank statements?” TOny: “Um hm (yes)” Lee: “Ok, is there anything missing?” Tony: “No” Lee: “Ok, because there’s a check, I knowthere a four that she wrote that are Amy’s but there’s a 5th one and I can’t figure out who’s it’s for. TOny: “What bank account?” Lee: “I don’t know, I’m going off of reciepts, ok? The reciepts I have only say the form of payment & the amount. It doesn’t tell me routing numbers or any of the identifying information. I know the others a re Amy’s because I talked to her & they match the reciepts. So I brought this check up to Amy thinking it was hers. It was, I think, the 12th of July @ Winn Dixie. It’s like $92.86 or something. Close to $100. I don’t know who’s check that was. So, I’m wondering if she took it from somebody else. Tony: “I know it isn’t mine because I checked mine, I mean as soon as AMy told me” Both laugh “I mean I …” Lee; Well just double check, if it came from yours you probably ate it since it was groceries. ” Lee: “Had you ever met Jesse prior to….”
Tony: “Yeah, I had met him at Arden Villas like way back in the day for like 2 seconds.”
Lee: “Ok, ” Tony: “Cuz isn’t that where he lives?” Lee:”Yeah, I think so, I …IDk” Tony: “SHe says…she has an ex-BF and that they’re really good friends now. She brought him down & I met him, ” Lee; “Really? That was it?” Tony: “Yeah, I was doing some DJing out at the pool”. Lee: “What’s your..what was your impression of him?” Tony: “He seemed alright, just seemed kinda quiet like. He just said you know, Hello, what’s up” Lee: “Um hmmm” Tony: “He said he had to go back out” Lee; “Cuz I’m just worried about him in a way ..it’s..actually I talk to him every day too & it’s just some of the stuff he tells me & some of the stuff he doesn’t tell me or even the investigators kind of, it rubs me the wrong way. Like you know? He was engaged to my sister for over a year, like for awhile there my sister lead us to believe that he was Caylee’s father like, so there’s a lot of history there. Like, she’s always told my parents “jesse’s still trying to get with me but I’m not letting that happen” and Jesse always tells his parents that “Casey’s still trying to get with me & I’m not lettingthat happen. WHen in reality they’re still seeing each other on a semi-regular basis, at least a couple of times a month, Like, it’s like like it’s anything new, you know what I mean?” Tony: “Yeah, right. So it’s a reoccuring thing that they’re doing?” Lee: “Absolutely, absolutely”.
http://youtu.be/SIS7y1Itcqc Pt 4
Lee: “What I’ve found from talking to her ex-BFs and stuff is that he’s always the one who either right at the start or right at the end, he’s in the picture there. Like for whatever reason Casey will, you know, see Jesse and then like right around the time she’ll start with a new boyfriend for whatever length of time, a month, 2 months, a week, whatever at the end of that time she would end with that guy she’d be right back to Jesse again.
TOny: “Hmmmm”
Lee: “So it’s always making me think that..ok..you know..obviously she’s not over him if that’s the case, you know #1…
Tony: “Yeah, uh huh”
Lee: and #2 does he know that? Does he know what’s going on? Is he jealous?”
TOny: “I can’t say. I’m trying to always remember, she introduced me as…as this is my boyfriend at a time when we weren’t together. SO, I mean she was just meeting up to say what’s up, so”
Lee: Ok Was this? Cuz I know she was seeing Ricardo & I don’t know if I got this…I think I found this out after I talked to you that night She had been seeing Ricardo almost full time through April. She was still seeing him off & on a little bit through May. I don’t even know how far into May. I don’t even know when you guys started to, .. talkin but
Ricardo told me & has been verified by his roommate Troy that Casey & Caylee had spent the night with him on June the 9th. So…I know that was a monday night because originally that’s what she told police was the last time she had saw Caylee was the 9th which is worng, she actually saw her was on the 16th.
Tony: “Yeah she started… (Cross talk & Tony gets muffled out by Lee)
Lee: We found out because of the video & stuff from Father’s Day.
Tony: “Mmmm hmmm & that was what day again?”
Lee; “Well, Casey originally thought, well I know why Casey was thiking that because MY MOM WAS ADEMANT THAT THE LAST TIME SHE HAD SEEN CAYLEE WAS THE 8TH. I MEAN THAT WAS EVEN IN HER STATEMENT TO POLICE. So my sister & I heard everything that night too. My sister automatically said the 9th too. I mean she might have had good intentions by that but..um since then it has been proven that the whole video of Caylee you know reading her little book it was all taken on Father’s Day. Because my mom took Caylee to see my grandpa um..and that’as where the video was shot so we know for a fact that it was the 15th …we were a week off, you know what I mean?”
Tony: “Ok”
Lee: “So …So that was good cuz originally I thought he was lying and Ricardo’s like “No she was here” so I mean that was good..”
Tony: “Yeah”
Lee: “I any way, I guess (laughs) cuz it was like, you know, we at least know that Casey’s not, potentially not lying about that. But that will remain to be seen, we’ll find out about that but..”
(Video fades out and comes back)
Lee: “What I was trying to find out was you know, if she was still seeing Ricardo, maybe not on a regular basis but at least that night of the 9th (TOtally platonic) I’m wondering if she was still seeing Jesse too (Jeez Lee! et tu Brutus?)
Tony: She might have been, I don’t know…I..I don’t know. Like, she didn;t start staying at my place until later that month.”
