If Casey is silent, the bloggers are mad. If Casey is heard, the bloggers goes ape.
What’s wrong with hearing a few sentences from Casey?
In my opinion, some folks are just plain mad. They just don’t hate Casey Anthony, they hate anyone who doesn’t hate Casey Anthony.
According to Merriam-Webster dictionary the word hate is defined as an intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury; extreme dislike or antipathy or an object of hatred. Casey Anthony has become an object of hatred. Casey Anthony has been dehumanized.
Hate is a strong word.
Hate deriving from fear may also apply to the Hate Casey Anthony campaign. Was the Anthony household so American typical that others could so easily relate? I wonder how many households have had a loafer/bum in their family, one able bodied relative who chooses to live off of other family members who do work. Did this touch home with people in general? Yes, I think a lot of people could relate.
First impressions count!
What was your first impression when you saw the Anthony family? They looked wholesome, healthy, middleclass, suburban, hard working, run of the mill people who looked like they just stepped off the set of the latest CBS drama,
“Leave it to the Anthony’s” “We’re the Anthony’s” “What’s Our Line?” Take your pick, they were going to represent middle class America and Casey was going to be the trouble maker. She was going to go out one night, get drunk, get pregnant and have a child out of wedlock, bring a beautiful baby into the Anthony family which she’d use as a meal ticket for as long as she wanted.
Yes, we can relate. Many of us know of such a situation, daughter or son, living off of their parents. It’s not me, it might be you but what does it matter.
Why do the parents take it? “Because of the baby” Here’s a good television drama that will rake in the ratings because I know that many people could relate to this situation.
How do I know so many people could relate? Because I know that the death of baby Caylee Anthony was the most followed case in American history, maybe only second to OJ Simpson. That’s how!

Yes, Casey Anthony was soon depicted as the villain of the perfect little family. Or was she? Her baby was dead. Yes she was.
Little baby Caylee remains were found in an empty lot fourteen houses from the Anthony home in Orlando, Florida. This followed 4 and half months after Casey finally admitted to her mother Cindy, that she hadn’t seen Caylee for 31 days after leaving her with a babysitter, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. The world went “What!”
Myself, a person who always looks for the other slant, the mystery behind the obvious said “hmm” Interesting, who on God’s green earth does this? Who on God’s green earth thinks that this explanation was going to be accepted by law enforcement or the rest of the world? “There’s something else going on here”, I said to myself so I headed to my computer and did a Google search, “Casey Anthony”.
Yes, the rest of the world isn’t buying it hook, line or sinker. They’re angry as all get out and they’re ready to hang this bitch, but I’m not so sure.
As I’m reading, it seems that the media is reporting that Casey is a known liar, duh and law enforcement isn’t finding a Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez who will soon be referred to as ZG. Many hours of my time and others tried to find ZG. Did we? Not really, but it was worth the effort because nothing about Casey’s story was making sense even if she was guilty.
At trial, her attorney Jose Baez debunked the ZG story, saying she didn’t exist. She was made up by his client, onward, forward but it certainly is odd that his client was able to fabricate this person in such detail for so many years. ZFG first appeared to me as real in Richard Grund’s testimony to law enforcement. He said Casey told him her new babysitter was named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez and this was said by Casey to Richard Grund at least a year before Caylee disappeared. Obviously Casey wasn’t planning on offing her kid for this amount of time. If she had, she would have certainly come up with a better plan than this.
Sadly more mothers than I ever imagined have killed their young but never like this, never this complex. Again, there’s something else going on here and I feel this is the reason why so many followed and searched for answers much like I did.
The ones who wanted to share information and ideas were not welcomed on many blogsites. We had to converse with many people who were full of hatred and who had no desire for the truth. These people found their enemy and they liked it. They like the camaraderie of the Casey Anthony Haters after all they were all alike.
I never intended on making enemies in my quest for the truth to what happened to little Caylee Anthony. I don’t apologize for seeing things differently or having this blog.
I’m sadly shocked and amazed that because of a few people who delved deeper and came to a different opinion were considered a baby killer lover. I always thought they could have at least been more creative with the mnemonic for their description of me.
I don’t love a baby killer. I don’t have a problem with law enforcement. I do know of corruption in law enforcement because unfortunately I lived in New Orleans in the 1990′s.
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There was one point where we had four New Orleans police officers who were charged with first-degree murder. We had two police officers on death row. Len Davis was the first police officer in the history of the United States who was convicted and sentenced to die for the murder of a citizen who had complained about civil rights violations under the federal criminal rights statute. He remains on death row today.
Len Davis was a police officer with New Orleans Police Department who, ironically, had more commendations and awards and merit recognition than any other officer in the department and simultaneously had more complaints from citizens. …
This is a must-read article which may give some insight as to why I’m not so trusting.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/interviews/howell.html
No, this isn’t what I learned about Orlando Florida but I did learn through research that Florida is a haven for child pornography. It’s also a haven for escort services. A few escort service searches were found on the Anthony home computer. There are a few racy pictures that were found on the Anthony computer that have yet to be revealed to the public as mentioned in one of George Anthony’s interviews with law enforcement.
Where I’d like to take this article is a place where I dare not go. Lets just say, “its been implied” with no proof at least not from me but if you want to believe the prosecution’s theory, why not believe another theory because that’s all that prosecutors Jeff Ashton and Linda Drane Burdick had, a theory, a theory that the jurors didn’t buy.
To say we at theJBMission were ecstatic with the verdict isn’t entirely true although it was somewhat surprising to a lot of people but personally, I was happy that an American citizen wasn’t condemned to death without solid evidence. I was content knowing that we were right and all our research and hard work was not for naught. There was a different story to tell. It was Casey’s story, the one Jose Baez promised.
Whether folks agree with me or not, it was 2011 when this not guilty verdict was read and we should expect forensic proof in capital murder cases. That’s the nature of the beast for forensic sciences. When in some solved murder cases a simple finding of DNA, 20 years after the fact convicts a man to life in prison without one mention of his name ever being a suspect or ever involved with the victim, forensic science convicts him. This happens and we accept it in 2011 and 2012. So be it.
In the midst of ennui, we now find ourselves, 6 months post-verdict, focusing on a video tape of Casey Anthony talking about her new dog. It’s laughable to me that this is actually newsworthy! And for this I get 3 or 4 hate comments even though I really have no comment.
The most sensational story to me is that THIS BS IS A STORY and that so many news sources including The Today show are mentioning it. I expected Nancy Grace, Jane Velez Mitchell and Dr Drew but not The Today Show.
And now I learn today, the word on Blog Street is the haters know where Casey Anthony is hiding. Yes, I did say hiding.
”A United States Citizen is in Hiding!”
She’s not hiding from the police or her in-laws or husband, she’s hiding from people she doesn’t know.
That to me this is a story. Those who force this person to hide because of death threats and those who condone and protect these people should be found and charged with stalking.
Where is local law enforcement? Where is the FBI?
TheJBMission~
Sources:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hate
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/interviews/howell.html
If the writing is honest it cannot be separated from the man who wrote it. — Tennessee Williams
Brilliantly stated, JB!!
You said (snipped):
“That to me is a story. Those who force this person to hide because of death threats and those who condone and protect these people should be found and charged with stalking.
Where is local law enforcement? Where is the FBI?”
This is EXACTLY the reason that I have continued to follow this case. I expected people to grumble after the verdict was read…..but 6 MONTHS worth of hatred, bitterness, plots, ploys and plans to harrass and harm this citizen is ridiculous. Where ARE law enforcement and the FBI??
And we have said countless times here that the story was so full of holes and twists and turns that truth HAD to be stranger than fiction, and that there was way more to this story than the simpleton prosecution tried to pass off. Turns out we were correct. For me, this has never EVER been about my love for Casey Anthony (whom I’ve NEVER MET), nor about a blind, brainless following of some cult hero (Ashton, Baez, Melich…or any other person involved). Instead, it was about following the judicial process, and once that process began to take unexpected twists and turns, it became, for me, a quest to see how many of our constitutional protections were still intact. As a citizen of this great nation….I hold that right. And for those who endorse a lynch mob mentality…..your brand of vigilante justice goes against our constitution.
What can you expect from the blinded masses, though, when you have a prosecutor and various talking heads fanning the flames of hatred……flames that undoubted have burned right through that constitution which they claim protects their right to incite riotous behavior.
They should take the time to read that document. Their behavior is NOT protected freedom of speech when it leads to actions that cause another harm.
So for me, the story is NOW just what you said, JB. It’s not about Casey. It’s not even really about Caylee. It’s about the rampant stupidity and bloodlust of folks so dissatisfied with their own lives that they are on some sort of kamakazi mission to destroy anyone who crosses their paths.
Thank you Omar,
It was actually Prinnie’s article that got me thinking. Thanks so much for bringing it here.
And thank you for this insightful statement which says it all for me too.
Touche Omar! I hope the right people are reading this. It’s the truth.
BTW,
Off topic, but I wanted to share this with you.
You’d be so proud of today’s HUGE Crowd waiting for the Saints at the airport. Some say it was like a Mardi Gras parade..lol People were hooting and hollering for our beloved team. I love it. We love our Saints no matter what. They played an awesome game.
Cool, huh?
Thank you for the great article. My distrust of the police stems from watching the police beat on a bunch of hippies at the house accross from us in LA. It was 1968, it was in carson and my cousin and I lay in the dark in the front yard and watch the police pull hippie after hippie out of the house and beat them with night sticks. I was in 7th grade or so. When you are alone, on the hiway and it is just you and the officer, it is pretty scarey.
I do support local authorities and know many of them personally. But I do not know how they would act in certain situations. Most of them are very cocky. lol
That is DEFINITELY cool, JB!! The Saints played an amazing game, and there’s no reason for any heads to be hanging low!! I love those boys!!! We’ll be back better than ever next year. Time to enjoy a rest!!
NTS….like you and JB, I think that most LE officers are good. I respect LE, and I appreciate the job they do. As I’ve stated before, I’m from a family full of LE. HOWEVER, because I am….I know that not all LE are on the job because they wear a big red “S” on their chest and chant something about protecting truth, justice and the American way. Many of them are just as crooked as those folks they arrest. A small minority are there to hide their own illegal shenanigans. Find an honest cop and ask him what he thinks about the morality and integrity of his “brothers in blue”….and if he is truly honest, he’ll either decline to answer, or you may hear some things that would keep you awake at night. I know I have.
But that doesn’t mean I’m anit-law enforcement. Quite the opposite. What I am is anti-crime….no matter what uniform, badge, keyboard or business suit the criminal is hiding under.
Great article JB…Bravo!
I was watching a segment on Dr. Drew last week about anti-bullying. Really??? The network he works for is the biggest bully of all. I have been checking out facebook and twitter profiles of haters…guess which shows they watch. I can’t believe in this day and age someone who has been acquitted is in hiding. Maybe these people would be happier living somewhere where it is ok to stone someone because you think they are guilty of a crime. Oh, that’s until the stone is lifted and hurled at them. I can’t believe adults behave this way…it is disgusting and not a very good example for their kids.
Great Article JB and AWESOME Posts~ I so much agree…. I think it quit being about Caylee along time ago with a lot of the haters. They state their hateful msg and then end it with a reference to RIP or some other kind of stmnt and Caylee…. Sad
So proud that the Saints were shown the Love that the Home Base has for them!!!! Still catching up!
NTS, I got an email from twitter LOL that says that YOU sent me a tweet saying the same thing you said was sent to you. Luckly I saw your post on the last thread, so I am not going to click on the link. My twitter is private, but has no personal info, so if they got thru to it like you said, for what? other than to harass.
Wow some freaks are def out there~ does this mean this chick did this or did someone else? Strange….
AmeliaSobel Amelia Noel Sobel
For the armature detectives out there, I am about to BLOW your minds: findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi…
7 minutes ago
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83483294
This IDIOT Hal, he is losing it, so are the dumb azz posters there lol! This person makes a valid comment. Hal just aggs on the hate! IMHO
Wait a minute, help me understand this, they won’t pay her because she’s toxic, yet her name is good to make ratings and money for the network as long as they don’t pay her!!!!
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What a bunch of hypocrites just like Nancy Disgrace, money money money
as long is not her and just us.
Reply Posted by: Nancy Grace Wig | Sunday, January 15, 2012 at 9:09 AM
*** Hal’s note: She is notorious. People want to ridicule her, not be in business with her.
Posted by: halboedeker | Sunday, January 15, 2012 at 9:18 AM
MY POINT EXACTLY!
Hal’s note: She is notorious. People want to ridicule her, not be in business with her.
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I thought a jury found her not guilty, what am I missing.
Reply Posted by: Madelin | Sunday, January 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I agree with many that believe those that hate Casey are not actually mad at Casey, but mad at their own personal failures of being hood-winked by the media for years who perpetuated unproven allegations/speculations and gave out just-plain-wrong information about the case. As you likely know, the mental health agencies have exploded with new clients since the verdict as many of the haters have found total disbelief in having been wrong about the case/potential verdict for so many years which highlights failures on their own part. People that understand how the criminal justice system in America appear quite content with the verdict as siding with the fact that the prosecutors failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Now, the failed-prosecution team is attempting to sell books off the case and are exemplifying true blood-money for their own benefits, which is far worse, imo, than any lie Casey ever told which is all she was convicted of in the murder trial. The haters are also uncomfortable with their own being hood-winked especially learning that Casey may conclude her probation time in just a matter of weeks from today.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83483294
Eli kept telling RadioNews that the name was his sister’s name and that she had been an author but died due to suicide and stop posting info on the alternate Amelia.
He just posted it tonight!!! WTF?
HI HGM! You too JanCorey!
Yes I saw that site on twitter a few ago. I didnt get it either. Oh who is Eli, been out of the loop some lol
Amelia Sobel’s new webbie has this address but it’s not working properly just yet
http://wxposingcasey.weebly.com/
Geesh, people’s marriages are falling apart over thier Casey Anthony obsessions:
Originally Posted by adair
I have many windows open too, as i bounce around….and i get told well its your computer, do with it what you want….ok….get the hell outta my face.
Ya know last night, I saw Dr G about Caylee, and i was about to head to bed…i somehow got this horrible sinus infection….the kind that makes your teeth throb. ….well it came on. And i think (nyquil) dh was playing a video game…he got up, told me of how mothflicking sic of hearing about this cunt he was and left the house…….
Had he not said a word, the nyquil would have had me snoozing in five minutes…but nope he made a big deal out of the time that i have spent..and still spend. So i do not know what i would do without my JQ..
. Its like a support group.
imoo
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61203&page=20
adair
Brain Dust Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,542
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OK….please do not hate me….or think bad of me. I read here almost every day. A great part of me died when that flucking verdict was read.
And if i drink a few beers and try to bring some smiles, laughs to all who i believe are my friends………then so be it…its not like we are drinking and driving…i think we all handle it in our own way, and so if i get sarcastic….and cry, or get pissed…. I am just another poster who came here to see Justice for A baby Named Caylee Marie Anthony.
……and a big huge part of me died when that slore walked out of the jail. So….while we are awaiting Karma….lets laugh, have some fun…..because if i did not have you guys to laugh with I would be crying, or in a really deep depression. This case has affected me more on then probably know……..mentally, physically, the nightmares, the thought of loosing thought in our legal system (y’know at one time i was all for stoning slore)…
This is how i deal, i lurk, make comments and try to make jokes……because without my sick humor i would be lock up…..lalalalalala mooo imo ykwim
adair
Brain Dust Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by Simba
I’m so sorry adair
Thanks, but it Really struck a nerve for him….me….I am hoping that i learn a bit more….I said, its dr G……he was like how many years are you gonna follow it? Then the Dickhead asked me if they caught the killer yet. (LMAO)
I was really quite……..I gave that look that moms give, if you say one more word……..you all know it.
He stfu after that look.
OH MY HGM THIS CHICK NEED SERIOUS HELP! I am SURE THERE ARE MANY MORE LIKE HER! SAD!!! FURTHER ON down from the post HGM posted: DUH~ WHY would a PART OF HER DIE? SHE DIDNT KNOW THOSE INVOLVED! ROFLMBO!
01-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,542
OK….please do not hate me….or think bad of me. I read here almost every day. A great part of me died when that flucking verdict was read.
And if i drink a few beers and try to bring some smiles, laughs to all who i believe are my friends………then so be it…its not like we are drinking and driving…i think we all handle it in our own way, and so if i get sarcastic….and cry, or get pissed…. I am just another poster who came here to see Justice for A baby Named Caylee Marie Anthony.
……and a big huge part of me died when that slore walked out of the jail. So….while we are awaiting Karma….lets laugh, have some fun…..because if i did not have you guys to laugh with I would be crying, or in a really deep depression. This case has affected me more on then probably know……..mentally, physically, the nightmares, the thought of loosing thought in our legal system (y’know at one time i was all for stoning slore)…
This is how i deal, i lurk, make comments and try to make jokes……because without my sick humor i would be lock up…..lalalalalala mooo imo ykwim
OK< HGM, so does this mean that this person has changed the name from the Amelia to this new name?
KiranAnon Kiran [Unidentified]
If you knew Amelia and you thought she was still alive I am so sorry for leading you on. Please contact her brother: facebook.com/profile.php?id…
1 hour ago
HGM this person has your tweets in her pix lol
Which one? LOL
It makes me feel better to find there are people in this world like you JBMISSION. A great post.
BRAVO! & Thank You.
Mimi, so now she not only admits to posing as the hacker group annonymous and threatening our dear JB’s blog back in July but she also admits to being taken over by our internet terrorists Joyceln/Jess/etc. She just admitted to hundreds of violations. LOL!
OH NO! THIS IS SAD!
bobkealing bob kealing
Sorry to hear this. Amazing tree“@WESH2Sunrise: BREAKING: The Senator, oldest pond cypress in the WORLD (3500 yrs) burning right now.
3 minutes ago
What happened???
Does anyone rememeber the bounty hunter link that had a guy w Casey as his website image? I wanna carry it over to Prinnies to those terrorists.
Gas Can George…. How is the NEW GRANDSON? can ya give us any stats?!!! Congrats again!!!!!
Wow, poor Adair is “ate up” with hate. That poor husband, you know hate like that spills over into every relationship. I’m sure he’s thinking WTF happened here? Funny, all this bitchin’ and spewing hate from her and he doesn’t know the first thing about the case…except he does ask a good question…have they found the killer yet. Obviously NO because they did not investigate all they should have…GA!
Great article, JB. I was just thinking to myself yesterday after reading some hateful comments wishing death and worse, that I am sometimes ashamed to be a part of this species we call human. Isn’t it ironic that human is the root of humane, to be compassionate and helpful to our own kind? Other species will wish death on their own kind but only when their own survival is at stake, if they are starving or otherwise threatened. They don’t attack each other, except to take the position as leader of their small group or to assure their immortality through procreation. Once they have secured their position in the pack, they don’t go to another pack and taunt, harrass or try to kill one that isn’t trying to take food out of their mouth. They don’t push their way into the territory of another pack either.
I may have said this before, regarding LE…the same qualities it takes to be a criminal are the same that are used by LE, some being nothing more than criminals with a badge, which they think gives them the legal right to violate other human beings. The energy is the same and can be seen in the astrological patterns of both. The only difference, if there is any, is how they decide to use what they were born with. They are both willing to take away another’s property, use violence against and even willing to kill their own kind. The fine line of the law is often stepped on and over into the world of the criminal. I support the need for LE and have respect for the ones that deserve it. But I don’t hold any illusions about reality either, not any more.
Great article, JB, and good comments by everyone, too. I think a lot of the reason that these people hate Casey (and anyone associated with her) so much is that the verdict has made a lot of these people look very stupid. They had obssesed about this case for 3 years, bragged to all their friends aand family how all the documents they had read and how much they knew about the case. They had proclaimed to everyone they knew personally and virtually that Casey was guilty without a doubt and it was just a matter of whether the jury would sentence her to life in prison or death. Then, in a matter of seconds as the verdict was read, these haters were made to look like complete fools…………….and they were not happy about it. Someone must pay for this public humiliation they suffered so they take it out on anyone who accepts the verdict.
So what are these haters to do now that (they feel) the justice system has failed them? They sit at their keyboards and vent. They throw hissy fits and threaten to boycott something in order that justice (in their feeble, little minds) is served. They wait for karma to get Casey and the members of her DT. They rush to their computers every morning to see if a satelite has fallen on Casey’s house or if Baez got hit hit by a bus. But karma sometimes takes a long time and they are impatient so they they have to invent things to make Casey and her team look bad. They spread rumors and hack accounts in order to help karma along so that one day they will finally be able to say “See, I was right about Casey ll along.” All JMO
Excellent writing, JB! I wish I could write as well as you.
The magnitude of this case still astounds me. There are so many subplots. One of the many disturbing aspects for me is how easy it is for an entertainment channel to pretend they are a news channel. I would like to see Head Line News forced to change their name to Headline Gossip. Then it would be a little less easy for the masses to believe all that comes out of Nancy Disgrace’s mouth.
When I examine all the plots and subplots, it all boils down to truth. Sometimes the truth is so much harder to believe that people will create some fantastic things (i.e chloroform manufacturing, heart-shaped sticker placed on duct-tape). I believe that facing the truth in this case means some of the ‘haters’ would then have to face the truth in their own lives. Facing the truth of child sexual abuse/incest, police corruption, and denial is not easy. It is much easier to believe that a selfish, petulant young woman murdered her daughter – despite there being no evidence that she is selfish or petulant.
Very good article JB!
I would like to add, in my opinion, that it is not only those in the general public, the totmob as I like to call them, who hate (and the totmob does not include everyone who thinks the jury got the verdict wrong, only those who are expressing hatred and wishing physical harm or worse on the acquitted) the fact they were so wrong about the verdict, but indeed, this strong dislike for Casey and the verdict also encompasses the majority of media outlets and MSM websites. HLN is still proclaiming Casey is a murderer albeit an acquitted one. When does this become slander? The media seemingly is refusing to acknowledge they were wrong, and it is obvious from the release of this video, that the media is so desperate to save face they are willing to run stories that come from unnamed sources, unsubstantiated rumors, and a virtual anonymous twitter war of words. LOL, where has the respected investigative journalism gone? I’m not giving a pass to the minions in the totmob, because they have issues, but the sensationalistic gossipmongering media is feeding these issues, and at some point need to be held accountable for irresponsible reporting. I’m all for freedom of speech, but there are some rules that I think apply here. Anyway, I hope you all have had a great beginning to the new year.
JB sorry your Saints lost, I was looking forward to seeing them play my Patriots in the Super Bowl LOL, I hope my Pats can beat the Ravens this time. Have a great day everyone.
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Sweet.
Thanks thedeviledadvocate, very good point and well stated. The media is certainly taking their lost personally and are not being true to their profession. “Objectivity” is the key to good journalism.
I’m sorry you were stuck in mod too.
And BTW, I was looking forward to the Saints and the Patriots in the SB too! I hope the Pats beat the Ravens, and I hope the Pats have a chance to beat the Giants if they get there, in the SB.
Have a great day!
JB
Bombshell Tonight…Casey Anthony makes funny face in new photo!!
Haha…WESH just can’t get enough of this girl! I think they’re afraid of losing their little cash cow!
Way to go Casey …I think you have them all by the balls! LOL
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/19590190/slideshow.html…
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Thanks Jill, that’s just what I wanted to hear. Yeah for Casey! That’s exactly what she needs to do.. love it!
JB
Jill @ 1:31 – WESH and the Orlando Sentinel are milking their little cash cow for all it’s worth!
I think people (haters) are forgetting that this happened almost 4 years ago. In the meantime her brother has gotten married, her parents have gone on vacations. Life does go on.
Pool news
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/01/16/fewer-kids-being-hospitalized-for-near-drowning/
Haters do not like to talk about pool safety
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Yes they do notthatsmart, yes they do. I love one-liners. lol
Sorry you were stuck in mod
JB
hi karen nice to meet you glad you found JB!!
hello everyone hope you are well
JB, what a great article, and you say it best to people who don’t quite understand why we found one another and why we strive for finding out details and ensuring those details are legit because if you ask me, that is how you get real justice… you say it best right here, snippet from your post above,
“I was happy that an American citizen wasn’t condemned to death without solid evidence.”
exactly!
Sam
January 16, 2012 at 11:14 am
This post was so well stated that I find it hard to believe you don’t think you can write!
“Facing the truth of child sexual abuse/incest, police corruption, and denial is not easy. It is much easier to believe that a selfish, petulant young woman murdered her daughter – despite there being no evidence that she is selfish or petulant.”
Aw, thanks HGM. I just admire JB’s writing skills greatly.
Speaking of legit details. Do any of you know if Baez for sure quit? I know there was some story out there naming an unknown source for the info so I’m not so sure it’s true. Anybody?
Hi Karen! So far, Dorothy Clay Simms has resigned but there is no confirmation on Baez as of yet, as far as I know.
I’m thinking of the bread and circuses of the Roman Empire when HLN comes to mind. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I taught the US Constitution to freshmen in high school for 5 years. I was so appalled at the Constitution”s being figuretively torn apart and spat upon, especially by Perry’s little kangaroo court. I could hardly believe the jury’s verdict. IT VINDICATED THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW. No doubt the case will be picked apart for years. But the jury’s verdict was a huge triumph!!
Thank you Zuben,
You’ve hit the nail on the head. There is a thin line that some LE cross which is unfortunate but true. We hear about it everyday. Maybe Humans should look to other mammals to learn humanity?? Most mammals only kill for survival. The Seven Deadly Sins come to mind.
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The 7 Deadlies are often motives for murder too.
Yes Yellow Dog, they look stupid when they refuse to accept the verdict. Even their leader Bill Sheaffer said the State didn’t prove their case.
As for bashing the DT?? Un-freaking-heard-of! And of course the media doesn’t help them move on because they just keep throwing gasoline on the fire.
Shameful!
schatzn,
Its good for me to hear this from you, a teacher of the Constitution. Sometimes I need validation because it seems like I’m in the minority much too often. Agreed, the jury did vindicate the Constitution BIG time!! Yeah for the Constitution and Yeah for the Jurors!
Thanks for commenting here.
karen,
I don’t know if Baez officially resigned but honestly I didn’t know he has to?? As Sam mentioned, DCS officially resigned but I’ve used lawyers before and I don’t recall any of them, officially, on a signed document, quit. Honestly, I don’t see why it’s necessary but rest assured, the day Baez does officially resign, the media will make sure we know about it.
Thank you Sam and You are an excellent writer!
Sometimes I assume too much. I assumed once the public watched the NG for an hour they would catch on. Her show is for entertainment purposes only. I’ll give NG credit for reporting missing children and women but to believe every morsel that comes out of her mouth, especially in the Anthony case where the documents were right there to read?? don’t understand why so many would depend solely on NG for Anthony updates, most of the time she was 3 days behind. lol Maybe NG relies on information from blogsites?? IDK, but she’s not NEWS.
What’s that adage? “Truth is stranger than fiction”
Thanks for your comment.
Have sooooooooooo much to say …. but most importantly….JB’s writing is amazing!! She’s the best —and BTW –sooooo cute!
Thanks, JB. I’m nearly positive that when an attorney agrees to take a case they have to officially file notice of tat with the court and also, as long as the case is ongoing, they have to file notice if they are going to leave. The appeal makes it still ongoing. Since JB is lead I think he has to get permission from the judge too, but I’m not as sure about that. Now, there’s no reason he can’t stay on officially with Mason actually doing the appeal, if he has moved to Miami or if he has other reasons. The gossip has been that she dismissed him from beng her PR spokesperson to find a book or interview deal though, right? That is seperate from being her attorney and legal advisor so even if they have parted ways in one area, that doesn’t mean he isn’t still her attorney. I will consider it gossip until I hear it from the horses mouth anyway.
Current news, hearing tomorrow, 9:30am ZG case. Also, a strip club in Port St. Lucie has offered Casey a job. I bet the next form of harassment from the haters will be to pressure her PO into violating her for refusing this job.
No other mothers have killed their children in such a complex way? I really think that this kind of a sweeping statement is out of line. You dont know that, I believe that many women have killed their children in a complex way, if you want to describe it as such and have never been charged
until years later. And whats so “complex” about it anyway – she killed her kid, and dumped her body and made up all this bull about being abused when she got caught and a lazy and disinterested jury let her off. Thats the gist of it. Dont make it more than it was. I see not only Baez has jumped ship, but Sims has as well. They say she wouldnt get the help in therapy that she needs as the excuse for quitting her. They at least recognize that she does in fact need help – a lot of help. She will not be able to live a normal life because shes not normal – she is a deeply disturbed sociopath and she continues to use everyone around her that she can until they finally cant take her any longer – just as Baez and Sims couldnt.
Thank you Hazaka! Thats sweet of you to say.
Ahh… I got it Zuben, I forgot about the appeal. Thanks for the update on the ZG case too.
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Wow, this is completely off topic but every so often I go back to read old threads.
Anyway, this is in response to RootingforCasey, an interesting comment.
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/if-the-tape-dont-stick-you-must%e2%80%a6retract/#comment-7867
snipped from my response
Cindy did have all her ducks in a row, but not for Casey. I’m just realizing that Cindy wasn’t an accomplice for Casey, she was an accomplice for George. That’s why she’s cleaning up the car. I never understood why she would admit this to LE but now I think GA made her do it.
It was to make it look like Cindy was the caring mother covering up for her child. hmm..
BTW,
I was putting up with a lot of BS from UnreasonableDoubt at this time too.
I wonder where she is now?? Probably another follower in the Anti-Casey Nazi Campaign.
I’m really beginning to see the correlation. Hatred is how Hitler gained so many followers. He fed on an object of hate and subsequently attracted some of the most diabolical, evil minded psychopaths Europe had to offer which is much like what’s happening in the Casey Hater Camp.
The purpose of supporting Caylee and speaking out against the verdict may have been honorable in the beginning, but has since attracted a few terrorists. hmm.. jmho
Theou,
Would you care to offer up a name of a murderer who killed her child in such a complex way other than Casey? The only other one that MAY be accomplished this is Darlie Routier which is another person that I believe may have been erroneously convicted. JMO, of course.
What other mother chose to kill her child, and NOT leave town and NOT try to hide, but went out in public, writing checks on her friend’s bank acct, tells a blatant “obvious” lie that could be debunked in a matter of minutes by LE and anyone else who has a phone book.
Are you kidding me! You see nothing different in Casey’s presumed crime?
If you read my article, I was not pointing out what I KNOW now, I was pointing out what the media wanted me to believe THEN and how I got to where I am NOW which is she did not not murder her daughter.
You totally missed the point.
BTW, would you care to leave the link to the document stating that it is a FACT that Jose Baez has resigned from the Anthony case?
Theou says:
First of all, who is “they”? The ones who say that “she needs an excuse for quitting her” huh??
YOUR OPINION!!
You say, She will not be able to live a normal life because she is not normal. “She is a deeply disturbeb sociopath” <- Where's the psyche report that says this? Link please. Because the one I read says Casey is normal.
You say, "she continues to use everyone around her that she can until they finally cant take her any longer" <- From what document did you read this? Link please.
Theou, I don't know why I bother. This is all rumor and conjecture. As you know, I don't feed off of the media for my information so please use the letters "IMO" because that is exactly what your comment was. Your opinion and you're free to have one.
I understand if my article annoyed you… No problem. Peace.
JB and everyone!
Well said blog and comments:) I liked the comparison to Hitler. I know it seems like a large segment of population that comments on these articles, and i think six months ago, it was. Now, I wonder, if it a very small segment that trolls every article just looking to pounce on someone with a different opinion. I’m not negating the concern this hate-group raises though. Their antics should be news-worthy! The ABC article, “9 Things You Didn’t Know About Casey Anthony” – the commenters called for the ABC to fire the writer! I can’t help but laugh out loud that “they” assert their right to free speech yet ask for the writer to be fired?? Infantile. These people haven’t learned to critically think, which we all know is crucial to sucess and good mental health. Also, these people calling for street justice? The people I’ve come across IRL that tote those ideals are most often NOT -law abiding; an unkind person would call those types as “lowlifes”. I’m iinclined to agree with that sentiment too.
Have a lovely evening.
Ugh. Sorry i didnt proof that first:(
jb – I lived your write up! You have a way of putting things in order and expressing what I believe so many of us feel. Thank you!
schatzn;
Your comment “Perry’s little kangaroo court” was priceless! The blatant bias shown by all levels of LE in this case has me very, very frightened of the degredation of our judicial system. I can not believe no representative of the legal system spoke out about this!
re: Baez. When he was on Geraldo earlier when this video first came out Geraldo asked him something about “the case”. Baez answered “what case? There is no case, she was found not guilty”. That leads me to believe he is done with representing her? Isn’t Cheney Mason handling the appeal? He fulfulled his duties to her in the representing of her in her trial, right? So why would he have to formally give notice of withdrawing from representing her? That is just my take on it.
Great article JB!
We can only hope the haters that read it don’t only comprehend the following,
Blah Blah Blah
Yadda Yadda Yadda
Yakity Yak Yak Yak
Sad thing is, think they are SO Jealous of Casey,,, they want to believe she killed her baby so they can have a somewhat valid reason to continue to hate her!
Jealous of her looks, her life, her friends, her intelligence and Jealous of the wonderful relationship she had with HER baby!
Not THEIR Caylee!!
Casey only has her looks and smarts now and they STILL hate her because IMO they still have the Party Girl image burned in their brains and she had this so-called life they could only dream of having.
Miserable lonely ugly-ass pathetic losers is all the haters amount to!
IMHO
Just saw a tweet that said a picture of Caylee that is imposed on money is blasphemous. My gosh…Caylee was a beautiful sweet little girl but “they” are trying to make her a God. Yes… I think they have forgotten that Caylee was Casey’s child. They hold no claim to her. I think some of these people need some serious meds. And, no I don’t hate a one of them…don’t know any of them. In fact, I am a little concerned for them.
Defending the honor of Casey Anthony
I just talked to REALsobel. everybody on twitter keep any eye out for keepittogether2 to reactivate their account. once they do follow them! they are the ones who Ameila got those pics from 1 hour ago
LOL
Donia Thimons ▶ Defending the honor of Casey Anthony
If..this is Casey Anthony!
Did Jose Baez, Cheney Mason .Lisabeth Fryer and Dorothy Sims..Sheriff Demings …Anyone of them ever told you I had sent a 10 page fax to Jose Baez, I saw Caylee with 2 women in Moore Haven,Florida on June 19th 2008?
The remains on Suburban were NOT Caylee..I am 100% positive Caylee is Alive. I sent a package to Washington DC last friday…You don’t own NOTHING to Orlando…They owe YOU Big Time Girl!
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I got no time to loose with people that Only live on fbook…It’s not over till the fact Lady sing..and Casey can carry a tune! We should hear from the Court of Appeal shortly, then The Greivance Committee ,where Jose Baez will have to defend himself on the 2 Ethic violations, with a 9 jurors_like panel…Then John & Zaneida & Miller and again, The sh*t might hit the fan with an FBI Press Conference…announcing a Federal Grand Jury investigation…John Morgan filed a Homeland video of Caylee at the Orlando Airport July 2nd 2008 and she was again seen at the Orlando Executive Airport…approximatly 45 minutes after Casey was released from the OC Jail…Cindy called 911 on an unsubstanciated emergency call…Then Jose signed a $200K contract with ABC News and Nancy Gracefully used F.S.119 to sell The Nancy Grace Story…Now it’s about time you ALL listen to The Casey Anthony Story…Nancy had a wild imagination and one thing Jose Baez has sressed and True was that the “Crime scene was staged”.and Dr G said it herself..You cannot get DNA from very dry bones and this FBI Nuclear DNA was not found by the FBI,,,READ THE REPORTS…. God Bless you All<:.I am facebook Out…
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I repeated what Dr.G said on The Today Show.And I saw and talked to Caylee on June 19th 2008 and the rest above. The one thing I am 100% positive is It was Caylee ,because her name was said..So She could NOT have died on June 16th 2008..They said it was Caylee But it could not have been her.Besides John Morgan filed that Video in defense of Zaneida backl in 2009 and Judge Hernandez SAT on this evidences.What is WRONG with you is You beleive everything you hear on TV…WRONG …it's Entertainment…and it was Nancy's story for rating$ , using a piece of cardboard claiming it was ductape wrong..,Nancy magnified the fact and it was proven at the trial…. Casey said Caylee was kidnapped . Nancy dramatized the fact to sell her story and make a buck and that's what she was paid for. IT WAS Not Casey's story and it will be determined in Court. There is much more to the story than Nancy"s story..It's full of wholes.Why do you think Casey was found Not Guilty? Because there was more to it.and I know that for a fact…
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You do realize that NG of HLN actually was a part in causing the death of a victim before and ordered to pay out more than 2hundred thousand to the victim’s family for causing the suicide death of a non-convicted victim?
Well said Jill, well said. Thanks.
Jb,
Loved your post about the 7 deadly sins!
In the movie 7 wasn’t it ENVY that was the killers sin, I think he envied the detectives life so he cut off his pregnants wife head and delivered it to him in a box!
And about giving Nancy Grace lil credit for putting missing childrens stories out there,,, you may wanna snatch that credit back if you watched an entire episode,,lol… (I know it’s nauseating) but by the end of her program, she has done gotten all of her audience convinced that the child is DEAD, MURDERED by her choice of parent!
No one would even think to to help look for a living child and phone in a tip after she shreiks for justice for a hour!
(besides a small handful that thinks like us)
Hey finnejer,
Thanks, Yes “envy” is powerful. You’re right, I never get pass 10mins of her show..lol How’d you know? So everybody is a killer and there’s no such thing as people who do kidnap children from their homes. Really.
http://tinypic.com/m/fbw9s2/2
Jerry Kuzma’s daddy is from Scottsdal AZ. ALso, the BORG going by the name of Amelia is also Joyceln/Jess/Renegade
“In recent days the twitter account @ameliasobel and its Facebook counter-part have been used by more than one person. I happen to be a member of a global group dedicated to freedom of information, and this group has agreed to aid me in getting the truth revealed. I have no interest whatsoever in any kind of media contact or making any money off of Caylee.”
Renegade, We know who you are and I can’t wait for your FALL!
Sorry to muck up the Mission but dumb Amelia wanted some info on peeps so I though I’d help her out. Not able to twitter from work and all.
@Amelia, apparently you are really really dumb. LOL You have picked a fight/blog war with a few PROs.
Prinnie ie Princess of BeaconHell.com.
Radio/RadioNewsBlog of RadioNewsblog previously Radio from WS
NotThatSmart – All around smarty who graces us with their presence & formally of WS
and Me ~ Internet News Now and also formerly of WS
Not to mention JB, Sam, Mimi, COL, and others who have been e-terrorized by the “collective”.
Also I have already been publicly “roasted” by Radio. THere’s nothing you could add that would intrest ANYONE. LOL!
http://beaconhell.com/blog/2011/09/12/oh-anthony-haters So true!
HGM, that website is registered by proxy and the location is for that proxy server, not the owner of the site. You’ll see lots of sites with this info because Godaddy is a popular proxy host.
HollysGmom
January 17, 2012 at 3:04 am
i clicked on the link from my cell and it was a Facebook warning about never giving out my password…
Good mornin darlings! I hope you all have a TERRIFIC tuesday!
THanks Zuben, I thought it a possibility but oh well.