Lee: “Ok”
Tony: “Like every…everyday, you knowwhat I’m saying?”
Lee: “Well, the reciepts that we have …help me with this…the reciepts that we have start around the 22nd or 28th of June which is ..actually it’s a week out.”
Tony: “Ok”
Lee: “This is what I’m able to figure out, remember the 27th is when uh..um..the car was at Amscot”
TOny: “Right”
Lee: ” That Friday”
TOny: “Yeah because that was when I had to pick her up”
Lee: “through uh…Amy told me that she got a text from Casey on the 20th that said..that’s when my sister ran out of gas the other time. Remember when you guys went to the house & my sister took out the gas cans and all that?”
Tony: “Right”
Lee: ” Well, Amy said she got a text message from her on that day tlaking about “this is shitty I ran out of gas or something like that (Tony agrees) Then actually on the 27th she texts and says “What’s the chances of running out of gas two weeks in a row on a Friday” So that’s how I know (it was a Friday). But what I’m saying is was she staying with you then? Or before? Because I’m just wondering if shewas with Jesse or was she with Ricardo or whomever else I’m wondering if they’re just not saying that you know Caylee was there or whatever.
Tony: “I’ll tell you what I’m thinking & I even told the cops this, um..I had hip-hop showcase on the 13th and we went to the Mall of the Millenia either the 11th or the 12th, probably the 12th , Thursday because we usually go out the day before promoting. SO I took them to the cheesecake factory at Millenia & that was, that was basically it. We left, she dropped me off & I had to go to class. I had class at 9:00 (pm) SO I mean I went to class and that was it after that. I remember during this week that she woulddrop by and say hello stuff like that because I was really busy that week. It wasn’t until I picked her up from the Amscot that she started staying over. I can’t account for her before that.”
Lee: “Well, that makes sense too because that’s when she started saving her reciepts was the 27th or the 28th. Like she’s got a reciept from JC Penny’s on the 27th, A reciept from I think also JC Penny’s on the 28th, the 30th she’s got a few & like then it’s like everyday. SO for whatever reason, after she started staying at your house she started saving all of her reciepts you know, for all that time. So, um..that’s what didn’t make sense to me..ibut now makes sense, if she wasn’t staying full time with you until around that time hen for whatever reason she saved those reciepts but If she was saving reciepts for the other time too then where was she staying? If with Jesse or Ricardo then maybe they have other reciepts & other stuff that will help, will help me figure it all out. Ricardo is still syaingthat the last time he saw Caylee was around that time, Jesse’s not saying a damned thing, ”
Tony: “Really?”
Lee; “Yeah, like he’s saying like, I think i heard Caylee in the background on a phone call on the 24th, but um…like, it just doesn’t ..it doesn’t jive. Like it doesn’t it just doesn’t make sense to me. So, actually, I like Jesse, I like RIcardo um but..IDK, The cops have even said the same thing to me too they’re just like “Listen, you know, Ricardo, he seems like a very nice guy but the problem is he’s got this…he’s got a um..he’s got um, a NARCOTICS RECORD. So, they’re like “We don’t know, you know. We’re going off of his word and everything that he’s been syaing has been good but “. He’s like “IDK but we can’t scratch him off yet. Just to let you know “. ANd then when they get to Jesse he’s got that um, police officer background um, but he was let go and stuff like that for kind of being, you know, a hot-head and stuff like that, they pretty much made him quit. That added with the looong history he has with my sister, you know, there’s plenty of opportunity or motive in there if…
TOny: “Right, right. Do the cops know this? Like..”
Lee: “These are the things we are piecing together as we go in and sit down, they have, you know, what they questioned Jesse on, what they questioned everybody on & then they’ll pull in somebody else like me, my mom, or and we’ll be able to say “This is what we know about him, & this is what we know about her, so I mean..right now…& that was just today, so I think right now they’re starting to think a little more outside the box on, ok, what if Casey really was, you know, threatened or you know, something like that but at the same time all we’re trying to figure out is where exactly did,…if Casey’s wrong on the 16th or not telling them the right thing, when did it happen?”
TOny:” Right”
Lee: “So, ” (End of video)
Sierra gives her impressions on the Jesse hearing someone/something in the background. SHe mentions that during the Greta interview in August that the Anthony’s cat got on the dining table. She believes that Jesse hear Casey tell the cat to “Get off of the table” aand that the cat might have made some noise. I think it’s very plausible.
http://youtu.be/9Wx97FTSqdU Pt 5
Tony: ” So that’s what I’ve been tryingto figure out…after the fact that your mom had the girl.. WHich was on the 15th”
Lee: “Right! Now let me see…my dad saw them about 11:45, about 15 minutes before he goes to work. He goes to work, he leaves like at NOON . So, that was the last time anybody’s seen Caylee. My dad’s..