Sorry Addie & All Here’s the proper link http://theoriesofcayleeanthonydeath.com/
It seems that today’s hearing, less than half hour, was closed. Only Green, Mason and Fryer were there, what applies to ZG case also applies to TES case. I can only assume Mason and Fryer were there because of the appeal and possibly because of this recent theft of her private material, along with the attempts to expose her location, with ongoing threats against her life we’ve all read.
An update on the appeal from the 5th district court…EOT stands for extension of time, ROA is record on appeal.
11/01/2011 Order Granting Time Extension To File Record 01/17/2012 ANY FURTHER REQUESTS FOR AN EOT FOR THIS PURPOSE MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY AFFIDAVIT FROM COURT REPORTER STATING FACTUAL BASIS FOR NEED FOR FURTHER EXTENSION
11/01/2011 RESPONSE Appellant PER 10/28 ORDER
11/02/2011 ORD-Corrected Order OF 11/1 ORDER
11/03/2011 Miscellaneous Order 11/1 RESPONSE ACCEPTED; ROA SHALL BE FILED IN COMPLIANCE W/ COURT’S 11/1 ORDER
12/21/2011 Motion Supplemental Record & Eot For Brief Appellant
01/12/2012 ORD-Grant Supplemental ROA & EOT for Brief 02/11/2012 SUPP ROA W/I 30DAYS;INIT BRF W/I 30DAYS OF SUPP
This would go with this from t he county clerk docket, I believe.
01/10/2012 Transcript
Motion to Set Aside/Vacate Convictions and Sentencing 7/7/11
01/10/2012 Transcript
Motion to Suppress Statements Hearing 3/2-3/3/11 Volume I
01/10/2012 Transcript
Motion to Suppress Statements Hearing 3/2-3/3/11 Volume II
01/10/2012 Transcript
Motion to Suppress Statements Hearing 3/2-3/3/11 Volume III
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/1-6/3 & 6/15/11 Volume IV
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/1-6/3 & 6/15/11 Volume V
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/1-6/3 & 6/15/11 Volume VI
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/1-6/3 & 6/15/11 Volume VIII
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/1-6/3 & 6/15/11 Volume IX
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/1-6/3 & 6/15/11 Volume VII
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/24/11 Volume X
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 6/24-6/27/11 Volume XI
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial Proceedings 6/27/11 Volume XII
01/10/2012 Transcript
Jury Trial 7/1, 7/3 & 7/4/11 Volume XIII of XIII
01/03/2012 Directions to Clerk
Since the last entry is July 4, I believe they are still waiting for the rest, July 5 and including the sentencing hearing on July 7.
HGM, Amelia, or what ever her name is, has a receipt posted I bet she is going to claim it is connected to Baez’ office in Kissimee. The number above is G Lospe in Winnepeg and the number above that is the zip for the Critterden, KY post office. It’s been a while since I’ve used UPS, trying to save the US post I guess. I’ll have to dig in prior years to look at an old receipt. Guess who else has an office in Kissimmee.
Kissimmee, Florida – Morgan and Morgan
1-877-MORGAN-LAW (877-667-4265)
198 Broadway Ave.
Kissimmee, Florida
I have followed this case from the beginning also. I don’t put any stock into most of what is written about CA but I have always thought she killed Caylee. The phone call home was enough to convince me of that. I just wanted to say that I don’t hate CA. And I don’t hate the ones who don’t hate her. lol I just wanted to put that out there. Peace
Thanks Zuben! I tried to get her to explain it but alas… I found the Canada address and the UPS number. It appears to be a receipt from wher SHE mailed something, right? She wouldn’t have a receipt for something mailed to her.
Hello Sunny That 1st call home? Where she asked for TonyL’s #?
IIRC Jose asked Tony on the stand what did he know of the big secret? That phone call home was to get Tony’s number for a reason. In my opinion, Tony knows a lot more than he is saying about what kc told him. He stayed home from school on the 17th for a reason, and I doubt it was sex. She was probably an emotional mess.
Ok, silly me, that is a USPS receipt, not UPS. Now, I checked one of mine and the phone number next to the date is my local post office where I shipped from The number above it, I can’t seen to figure out but based on the line of numbers above it, I believe it is the code for the main post office. The line above is the zip+4 for the local post office so…
The package was sent from
4440 CRITTENDEN DR LOUISVILLE, KY 40221-9998
To Kissimmee, Florida
Canada isn’t involved at all.
They used the medium priority flat rate box at the cost of 10.95, so this doesn’t sound like a shipment of a dvd or video tape which would easily fit in the small priority flat rate box. My guess is she got a hold of the receipt for the gifted camera, coming from an admirer in Kentucky, sent to Baez in Kissimmee. Unless it is a whole lot of stolen video and sent to Morgan.
Looking for KY connections:
http://www.whas11.com/home/WHAS11-goes-one-on-one-with-Ky-native-who-represented-Casey-Anthony-125374733.html
http://www.lex18.com/news/at-11-kentucky-connection-to-casey-anthony
“When she first got involved, my eyes kind of grew large and I thought this is really going to be a difficult case,” said Benham Sims, brother of Dorothy Clay Sims, defense attorney for Casey Anthony.
Benham Sims is a Louisville attorney and watched the Casey Anthony case very closely. “They had a close up of Dotty and Casey and you could see both of them breathing heavily, and you could see Dotty was finding it hard to swallow,” said Sims. That was verdict day. It would be a not guilty verdict that sent shockwaves across the country.
http://www.whas11.com/news/local/Granddaughter-of-former-Ky-congressman-on-Casey-Anthony-defense-team-125098009.html
http://kyprogress.blogspot.com/2011/11/kentucky-goes-crazy-for-casey-anthony.html
I think I may have hit pay-dirt!
http://www.wave3.com/story/15096109/jeff-ruby-takes-out-ad-against-casey-anthony
Posted: Jul 17, 2011 6:42 PM CDT
Updated: Jul 17, 2011 6:44 PM CDT
By Elizabeth Donatelli – email
ORLANDO, FL (WAVE) – Restaurant owner Jeff Ruby took out a half page ad in the Orlando Sentinel over the weekend criticizing the Casey Anthony verdict.
Ruby kept it short and simple — writing the words “unreasonable doubt” and “Orlando justice” focusing on the “O” and the “J.”
Several years ago Ruby famously kicked-out OJ Simpson from eating in his Louisville restaurant Jeff Ruby’s during Derby week — saying he felt justice was not served.
Ruby says it hits close to home because he suffered personally from a homicide.
“I’ve been upset ever since my wife’s little brother was murdered,” said Ruby. “He was like a son to me, sat through that trial in ’93 and listen to a lawyer lie about that murder.”
Ruby would not say how much he paid to place the ad.
Man, this guy really hates Casey
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/morning_call/2011/08/jeff-ruby-banned-from-bagel-shop.html
http://www.fox19.com/story/15119140/jeff-ruby-to-run-three-more-ads
Ruby would not say how much he paid for the ad.
“You can call any paper and they tell you how much a half page costs,” Ruby said.
We did.
The Orlando Sentinel wouldn’t tell FOX19 the price of Ruby’s ad. Sally Gibbons, a general advertisement and sales representative for the Orlando Sentinel, said the general price of a half-page, black and white advertisement, running on a Saturday in the newspaper costs $24,381.
Gibbons said prices do vary.
As far as the advertisements that are running on Thursday, Ruby would only tell FOX19 that they are completely different than the one that ran on Saturday. He said the new ads are not about the verdict, and are all positive ads that are aimed at trying to ensure something positive comes out of this situation.
HEY! You might be right, in fact I think it makes perfect sense that he would send her a camera. But, lets not broadcast his name. I wouldn’t want him to be harassed or hurt by these haters.
LOL! Well I’m thinking that the sender had intentions from the beginning, but yeah…JB….edit the above….(Looks side to side)
8)
LMAO HGM! I sent u some DMs on Twitter
New tweet by Brianne
http://briannechantal.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/its-like-a-freakin-david-lynch-movie/ OMG!
Tweet from DrFessel
Cheney Mason bribing a judge? I don’t know but it doesn’t look good.
http://t.co/y2H4Zsqy
Good Afternoon everyone,
Zuben,
Your comment Submitted on 2012/01/17 at 11:15 am “An update on the appeal from the 5th district court… ”
Very helpful, thank you.
Ok, can someone please explain it to me? LOL
Thanks, JB. HGM, if you are talking about the appeal court docket, there is another extension of time to file the records and I think it is because they are still waiting on the records for the trial and sentencing.
Is this why the name GUZMAN sounds familiar?
UPDATED Official State Witness List – add references to who the people are – only (2) unknowns – Lynn Gibson and Stacy GUZMAN, as of June 30, 2010.
(130) Stacy Guzman – (?) possibly Sawgrass Apts? – added March 23, 2009
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8205.0;wap2
This person, Jan, Janet, is 38, married to Rogelio and lives in Port Charlotte. Now, the email listed is funny, scrumdiddlyumpsious@hotmail.com LOL! A search for this email comes up empty in google. But, I remember looking up the whois info on this website, supposedly belonging to Holly and Jon Briley before and it was not Guzman that had it registered. My mind is blank on what the name is right now. Was it Francisco? But I’m thinking all one would have to do is go into their control panel and change the contact information. They could insert any name they wanted. No one validates any of this information. As long as the registrar and host gets paid, that is all they care about. Just out of curiosity, I searched the phone number listed. It comes up as the fax number for Talkbox in Murdock, Fl. Anyone hear of it before? The fax for nomoneyformurder is the phone number for Talkbox. The listing says it is a U.S. government contractor company in Murdock, Charlotte, Florida, belongs to Telephone Equipment & Supplies, Surgical Appliance and Supplies Manufacturing industry, owner Bill Cowell. But their DBA expired long ago. White pages gives the number currently to Jan Majkut, another name connected to Jan Guzman. It shows a different middle initial though, P instead of M for Marie. So, I searched for this name and found his obituary. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ctpost/obituary.aspx?n=jan-paul-majkut&pid=148814337 Jan P is the husband of Jan M and father of Jan M, the daughter. You’ll see many with the name Guzman and Majkut, also spelled Maykut. They come from Connecticut.
http://operationshameful.blogspot.com/2011/09/wall-of-shame.html
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There are too many losers online who think that it is okay to make death threats against an individual and think that they can get away with it. It is high time that these people are publicly shamed for their behavior and their names and identities made public. Everything about them is going to be posted ; just like they do to Casey Anthony. NO ONE should be acting the way these people are and we are going to make them famous. Isn’t that what they want? Recognition?
High5 to the owner of this blog LOL!!
Addie…thanks for sharing. I loved reading that blog.
LOL I LOVE it!
I deactivated my twitter account after reading the info at that website.
theoriesofcayleeanthonydeath.com
My twitter name was listed and then at the bottom was my ipnumber, city and state. That is too close for comfort.
NTS i just had that happen and did the same
Hey Everyone,
Just found a minute to relax…
NTS,
I’m glad you did that. They’re animals.
Speaking of animals, Jess the Mess emailed me the same link, only she decided to add my name at the bottom of her own CUT & PASTE version of the same site where she added my name with a her own moronic drivel. Ha! I kid you not. lol Too funny.
Oh brother!! NTS and Addie, that’s why I now have my tweets set to private. Only those who follow me can read them.
JB….Jess thinks she’s so clever. What a moron!! It would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic. These lunatics are legitimately insane…..and I’m NOT kidding!
Hello Everyone! Wanted to say hello before I go to catch up! Hope all are doing Wonderful. Those calling it a nite, Prayers for peaceful rest. Be heading there soon but wanted to catch up first! Hugs
Didnt know if anyone else saw this. Sorry if repeat:
Judge rules Casey Anthony must answer some Texas Equusearch questions
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:11 PM
Texas EquuSearch’s Questions (PDF)
Judge’s Order Compelling Casey Anthony to answer 2 “Admissions” (PDF)
ORLANDO —
Casey Anthony will have to answer two questions for Texas EquuSearch. Just two.
Judge Lisa Munyon ruled Tuesday that Anthony was still entitled to invoke the Fifth Amendment on many of the questions Texas EquuSearch wants to ask her as part of their lawsuit. The group is suing Anthony. They contend she wasted their money and resources because they say she knew all along her daughter was dead.
The judge did rule, however, that Anthony could be compelled to answer two “admissions”:
Admit that you did not observe or hear George Anthony call 911 at any time to report that he or you had discovered that Caylee Marie Anthony had drowned in the swimming poll at your parents’ house on or about June 16, 2008.
Admit that you were aware in September 2008 and October 2008 that EquuSearch was conducting searches for your daughter, Caylee.
She has 10 days to provide answers to these admissions.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2012/january/370998?cmpid=twitter
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Why is there a #caseyanthony preceding you ask? Judge Munyon wants extra info re: equusearch case on why Casey should b allowed take the 5th
15 hours ago
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Attorneys Charles Greene, Cheney Mason and Lisabeth Fryer were the only ones to speak with the Judge. #caseyanthony
15 hours ago
Casey should defy the order and not answer any question at all. The only possible consequence would be a cost or fine and she is indigent as far as the court is concerned, and the threat of short-term incarceration is no threat either after she said locked up for years prior before the prosecution-team failed in their efforts at tax-payers expense. And, I believe the state of Florida owes her hugely on the incarceration part because it is one thing to be locked up for awhile then to find out the prosecution could not even prove their forensic-fantasy case against her, but to be locked up for years facing the death penalty is just plain egregious.
Jan,
If Casey can do that I hope that her lawyers advise. I agree with you 100%. Casey was locked up for what?? Three years. THey said she lied. She also paid larger than anyone else for that. THey should lock the rest of them up for lying, if they want to play that way.
I’m so damn disgusted with the way they are treating her, LIKE she owes them. She doesn’t owe them a thing. If anything they owe her.
And for as the sickos that say they can’t sleep, they’re depressed, they whole life has crumbled because she wasn’t found guilty???? AND they say she needs meds or that we do. Something is terribly wrong with these people. I think that they are the kind that constantly want caos in the world and if it isn’t happening they are having nightmares. These whatever they are are the ones that seriously need to see a doctor bad. I wonder what the doctor would tell them. Listening to their BS for an hour because there is no help for them. REALLY, their family life must be just miserable.
Hi Mimi,
I know it’s late. LOL
!:24 and I want to say hi at least before going to bed.
Thought I’d drop by before going to bed.
I hope that everyone is doing good.
Jan, sure glad your here! : )
I didn’t know that there’s a chance Casey could defy them. Hope she does
Good night all : )
Hello my SWEET LOLY!!!!! Been reading and fixing to call it quits. Hugs my dear! Hello you too JanCorey! Doing good, and thanks for asking. Take care and Stay warm! Loly are yall getting any cool weather? My aunts and uncles who live in the FT Worth and Cleburn area say turned cool. We have had wonderful weather, gonna be cold Wednesday but was high 71 for Tuesday and low supp to be 26!! Saying goes here, If ya dont like the weather, hang around will change soon. OK, snuggling in and gonna rest my eyes as my grandson says!
Hugs, Mimi
Diane Dimmond has a new article out. One ofthe best parts of it was this comment left underneath:
StephanPickering16 Minutes AgoWhat must be stressed is that there is no evidence, NONE, that Ms Anthony abused, neglected, or murdered her daughter. There is no DNA, no fingerprints, eyewitnesses. There is no legitimate forensic science. The three pieces of Henkel brand duct tape had no Anthony family DNA or fingerprints, and it is was the testimony of one forensic scientist the duct tape had, in fact, been planted on the skeleton later to keep the child’s jaw in situ. The one, dime-sized piece of duct tape which allegedly had ‘heart-shaped’ residue on it was destroyed during FBI testing, and never photographed. Memory of the residue is not admissible evidence, but hearsay. The single 9″ long hair fragment found in the trunk of Ms Anthony’s car cannot be identified. ‘Smell’ is not a science, and there is NO evidence to prove a child’s body had decomposed in the car trunk. Moreover, witnesses testified Ms Anthony was a marvellous mother. What exists are hysterical, Victorian posturings by the Queen of Grief Porn and her fascist acolytes who, on television, want a live broadcast of Ms Anthony being drawn-and-quartered, then burned at the stake wrapped in the Constitution they detest. They WANT her guilty, always displaying the failing covalent bonds of their lesion-damaged brain tissue. In fact, Ms Anthony is INNOCENT…and this incontrovertible fact drives them into apoplexy. She was saved from state-sanctioned murder by a formidable defense team, who were continually slandered by mediasaurs and their type writers — Jose Baez, Cheney Mason, Linda Baden, Rosalie Bolin, Ann Finnell, Lisabeth Fryer, Dorothy Clay Sims, among others. To Ms Anthony, I say: kol tuv uv’racha…may you be blessed with all that is good.
STEPHAN PICKERING / Chofetz Chayim benAvraham http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/18/is-casey-anthony-hiding-in-palm-city-florida.html
HGM @ 3:51 – I have read some of Ms. Dimmond’s pieces at the Daily Beast, but not about Casey Anthony. She did not impress me with the other articles so I can just imagine how she handles this saga. I will read it, but probably wish I didn’t. I can easily picture her as another media whore trying to make a name for herself by spouting the popular opinion and railing against Casey while trampling over the remains of a dead little girl. JMO, of course.
What’s with these people expecting to sue Casey and her to admit their whole case for them? Don’t they know it is up to them to prove their case, not the defendant? Here is the TES list of hopeful admissions http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/casey-equusearch-interrogatories.pdf and here are the two out of 15 the judge said she must answer within 10 days. http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/casey-equusearch-judge-order.pdf Shouldn’t be too difficult.
Amelia participated in the blackout, was told by Bri she should make it permanent, then the page disappeared right after promising more pics, then came back up with an egg and private. Another ploy to get attention. Curiosity killed the cat, they say. One thing I’ve learned about cats though, they only want attention when they want it and the way they want it. If you try to pet them when it isn’t on their terms they run away.
Hi HollyGmom,
I’m happy you brought Stephan Pickering’s comment here. I have another one of his comments from OS that I’ve posted here too. He has a excellent way with words, doesn’t he. Bravo for him! Perfectly stated.
Thanks Zuben for the update and links, Questions 5 and 15 huh? No, it shouldn’t be too hard.
Let’s see..
#5 Admit that you did not observe or hear George Anthony call 911 at any time to report that he or you had discovered that Caylee Marie Anthony had drowned in the swimming pool at your parents’ house on or about June 16, 2008.
#15 Admit you were aware in September 2008 and October 2008 that EquuSearch was conducting searches for your daughter.
Hmm..not really questions but anyway…More like affirm a statement. It’s funny how M&M try to garner information..I guess that’s the way it’s done. IDK
Bri said she should make it permanent..lol Yes, total attention seeking behavior. That’s true about cats too.
I agree with your opinion Yellow Dog. I think it’s cool that Stephan chose that site to leave his powerful comments. Good for him.
Answer #1 no. Answer #2 yes. Everybody can answer those! How do I get on the protected just us page?
Why doesnt M&M call George Anthony and put him on the spot and grill him about the 16th….
noooooooo, of course not. Why should George have to be on the hotseat? HE’s a wittle wittle
baby boy, cant hack it ,,,booohoooooo
lol..GCG,
Remember George lawyered up.. Hmm uh huh, I wonder why.
I would also like to be on the just us page if that’s ok. Fox Orlando 35 is tweeting they think they know where Casey is and they are off to find her…unfreaking believable.
I think he lawyered up because Cindy threatened to stop paying for his testosterone scripts…..
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hehehe..good one!
jb
GCG….Haha, he really is a pathetic little man isn’t he?