(Sierra breaks in: “He leaves for work at NOON? I thought that he said he saw them at 12:50 PM while watching the Food Network Channel. I could be wrong but I thought I would just put that in there. “)
Lee: ” My dad saw Casey sometime between the time you guys came & got the gas cans , I think that was on the 20th, right? She came & got the gas cans I should say, on the 20th & the car on the 27th because mydad remembers, it was one of these, it was either Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday of that week that my sister came in, grabbed a change of clothes, driving the Sunfire, um and on the way back out my dad knew that she had the gas cans and INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY CONFRONTING HER ABOUT IT HE JUST KIND OF FOLLOWED HER OUT, UM AND THAT’S WHEN MY SISTER KNEW WHAT HE WAS COMMING FOR AND SHE OPENED UP THE TRUNK and said “Here, here’s your FN gas cans (Lee laughs) . I mean this is the story from my dad, I’M PRETTY SURE HE WAS BEING A DICK TO HER BUT ..but my point is I know my dad at least saw Casey sometime that week, he’s trying to remember what day.. I don’t know how he’s gonna remember that but um so I mean I know he saw Casey but it’s little things like that like “Ok, but where’s Caylee at in the meantime?”
TOny: “Right”
Lee: “Like I know you said the same thing, you know, that if Casey claims she’s at work or out at the store we have these reciepts for it…”
TOny: ” Um hmmm”
Lee: “The kid’s obviously not staying with you at that time & we know about the night she was at Ricardo’s then where is she that other…so now this is even longer cuz I was thinking that she was staying more full time with you earlier in that week around the time of the gas cans”
TOny: “No, WHen I picked her up, she stayed over that night>”
Lee: “Ok”
Tony: “Cuz she, cuz she left early that morning, uh..to go to the house. Well, she, she said she went to the house.”
Lee: “Ok”
Tony: ” I don’t remember how long she was gone, just that she had called me and said she had broken down at the Amscot over on the corner, the corner place & that she needed somebody to pick her up. So, I just don’t know.”
Lee; “I’ve got like a week and a half where she was staying with somebody cuz the last night, the last tiem she stayed at the house was the 15th of June, at my mom’s house so if she wasn’t staying with you full time atthat time, that’s a lot of FN time & Casey’s even said what she’s saying about, um you know, the babysitter and all of this stuff she’s saying that “Ok, when I went back to get Caylee, on the 16th, that um when they weren’t there that she like kind of did like a stake-out for lack of a better term..”
Tony: “Alright”
Lee: ” Just to um figure out if they were going to come back or whatever so…”
Tony: “So she says that she was staking out around this time?”
Lee: “Now, she’s told me since then that she only did that in the daytime. So the wierd stuff that’s come up though is, um, I have her phone records. Now, I went through her phone records for the 16th & 17th ..I don’t remember which day, I think it was the 17th, THAT SHE HAD CALLED LIKE 4 PIZZA PLACES like at Midnight, around 1 am, when I asked her this…the reason I’m focused on this pizza place thing was what they found in the back of the trunk of my sister’s car that might have been the origin of that nasty smell was, it was pizza.
Tony: “Right”
Lee; ” It was old pizza in you know, like a publix trash bag. I mean you know, like one of thier little bags, like stuffed in the trunk. It had like maggots in it but it was, like, pizza. Like they opened it up and it was pizza. There wasn’t anything else in it but he don’t remember what type of box or whatever but what I was trying to figure out was like, if that was from this night which I can see the 7272 so I knew that she had called Papa Johns, I saw the numbers afterwards I saw that she called a few Broadway pizzas,
So I said it had to be there so what I’m trying to figure out , from those pizza places is where did they deliver to? Right? You know? When I asked my sister, I asked her, just asked her this yesterday at visitation I said “Casey, I saw on your phone records that where on a night you’re supposed to be staking out where you had ordered pizza.
Is that, is that right? And she goes “Well, actually that wasn’t me, that was ..that may have been one of Tony’s roommates using my phone”
TOny: “(Acts uncomfortable, shifts around in seat) It very well may have been..I’m mean I’m at school some of the time so it may have been”
Lee: “Ok, ok
TOny: “If they ordered pizza it’s not an unusual thing”
Lee: “No, right, what I’m saying is this happened like at night. like you , it’s like 12 o’clock, 1 am ”
(One of the easiest ways to distribute marijuanna/drugs is to use a pizza delivery operation as a front)
Tony: “Oh yeah. My room mate is always ordering pizza but I don’t know if they…”
Lee: “Well what I’m saying is Casey’s saying that she’s staking out”
TOny: “Right, ”
Lee: ” ANd she’s not staking out, I mean if she’s lying to me about that then … I just don’t know what I can believe in .
Tony: “She was there, ok”
Lee: “Right, ”
Tony: “That was what she was doing, just there hanging out when I saw her. SO I mean, like I said, I said I didn’t know anything that was going on ..thinking everything was fine & dandy …making me food, making my bed, doing laundry, like, just chillin out.
Lee; (totally quiet)
Tony: “I mean, so ..
Lee: “That’s the crazy part about this whole thing the fact that, I just don’t know if I can believe what she’s saying..”
Tony: ” I mean I know I shouldn’t talk to you about this but does she like lie alot? ”
Lee: “My sister has, since Middle school (Age 11?) or high school, really. She’s always been…if she’s deceitfull she’s doing it for…No, I can’t even day that.. I’m trying to think, does she do it really only to better herself or does she even just say white lies just to do it. I’m not even sure. I’m trying to think now. Cuz sometimes it seems like she lies just to lie.
Tony: ‘ These things that I’m getting, like are comming up I, not only because of the media but things you’ve brought up about that night like “let me ask you “..
CROSSTALK BETWEEN LEE & TONY
Lee: “These are the things that I need to know about, I’m trying to figure out which Casey am I dealing with here? You know what I mean?”