Jill,, you’re being too kind….LOL
Orlando Law Enforcement befriended George right off the bat. He doesn’t have to account where (or if) he was working, his cell records or anything. These people ssssooo rushed to justice!! If they would have just done a proper investingation…I don’t think it would have been Casey on trial…JMO
I agree with you Karen. There are just as many crimimals in the “Blue” organization as there are in the general public. Worse, they are protected by each other.
I saw a tweet the other day by Richard Hornsby that he was headed to Post St. Lucy to go “Casey Hunting”. SICK – these people like him and Diane Dimond are making a living off of this dear baby and feeding these sick sociopaths what they want to hear. Do they even read the comments by these sick people? Do they measure the success of their article by the frenzy they whip these people into? What will be their “commentary” when one of their followers truly does hurt someone? Is there no responsibility in journalism anymore? Guess not!
Hi Noni and Karen,
I’m hoping it’s a ploy. I hope they meaning all of the felons follow Rich Hornsby to St. Lucie and the FBI walks out of the house, pats all of them down for weapons.
I know, it’s just wishful thinking on my part but why do they want to find Casey? What are they going to do once they find her?
Spidergirl where are you? Havent seen you here in awhile, hoping all is going good your way! HUGS!!!!
These nobody proclaimed judges will not do one thing if they find her. All they want is to just keep fanning the flame to keep themselves warm and giddy. THEY will be as guilty as anyone who may quietly come upon Casey and harm her. THEY will walk away like the kind of whimpering hungry animals they are, claiming innocence while they sell her bones for any dollar they can get out of interviews and acknowledgement while pretending they NEVER wanted THAT to happen. Yes they do, but they don’t want to be found guilty. Can you believe, they will want to be ACQUITTED of THEIR crime, one as deadly as they accuse Casey of. THEY have the INTENT to do harm. THEY are premeditating and suggesting to someone out there to go do the job for them. THEY are using others as a tool in THEIR desire to have Casey dead, murdered. That is exactly how I read them, but watch them scatter if it does happen. Spineless sneaks!
There is a part of me that just cannot wait until the day when a hater confronts Casey Anthony in public and threatens her life and is then gunned down by her protection-team for protecting Casey from the threat of harm. Casey will then win the lawsuits ensued against her from that scenario and the haters will be infuriated even more than today.
RichardHornsbyRichard Hornsby
Going #CaseyAnthony spotting, my paparazzi pics will go to highest bidder! @AmyPavukOS @bobkealing @stevehelling http://pic.twitter.com/vfbCxiKV
14 Jan
He’s kidding, right?
Would we call ‘Where’s Casey?’ (Waldo) the 3rd ring of the 3 ring circus? The investigation with the media bias-hype would be ring 1 with the trial the 2nd ring showing. Bring on the clowns. http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2012/01/19/where-is-casey-anthony-spotlight-shines-on-heavily-guarded-palm-city-church/
Neither the pastor or LE deserve this nonsense. I think her PO needs to let her off now so she can disappear, then they can announce she is gone.
JB, I would have loved to add a pic of a clown in this image. Might you consider adding this plugin I found when looking to see if there was a code I could use. This plugin will give us that option. http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-comment-images/
Video at this link showing at least one clown looks at her like a pedophile that needs to be tracked and barred from living near children http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_martin_county/palm_city/casey-anthony-reportedly-taking-refuge-at-the-cross-church-in-palm-city It’s the most viewed story at the local cbs news site. The pic they have doesn’t appear to me to be her. http://www.cbs12.com/news/city-4738175-palm-fla.html Wesh has been hounding this poor pastor: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/30247932/detail.html Hal the Pal clown at the OS blames Casey for taking attention away from Jennifer Kesse and Michelle Parker, still missing, but doesn’t he realize it is him, his boss and professional peers that are doing that? I guess he’s the court jester, the fool in the court of public opinion.
Oh Zuben,
I am sick to my stomach at this moment. This is nonsense. No one should be able to “stalk” another US citizen for whatever reason. If this is legal than why shouldn’t people be able to pitch a tent in front of known registered sex offenders or other acquitted or recently released prisoners?
She’s not a sex offender. Her only crimes are writing bad checks and lying to LE which neither are violent. I don’t get it. I don’t understand.
How dare Hal say Casey is stealing Jennifer Kesse’s thunder! He hasn’t written an article in the past 3 years that didn’t have her name in it except for his TV show BS.
Not to insult the good people of Florida because I’ve met some very nice ppl there but I have to say many of them were grifters.
I don’t see this happening in New Orleans. Do you think this would happen in your city?
And yes, of course I’ll add the plug-in, or at least I’ll try. lol, you know..I’m not that techie.
I’ll see if I can do it now.
Thanks for keeping us posted. God I’m praying that someone doesn’t hurt her. This isn’t right.
Zuben,
I’m having a problem adding the plug-in. If you think you can help please leave info in “just us”
TIA
You’re quite welcome, JB. I so agree. Here’s a video of the footage the window shot came from. It does look more like her and if true that she was seen leaving in the back seat of a car with escort, she is being forced to relocate. The video has more clowns bragging their right to have her evicted from their neighborhood. The woman doesn’t have a look of concern at all. It is more like a smug indignation smirk. http://www.cbs12.com/articles/city-4738175-palm-fla.html#ixzz1jujDPR9F
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Well, that didn’t work. Sorry, thought I had one that we could use ourselves.
Aww..wouldn’t you know it Zub, my theme isn’t plug-in ready. I read that not all themes have plug-in option. Bummer…
I’m always shopping for a new theme but always come back to this one. lol.. :sigh:
But I really like that option! Hmm…next time I go theme shopping, I’m going to look for that.
I just saw “Murt” is using this theme too. As a matter of fact, is blog now looks identical to mine.
grrr…these people just don’t have any originality.
I think that is Casey in that picture too…her hair is just a little longer. I used to wear my hair in a bob too, so I know you have to keep it styled and trimmed often to keep its shape. Maybe she was between haircuts..lol
I wonder what can be done about this? I think it’s time for the DOC to pull that stupid probation and let this girl get the heck out of Dogde. I see a HUGE lawsuit is Casey is hurt by one of these Nazis because the media is putting her life in jeopardy. Hmm…
Well maybe when local LE gets tired of wasting man hours protecting her, they’ll do something, like arresting people. Just a thought because I know there’s a crime in this somewhere..
So, she is living in a church, and perhaps building a relationship with God. What is wrong with that? What do these people want?
As a Christian, I am appalled at the behavior of other “christians” towards KC. Guess we all could use a good sermon about the woman at the well…and what Jesus had to say to those that wanted to stone her. These people showing up on these videos telling KC to “get out” disgust me. God help them if they are ever wrongly accused! They act like KC is a serial killer…don’t they KNOW there are others in their midst who are a LOT more dangerous than KC? Wow…the stupidity is at an all time high!
I wonder if Pastor Camp will lose his job and I wonder if Jerry Lyons will have to find another church.
The fact that one of the private investigators offer his help with his church to kc, gives me confidence that he was not just a hired gun, but one that thoroughly investigated and believes in kc’s innocence.
Kieth Albow basically saying there is no way kc could have made up the stuff in those depositions. He has been studying abused victims for 15years and kc fits the bill . You can’t make certain things up. I got the link off of websleuths news thread.
I would like to see Orlando Media go out and ask a few doctos opinions. We already know Jeffs opinion.
Wow!, all I can say is Wow! http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/what-casey-anthonys-psychiatry-records-tell-us-did-casey-really-kill-caylee/
Much more at the link.
What I see is a bunch of self-righteous morons who are deflecting their own guilt onto KC. WTF?
I haven’t seen one of them that can come up with an intelligent comment to say to the press they so profoundly crave.
JB Concerning your blog style, Keep in mind mimicry is the most sincere form of flattery.
Zuben: Thank you so much for posting the article. I so much want to hear other professional opinions. I wonder if they video taped their interviews with her.
Zuben @ 2:24 – Wow is right. I am going to read at that link now. Again, wow!
Tks for the Ablow link. I read his “Inside the Mind of Casey Anthony.” It sounds in the book like he’s trying to express his beliefs about her situation and , on the other hand, keep a look out for law suits from the “grieving”grandfather. Here he can’t stand it anymore and says what he really thinks. JB, during the time she was acquitted you had your terrific tribute “Independence Day.” Thanks again for that and having this website.
Zuben @ 2:24
I left some comments on that article…and have to say…I’m not wasting my time anymore. Those people are still spouting off “overwhelming levels of chloroform” found in the trunk, duct tape “over the nose and mouth” and the hair that had the “death banding” on it. They KNOW Casey Anthony is a baby killer and there is nothing more to say. From what they say, they KNOW way more than Dr. Keith Ablow!!! Man, o man…if we could ALL be as smart as these people who want Casey dead! I say we just get rid of the jury system now…we’ll just get them to come in and judge everyone…because, by God, they watched the entire trial and that girl is a baby killer and George had absolutely nothing to do with it…and he ought to sue everyone who says otherwise!
OK…in short, that is their argument. I’m so glad they enlightened me! (sarcasm)
If I were the name calling type of person…I’d call them all idiots…oh, what the heck…they are idiots!
Jill, I totally agree with you about the idiots! And how can they claim they watched the entire trial and still be talking about evidence that was clearly debunked? Maybe they watched it but didn’t hear it!
They know more than anybody else does, and they won’t admit when they are wrong about anything. I like to “troll” facebook pages and read the stupid comments they post. My favorite one yesterday was George’s suicide attempt was all dreamed up by the defense team (for what reason? they never said) and the whole Anthony family was in on it. And they said that it is a FACT (yes in caps). They don’t have opinions anymore…everything they say is now fact.
Scatzen, your welcome. Interesting name, by the way. I haven’t read his book but the write ups on it left me thinking he was saying she was a guilty liar, although written a little more professionally and descrete than other authors. But, I was reading a summary filtered through that type of mind so maybe they picked and chose what they shared about the book. Not surprising. As I read this article written by him I had the impression reading the depos turned him around and the article was a way to save face. Now I want to read the book so I can get a clearer understanding of him. Or you can give me a summary. I trust your judgment more than the media’s and the bloggers out side of the mission. No matter what, though, I give him respect for having the courage to write this, given all the hate that will now be thrown his way.
Jill, I just read your comments. Good for you. Yes, yada, yada, yada, more of the same over there.
Zuben and Karen…they are like rabid dogs! Did you see one of them said that Caylee was seen ALIVE at a Wal-Mart on the 16th. Did I miss something, because I heard that as a RUMOR…but I don’t think it was brought up in trial! There really is no sense in arguing with them though.
I just can’t see how this seeking out Casey and “protesting” at the church, when you know she has credible death threats to her, isn’t considered stalking. I would just love to see some of them get their butts thrown in jail!!!
Do you think Mason would talk to Casarez at HLN? According to this article he told her that Baez was finished with the case on the day of sentencing and that Casey won’t consider anything until after probation and appeal are completed. It appears these are fantasy deals, which does fit with my research. I can’t find any listing for the one company at all and all the attorneys involved are personal injury attorneys. The Florida attorney hasn’t even completed his website and the addy he has listed in the letter is redirected to his other domain name. I guess he can’t remember which he wants to use. http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/01/19/casey-anthony-millionaire
Hello!!
Here’s my opinion! : )
THese people are not only idiots, they’re dumb, stupid and the most ignorant and dangerous kind in the world. GET UP OUT of bed to go by the church??? THe preacher didn’t deny it, he just said get off of the property. IF they didn’t get off of the property, why didn’t he call and have the arrested. THIS on CBS too? Reporters and journalist have gone so low, it’s hard to imagine.
IMO, Casey wouldn’t stay anywhere that had over 10 people, (maybe) because you can’t
trust crazy, idiot people, AND they are everywhere.
The CHURCH will have MORE attendants Sunday than ever before. Just a commercial! BIG unpaid commercial. THat’s my opinion on that.
These people are dangerous stalkers, like Jill said and they should have them put in a paddy wagon for stalking and trespassing.
I don’t think for a minute that the internet should be censored, but any threats on here should be taken seriously.
How many people look like Casey?
THey want to kill someone that looks like her?
Something is damn wrong that they’ve let this go this far, even threatening the jurors?
Who is going to stop this CRAZY mob?
The people saying where she shouldn’t live, what kind of fools are they.
Are they working OR are at home getting unemployment, then running where they think Casey may be?
This has gone past insane and you know, I remember when several of the talking heads said they couldn’t say anything about the lawyer Howard Stern OR they would be sued, but this is wide open. They LIE all day long about this case, SO I think Casey, the defense team and the jurors should sue the hell out of the talking heads and the stations.
This is not freedom! I’m sick of it! All my opinion!
Lolypop, I’ve been reading some comments on some of the hate site and there are several people begging someone to shoot her, take her out in what ever way they can. All it takes is some unstable person with a very low self esteem that sees this as his/her path to selfhood, something to be praised for. I have no doubt that Casey’s life is in danger. I wish I had some way to help her.
If they found here where are all the pictures from those so called witnessess to her being at that church? LOL
Everyone has cell phones nowadays so i’m sure by now we would be seeing them posted
Typo ” IF they found her”
Its not so much that they found her, and I am not sure they did, but that the lynchmob went blood thirsty the second they reported it. People are calling for her head and I can only hope that LE is watching the news blogs. Some nuthead is going to take them serious and try to become their hero.
That is an interesting take that perhasp KA is trying to avoid a lawsuit from GA by being careful what he says. I wonder what kind of message Lippman sends through the underground.
I know that I’ve said it before on here, BUT I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been mistaken for someone else. PLUS, they were sure I had to be wrong. That was one of the most WRONG stupid CALL Perry made for Casey to do another year of probation. OH, and I guess anyone in Florida can sue her just to keep her there for the rest of her life.
Tim Miller needs his $$$ kicked and what happened to LP and ZG?
I think Tim has stooped as low as he could possibly go too.
What about all of the girls that look like Casey??? Are they going to sue her like ZG. Same thing.
You would think that these people need to DO something.
How many are missing while Tim Miller is spending his time sueing someone?
Someone should have sued him for Donna Brock.
It’s gotten to where missing is a business. People that have the business to them it no longer is searching, it’s just a business.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/01/wheres-casey-anthony-its-no-use-asking-jose-baez.html
Did you all see this yet?
BTW….Hello everyone!!
Jill, I agree with you about the so-called “christians” who are promoting hate. Nothing about that in the Bible I read! The Jesus who is my savior preached love….not hate. He taught to turn the other cheek, and reward evil with good. The apostle John says in 1 John 3:15, “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.” Guess that about sums it up. Those people who hide behind a “christian mantra” and then spew hate must not be reading the same scripture I read. But I don’t believe them to be christians at all. Why, some may ask? Well, my Bible tells me in the 7th chapter of Matthew, verse 16, “Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?” And what fruit should christians be bearing? Well, Galatians 5: 22-25 answers that, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.” Strangely, I’m not seeing any of these “fruit of the Spirit” manifest itself in these spewers of hatred and seekers of revenge…..are you?
My Bible also tells me that those that are led by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God (Romans 8:14)…..and a person CAN NOT be allowing God’s Spirit to lead them if they are promoting hatred for any one! As far as their flaming desire for revenge……well, the Bible covers that one too…..Romans 12: 19-21 should clear it all up for those who are stalking Casey and wishing harm on her.
You know, I find it reprehensible that people would stalk her to a church. I do NOT care what religious affiliation or background or doctrine a person claims…….you have NO RIGHT to harrass a church who is trying to fulfil the mandate that God gives to all christians!!!!!
I do not believe in karma….but I do believe in the law of reaping and sewing. The Bible says in Galatians, chapter 6, verses 7-8, “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.” So for all of those people out there sewing hatred and death wishes…….I’d strongly encourage you to reconsider the seed you’re planting because it’s going to come back at you in a hefty harvest.
Ok….sermon over. I apologize for being “preachy” and I’m not trying to force my beliefs onto anyone. It just angers me that people would call themselves christians and then go as far as to cause problems at a church who is allegedly trying to help Casey (or anyone for that matter). Maybe if everyone would adopt the golden rule….whether you’re christian or not……the world would be a better place to live.
Oh yeah….I forgot to address the link I put in my last comment. It’s a link to an article which states that Cheney Mason confirms that Baez is no longer representing Casey Anthony. He says that the minute the verdict was read, Baez’s job was over. Mason and Fryer are handling Casey’s appeal. That makes perfect sense. We’ve said it here too!! Why are people so small minded that they just don’t “GET IT”??? How many of you have ever paid an attorney to represent you in a matter (or for that matter, been appointed a free attorney by the court) and then once that matter is resolved in court, KEPT ON BEING REPRESENTED BY THAT LAWYER???????? Uhhhh Duhhhhhh.
The talking heads and the pseudo-journalists have tried to spin this as some grand falling-out between Casey and Jose…..but it has nothing to do with any of that. It has to do with the fact that Jose spent 3 years working for free to defend Casey….and once that not guilty verdict came in, his job was finished! That doesn’t mean they’re not friends. Doesn’t end his concern for her. It simply means he has a life to get on with….bills to pay, cases to defend. He’s not her PR person, nor a booking agent. Folks need to get OVER IT.
You just can’t fix stupid!!! These people are getting out of hand. When will the authorities step in and put a stop to this??
Hello FLCoyote! ITA.
Where did everyone go???
Omar, the law of karma is the same as the law of reaping what we sow and is described quite well in Newton’s physical law of motion, especially the third part. For every action there is an equal and opposite but complimentary reaction. Actually, if you think about it, each of the 3 laws of motion can describe the affect of what we sow and the effect of what we reap that is it’s compliment. From Wiki,
First law: The velocity of a body remains constant unless the body is acted upon by an external force.
Second law: The acceleration a of a body is parallel and directly proportional to the net force F and inversely proportional to the mass m, i.e., F = ma.
Third law: The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear.
Think about the masses that are acting as an external force to harass Casey and others. Now, that isn’t necessarily reaping what was sown but some will say that she has it coming to her, calling it bad karma or helping karma along. Some teach that anything that happens in our life is created by us but I don’t always see the evidence of that. Sometimes I think we attract some things simply to teach us so we can use that to help others. Of course, it could be that in another life we created the action and are now reaping the reaction or the results of what we have sown in the past. The only problem I have with that idea though, is how can we learn a lesson from it if we have no memory of doing what caused it? We would simply be left feeling like an innocent victim. Much to ponder.
Thanks for the link. It confirms what I read elsewhere. Have a great night all.
Amen Omar…amen!!!
oh everybody goes to bed so early around here. I am interested in what Cheney meant when he said any negotiations will happen after the probation and the appeal are done.
okay, what negotiations? is he saying that they may sell her story?
Eagle…I’m thinking some day she will do an interview or book. I think even many of the haters will secretly view or read it, if only so they can bitch about it!
Eagle….I think that what he’s doing is putting rumors to rest. Stories have been flying about offers for interviews, etc. and the haters have been on a rampage to make sure she doesn’t get paid for her story because, like the geniuses they prove themselves to be, the haters buy these pseudo-news stories hook, line and sinker. Since Mason has been handling this appeal ALL ALONG, he has KNOWN that until the appeal process is complete, Casey is best served by remaining silent on the issue. So for all the hype buyers and spin masters who put out stories about Casey firing Baez because he couldn’t land her a paid interview or whatever….Mason just refuted all of that garbage. ANY attorney would know that Casey wasn’t going to “tell her side of the story” to ANYONE before her appeal is complete. It’s common sense. Meanwhile, you have the www in a tither trying to say that Casey is an attention whore and secretly released her video diaries….and you had the reaction of the lunatic masses who were bent on seeing to it that she received no compensation (and for what it’s worth, they claim they want her to receive no attention, since, after all, they claim that’s the very thing she longs for). AND YET…..it’s not Mason or Casey keeping these stories in the news. It’s the talking heads, fake-psychologists, body language “experts”, self-proclaimed “Caylee Advocates”, and any other “I-want-my-ten-seconds-of-fame” sort of shysters who are, in fact, keeping Casey’s name in the news. So desperate, they are, that they track her down and harrass her relentlessly, and all the while, she’s just trying to hide and heal and wait for her appeal to be heard. Mason’s a pretty smart guy. Wonder how long it will take these brainiacs to realize that Mason just refuted all of their “Casey is shopping interviews” hype?
Eagle,
Quite scary to say the least knowing there’s a target on her back….JB has a good point! Where’s the FBI?
Thanks Omar for reminding me of how smart Cheney Mason is. I think it is funny that he gave them enough time to make complete fools out of themselves. I had a thought. They seemed to have lured many of the haters and their attentions to this church. They even had a Jerry Lyons or a look alike out there pounding in no tresspassing signs. Did it ever occur to them that once the Team Casey knows where the haters are, then they can keep an eye on them? So you simply create a decoy to lure them to one spot. I like it too that kc can watch from afar as the haters surround her so called compound. Has anyone been watching Todd’s airplane? Kc may at this point have permission to leave the state until things cool down. Hopefully next month they will end this probation period and let her move away from Florida.
Omar the haters wont realize mason just refuted their theories about an interview or offers because they only hear what they want to hear and take the truth and twist it so that it fits their sick demented thinking. I don’t have much hope for them…they’re not the brightest!
Eagle….great comment! I think you are correct. Lotsa people talking about karma (or whatever their word for it is)….but they don’t realize that it’s coming to bite them. HAHAHAHA!! They can’t say Mason didn’t warn them first!
Jill…sadly, you are also correct. There is no reasoning with unreasonable beings. Best to give them enough rope to hang themselves.
How do i setup a picture for my avatar?
Good Evening Folks!!!
Welcome Eagle!
Lolypop GREAT POSTS!!! Omar and Zuben and Jill and GCG and sorry if I missed anyone else. Great comments!!! Give your selves a pat on the back for paying good attention!!!
I am trying to change my gravatar at my email account. lol
This is really disturbing to me. I am scared for Casey’s safety, and for those around her. I.m not sure WHAT this Acquitted woman could possibly do to appease the haters. It won’t surprise me a bit if we see a low speed chase of helicopters , townspeople chanting with torches, and suspicion tainting anyone who might have had a hand in keeping her away from the “Justice” they thought was coming to her.
Anyone touching Casey in a violent or threatening manner should be punished as a hate crime.
And the perpetrator should be charged for their prosecution fees !
Fair is fair Right ?
Hi Akmimi!!!! (((HUGS)))
JFC….You are right! Fair is Fair.
Hi EVERYBODY!!
I think we FEAR the most. Where’s the FBI? Why should anyone be in danger? WE expect more than this and are not getting it. WTH???
Where are the ones that are supposed to protect Casey? What are they thinking?
I know that they wanted Casey guilty, but damn she is innocent.
I think I’ll answer my own question by asking another one. Where were they when the mob was running like the RUNNING from the bulls to the courthouse during trial. THat was insane and they did nothing.
Mimi and JFC, fair is fair. I so agree, but has there been anything fair about Casey, except the jurors and NOW they’re in danger?
I believe what happened is the mob was out of control, they wanted their way for the jury to find Casey guilty, they all NG, JA, the rest of the crybabies that asare supposed to believe in justice, vinnie Politan, then you had Mike Brooks saying yjr jurors drank the Casey kool-aid, which got the mob crazier and they actually had them on their side. Mad and agry ANND they really didn’t know what for, except the media kept it stirred up with the talkinhg (rebeels that want nothinhg but a war. I’m sorry, but I am furious that more isn/’t happening to prtrotect instead of harm someone.
GCG,
I don’t know about the FBI, that they even care. IMO, they don’t!
Eagle,
Is there a chance the probabtion will end next month? I hope it ends and they don’t tell anyone and then Casey can leave, BUT insanity from these haters will never end.
They will swear she’s in Floida and be stalking everyone that looks like her.
Does anyone know for certain if Casey Anthony can possess a gun legally? I hear some sites calling her a felon and I suspect a felon likely cannot possess a firearm in most states, just not quite sure.
Good evening everyone,
Eagle_on_the_Moon, FloridaCoyote, Welcome! JusticeForCasey, thanks for rejoining us.
Omar, I loved your biblical quotes. We all could use a good sermon sometimes. Your’s was really good. No matter what’s your religion, we all basically reap what we sow.
No matter how I look at this, its not right. Casey was found in a church for God’s sake. Not in a bar, not in a strip joint.. a place to worship. This speaks volumes to me, answering the question, as to WHO is truely evil.
JanCorey, she is a convicted felon due to the check charges, so she can not legally be in possession of or own a gun. Nor can she vote. I know that much.
AKM,
Wow, thanks for reminding me. That’s true. I believe after 5 years, she could have those charges expunged and I hope she does.
Florida Coyote Welcome! Ummm are you sure your a FLORIDA COYOTE? Jeffy ASSTON stated on the RECORD, in a televised trial that THERE ARENT ANY COYOTES IN FL !!!!
I believe you, MAYBE HE IS LIKE YURI MELICH< HE JUST MISSPOKE!!!! giggle giggle
JB I know here in Arkansas, you can request a pardon from the Gov to and if granted then all is well. Possibly has something to do with the charges. Unsure, I just remb seeing on diff things in the news. But then heck look what that outgoing GOV of Mississippi did! In all honesty, I would doubt that CASEY ANTHONY would EVER get it espunged! Just because. I think that stuff is suppose to be public knowledge and you know how that has worked out.
hi Lolypop,
I’m wondering, like Eagle, if this is a set up of some sort…like bait to lure in the rats? For all we know the FBI might be behind all of this. IIRC, it was the FBI that was questioning Orlando county’s shoddy work at the crime scene sooo IDK.
Arkie,
That’s my point. A felony isn’t always some horrid crime.
I know in LA, if you are convicted of a non-violent felony, that if after 5 years you have proven yourself to be a law abiding citizen that you could hire a lawyer and for a fee of $500 to $1,000,
it can be expunged. You’d be shocked by how many politicians and so forth have had expungements due to the 70′s and by the fact that possession of marijuana at one time was a felony. My best friend’s older brother was actually sent to prison in 1967 for possession of a matchbox of marijuana for 7 years on a 1st offense. This guy was our local icon because of this.
Actually, all it really does is remove it from view for potential employers in background checks.
The only ones that are privy to that info is LE and the FBI. I know here, after an expungement, you are allowed to vote and carry a gun and even run for office.
IDK, if Casey would ever be granted one..but Maybe if it goes in front of Judge Munyon, it could be??
So there’s hope. Who knows Casey might go on to law school. lol YaNeverKnow.. hahaha…
Thank you so very much for the clarification Arkansasmimi, much appreciated and thank you. Does that also mean she can not associate with a gun-carrying individual or individuals after her probation concludes in a few weeks?
I guess I speak before thinking some times. You’re right JB. They were the most trusted ones in this whole mess. Could be the same thing about all of the pictures and videos.
I feel maybe there is some hope. We aren’t supposed to know everything that they are doing. It’s their job. There are times I try and stay calm, then other times I just lose it.
I posted this at the wrong place. Just finding my way around.
I think I came to this site shortly after Casey was found innocent but I don’t normally visit non “mainstream” media type sites related to this case. I didn’t research who set it up, but it first appeared to mimic Jose Baez, so I gave it little credence at the time and moved on because I didn’t think he would have such a site. (That’s not a slam, just my impression at the time and I was focused on media outlets). I also went to a few others at the time but they were so horrific, I never went back. I am not a blogger and I have only commented on this case since the verdict and mainly at the Orlando Sentinel, where they call me a troll, and I assure everyone, I am not.
However, tonight, I saw something on the Orlando Sentinel about my user name that freaked me out so, I am posting this after seeing posts by nts here (I am surprised!), who, I think has also had some issues with the OS from reading some of her/his posts. I suppose I just want to say I saw a post of mine from the main comment boards reposted on hals blog from a hater. She was asking hal if he could help her out with my name and if he could “shed some light on it”. It was on 1.16.2012 if anyone is interested.
Anyhow, I am really mad, but I wanted anyone here who ever has any issues with the media, to know and to inquire if they know of others with similar issues. I hope someday Mr. Mason and Baez go after these media thugs and hold them responsible for the mess they created in this case and make Casey rich. She deserves it after all this.
Oh, and “Beyond the Hate” was a good piece. Thanks.
WOW some pretty interesting stuff on WS Legal site. http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141105&page=57
This was pretty interesting to me:
Quote:
Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
You mean she didn’t remember almost sitting down with Tim and almost putting an X on a spot for him until Cindy stopped her? That doesn’t make any sense to me at all.
She’s a felon liar – she can make as many excuses as she likes by telling another lie but I don’t think it will help at all – only make it worse for her situation. I don’t see this case getting thrown out – do you? So that would mean settlements if it doesn’t get to trial.
From AZLawyer:
Based on my recollection of the Complaint, the case could definitely get thrown out. I’m sure Casey’s lawyers will file a motion for summary judgment when the time is right. For one thing, it seems like most of TES’s communications were with Cindy and LE, not with Casey.
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JanCorey, I dont think association has anything to do with (maybe I will try to look up) but I just know from diff things I have read, that a felon can not be in POSSESSION or OWN a firearm. I was thinking that was a Federal law. I know things can get twisted, like her probation guidelines say she cant get overly drunk (paraphrasing) but it doesnt say she cant drink a drink. Also I forget the exact wording but it also doesnt say she cant be in the company of another felon, just cant be in the company of someone during the commission of a crime (paraphrasing) the haters just spew rehashed trash, as usual.
That WS Legal thread was pretty informative. Check it out if ya get a chance and havent. IMHO
Has anyone heard from Spidy lately? Missing ya girlie!
Mimi,
Since Casey didn’t talk to him, wouldn’t anything she said be hearsay?
This just doesn’t make sense. He isn’t sueing George and Cindy, right?
Mimi,
I think that I saw her but it was on Just Us, not sure!
How is Misty and did MWM ever get back after her computer was all messed up?
Thank you so very much Arkansasmimi.
@notthatsmart January 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm
WOW!
I just saw it. VERY stupid of someone. It’s so ironic, I can’t even say. Can’t believe I went there. I feel nasty now.
Something HAS to be done about the internet stalking and if a corporation can be a person then so can an IP, imo
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WOW! People are still up? Didn’t see it. Hi…I’m new, obviously. I just saw some scary things on the Orlando Sentinel and got led here somehow by a crazy stalker over there.
I saw notthatsmart here, who I have seen at the OS and just posted something that I now see, makes little sense. Sorry. NTS will get it I think. There are some crazy people out there …crazier than I thought.
Hoping COL is doing better… Missing you too sweetie. ADDDDIE where are you!
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January 19, 2012 at 2:45 am
Bravo!!!
JB, I soo agree. There has got to be a crime in this somewhere.
Eagle_on_the_Moon
January 19, 2012 at 11:47 am
Nice to meet you EotM. They want blood and lots of it.
Jill
January 19, 2012 at 11:54 am
Jill, I agree. I think we should pull some crime stats for that area including pedohile & predator records for that “Neighborhood”. I’m thinking there are people ACTUALLY CONVICTED OF CRIMES living there already.
ZubenElSchemali
January 19, 2012 at 2:24 pm
OMG Zuben! Thank you so much for bringing that over! As a survivor I recognized those very same things as the TRUTH! This is my passion for this case. I know in my heart that Casey was victimized by her father and it is the root cause for many if not all of her behaviors.
ZubenElSchemali
January 19, 2012 at 3:56 pm
His professional outrage rang out! Wooo! I could feel his disgust!
lolypop
January 19, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I know Loly. I was so outraged at Diane Dimond. POS!
Omar
January 19, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Preach it sister!! I’m serious! The hypocrisy is sickening.
Omar
January 19, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Yeahhhh!!!!
From the link provided:
but Kealing noted that the pastor tweeted last night, “Please pray for my family and I tonight.”
OMG! I am so disheartened by my fellow man and so lifted up by this Pastor & his family & congregation! I plan to contact them personally to tell them how much I appreciate them and their treatment of Casey, their Christian sister. They are HEROS in my eyes! I want to join the Save Casey Anthony Underground Railroad!!!
thejbmission
January 20, 2012 at 12:18 am
You know what really disgusts me JB? The fact that a church of all place is supposed to be a place of SANCUTARY!!!
sanctuary
noun
1. protection, shelter, refuge, haven, retreat, asylum Some of them have sought sanctuary in the church.
This link gives very detailed information on the Florida Courts Expungment process. From what I can see so far the only roadblock to expungment for the check charges (all of them
) is the SAO. If Jeffy gets in he’ll NEVER comply!
SOrry, I forgot the link : http://www.miami-criminal-lawyer.net/html/seal-expunge.html
Hey Mimi! Everyone!
I have been wondering about Delaney too! Miss ya girl! COL, Spidergirl, all our pals!!! Come on home, we miss you! LOL
HI HGM,
Yes, Diane D. Is just another NG wannabe! : )
WHY? There’s enough already.
Yes, a church should be a place of safety, but it isn’t anymore.
I know it’s sad, but true.
Some have been shot right in the middle of the people.
If they want you, they’ll get you.
I just wonder what happened.
You know, I’m sure there are some that thought Casey was guilty, but their lives have moved on. I really don’t know anyone that would wish harm to her or the jurors and most of them didn’t watch the whole trial. Just listened to the media.
WE can’t shut them up but isn’t there a responsibilty for them?
They remind me of the law that if someone is going to commit suicide and someone yells out jump, that person is held resposible. I hold ALL of the media responsible if anything happens to Casey, the Defense Team or the jurors!
Sorry, it shouldn’t be I HOLD them responsible, but they should
be held responsible by the FBI. What about a gag order? LMAO
THey couldn’t do it!
Welcome GOBHO4US,
Yes the crazies are running amok. Much crazier than all of us thought.
Please feel free to comment. Looking forward to it.
TheJBMission~
First of all … Casey should have been given time served on the probation issue… THAT was “signed, sealed , delivered” and should not have been questioned. If pressed , the probation department should have realized the inherent difficulty of Casey serving in any nearby area. But Florida is willing to let the citizens carry out vigilante justice to save Strickland and Ashton from embarassment . Florida wants vengeance, for a woman that has served more than the prescribed time as a first offender, and now is unsafe to be around hillbillies . There is Nothing Casey can do at this point to be safe.
If Casey could hear me now, I would tell her to continue with her photography talents , DON’T answer munyons 5-15 questions, and get out of FLA ASAP
That’s really sad GOBHo that they did that to you. I would be concerned too.
Well, I hope you figured out that this site isn’t affiliated with Jose Baez. Feel free to check my “about page”. This is my personal blog created just for the reason you described. The “mainstream” sites were horrid, not a place for me.
I just wanted a site to discuss the evidence, without the name calling. I started this site in March of 2010, practically alone. Since then there are several people here that like to discuss the Anthony case and how despicable she’s being treated. It seems like the acquittal meant nothing..
It’s a shame.
I don’t know why that poster asked Hal such a question? I would think he’s playing by the rules..at least I hope so. Hmmm…Interesting.
From Prinniefied about BringKidsHome & Caylee Memorial:
Stick a Brick In It http://wp.me/p1Afvk-7A via
Hey my sweet Lolypop! I sent Misty a message, I know she has been really busy with her family since she had that death in fam. I dont know when Hockey season runs lol or whatever its called, but I know she coaches or something like that. I just told her we miss and think of her and understand. I wonder about MWM too. Such a sweetie too. I have made some very special friendships here. I treasure each and every one of them too. As I know we all do!
Loly, I would think the hearsay too. Did you read any of that stuff on the WS Legal? It was pretty interesting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NavySubMom View Post
Munyons Order:
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic…udge-order.pdf
Plaintiff’s Request for Admissions and Interrogatories
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic…rogatories.pdf
I am wondering how Question #5 in the INTERROGATORIES on p. 5
“State the name, address and telephone number of the biological father of your daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony”
how does the above question, per Judge Munyons Order, indicate that this question would “provide a link in the chain of evidence at any retrial of the conviction currently on appeal” with regard to FCA’s assertion of her Fifth Amendment Privilege, since she disallowed it being asked of FCA.
As I recall, didn’t Judge Perry rule that in regards to GA/LA, even though JB asked the questions which he was NOT alllowed to ask about Caylee’s paternity, the questions were Objected by PT/Sustained by JP, but JB asked it anyway, about the FBI doing the DNA tests about who fathered Caylee…..
I am trying to figure out why this question is not allowed to be asked re: FCA’s Fifth Amendent rights in the TES suit. what “link” in what “chain of evidence” would this question be referreing to?
Thanks.
From AZLawyer Jan 19 2012 4:43
Good question. Let’s see, what were the lies she was convicted on?
1. Universal Studios employment;
2. Left Caylee at Sawgrass with ZFG;
3. Told Jeffrey MICHAEL Hopkins (not the other Jeffrey Hopkins) and Juliette Lewis about the kidnapping;
4. Received a call from Caylee July 15, 2008 around noon.
I don’t see how the identity of the father would have anything to do with any of this. I could certainly see sustaining an objection to this interrogatory on the grounds of RELEVANCE, but not on 5th Amendment grounds. But I have to assume, based on the order, that (during the closed-door meeting) (1) the TES lawyers somehow explained how the information would fit into their case, and then (2) Mason or his associate somehow explained how the information could be used to show that Casey intentionally lied about one of the four things listed above.
Exactly Mimi,
I feel the same way.
It’s been WONDERFUL for me!
I hope JB knows, because without her we wouldn’t have all met! : )
I feel so bad for Misty. I hope that coaching helps her give a little relief
for a time. I don’t know anything about Hockey or when it starts, but I imagine
she spends a lot of time with her team practicing.
Remember MWM had found something new and then her computer went out!
DARN! WE need all of the good news we can get, right?
I didn’t get to the website to read it. I guess I can’t get there, but it sound like either
TES or ZG’s suit could be thrown out because how can Casey testify what Cindy or George told him. You know?
LOLYPOP I thought this was interesting: We could only hope AZLawyer is right!
Quote:
Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
You mean she didn’t remember almost sitting down with Tim and almost putting an X on a spot for him until Cindy stopped her? That doesn’t make any sense to me at all.
She’s a felon liar – she can make as many excuses as she likes by telling another lie but I don’t think it will help at all – only make it worse for her situation. I don’t see this case getting thrown out – do you? So that would mean settlements if it doesn’t get to trial.
AZLawyer
Based on my recollection of the Complaint, the case could definitely get thrown out. I’m sure Casey’s lawyers will file a motion for summary judgment when the time is right. For one thing, it seems like most of TES’s communications were with Cindy and LE, not with Casey.
HGM,
That says a lot about bring kids home. I remember GEorge talking to Casey about that while she was in jail, instead of the subject of finding Caylee. What was Casey supposed to say? Dr. Phil gave them money for the show didn’t he to go to their “foundation”.
What a damn shame, using their Granddaughter like that. So, if Phil gave them the money it should go to some cause other than George’s. If they want to go by there and clean it up, that would be the thing to do, since they want so DESPERTLEY to do something. NOT just put other things there that will just bring more garbage and NO a cross shouldn’t be planted there either, IMO. WHY? THey have the necklace with them everyday that is part of Caylee. Why go to a very bad memory for her?
I saw on our evening news about a 12 YR old being charged with cyber bullying! This was in another part of our state http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/191339/2/Pre-teen-arrested-in-cyber-bullying-investigation
I would think some of the crap that has been stated about Casey, would surly qualify for cyber bullying too! IMHO
I agree Loly. AND that property if I understand correctly, is owned by someone ELSE! Well girlies and guys. gonna have to rest me eyes! Love it when we are here at same time
Prayers for Peaceful rest to you each and every one! HUGS, Mimi
Mimi,
I’m all messed up. : )
They’re saying that Casey sat down with Tim and was going to put an
X by the spot Caylee was?