Tony: ‘Right”
Lee: ” I know there’s the Casey that would, that cares about nobody else but herself and her daugher and then there’s the Casey that will put her daughter in front of everybody else, and that’s I think, the person that I’m trying to get to open up to me but like, I don’t know. I gotta go to the bathroom.
Tony: “Yeah, no problem”
Lee: “I’ll just run inside to Subway”
TOny: “Sure, sure”
(The way Tony’s been sucking on that soda I’m surprised he doesn’t have to got too.)
Tony gets a call from a wrong number (LOL) LE calls Tony, He tells them Lee’s inside.
Tony recieves instructions on how to proced with Lee (We can not hear).
http://youtu.be/dPyw1vf2mR4 Pt 6
Until 3:29 of video Tony is alone. Lee returns & hands Tony a coke. Tony tells Lee he’s checking is messages (which he really was).
Tony: Talks about the media, not sleeping, staying up the last 3 days,
Lee: What have you been eatting?
Tony: “Nothin man, just living off of cigarettes man, (Laughs)
They compare sleep patterns
Tony: “I’ve got a real cool question, cuz obviously I’ve been watching on tv, cuz like did you guys ever, like cuz I never met this nanny. She always talked like everbody knew this nanny”
Lee: “Nope, No everbody knew OF this nanny. THAT’S THE KEY HERE. My sister has used the, “yeah she’s with the nanny” or “She’s with the sitter” . I had never heard my sister used the word Zanny or Zeniada. Now that doesn’t nessecarily mean anything because I also haven’t been living at home for probably the past 3 years. You know what I mean? I mean around the time that Caylee was born so I’m not an expert when it comes to that. You know, that’s more of my mom & my dad’s field. My mom has said that she knows that my sister has saidthat name Zanny before”
Tony: “Yeah”
Lee: “SHe’s maintained this name for a long time. I don’t know if she ever heard her say Zeniada”
TOny: “Right”
Lee: “Especially I hear Zanny, I think of nanny. It’s just a z instead of where the N shoudl be. ”
Tony: “Yeah I remember that because she said “this girls name is Zeniada” like back in the day, when I first met her. SHe was at our house when I first met her. She was hanging out at our place, that was just a conversation that I remember having when she was just hanging out with us. She said “Yeah Zanny the Nanny” SO as soon as somebody says like “Zanny the nanny” that’s like….she’s said that one. “but since then, it was just a quick like…one time”
Lee: “I gotcha I gotcha”
Tony: “Yeah that’s all i knew about that. ”
Lee:” But Is there any way you can, like, can you remember from that conversation is there anyway that you can verify that there was actually even somebody else even there? That is was a girl #1, ”
Tony: ” She always, evertime I talked to her on the phone she ..when I always talked to her on the phone she said she was either outside like sitting on the stoop of something like that or like when she would go & talk to your mother, she would go outside to talk to her.
Lee: “That’s right, exactly, but remember when she would go talk to my mom she’s tell her that she was in Tamp or Jacksonville or whatever else she’s telling her? ”
TOny” Who knows…” “And I used to say to her ‘Why do you have to (go outside to) call you mom?” She’d say “Because we always get into it so I don’t want to be…if I’m outside then I won’t…you know…this whole excuse right now just make…like…no..
Lee:”Exactly!” (laughs)
TOny: “Well, at the time you know, I’m just like whatever, you know. I’m doing like something else so whatever. I didn’t think anything of it but…See I think that’s probably why…see cuz if I had caught her in a lie right then & there… I’d of been like “Yo! What’s the deal? Like why are you lying?”
Lee: “Exactly”
Tony: “Cuz I thought she was completely truthfull with me, about everything.”
Lee: “Sure”
See? that is the part I was talking about where she would go out on the deck to answer calls. I think she was conspiring with her dad.
Good evening all,
So this is the latest video release admittedly from Casey herself.
She says she’s happy, but that’s not the feeling I get from listening to her voice. I think she has a long way to go. Maybe after all the sue-happy trolls get their piece of whatever pie in the sky they think they’ll get, maybe then she’ll really be able to heal. Nonetheless, I hope she continues to release videos every week until the public literally gets bored.
“There’s nothing to see here, move along folks, move along..”
Good luck Casey
The only problem is that they can use it against her in court. I think she should be careful on the computer for now. The fact that she paid on her fines shows me that she is preparing to put in a request to end probation. Once probation is over and she moves away, I think the story will die down.
who see’s my tweets? The people I follow? or the people that follow me? or both?
Kmiller said on…February 10, 2012 at 12:01 am
GCG- Hello, so good to see you. I just wanted to add about Vasco Thompson,,,
Hi KMILLER!! Sorry I just saw your post…Great to see you! Welcome back……and
thanks for all the great info!
HolyGMom: I asked you on twitter about that one casey user and I hope I didn’t get her exposed, because I see she has not posted today.
Well, I wonder if this new law initinated by the Florida Supreme court is in honor of Perry. Cheif judges are now limited to 8 years so Perry can’t run again. He’s finished as of June 13 of next year.
In other news, what I saw about Ashton filing bankruptcy has made headlines. They’re saying it could hurt his campaign. While I know some can’t avoid foreclosure or other horrible financial distress, there is no excuse for someone that makes $120,000 a year. It proves he either doesn’t handle his money properly or else was just using the court as a way to avoid responsibility for the failure of the company he and his wife ran together. Sounds like a great may for the job of state attorney. Geesh, I wouldn’t trust him with tax payer money in any position.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Surprise-term-limit-for-Judge-Belvin-Perry/-/1637132/8761260/-/7j8cwr/-/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/state-attorney-candidates-past-financial-troubles-/nHbcm/
I think Baby Huey Should be drug tested first thing..Just sayin
Too funny, GCG!