Remind me who AZ is.
GOBHO4US
Before I go, just wanted to say WELCOME! Your with the greatest group you could ever wish to discuss with! Oh and I copied one of your comments on the last thread, so your name is familiar to me! Hope you didnt mind.
Lolypop, AZ is AZLawyer, a person who posts on Web Slueths Legal page. So they are prob leaning more to anti Casey on some things but some things were interesting to me and I just wanted to share. Sorry If I confused you or anyone else.
Oh no, Mimi,
You didn’t confuse me at all.
I have been confused about this whole thing and it doesn’t
take much. : )
I’ll read some more tomorrow too. lol
Gotta rest my eyes.
Give the baby a kiss!
G’night and sweet dreams!
Hi All….I am one of the regulars over at “Casey Anthony is innocent” & posted here a couple of times.I really have enjoyed all of your great comments.BUT….here lately I have been just SPEECHLESS not knowing WHAT to write with the ways Casey has been HUNTED like an animal! I think even some of them have more rights than her if they are endangered.Since I’m from Texas…can someone tell me what the STALKING LAWS are in Florida & WHY she can’t get an order of protection against the media? I know I must start to sound like the other IDIOTS…but there has to be SOMETHING that can be done without God forbid mess with their Freedom of Speech!! I am just so nervous about this CRAZY situation…I’ve NEVER seen anything like this in my whole life & I’m no spring chicken.I’m a Mom & Grandma of a recently college graduate Granddaughter.I just want Casey out of there! When she said something about getting released EARLY from probation & everyone had a fit,one of the talking heads said that alot were getting released from probation early for NON VIOLENT CRIMES…not just Casey.It is very well documented that she has death threats daily that the goverment is aware of…so I pray to God after all the BS at the church & hopefully they got her OUT of FLORIDA!!! Thanks Guys for letting me vent a little,Casey has come too far to be hurt anymore than she already has
Welcome GOBHO4US. This blog is named after JB’s best friend and momma, JB being her initials. It’s just a coincidence that she had the same initials as Baez. You’re among good company here.
Eagle on the Moon, love the name and makes me wonder if you have a Scorpio Moon like I do. I recently did some artwork, a design requested by a client for tat work she wanted done. It would make a wonderful gravitar so now you’ve got me thinking I should use it. But, it would go better with your ID than ZubenElSchemali so maybe I should consider allowing you to use it. It’s a full Moon with the eagle and scorpion morphing out of it and embracing it at the same time, sort of. I’d have to claim copyrights on it though, since it has commercial value and I like to have a roof over my head and eat. So does my son. Let me know if you’d like to see it, I can email a pic.
Pastor Camp’s blogspot http://stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/
http://www.killerrobotninja.com/our-new-church-home/
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D7525197&sa=U&ei=BWIZT_KWBpHCsQKsm5C7Cw&ved=0CCEQFjAGOBQ&usg=AFQjCNGtHpFf1YILUpJd6PDUrOv3Oe9LDQ
This is a WS “members only thread” I FN hate those sickos. JQ is just as bad. They are out to ptove that Pastor Camp doesn’t have a Theology degree. As if that would prove or change a thing. If he doesn’t havea degree I saw he doesn’t need one! He already exhibits all of the qualities a Christian & Pastor should!
Marilyn, welcome again. I agree, they need to get her off probation and give her a visa so she can leave Florida long behind her. As for media stalking, it looks like they can be held accountable too, in some cases. Of course, they can’t go on private property but it looks like they are protected under the law in Florida if they are invited to “ride along” by LE, which wouldn’t suprise me in this case. See http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida-intrusion-law Here is the 4 point test, linked on that page.
First, that the defendant, without authorization, must have intentionally invaded the private affairs of the plaintiff;
Second, the invasion must be offensive to a reasonable person;
Third, the matter that the defendant intruded upon must involve a private matter; and
Finally, the intrusion must have caused mental anguish or suffering to the plaintiff. See Restatement (Second) of Torts – Intrusion Upon Seclusion.
Go gettem Mason!
Well, isn’t this interesting, HGM. Was I a naughty girl to deserve this treatement from Tricia?
I believe as recent as a couple of weeks ago I accessed the members only forum so what’s up? Does anyone remember me saying anything that would cause this? Someone is definitely lurking here because I only post here. Obviously I ruffled some feathers.
Cancel my previous post. It must be the link or else they have just pulled the thread. I can access the private forums. HGM, what is the name of the thread?
From http://police.ufl.edu/csd/csd_safetytips_stalking.asp
STALKING
Florida Statutes define stalking as:
Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or harasses another person commits the offense of stalking. This is a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable by a maximum fine of $1000.00 and or 1 year in jail.
Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or harasses another, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in fear of death or bodily injury, has committed the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable by a maximum fine of $5000.00 and/or 5 years in state prison.
To “harass” means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.
The term “stalking” is commonly used to describe specific kinds of behavior directed at a particular person, such as harassing or threatening another person. Virtually any unwanted contact between a stalker and their victim which directly or indirectly communicates a threat or places the victim in fear can generally be referred to as stalking.
Seems to me what is happening to Casey is clearly stalking. I hope Cheney is taking down names.
Thanks so much for the responses! I am still looking into things, but I am VERY concerned about some medaia groups and their lack of professional standards.
Also, I hope I didn’t sound as though I wouldn’t post on a Jose Baez site, because I think he is great. I must have saw something when I first visited that made me think this was like a “justice4caylee” site. I see now I was wrong and thanks to an OS stalker, I ended up here through a twisted turn.
No, HAL is NOT playing by the rules. He’s a freak and I am determined, at this point, to prove it. He has NO clue what journalism is OR the law. He lied on his own blog and he and I BOTH know it. I am not affiliated with any group associated with this case but I have a particular interest in how media shapes public opinion.
Thanks SO much for the welcome, and, I’m not sure what you mean Arkansasmimi, but anyone can repost anything I post. No problem…besides, I have no say in it once it’s out there….something the haters need to learn–and fast.
I hope nts is ok. Casey will be fine in the end and will have a bella vita at some point. I think Mr Mason is on top of it all. I so admire him.
Good day all.
(I know this is harsh for being new and I don’t mind if you remove it…like I have a say in that either. I just think it’s unfair for major news organizations to cherry pick comments. Well, it is more than unfair if they are shaping public sentiment
BTW…I think HGM is on the site nts posted. Disgusting.)
GOBHO4US,
Good to see you. I have seen many of your posts on the OS site and want to say that you and a few others, including nts are a breath of fresh air on an otherwise very “smelly” site!! When I read you comments and your standing up to the “bullies” I want to stand up and cheer! That woman (I think) that calls herself KarmasGonnaGetCasey (or something like that) is something else. Too bad she doesn’t put all that energy into something productive.
Anyway…glad to see you here!
Off topic, but funny – A high profile corruption trial in Ohio is using puppets to recreate courtroom drama since cameras are barred from the courtroom. Can you just imagine a Jeff Ashton puppet jumping up and yelling “OBJECTION!” every five minutes? Here’s the link:
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/ap/december/372084/TV-covering-highprofile-Ohio-trial-with-puppets
GOBHO4US, the author of that page reminds me a lot of marinade. I saw the tweets by HGM there but haven’t been able to figure out what it was about, exactly. Tweets are kind of hard for me to follow, along with so many impostors, multiple personalities and all. I did see my ip at the bottom of the screen there though.
GOBHO4US Welcome to the Jbmission where the opinions vary, but we all enjoy discussing the case with kindness and respect.
Having read & commented at OS it is my opinion that Hal is friends with some of his bloggers & is releasing others private information to them. Isn’t this illegal? Some of his bloggers make it perfectly that they are in bed with Hal (so to speak).
Thank you Jill! I had NO idea! WOW. I normally am not rattled by this stuff, but after seeing what nts went through on the 17th, then discovering my post reposted of the 16th, yesterday, I am livid and highly suspicious. Yes, that Karmal woman is nuts, imo. They all are, but the NYER one has gone too far this time with hal. They attack me there almost as much as Casey! It is the weirdest thing I have ever seen. They accuse me of being nts, Case,y Baez, Cindy, Clay-Sims……..but believe me, with regard to the minut details of this case, I am not that smart and am not trying to glom on nts’s fame or anyone else’s. I do appreciate nts’s posts. That is all and I regret they have lumped nts in with me. She is much nicer and uses a tact I can rarely muster at the OS.
I am not sure what to think of that “theory” site, Zuben. Marinade, for sure! LOL! I suppose at this point I don’t care to say that IP (which I thought was nts’s) is VERY close to the IP I use. Could we all be using a proxy from snottsdale but sitting in a building across from the OS? Go daddy is BIG in phx! I too, am not much into twitter and never use that mode to comment on this case—occasionally on politics only.
At any rate, the moderator of this site has my email address and if there is a group out there working on this, I am HAPPY to forward ANYTHING that would help and can attest to all I have posted. I have no interest in fame, recognition and don’t know anyone related to this case and am not here to become involved. Just to be clear. I support anyone who has been wrongly accused and don’t consider myself a Casey “follower”, per se, only a media watcher. Yet, I would help her or anyone out in her situation if I was able to.
Be well, justice seekers and lovers! And thanks again! I wish I had lingered longer the first time I came!
Sorry (Some of his bloggers make it perfectly clear)
Hi Lisa…was leaving a message and saw your post. I agree and no, it is not legal. BUT, they do not even abide by their own TOS.
My opinion is that hal IS some of his commenters. The balance of them are just his sleeping minions, imo. I don’t consider any of them capable of blogging, even hal. In his nasty email he told me his bosses told him it IS his blog. Why then doesn’t he have it set up like this one? Privately? Why? Because it IS a part of the OS and they are responsible if they let him stalk and target people. I would not be at all surprised if they have something to do with Casey’s hacking issues. But, IDK if their IT peeps are that sophisticated…..I am almost certain they have attempted a look-see on the system I use for my research.
Sorry~I am not meaning to turn this into a complaint site. I’m used to having posts removed at the OS, so, again, I dont’ mind if I am being overbearing.
Thanks again.
Hmmm, maybe I missed it but I saw no IPs on the theory site except mine, at the bottom of the page. She has an IP tracker there. Is that what you are talking about? I remember NTS pointing out she had it. So, if his looks like yours it is because it is yours.
Mine had my ip number and My home town which is only about 300 people. It also showed my isp.
okay, i will go back to the other username now. lol
For me it showed the main town about an hour north, along with the ISP and within the addy line it showed the abreviation for my town which would be a branch of their network here. Maybe my server is larger so has the main server for the town at the top.
An update, in case anyone is interested and didn’t know…7 boxes were delivered to the appellate court on the 17th so the show is on the road. I also did the search differently this time. Instead of entering Casey’s name, I searched by attorney. I pulled up 6 appeals under Baez, including this one. I went back and searched under Mason’s name, nothing came up. Now, Baez is listed as lead council with Mason as co-council. Either of them can act on Casey’s behalf. Mason filed some motions, Baez others. They may have an agreement that Mason will take over the appeal with Fryer’s assistance. That is reasonable and common. Has anyone seen the Insession episode to confirm Mason said Baez was done the day of sentencing? If he did say this, I wouldn’t say he is lying but instead, that he means that Baez is leaving the appeals process in Mason’s capable hands. He certainly couldn’t have meant that Baez has no official connection to Casey and longer as of July 7 because he filed the appeal, he spoke officially on national tv, several times. So, I see no evidence that Baez has quit or that Casey fired him. If she did, I would think they would keep it quiet for obvious reasons, for both of their sake. If this information is being leaked, if he is parting ways as of very recently then they need to clean house and weed out those that can’t be trusted with confidential information.
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Clickorlando has news on the TES questions.
I went looking for this because I was seeing comments around, calling for letters and calls to go to her PO, claiming she lied and therefore broke the law and should be sent back to jail. Good luck with that one, haters. Here case is on appeal and they can’t use what LE said is true or false or the fact that she was found guilty of, at this point. The appeal is still being heard so it is up in the air whether or not she will remain ‘guilty’ as charged.
Just so I’m not misunderstood, I have no problem with the guilty verdict if she did lie. But if she wasn’t aware that it wasn’t true or if LE was stupid enough to not follow the law, then get on the stand and lie under oath like Dick Melich Tracey did, they don’t deserve a win for those charges.
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I decided to lurk over at Hal’s blog to read the comments referred to. I didn’t find them and can only take so much over there because they are like reading the same thing over and over again, not much thought, coarse, too little humanity. But I did run across a couple of interesting ones. Someone copied and pasted our newest member’s comment, being a typical 3rd grade tattle tale and Hall blasted back. He sounded a little upset, like he was personally offended.
I rarely have the patience to read anything there. I find the commentary coarse, disrespectful and seeming to only strive to feed the hate. The comments follow suit. But every time I’ve read there, even though I rarely get through more than a dozen comments, I always read something about the JB mission or one of our community. You’re famous, JB. Many, many people must be reading here, at least as much as they read Hal. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to report and criticize everything that is said here. I’d take that as flattery, not insult. They respect you enough to come here every day to read. They try to post even though they know their rude disrespect won’t be allowed in. If they didn’t find anything of value, they’d read once and move on, never giving you another though, and certainly not an honorable mention, exposing that they read here regularly. Congratulations.
Well, I guess I’m all alone but thought I’d leave another link before I shut down and watch some tv with family. There is a video here that shows the cars leaving the church parsonage. Someone has a red hood and covering her face. http://www.cbs12.com/sections/local-news/ Where ever Casey Anthony is, I hope she finds some peace and that she realizes there is a greater purpose behind all this madness. Have a good night all.
I am here, just got here
So I looked up Palm City on the sex offenders registry…those people that live there have way more to worry about than Casey…those are the people they should be hounding!
This whole thing has gone beyond ridiculous!
Thanks for the update, Zuben. Very interesting! Does that mean all six appeals are for Casey or do you know?
Jill: Great Idea. I did the same thing in my own home town last year and had no idea how many of them lived near us. The sherrifs office has big color pictures of each one of them next to their profile and has a green neon dot where they live on the map.
It would be cool if a reporter was prepared next time and kind of intterupted and said well what about this? lol
Eagle…that would be great. A GOOD reporter would do that…but the ones reporting on Casey are only there to fan the flames of hate. It might just shock some of those people “who raise up” the kids there to know they have real, live sex OFFENDERS in their back yard…they might want to keep an eye on them instead of Casey. My gosh…they act like she is a serial killer out on a rampage. She’s at a church trying to heal…let her be people…there are worse things to worry about.
Hello everyone,
Just checking in. Zuben thanks for checking for the appeal matter. So you’re saying Baez’s name still appears on the record? Interesting. I think what Mr. Mason meant was that Baez wasn’t going to handle the appeals. We haven’t seen him since the trial, have we?
I know one thing, Baez needed a rest. I don’t know how the man did it. He really took a beating for his client and he kept coming back ..like the EverReady bunny rabbit. The most dedicated attorney I’ve seen in my life. Hands down.
Oh and thanks for the Congrats
I knew they loved me.
Hi Sam! Nice to see you
We’re still here fighting evil..lol
I almost want to say Amen. Is it safe? Or is this the lull before the storm?
Hmm. Something is telling me that now since the insane fanatics has had their dream come to fruition. The manhunt is over!
“Veni, vidi, vici” They came, they saw, they conquered! Lol Conquered what?
I don’t know. Maybe now, they’ll back off.
JB we can only hope. Now that they have let her know that they CAN find her, maybe they’ll move on to the next thing, whatever that might be.
Yep Jill,
A girl can dream, can’t we..lol
Total wishful thinking on our part.
I just got some bad news today. My ex-father-in-law died. He’s my children’s grandfather. He’s been suffering for awhile with his diabetes. No lung disease, never a smoker, I guess just old age.
I’m probably going to go to the funeral Sunday with sons.
:sigh:
I know that death is just a part of life but it’s always sad.
Get this ya’ll, good ole’ boy, Morgan & Morgan has a new commercial on TV here. It’s about childrens rights & how he’ll fight for them INCLUDING SEXUAL ABUSE. Lovely huh? What a great guy he is.
Sorry for your loss JB. We love you & stand behind you.
Thank you Lisa, (((hugs)))
Really Lisa..M&M want to protect children from sexual abuse huh? Well, I wonder how he’ll handle the little children who don’t have proof of what happened to them? What will they do for those poor kids, kick em to the curb and tell them to come back with a picture and signed statement?
M&M are clearly trying to cover their butts.. Yet they’re coming down on Casey, a victim of sexual abuse since she was 8yo. The irony is so rich.
JB – Sorry to hear of your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. My wife’s parents finally agreed yesterday to enter an assisted living facility. Her father has been in the hospital 3 times in the last month and a half and her mom has been in once. They finally realized that they can no longer care for each other without a lot of help. Hopefully, this will be the answer. My poor wife has been running ragged for the last couple of months.
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JB, I’m sorry for your family loss.
Sam, 3 of the appeals are related to Casey. The others seem to be cases he was asked to take during the time he was also getting bogged down in the Anthony case and they ended up taking a public defender to finish the appeal process. One case was interesting. The person plead no contest to burglary, battery or assault when he entered his ex’s home without permission to retrieve his wallet at 3am. The teenage daughter was home alone, he petted her hair while asking questions, she got scared. The judge sentenced him to probation as a sex offender and the high court overturned that portion because the judge had no right to assume his motivation.
First off…JB so sorry to hear of your loss…yes, death is always painful for those of us left behind! I’ll say a prayer for you and your kids!
Someone said awhile back that if Jerry Lyons, who is a private investigator, is helping to hide KC he must truly believe in her innocence…after all, he is an investigator who looked into the case. I found an article that was written back in July after KC was found not guilty and prior to her release. Interesting stuff:
snipped:
In his first interview since Anthony’s trial ended July 5, Lyons criticized the police investigation into the death of 2-year-old Caylee Anthony, blasted the media for a nonstop onslaught of coverage and staunchly declared Casey Anthony’s innocence.
“When I entered into this case I thought there was a good chance she was guilty,” he said. “And when I walk out of it, I know that she is innocent. And I believe her to be innocent, not just ‘not guilty.’”
He called the jury’s verdict an “excellent decision.” It acquitted her of first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter and aggravated child abuse.
“I’ve had happy feelings, but this was a great feeling when the jury came back with not guilty on the top three counts,” he recalled, smiling. “There’s no manner of death, there’s no cause of death, so how do you have murder?”
Lyons insisted he never found a shred of evidence that proved Anthony was a murderer.
http://m.tcpalm.com/news/2011/jul/13/lead-investigator-for-casey-anthony-defense-from/…
Very interesting, Jill!
Sorry for your loss, JB. Thoughts are with you.
JB, huggs and prayers for you,,,
Thaks Jill, I remember that article and his statements.
JB, Anything I can do…..
Well, it looks like the window peepers have been sneaking on the property, getting close enough to see the dinner table, reporting that Casey was in the house. This video, shot on the 19th, says that LE, as well as Lyons were seen going in and out all day. So, if LE was there its a pretty sure thing that they are concerned for their safety or they had a police report to file.
That is scary stuff, Zuben. Seems to me like victim-blaming is alive and well. I truly hope the future is kind to Casey because the present is almost too hard to fathom. Unbelievable.
Zuben @ 3:29 – I am glad to hear that LE was there, even if it was just to fill out a report. This has gotten insane and way out of hand. The haters don’t want to believe it, but she has as much right to privacy as they do. You don’t see the haters using their real names and posting their addresses as they hide behind their keyboards. The media is overstepping the boundaries with all this stealth videotaping in the hopes that they may get an exclusive.