Zuben, I just got online and saw your comment and got tickled!! Sorry, if this sounds insensitive, but ummm where are all the haters now, remb what they had to say about Jose when he had his personal financial problems? And last I checked, he wasnt running for a top office of States Attny! Oh and in a new Article at the OtherSide, its about Judge Perry and also THIS about Jeffy representing his SON….. Ahhh talking about Karma for THE HATERS!!!!!! Cant WAIT TO READ THE COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE LOLOLOL X 14 MORE!!!!!
and GCG, I too agree 
WFTV titled the story “Ashton’s son arrested.” Former prosecutor Ashton, who is running for state attorney, is representing his 21-year-old son on a driving-under-the-influence charge from October in Seminole County, Mary Nguyen reported. A jury was picked today, and the trial begins Thursday, she added.
Oh, and seems I read that Judge Perry was gonna run again and seems like Ole Hal even had an article bout that too. Hmmmmmm wonder if that means he wont be running now? Karma in a different view maybe? hee hee…. too freaking funny…. Funny how running for a Public office will bring out all your personal moments in life. Odd how the stupid haters can twist stuff I truly am laughing out loud at their Idiot comments! And what is even sweeter, I havent seen Jose Baez say ANYTHING about the LAUGHING MAN ~ that makes so much more of a Person IMHO that Asston will EVER BE! WHO IS LAUGHING NOW? Ummmmm WHINING MAN AND CO.
In other news, what I saw about Ashton filing bankruptcy has made headlines
ahahahahahahaha…Zuben this is the BEST news I’ve heard today.
Why? Because in Hater Camp they celebrated Jose Baez’s foreclosure of his home.
Yep Arkie! Who’s LAUGHING now??? me
No you haven’t Arkie.. Not a word from Jose..He’s back in the game of life, enjoying the beaches of Miami ,Florida, affiliated with a reputable law firm. Yes, Jose Baez has the good life. Sweet.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy..seems like nothing but good karma is coming his way.
OH even BETTER, Ole Jeffy gonna get his ASSton beat in election I believe, but look who he might most likely have to go up against, if he continues to practice law ,,, um as a Def attny LOL OH and whats even funnier, is I found this posted on ole Jeffys FB page hee hee
Didnt I read that ASSton was never more than an Assistant State Attny, in his 30 yrs there? GIGGLE Looks like LDB has done more with her career than ASSton did/will
Casey Anthony prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick applies for judge job
By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel
7:32 p.m. EST, February 13, 2012
Lead Casey Anthony prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick is one of 23 applicants seeking the judicial seat left open by the ouster of former Orange-Osceola Judge James Turner, the chair of the Ninth Circuit Judicial Nominating Commission confirmed today.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-prosecutor-wants-to-be-judge-20120213,0,7286846.story
OH GOD BLESS THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS COMMENT IN THE STORY ABOVE!!!! BAHAHAHAHA WHAT A LOVELY NEW ARTICLE JB CAN MAKE OUT OF THIS JUICY STUFF LOL… HAVING FUN HATERS!!!!!
scottinorlando at 11:06 PM February 13, 2012
Why put a judge in office while as a prosecutor let the bogus evidence on a computer search go forward from day 1. They asked jurors during selection what they knew about computers in an apparent effort to find the least knowledgable jurors when it came to computers.
It certainly smells like they knew from day one that chloroform search was 100% bogus.
Twisting the truth to win does not make for judge material
*** THEN
this Poor Hater cant handle the above post….. IMO, IF your were gonna use THAT INFO to try to put someone to DEATH, you would or SHOULD have your $hit together, at least by the time they went to court.
ok whining post rebuttal to above post: **** ummm “Slinging old Mud IT’S very UNBECOMING?”
Area_Man at 11:14 PM February 13, 2012
Jose is that you? The prosecution didn’t know the chloroform searches weren’t conducted 84x at jury selection because the gentleman from Cache Back didn’t know it until the day of the verdict. Quit slinging old mud. It’s very unbecoming.
On Monday, Perry said he was “totally shocked,” “bewildered” and “personally hurt” by the high court’s ruling.
“The judges in every circuit who are at some point in their tenures elected by the voters are in a better position to say who is competent to serve as chief judge and how long they serve,” Perry said. “What it [the Supreme Court order] does is take away that voice.”
Perry and other chief judges did not know this ruling was coming down before it did late last week. It was not part of changes recommended to the court. And there was no hearing, prior to the ruling, on the chief judge term limits.
The order most directly affects Perry and several other long-serving chief judges across the state. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-judge-perry-term-limit-ruling-20120213,0,1268306.story
Hi Zuben,
I agree. It is hard to trust someone who running for public office and at the same time is filing for bankruptcy. He filed bankruptcy 15yrs ago too which tells me he has a problem handling money, so how could he handle the job of Fl State Attorney, Lawson Lamar? Apparently Mr. Ashton overestimated the success of his new book..another bad decision. I wonder how the tax payers of Florida would like Mr Ashton’s 2nd bankruptcy? Running for office ain’t cheap. Anyone with a half of brain could find a way to make a decent living off of $120,000 a year.
GasCan,
Not a bad idea.. His actions were a little too sporactic during the trial. He was obviously out of control during most of his court appearances.
If I were to speculate, I’d say he was either using drugs or has a deep seated personality disorder much like a borderline personality. His outrageous behavior certainly raised eyebrows of the psychology community, just no one would openly discuss it because it was “Mr. Ashton”, the asst. state attorney going after Casey Anthony.
It’s too bad that all of these blogging-pseudo-psychology majors who diagnosed Casey as a sociopath/psychopath didn’t dare take a stab at diagnosing Mr. Ashton. Now that would be interesting.
Waaa Waaaa Waaaa the haters are biting on each other
Beverley: This is coming from someone that graduated from FSU!!
HHJP catered to that jury and they forgot why they were there. Special breaks, dessert lady, good morning from JB. SAO Ashton is now trying to get his son off of a DUI? Please if you drive drunk you are guilty! FLA needs to wake up and see that they are now the laughing stock of justice in the USA.
Reply Posted by: FSA | Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 1:20 AM
A lil Valentine Day pic for yall!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=271887896216270&set=o.223414024354603&type=3&theater
Linda Fossen author of “Out of the Miry Clay: Freedom from Childhood Sexual Abuse”.
Why I Believe Casey Anthony Was Sexually Abused
http://lindafossen.blogspot.com/2011/06/why-i-believe-casey-anthony-was.html
Haters are saying, that JA bankruptcy was 15 yrs ago and shouldnt matter lol! IMHO it would matter a hell of alot more to me as a voter of someone running for the office he is running than the personal stuff about a Def Attny in a trial. What other than talking trash does Jose having a foreclosure have to do with anything pertaining to the public?
Awww How SWEET Mimi!
Here is a Valentine from me to each & every one of you!
http://208.71.34.142/comments/holidays/valentines-day/jewel-heart-notes//dear-sweet-friend.gif#happy%20Valentines%20sweet%20friend
Aww thanks HGM that was sweet too!
JB =— did my last comment go into ‘moderation”?
Happy Valentines’ Day Everyone!! May you all know that you are loved!
Trying to catch up on all these great comments. I’ve been busy with my class work, so haven’t had much time for anything other than reading assigned books, listening to lectures and writing papers!!
Have a warm, joyful day, Missionites, and remember to let those around you know that they are loved!!
OMG….the comments under this article are GREAT!! LOVIN’ IT.
Poor laughing man….seems like your adoring fans have grown weary of your bloated ego!!! hee hee hee.
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/jeff-ashton-defend-son-dui-case/nHb5F/
Thank you for the lovely Valentine greetings, all. Happy Valentint’s Day, hugs and kisses to all of you. Also, thanks for keeping the laughts going so I have something to lighten my work load when I take a break.
I do truly wonder if this new rule handed down by the Supreme court was done in Perry’s honor because he has taking a lot of extra power I’m not so sure he had a right to take. I think he pushed the boundaries when he made it against his law to congregate with literature about juror rights, later to be used to gather in protest by Occupy Orlando group during the wee hours of the morning and arrested. But he was certainly pushing it when he let Judge Turner go but allowed him to continue collecting his nearly 150,000 income. That guy did more than just hug and kiss his secretary repeatedly, to be fired. Maybe they watched the Anthony trial too and that has something to do with their decision. Regardless, I think it is a good idea. We don’t even allow a president to park more than 8 years. These men have about as much power to do damage as a president.
So, Ashton is defending his son on a DUI? Which county is that? I checked with OC and the only case he has is an attempted murder case, poor guy. I mean that literally too. The guy was declared indigent, had a court appointed attorney but then he withdrew and Ashton signed on. The guy has a bill with the court for $55 so far. Ashton waived his right to a speedy trial and asked for a continence. http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=7776615
I can see Burdick wearing a judge’s robe. She reminds me of the attorney general a little bit. This is a good way for her to get in without having to be elected by the public after losing the Anthony case. Smart move. Will she have to run against Perry at some point if she wants in? That would be tough since he played dumb over the 84 chloroform searches. That made Perry look really ignorant or slow, to say the least.
OH, this is hilarious. I read the WFTV article. Ashton claims the jury should trust Vass’ sniffer machine but says the breathalyzer isn’t accurate. OKaaay! He is right that the road machine isn’t always accurate and can’t be used in court, but that isn’t all they use either. He was given a sobriety test and even said, did very badly at it and even admitted he had been drinking, although said it was only a couple of beers. Usually the also test back at the station with a machine that is more accurate. So, why didn’ t they do that? To do old Jeff a favor and get his son off? I hope the jury isn’t that gullible when they see the video. Or will that get thrown out too? I agree, the breathalyzers can be wrong and results can even be forged. But a video doesn’t lie. Ashton has no right even being an attorney after what he just said to that reporter.
Sorry for so many comments in a row but did you all know that Mason is representing Scott Bush? He is the friend of the Windemere cheif that kept the investigation from going forward against his buddy, then was busted and charges brought against him for corruption. Mason says a lot is being blown up in this case so I wish the media would share discovery the way they did in the Anthony trial. I’d like to know the real facts, not what the media wants us to know. http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=7528085
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Ohh Really.. I vaguely recall..Didn’t that case involve covering up a deputy charge with child molestation? Just curious.