I think this current episode will be enough for Casey to be released from her probation after she reaches the six month mark in February. She has, to the best of her ability, met the terms of the probation and it is not unusual for the state to cut the probation time in half for non-violent offenders. Let us hope the state does the right thing and let her go. The media will have a much more difficult time tracking her down when she could be anywhere in the country or even a US possession (Puerto Rico?) JMO
Zuben,
Thanks for the link!!! I cannot believe those idiots, looking in the window? That POS outta take that NY cap off and replace it with a dunce cap,,,,,unbelievable
You’re welcome. Yes, scary and sad. Did you notice the word, “accused”, the speaker completely ignoring the fact that not only is a person to be considered innocent until proven guilty, but also that she was proven not guilty? How many other people have been accused, not guilty and not even convicted but yet carry this with them forever. I’ve also read more than one comment basically saying that the court of public opinion is more important or is in control of her fate, which is just wrong. Many can’t get jobs simply because they’ve been accused or arrested at some point. I know this because I’ve seen employer applications that ask if you were ever arrested. Some say convicted of a felony within the last 5 or 7 years but I’m hearing that now many are striking anyone that has ever been convicted, since the employment rate has risen so high. Why should a past mistake prevent someone from being able to be employed and be self sufficient? Then they wonder why the repeat offense rate is so high. The system is set up for failure and to keep them in the system. I hope Casey finds a way out and to rise above all this. I’d like to see her get mentally healthy and get involved in the justice system in some way, maybe the innocence group. Maybe Andrea could use her. That would be good work for a Pisces.
Zuben,
I did notice that she said “Accused”. I think Kathi Belich paved the way for “Tabloid” type reporting…….
That woman holding the sign is a real piece of work. Here is what I would like to say to her: Honey there are real sex offenders living in your neighborhood…those who have actually been found guilty! If you are so concerned about your kids go hold a sign out in front of their house…or better yet go home and be with your kids. You are threre because you want to be part of the action…but in reality you are doing nothing constructive. I am sure if Casey looks out her window she is gonna read your little sign and say to herself “oh, this woman wants me to leave, I guess I better go. First off if you REALLY. want her to read the sign, make it readable from far away…duh. The stupidity astounds me
ZubenElSchemali
January 21, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I think I found something important and I want to share it w you all. The video Zuben posted, I went to look up the “protesters” and found this: The 2nd protest person named, Alexis Fredricks, is currently out ON BOND for , get this… 12/06/2011 GRAND THEFT OF A FIREARM & CARRY CONCEALED WEAPON. ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 01/12/2012 AT 08:45 IN A3-2/2, 01/17/2012 DEFENSE ATTY: PUBLIC DEFENDER ASSIGNED
01/20/2012 DEMAND NOTICE OF ALIBI:DEMAND RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY:STATES DISCOVERY:
01/19/2012 NOTICE TO APPEAR SENT TO ATTORNEY
01/18/2012 DEFENSE ATTY: HETHERINGTON JOHN ASSIGNED
01/18/2012 NTC OF APPEARANCE,NTC OF DISC AND DEMAND FOR BRADY MATERIAL
01/12/2012 ARRAIGNMENT DISPOSED
01/12/2012 COURT MIN, STRIP/COURT ORDER
01/12/2012 DEFENDANT PRESENT WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY
01/12/2012 PLED NG:WFA:APD APPT
01/12/2012 DOCKET SOUNDING SET FOR 02/28/2012 AT 01:30 IN A3-2/2,
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Wouldn’t it be a violation of her bond to be tresspassing on Pastor Camp’s property? Tresspassing clearly because they were able to LOOK INTO THE HOME & IDENTIFY OCCUPANTS??? SOmeone needs to clue the authorities in on this lil gal! I’ll post links to the screenshots of her record. Oh, also has a record for minor as VIOLENCE but charges were dropped. Did she have permission to “walk around the back ofthe house”? If not she could be in more trouble.
Here’s the link to check these peeps out yourself.
http://clerk-web.martin.fl.us/ClerkWeb/ccis_disclaimer.htm + ACCEPT then Fredricks A in search panes
So agree with you there Jill. They also speculate she has been there for 5 months. So that sign holding woman has been letting her kids play in the neighborhood and they are still fine! But now that Casey might live there, that has changed somehow? It’s bad enough Casey can’t live her life in peace but now dumb assess are pegging her a serial killer too? These people are totally nuts.
Oh, I also found the MySpace of Miss Lindy Reeves… Nice chest tattoo honey!
http://www.myspace.com/lindy_full_of_pride
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Alexis_Fredricks_5844215/
Jill – I was just about to joke that the ones protesting might be those sex offenders you mentioned or some other kind of low-life. Then I read HGMs comments about Ms. Fredericks and realized you just can’t make this stuff up! Truth IS stranger than fiction when it comes to this case. Maybe Casey and the folks at the church ought to go to Ms. Fredericks house and peep through HER windows and wave signs. Her address is right there on her arrest form. Unbelievable! These people really are crazy.
Good investigation Holly!! You should be on OCSD’s payroll LOL
Another thought on Ms. Fredericks. Who was she planning on using this stolen gun on? Casey?
Holly, and she’s infront of the cameras, like saying nanana,,,come and get me…..lol…..Where’s the
Palm City LE…..
YD, too scary. But all too common, and hope one nutcase doesnt find his/her way to Casey….
Great job HGM!! So, yeah I think trespassing would be a violation of her parole…what an idiot to go on Tv and admit you are trespassing. I tell you, they ‘re like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork.
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/searchNeighborhood.do?actionPerformed=neighborhoodSearchMain 1484 SW 34th St Palm City FL
options 1/4 – 5 miles 3 offenders within 1/2 mile many within 5 miles
http://www.myspace.com/directory/people/alexis-Fredricks
Sweet Alexis’ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/54604740 Stuart FL
http://www.myspace.com/54774512 (Sex Machine! AKA Irishgirl100) Port St Lucie
http://www.myspace.com/40380290 Lexxii(: Jensen Beach FL (Pot icons gang signs Lesbian etc)
At this link, look what it says underneath her picture:
An arrest does not mean that the individual has been convicted of the crime. Individuals on this website are innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.
Well, if that isn’t ironic…hey smart one, Casey’s already been found not guilty in a court of law. Man…I wish I lived in FL I think I’d go to her house with a great big ol’ sign! I’d see how she likes her privacy being taken away. I think I’d chant GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY
She’s kind of scarey looking though!!
http://www.mugshotsonline.com/florida/stuart/alexis-lynn-fredricks/33484842…
I also looked for all of the Martin County Reeves property owners. There is only 1 within Palm City and it appears to only be a right-of-way as it is only valued at $1,200. The actual owner is from Daytona. 1 for Jensen Beach and 3 for Stuart FL. None of them are Lindy or any variation of that name (ie Elizabeth, Linda, etc) So Lindy Reeves, if she even lives nearby, is highly likely she is just a renter, so SHE COULD MOVE AWAY IF SHE DOESN”T LIKE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD!
Oooohhh I feel like taking a Sunday drive tomo! Gotta stop at Wally world on the way & pick up some posterboard & markers…
Palm City Fredricks = Laura (Alexis mom) trailer in trailer park. NOT close enough for her to have been on her own property while “viewing” Casey
That a girl Addie…I will be with you in spirit!!!!
Addie
January 21, 2012 at 7:41 pm
LOL You be carefull outthere Wild Woman! Take plenty of backup!
This is a copy of FEDERAL LAW concerning stalking of a person:
Section 2261A(2) makes it a federal crime to stalk another person across state, tribal or international lines, using regular mail, email, or the Internet. The stalker must have the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate or cause substantial emotional distress, or to place a victim or a victim’s family member, spouse or intimate partner in fear of death or serious bodily injury. (18 U.S.C. Section 2261A)
Interstate Communications. This statute makes it a federal crime to transmit in interstate or foreign communications any threat to kidnap or injure another person. (18 U.S.C. Section 875(c))
When I watched the video of that STUPID TV station( CBS Ch. 12),steam started coming out of my ears! Now they want people to report in if they see Casey!! I guess this should bring out the wanna be next NG,JVM,ETC!! Casey needs to come to Texas where these IDIOTS & TV station might get slapped with “Peeping Tom” or “Video Voyeurism” Law!! I could have sworn that EVERYBODY had a RIGHT to PRIVACY….maybe not in Florida.If all of these people hate her so much…WHY do they want to know every move she makes? All I heard for 3 yrs was how CRAZY Caseys ACTIONS were….hello….how would you describe these IDIOTS ACTIONS??!!
Very observant, HGM. Good job. Yes, it would be a violation of her bond to be engaged in anything illegal, including trespassing and window peeping. It would be an automatic revocation of bond and back to jail to await trial. I hope if she is busted that the judge will ask Casey if she should be forgiven or sent to jail for however long it takes to go to trial. I have a feeling that Casey would say to give her another chance, maybe be on tether. It would be a good lesson for Ms. Fredricks.
I don’t know how someone could hate someone they don’t know! The only things they’ve heard about her was thru the MEDIA? ?? How the H.E dbl hockey sticks can you believe something ANY media outlet sells you?? FOOLS!! Good lord they can’t even get the weather right m! Remind me of how I taught my kids about how things get twisted…line a bunch of people up & share one sentence to the first person in line &ask them to repeat that sentence to the next person til you get to the end & the last person has to repeat what they just heard and its NOTHING like the original sentence lol not even close! I don’t hate anyone, I may not like what they do or how they act but I DONT hate and I sure as heck DONT JUDGE! Not my place or ANYONE elses on this earth for that matter!
Oh I left a comment on our other thread
Addie, from what I’ve seen they claim the media didn’t have a thing to do with their decisions because they watched “every minute” of the trial and made up their own minds! That is as big a lie as they won’t watch or read anything she will profit from!
Stuart FL Police Department
830 Southeast Martin Luther King Junior B
Stuart
(772) 287-1122
http://www.cityofstuart.us/index.php/dept/police-home
Martin County Sheriff Office
800 Southeast Monterey Road
Stuart
(772) 220-7000
http://www.sheriff.martin.fl.us/
Robert L. Crowder, Sheriff of Martin County
I am heartened to hear that the LE was there with Casey. That means they are taking these threats seriously. I hope they are also investigating the video(s) debacle. There may be charges placed in the near future against anyone who has broken the law.
Amen Noni, I just wish they would get off their assess and start arresting these crazy trespassers and harrassers! A precendent needs to be set immediately to inform people this will not be tolerated!
Another good article.
http://prinniefied.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/oh-the-irony/…
Unless they were actually IN that courtroom, they didnt see the ENTIRE trial cuz umm the news stations decided to take commercial breaks almost everytime Jose started speaking! It got on my nerves LOL! They are so full of it.
Keep the 411 coming HGM
Hello Everybody! : )
Yeah, the NEWS amazes me. That video, the woman outside holding the sign and then saying this used to be a quiet neighborhood??????? Maybe if she and those like her would
get all their $$$$$ back in their own houses it still would be. They are the ones causing the commotion. NOW, they even blame that on Casey. CRAP!!! What is with these fugitives? Don’t they have a place to stay, instead of outside people windows. I DOUBT, IMO that is Casey and I hope these people keep running their rears off trying to find where Casey is. They act like this is that game, Where’s Waldo??? This is serious and it isn’t anybody’s business where Casey is. These people are beaking the laws right and left and nothing happens to them. I this if police cars would come up and start giving tickets for, stalking, trespassing and peeping toms a lot od this would stop. AND if they don’t pay the fine they do the time. They act like anything goes. I HOPE she isn’t anywhere around there and that they are sending these idiots on wild goose chases.
Hi everyone…I just want to tell you all that in this hate-ridden world, you all are a breath of fresh air. It must really suck to go through life full of anger and rage over things that don’t turn out your way. I love the company I have found here. You are outstanding!!
Good Evening and you be careful Addie.
Has there really been a kc sighting? or is it all a bunch of bull? lol I can see Todd pulling this off with a decoy. Kc sightings are like Elvis sightings these days. Back in the seventies , they used to sell pet rocks. I wonder if one could get rich selling kc stones?
EagleOnTheMoon!
Now that is a RICH looking Eagle! : )
I have really missed a lot, so much to catch up on.
IMO, I don’t believe there as been or will be a REAL Casey sighting.
I hope there hasn’t and she’s no where around where these idiots are.
I think Casey is way too smart to sit where they can see her with the blinds
open.
I know one thing, she’s a hellofalot smarter than any of the fools
running around looking for her, EVEN though they can’t stand her.
Jill,
I know I feel the same way. It is refreshing!
The hate for almost 4 years now has raged from the kind of NG
shows and as long as you have people that can’t think for themselves,
they’ll all be sheep and follow whatever it is.
Seems like to me that the hate takes so much energy, is such a waste of time, they’re
teacching their kids to be like them and then it dominos.
What a shane!!
They should really feel low.
Casey has been made so hated by the media, SO shame on the media.
I don’t know how the talking heads sleep at night.
Casey was aquitted, July 5, 2011 and ever since she has walked out of the jail they have hounded her. The second probation should have never been.
I wish all of the haters could be in her shoes for one month. I really do.
JB…you have mail.
Hello everyone!
Addie….aren’t you the one they were telling me was living near a place where there was a forrest fire? Please be careful if that is you. If it is not you, then I apologize. It’s hard to keep all of the names straight.
Hello everyone! Hope you all are enjoying the weekend.
I’ll make sure of that.
Geesh Zuben, that video just answered so many questions for me. I was led to believe by some media sources that there were protesters. Hmm.. more like 2 scaggly women right off the set of the Maury show!
And thanks HGM for the clarification, I was right. I noticed the only one who had any sense was that one guy. ha!
Oh, so they found Casey. What do they want? A cookie.
:rolling my eyes in the back to the back of my head: And that Alexis chick is sure to get a call from her probation officer.
Loly, since you live in Florida, you should call that news station every 5 minutes with a new Casey Anthony siting. That would a Fun Sunday!
oh and Loly ..be creative with the locations. Like the mall, then McDonalds, Burger King, and finally to the county courthouse. Maybe they’ll get the hint. They’re despicable! IMO
FloridaCoyote…..yes, Addie does live near an area where a brush fire had reached the periphery of her property, but the last I heard, the fire had been contained.
OK….I think I’m headed off to bed. Lots of catching up to do!! Catch you all tomorrow. Good night everyone:)
OMG….I have google maps…..I could call them and keep them hopping!! THAT sounds like more fun than I’ve had all week!!
BTW…..
JB, you are freakin’ AWESOME!!!
Thanks for the email Omar. I know exactly what you mean! And btw, disregard my dumb advice.
Its true, I am delusional.
O hh ..lets think of some good ones Omar! That would be so fun.
Another thing I forgot to mention, PI Jerry Lyons is da BOMB! I <3 him. He's the PI who had Marinade chitting in his pants after he made that stupid comment about having lunch with the Judge and Cheney. Ha! I knew I liked that guy!
If ya reading Jerry, Kudos to you!
And while I’m giving da love, God Bless YOU Pastor Steve Camp! You are a TRUE man of God!
You are in my prayers.
Yes Omar,
I’m going to bed too.
Where’s Arkie?? I hope she’s okay?
just wanted to send you all a note… and here is yours alls note…
to all the GORGEOUS missionites i wish you all a most wonderful day tomorrow, and a most
FANTASTIC week ahead, missing u all
be back soon and take care of yourselves
xoxo
That is so kind of you Spidergirl, thank you and God bless.
Morning Missionites …. .watching the Sunday Today Show…and what is one of the news features?? Where is Casey Anthony??? And I guess interviews with some who have seen her….. how sick is this?
Good Morning Hazaka !! Well or at least some who think they saw her?
Good morning, all. Spidergirl, put those super powers to work so that your magic web will protect and bring you back soon.
Eagle on the Moon, love your gravatar.
While I was looking for something I ran across some Suburban drive pics I haven’t seen before. If you look through you will see what it looks like in Area A when there is some water on the ground. Interesting. http://wqyk.radio.com/2011/07/21/love-for-caylee/#photo-1
I stole my gravatar from Red Huber at the OS. I wonder if I should ask him first. Does anyone know
if it is legal to borrow a picture from the newspaper?
Zuben, thank you so much for these pictures. I am looking at number 17 and it appears they have placed stuffed animals much deeper in the woods than Area A. Let me know which picture you believe is Area A?
Number 4, they guy is actually going into the water to place his card?
6, the lady actually steps into the water to look deeper in the woods where there are more things?
7, a person goes into the water to take a photo outward?
9, goes way into the water to get a picture going out
12 no water behind the cross. 12 to 13 different days?
29 no water. So, these photos are taken on different days or different times of day? All prior to
july 17th as posted on the tree.. I am not saying these were photoshopped, but I am suspicious. MOO
What do others think of the pictures that Zuben provided? Can we establish exactly where AREA A is?
Jbmission: Once I cleared my history, I realized that none of my comments were posted. I feel silly that I was just talking to myself. lol Is it my new email address that has put me in moderation?
Zuben: I have made several comments on that link you provided. I basically am suspicious that the photos have been photoshopped. I can not understand why people are stepping in the water, yet searchers would not. the pictures appear to be from different times. I can tell by the stuffed animals below the cross. The poster on the tree shows it is prior to July 17 2011
Very observant of you, Eable. I noticed that even with water there it is quite visible, water not deep or even hurting any of the items, as well as not hindering visitors.
I can use some help. I saw several news articles that said the diary first showed up on Caylee-Anthony Countdown to Justice facebook page but I’ve never seen it and can’t find it in a search. Does anyone have the addy for this page? I was researching something.
Are you meaning the video diary? I think it was first posted on rob hensley facebook page for 10 minutes and then removed. Jason then appears to have an avatar of kc in the video. early december. Jason has a facebook page and Rob post there. They brought that down to private in the first week. Amelia or whoever, appears to have a friend on that page that coppies and paste from it. It is my opinion at this stage, that RH is the one that was skyping with kc and hacked her account. What I don’t understand is that RH and Jason act as friends, even though they are both in love with kc? the saga continues. lol I will look for the link.
Does anyone know if I am legally allowed to use Red Huber OS eagle on the moon photo for my avatar? I don’t want to get in trouble.
Mornin Everyone! : )
Zuben I’ve NEVER understood that they stopped searching because of the water. That was total BS!!! They search LAKES, OCEANS but stopp because of a little water? Sure……………
Kronk was in there, others were searching in Sept. Kronk called in son in Nov?
They’re doing more searching for Casey than they ever did for Caylee!!!
Kronk found a snake bigger than the trees??? Where did he actually find it?
AND I guess they think we were all just born yesterday. : /
Yes, the video diary. I know that Rob is supposed to be the first one that posted it but many news sites said that Caylee-Anthony Countdown to Justice was the first to post it so I wanted to check out that site. They may have meant at or around Jan. 4 but not sure. You see, I’m sure that the Brileys are lying about it being on a pay per view site so I just wanted to look a little closer. I can see that the boycott page has deleted some stuff, which is a red flag to me too.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000982401536&sk=wall
Protestor Alexis (Lexii) Fredricks
Out on bond for 2 Weapons charges due back in court in Feb 2012
Likes the “dro” (Hydro aka pot)
HGM,
REALLY? I said they were fools. LMAO!
That’s just about the kind of stupids that are out there looking for her.
Looks like she had better start thinking about her bad side before she runs out
breaking the law in front of the cameras! I hope she goes to jail.
She should!
Somebody’s got their priorities all messed up. She’s the one that have spent time in
jail, not Casey.
Eagle,
I would think so. It says public!!
Eagle,
It says all that you have to do is sign up with your E-mail.
You won’t get in trouble. : )
Thank You
Okay, a 4 year old drowns this morning in Orlando. 5513 riordan way. Drowns in the neighbors pool. I google mapped it and it looks like an in ground pool. The mother notify’s police that are already in the area. Now, the Lt, says criminal charges are pending. So someone tell me why parents should not be afraid to report a drowning?