JB
Hi Zub :-} and lets not forget that Judge Perry had his own little sexual harrasment problem way back when. I think it is fundamental “Star Struck” . Something happens to these people and they feel they are above the law. I believe that Judge Perry is what made the upper court start the term limits. They probably saw more vioaltions than any of us.
I have had to giggle every time I have thought of these new developments lol. I think it is sooo funny the haters over at the OtherSide are beside themselves as to what to say or who to stick up for lol. This is a very good comment lol
My thoughts are that Jeff Ashton should NOT defend his son. While I understand him wanting to help his son, if he is running for office he should stay out of that case. To me this is a lose lose for him. If he gets the kid off, he will have every member of MADD railing against him, if he loses, it’s also going to adversely affect him.
Reply Posted by: gullivers travels | Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM
IN 24 hrs the article on Jeffy and Judge P lol there are only 54 I SAY 54! COMMENTS LOL Losers dont know what to do with themselves, so HAL had to but up another entertainment article about none other than Casey. OH and he put up a pix of Casey, as you know thats what those haters love to hate on lol. OH and get this, the “NEW” article is about LAST WEEKS episode of The Office in which they made ref to Casey Anthony. This cracks me up 18 articles since the last Casey article 400 something comments, yet between that article and the JEFFY article there are only 54 on that article that has them shook up, nothing able to spew, as Jeffys son is DEF IN THE WRONG IF HE WAS DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE. And IMHO IF he is representing him they even state the good ole boy stuff aint gonna help him out lol. KARMA ? …. SOO now Hal has jumped to the only money maker he has and is again making their blood money off of guess who? Cant make this crap up!!!!!
OHHH OMAR those comments on the link you posted lol….YEP aint gonna be pretty, Looks like ole Jeffy better start saving whatever “Blood Money” from his book he has left cause It aint gonna be pretty…. gonna hop on over to his fb page and see how its smarmy whining begging self is gonna smooth this over. Sorry but I do not consider this just some dirty political smear…
Posted by jackmccoy2112 at 2:45 a.m. February 14, 2012
He is running for state attorney, which prosecutes these cases, but while he is waiting he is going to defend his son for DUI. It just seems wrong in so many ways. He needs to pick a side to be on, and let his son takes his lumps for driving drunk and endangering lives. I wonder if he will laugh and make jokes during this trial. Good luck Jeff.
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Oh gee Arkansasmimi,
I’m afraid I misunderstood the article. I suppose it was wishful thinking on my part..or maybe I simply got a glimpse into my crystal ball. You know, the same crystal ball that told me Casey would be acquitted. In any case, pardon my faux pas.. Ashton has only filed bankruptcy once but you know it’s still early..lol I’ll be sure to check the Orange County judicial circuit post election. From his financial track record, it only seems probable that we’ll see his name in the bankruptcy column then..stay tuned.
Donna Abello Kosman
Jeff, please convey to Linda the best of luck to become judge. Is that seat civil or criminal? Can we go somewhere that list all the candidates?
5 hours ago ·
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The Official Jeffrey Ashton Page Donna, the position is circuit, which means Orange and Osceola. The chief judge, Perry, determines assignments and judges are moved between civil, criminal and juvenile during their careers. Lina’s applied for an appointed position
hee hee
Robbie Suggs Sandifer
Don’t get me wrong. I am a HUGE fan of Jeff..(there is a but) BUT as much as we wanted Cindy and George 2 do the right thing..where their daughter was concerned..I’m kind of disappointed that Jeff is having his son plead Not Guilty AND going to trial for something he obviously did. I am open to anyone explaining this to me….. It has in fact made me a little sad.
10 hrs ago
The Official Jeffrey Ashton Page Here is the explanation, he does not believe he is guilty and believes that the evidence will bear this out. If I stand for anything these last years of my career it is that our system of trial by jury is a good system for determining the truth and he does not forfeit that right be being related to me, anyone who cannot accept that is free to abandone this site.
8 hours ago ·
lol he says free to abandon this site, lol but not abandon his run for office
Looking back thru the threads for something and found these from Zuben…. SHE is such a super SLEUTH with such foresight…
ZubenElSchemali
January 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Perry is also seeking reelection http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/os-judge-belvin-perry-seeks-reelection-20120124,0,7381281.story
ZubenElSchemali
January 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I really can’t believe that Perry released these depos. Aren’t these the same as medical records? If not then why aren’t their notes and reports public information also?
ZubenElSchemali
January 3, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Hi all. Hope your year is getting off to a good start. I didn’t watch Ashton’s announcement but did take a look at his website.
…As the Assistant State Attorney in 300 trials, 70 for murder, and two-dozen capital cases, I have worked hard to achieve one of the highest conviction rates among my peers, all while the office has suffered from anemically low conviction rates under current leadership. We need a change.
As the most experienced prosecutor in office history, ,,,
Ok, so he has worked in that office for 30 years, all the years he has lived in Florida, and they have been suffering from low conviction rate with him there all that time, even though he works so hard withholding exculpatory evidence, promotes false evidence, etc. Great campaign speech
ZubenElSchemali
December 30, 2011 at 7:49 pm
In the case where Ashton withheld exculpatory evidence, Perry was the judge. Also, didn’t they both work the black widow case together?
LOL something else funny, ole EXPRESS over at The Caylee Daily… I only say it in that tone because they speak ill of JB and The Mission. There is a blogger who got banned (lol I did too, but mine was because I asked questions that were being proved in court that disputed what they were saying lol go figure..) any way, Cha Cha now posts over at the OtherSide and got banned becase he/she spoke ill of Jeffy boy.
WELLL, just went there to read lol, Express doesnt have anything about Jeff or Judge Perry but has an article up about LDB applying for the judge position. BUT ALL THE BLOGGERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW ITS WRONG FOR JA TO REPRESENT HIS SON…. AND HOW THEY LOST RESPECT FOR HIM… TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM… SOOO wonder what ole EXPRESS and her lying begging self gonna do about that tomm.. ban all her buds lol, too funny KARMA BABY
Hi Omar!
That is AWESOME! I’m happy for you.
So you’re back in school?! Wow, I’m so proud of you!
Keep us posted.
AKM,
It’s inconceivable to them that JA is now the same as JB. He’s a “defense” attorney..no better, no worst. I promise you.. If JA had the chance to represent Casey Anthony, he would have been on it like white on rice! lol.. The only difference between JA & JB is “JB won”.
Every attorney who critiqued Jose pretrial and during trial, all said the same thing, “Baez should cut a deal” ..Hmm..Well Baez didn’t. He fought hard for his client, yet all of the Haters see is that he helped Casey get away with murder. It’s not that at all. He proved that there were OTHER possibilities, that the evidence didn’t prove murder. So now..JA is defending his drunk kid. So what? Most ppl who can afford an attorney, hire one. Most ppl whether they are guilty or not, plead not guilty. Sometimes I think these ppl come from another planet. I’d hate to think they are just plain stupid. Geesh. JMO of course.
HUGS and prayers for All, Special prayers going out to Spidy and Addie hoping tomorrow brings your bodies relief from the great pain you are under.
Lolypop, missing you girlie hugs!
Prayers for peaceful rest to you all! HUGS MIMI
JB did you see the video of JA son? UMMM I am so thankful that no one was injured. I have absolutely NO sympathy for anyone drinking or using anything else and driving under the influence. My friends and family are on those roads too… NO REASON FOR IT. I personally think on that kind of thing first time offenders shouldnt get leniency, then maybe there wouldnt be a repeat. JMHO as usual.
Have you girls seen this? It’s a post from Caseyanthonyisinnocent
Kimberly Ballman says:
September 15, 2011 at 5:38 pm
She had planned to get that tattoo long before we bumped into Lee at the bar. She had shown the idea/sketch to me during the day, when we were talking. The photo of Casey and Caylee was taken shortly after when the kids were playing. Her feeling was that the tattoo represented a new life for her and Caylee, one with out the hard life they had lived at home. One without George. So, Caylee was alive at this time. I just don’t know what to think…but I do know that she did not kill her.
Remb during the trial there were comments by the talking heads about Jeffys TIES? I think it was a sports team. One of the TH said Jeffys son had some kind of connection of it was his son fav team, cant remb correctly, wonder if this is the same son? I read on Orange Co clerk, he has been div twice, and with wife #3, and someone I think at the OtherSide said he had 2 children by ea wife. I dont know about that.
Have yall seen this? My bro sent me this…
Facebook Parenting: For the troubled teen.
http://www.youtube.com
woops, here is the link,
Uploaded by alornmage on Feb 8, 2012
Warning: Since this video seems to have gone crazy, I figure I’ll post this notice. I’m going to read a letter my 15 year old daughter wrote. There ARE some curse words in it. None of them are incredibly bad, but they are definitely things a little kid shouldn’t hear… not to mention things MY KID shouldn’t say!
If you want to see the original Facebook thread, it’s located at:
http://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii/posts/299559803434210
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My daughter thought it would be funny/rebellious/cool to post on her Facebook wall just how upset she was and how unfair her life here is; how we work her too hard with chores, never pay her for chores, and just in general make her life difficult.
She chose to share this with the entire world on Facebook and block her parent’s from seeing it. Well, umm… she failed. As of the end of this video, she won’t have to worry anymore about posting inappropriate things on Facebook…***** (he takes his gun and the laptop out to a field and shoots her laptop)
Maybe a few kids can take something away from this… If you’re so disrespectful to your parents and yourself as to post this kind of thing on Facebook, you’re deserving of some tough love. Today, my daughter is getting a dose of tough love.
© Copyright 2012, by Tommy Jordan. All rights reserved. Duplication without express permission of the author is prohibited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU&feature=youtu.be
Kimberly Ballman says:
September 15, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Well, while you might be right on, for some of this.. The dates do not fit the truth. Look into the date that Lee said he went looking for his sister to find Caylee. On this date.. Caylee was alive and happy, and as cute as can be. She went to sleep on my sofa, in the apartment we were staying in, she was being babysat, while we went out this night. We went to a house party, there are in photos from Caseys camera, and then we went to the bar, where we used a disposable camera, and met Lee, celebrated Casey’s birthday, since he had missed it, and snuck out the back so he could not follow us. The truth is in the photos on the Internet everywhere. You even have one photo that my little son took on your site. It is the photo with Casey and Caylee carrying my sons Eagles football, with his small fabric orange with black lines basketball in the grass. If you look into these photos and find the places that they were taken, and look for the friends, you will find me. I do not know ALL the truth..like I said..but I do know that Casey did not kill Caylee and that she was alive and not drowned in a pool and she was not missing. What happened after the night at the bar.. Well Caylee went with her mother and her boyfriend back to their apartment.