Wow, lexii is a class act…NOT! Look at her Jan 9th status…”She ain’t duct taped a (n-word) in a long time.”
Yeah and she is protesting Casey? Casey has more class in her little finger than this thing!
Jail time!!!
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Jill, I agree. This girl is Pure-D-Trash and the perfect example of a person who would stalk an acquitted citizen.
BTW, you have mail,
JB
Seems to me that YOU all do quite a bit of hating yourselves. Just because you all bought into the newest Casey Anthony story/tale/lie of my-daddy-molested-me-he-killed-caylee-and-made-me-cover-up-blah-blah-blah presented at trial, don’t hate on the people who didn’t buy into it. Remember: Casey Anthony is a lying liar that lies.
Just for “fun”, like your hero Cheny Mason, I read around once in a while on the “old” Casey Anthony blogs. And this always a fun place to come to.
You all make across-the-board opinions on just why there are those of us who believe Casey to be guilty (yes just like OJ Simspon). One in particular: The MEDIA has zero, zilch to do with WHY those of us believe in her guilt. Can’t speak for everyone, but I based my opinion, like many others on what was released via the sunshine law, my own common sense and knowing that ALL murderers lie and place the blame elsewhere for their murdering deeds.
And reading the pack of lies that she told those two psychiatrists upped my belief that she killed her daughter. It is very easy to catch the lies, one being the simplest: Her phone records at the time she says she “slept til 9am” when it is proven she was awake and doing what she always did: text, talk use the computer. She even lied that she was making money setting up “websites” or “taking pictures for events/weddings”. Me thinks if she was indeed doing those things someone would have come forward to sell their story of Casey setting p their website or takings pics for their event”.
Remember: Casey Anthony is a lying liar that lies.
Hi Hazaka, Hope this finds you well.
One more thing…I do not believe she was molested in any way shape or form. Wait, I do tend to believe her brother may have wanted to check out her boobs as a curious teenage boy. She has made a mockery of those who truly were molested or raped by their own father.
uh oh, i think i blew up twitter. running to hide now.
And on Dec. 26 she admits to stealing from her mom..can you say HYOCRITE? ? HAHA
Linda in new york: wow, it sounds like you are basing your opinion on kc’s lies? what is that?
kc is not oj simpson. wow
I based my opinion on the the documents released through the sunshine law and also the evidence presented at trial. If you only read the documents released through the sunshine law, then you missed the boat on the defendants side of the story.
You have no proof that she lied to those doctors.
her phone records are consistent with her statements. She may be off 15 minutes , but it had been 3 and 1/2 years. reasonable. We need to see the computer records yet. The self recused, self admitted biased, runaway judge sealed that. remember?
Those who want to base their opinions on lies rather than evidence are bound to miss the boat. IMO
btw: Welcome
* i mean hypocrite…darn kindle keyboard…not used to it!
Yes, hyocryte is like liver. lol It makes me sick and weak.
Linda…such a sweeping statement.t you make regarding her making.g a mockery of those who have been sexually abused by their father. Do you have experience in that tragic subject? If not, I suggest you noy say such things, especially here.
I didn’t miss any boats. I, like you based my opinion on the documents released via the sunshine law, and other evidence. And further based my opinion on the totality of evidence, circumstantial and otherwise. Those documents also contained Casey lies. Of course her lies come into play. The “story” the defense told at trial was not backed with any proof of….anything. They blamed everyone BUT Casey. Roy Kronk, the “body mover”. George “the molester”. Yes I found it laughable and preposterous. Don’t all murderers lie and say, nope, wasn’t me, somebody else didt? The “evidence” against her added up for me. No boat missed here. Her phone records are not consistent with her “statement/lies”. And you have no proof she DIDN’T lie to those doctors. So I think for all time the KC is not guilty camp and the casey is guilty camps will forever be at a stalemate. But it’s OK, I don’t wish harm to anyone. Incuding Casey. And I, personally, have no wish to “hunt her down”. Frankly I really do wish we never ever hear another thing about her. I wish her and family would just go away and we never hear about them again. But, unfortunately, this is the case that just keeps on giving. For better or worse. It’s like a train wreck, you just have to look.
Jill, I do have some experience. But nothing to do with my father.
Well, that’s your opinion LindaNewYork. Right?
I happen to see this whole case differently and so does alot of people. Agreed, was Casey REALLY molested as child? IDK, and you don’t know. That’s a fact. Seldom is there any proof of molestation. That’s also a fact.
If you don’t at least admit that there’s something else beneath this story Casey told? If you don’t see GA’s actions as strange? Then there’s no help for you.
Do you believe that child molestation and incest doesn’t happen in middle class America? Or does this only take place in the back woods of Mississippi? (no offense to people of MS, but this is what small minded people think. They believe in stereo-typical hype that they read in nasty jokes) But it does happen more than you know.
Funny thing, since Baez dropped the bomb of the molestation, more people have come out of the closet on all of the blogs relaying stories of incest and child abuse.
And really Linda,
What I find find strange is that you would come back to my site after that very, very nasty comment that you left here. Yet you acknowledge Hazaka and not me? This is my blog. Wouldn’t it be polite to at least say hello? But no Linda, you have no class.
If I were you, I’d hide under a rock before showing your screen name on my site.
LindaNewYork
January 22, 2012 at 5:28 pm
———————————————- So my Lanceman —- you found your way here ….since BS is gone?????
Sad as it is, I think it’s good that little Caylee’s life will not be in vain. Something horrific occured in that family. Casey’s actions didn’t just occur in a vacuum. Now we find out, more and more, little Caylee dearly loved her Mom. The haters twisted the entire story and championed George Anthony. Hang your heads in shame, all you haters, for closing your minds to the truth.
I do have experience, unfortunately, and personally I think she is bringing to light the horrors that happen behind closed doors, even in those all-american homes that look perfect. I also think it shows what happens when a child is not believed when they finally do tell someone. Rarely is there proof of molestation. What is proof is often the behavior of the abused. They lie to cover up and often protect their abused. Casey didn’t just start lying when caylee died…she lied for years. Perhaps she lied about a job because she didn’t want to leave caylee with George. I doubt it was so she could party. Did you notice not one of her friends she was a party girl?
The gall!!! LindaNewYork, you say you were molested but not by your father. Well, that’s the only plus side to your absolutely ridiculous claims. Molestation is horrible, I don’t care who it’s done by, BUT your father??? OH, YES! And you most certainly will lie even more, not only because you’re trying to protect him BUT also your Mother who will not believe you anyway. The two people that brought you into this world to cherish and protect you. IF you can’t have what are you going to do? I’ve said it before and I will repeat it again, the molester is always felt so damn sorry for while the ones they molested ended up the bad people.
Don’t even compare us to the Casey haters. YOU may not want harm to her, but just by joining the hayers that do says a lot. You wouldn’t care. IF the haters would have accepted the verdict and gone on with their lives, we wouldn’t be having tjis discussion almost 7 months later, WOULD WE?
It should be over and nothing more after July 5th. THe haters then wanted her life to be miserable and threatened daily and IF you aren’t one of them and you want NO HARM done to her, then start telling them. Tell them there was a jury that heard and saw it all, that’s more than anything else and they aquitted her, she is not guilty, GET IT?
WE don’t threaten anyone here, so don’t even try to compare.
Tell the other ones that believe like you to let it alone and it WILL be over.
LindaNewYork did you forget that SAO got caught lying about the evidence that they presented to Jury? Did you forget that it is the states job to prove their case? The defense does not have to prove anything. Not proving your case and lying to the jury about evidence will get you a not guilty verdict anyday. How do you know nshe was not molested? Did you live her life? I don’t think so. She very much acts likes a person that was abused. Casey had lied long before Caylee was ever born. She didn’t start when she went missing.
REmember Brett Churchill? He was a searcher that searched with Tim Miller and then went out on his own when Tim got mad at Cindy and called off the search. LE interviewed him and this is from his transcript (also if you read it in full he has been coached because right off the bat he talks about snakes):
“Remember Brett Churchill? He was a searcher that searched with Tim Miller and then went out on his own when Tim got mad at Cindy/Casey and called off the search. LE interviewed him and this is from his transcript (also if you read it in full he has been coached because right off the bat he talks about snakes). My point in posting this is (1) look at the difference in his description of the site where Caylee was found and the pictures referenced above in this board and (2) Tim Miller stopped searching for Caylee and went to search for Jennifer Kesse – HOW MUCH IS HE SUING FOR AND HOW DID HE ARRIVE AT THE FIGURE?”
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/bchurchill082109.pdf
My point in posting this is (1) look at the difference in his description of the site where Caylee was found and the pictures referenced above in this board and (2) Tim Miller stopped searching for Caylee and went to search for Jennifer Kesse – HOW MUCH IS HE SUING FOR AND HOW DID HE ARRIVE AT HIS FIGURES? IIRC Tim Miller resumed his search at the request of the SAO and they gave $5,000 to TIM for that search. Tim says he was in the bedroom alone with Casey? I don’t think so!!
Have any of you seen the twitters by the anonymous group? Apparently, they are going after Casey. Go to about 16min and forward in this news video. http://www.globalnational.com/video/global+national+jan+21/video.html?v=2189142916#english/video I picked this up at the Defending page. I think he is writing Mason to give him a head’s up.
I think that in light of the psychiatrist reports and Casey’s belief that her father actually murdered her daughter – her lies may have not just been to protect the abuser (and I know firsthand that does go on) but more for survival. Was she afraid for her own life? Was she scared she would get buried in the backyard, wrapped in a garbage bag and duct taped three times just like Cindy’s ‘babies’ (her two dogs) were?
I fear it’s attitudes like LindaNewYork that allow incest and child sexual abuse to flourish. Of course there is no ‘proof’ except for her behavior, which seems to be classic of an incest survivor. Shame on you Linda for ignoring the rampant child sexual abuse going on around you.
What I just don’t understand is how there can be so many ignorant people with enough guts to go ahead and state in writing that there is no proof that Casey was molested. What kind of proof WOULD there be?? The only proof would have come had it been reported to authorities at the time and a physical exam by a physician had been done. In the real word…..the one that I live in…..most pedaphiles and abusers don’t just fess up and say, “aw shucks, you caught me! I did it!”. Isn’t that how it continues? Isn’t that why there are so many tragic cases of abuse these days? Isn’t that WHY so many people come forward once they are adults and are safely away from their abusers? What about all of the hundreds of men who have come forward in the last decade and have accused boy scout leaders, priests or coaches of sexual abuse? Are they liars too….because there’s no proof. No one whipped out sworn affidavits, signed by the perpetrators that said, “yep…I did it and I liked it”. I haven’t seen a single video that’s been released PROVING the truthfullness of these stories. What I HAVE heard is a common story……that the victims felt ashamed and helpless. That they were afraid that no one would believe them, or that they would be blamed. I’ve heard the stories about how they felt guilty and dirty…..and how they lived in a world filled with lies. LIES that they were willing to tell to protect themselves….
What we DO have are profiles of the behaviors exhibited by both victims and perpetrators. If fools like LindaNY are so pig headed that they refuse to see the patterns, then let them live in their blissful ignorance. I certainly hope no one close to these people ever need help because they’re being victimized. I suppose they’d ask for proof because they don’t have enough intuition to notice that often, the ONLY proof is a pattern of behavior.
Casey fits the profile of someone who suffered abuse. George fits the profile of an abuser. Do I know for certain that George molested Casey? No, I do not, because I wasn’t there. Do I know for certain that George did NOT molest Casey? No, because again, I wasn’t there. Does Casey’s behavior look similar to thousands of others who have come forward later in life to point a finger at their abusers. Definitely. Her lying pattern, formed in childhood is a huge red flag. LindaNY is just color blind.
Linda, Linda, Linda from NY,,,
I haven’t seen you in ages. I see you still “dont get it”, but thats okay! I dont think you ever will, but
hey, you hang here long enought there might be some hope for ya…: )
GCG…..I love you because whenever you post, you make me smile!!!!
RIGHT Imar!
And ONE thing we know for sure is that GEorge or Cindy would never admit
it. How long does it take for someone to talk about being molested???
A LONG TIME!
How long does it take for a molester to admit it?
He NEVER DOES!
And I agree SAM! Shame Shame on Linda.
It will continue.
When you look and see how many pedophiles on the maps, it’s astonishing.
Thank you Omar…great post. I would like to ask Linda if she thinks its normal for a grandfather to say he misses the sweet smell of her sweat at a memorial for his granddaughter? Maybe I miss her beautiful smile, her giggle or the way she would look at me when s he was trying to get her way…but, the sweet smell of her sweat? Weird! Even in the depo Dr. W said that was strange and sensual. Are you just going to ignore that part of the depo? I mean lets make a big deal about Casey being off on the time she woke up, but lets gloss over the concern the Dr had concerning George’s behavior. Also, remember those infamous jailhouse visits…let’s make a big deal over Casey saying “you’ve been the best dad, don’t blame yourself (blame for what??? Imean isn’t he perfect?) But lets not say a word about how George calls his daughter beautiful and gorgeous and is concerned that she is putting on weight while in JAIL…WOW. To me those are very big red flags. If hes not a molester then he is very creepy man. Because of my life experiences I believe he is both and I choose to believe Casey.
Has anyone heard from Addie? Wondering how her road trip went,
LINDANewYork,
You don’t BELIEVE her father molested her, hut you BELIEVE her 15 year old brother might
have wanted to touch her boobs out of curiosity?
Well, ain’t that sweet. My 15 year old brother would have been slapped from here to New York City.
I guess you BELIEVE just what you want to BELIEVE.
AND what kind of response do you call that one you left for Jill at 5:59, you’ve had some experience. You didn’t say tragic. When you talk molesting about yourself, it’s horiffic, ttragic, humilating, the worst thing that could have ever happened to you. We’re not talking real-estate. Quit belittling so many that have been molested. FRom then on their life is a TRAIN WRECK! They didn’t cause it!
lolypop…I literally just laughed out loud over that comment!! That’s priceless!! I agree with you…..I’d have slapped my brother from here to NYC too!! Great comment!!
And Jill….you are soooooo right!! The things george said were creepy…and that’s putting it nicely. Honestly, if any man ever talked to my kids the way GA talked to Casey in the jail house visits or letter, or talked ABOUT the sweet smell of my child’s sweat, I’d run far and fast from him. I have talked to many normal men (and plenty of abnormal ones too…..) and every single normal guy I asked said that GA’s comments were creepy and indicitave that something just isn’t right with him.
Addie is home…she said her day was productive and she will catch us up later (tomorrow).
Hello everyone! We have had terrible weather here around and about this evening and night. Tornado’s busting out, unsure yet any one hurt. Prayers going out~ all clear here. Ok, off to catch up! Hugs all
Jill says George said this
What?? OMG, I missed this. “how she would look at me when she was “trying” to get away??Very disturbing.. Trying to get away from what? Sounds like a Freudian slip to me.
GA must be kicking himself for that slip-up.
Thanks Jill for clarifying. It still disturbs me that he was at the foot of Casey’s bed when she was giving birth to Caylee. I believe these psychologist got it right.
From my unprofessional observation that’s abnormal.
I also thought it was odd the way he buddied up to the police. I remember thinking that at the onset when I still wasn’t sure if Casey was guilty. The whole time I was thinking, “what’s up with this dad” it seemed that he wanted Casey in jail more than LE. “How come?”
If my child was accused of a crime, lets say a crime against his own child, I would be heart sick. I would do what I had to do $$$$ wise, but I can’t imagine running to the police station, giving incriminating statements like GA did.
GA it seemed to me was trying to get info from LE. Maybe to cover his own tracks..IDK but GA’s behavior was odd and so was Cindy’s. If Casey was guilty, alone..without their knowledge, Cindy would have thrown her under the bus in a second but she didn’t do that. They came up with the kidnapping plot later after the drowning. That’s why the duct tape was introduced but the body had already partially decomposed from being buried in the back yard therefore the cadaver dog hit in the backyard.
Whatever happened to little Caylee was a conspiracy, that’s why the accident with over-the-top cover up makes sense and not murder. Not one person in that house had a motive to kill that baby. None. Casey had built in babysitters, I don’t care how much the A’s complained and threatened, nothing was going to change for Casey.
But if Caylee had an accident and there was an autopsy MAYBE it would prove GA the father. Egads! Or worst that Caylee was being molested.
GA nor Cindy wanted that to happen and that’s why they all agreed to the cover up and the 31 days.
I only wish, Yuri Melich would have thought a little outside of the box from the beginning because had they brought the whole family down to the station, making all of them a suspect, I think they would have got to the truth. It was LE’s rush to judgment that caused this fiasco. IMO
No JB I’m sorry…what I meant was I could understand him saying something like how he missed her smile, or missed that look she gave when she was trying to get away with something. My daughter used to give me this cute look when she knew she was in the wrong but didn’t want to get in trouble. He did say he missed the sweet smell of her sweat…that I cant understand. That is not normal. Sorry I was not clear.
Sweet smell of her sweat?????
You know that Memorial wasn’t about Caylee at all. It was more about them. And the fact that Casey couldn’t be at her own daughter’s Memorial is unforgiving. Casey had no say.
That all is just unthinkable, unbelievable and for sure unforgivable!
Omar, glad I put a smile on your face every once in awhile…LOL…..
JB, yes George’s comments at Caylee’s memorial was bizzare,I couldnt believe I was hearing what I was hearing……I think he would miss giving her breakfast or reading to her, but miss
smelling her sweet sweat?…..I dont get it
Loly,
I agree with you about the memorial.
IT was more about them, more damage control then anything…….Grieving grandparents, what
better way to gain more sympathy…..George loved it, he was center of attention. You know, living under the microscope, we all know how George hates that eh?
That Memorial was nothing more than a show for G and C. It was very,very bizarre. And the fact that Casey had NO say In HER daughter’s memorial is reprehensible to say the least. She also asked G and C to bury her and not cremate her, but they ignored that too. Hmmmmm…wonder why. Another red flag
aaawwww yes, Giants going to the superbowl
Jill, I hope Casey is able to gain access to Caylee’s ashes…..
I thought that was terrible, completely ignoring her requests….
Lolypop, I agree with your comment, they are looking for Casey more than ever looked for Caylee!
JB…totally agree with your last post. When I heard George’s Fbi interview that he set up and didn’t want Cindy or lee to know about…wanted what he said to stay between him and the Feds…that’s when I thought “this guy is involved and is trying to put all the blame on Casey. He is the one people should hound imo
GCG….I was rooting for the Giants too!!
Since the Saints didn’t get to go this year, I’m glad the Giants are going!!
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Me too Omar!
JB
GCG, I agree. She should have those ashes. And GO GIANTS! Not normally a Giants fan but I do like the Manning brothers.
Should be good game..,,,,
Just another excuse to munch …..
What a way to start out 2012……..With nachos and 5lbs of melted cheese……
Good night folks. I’ve enjoyed chatting with you today. Sad the weekend is over already. They go WAY too fast.
Just curious about the FBI _Sting in Lake Mary yesterday (or Friday?). The OS offered few details (per usual) and I can’t find anything about this “ongoing” investigation. It may be nothing related to Casey’s case. The timing struck me odd. Just checking if there was “word” on the street. The piece ran the same day as the pieve on the cyber stalking sentence (4 years) on the UCF students.
Jill, GasCanGeo., lolypop & JB…I SO agree. about the “memorial” (and all else). Just sickening and so sad they didn’t wait til Casey was out. For Cindy to have not stopped looking for Caylee until she found out about the accusations against Geo (or, not long before the trial ?) they sure did rush to get that done and televised. That was too much. I still think the tail is wagging the dog on a lot of this.
Thanks all!
PS–Linda NewYork~are you related to the NYER at the OS? Just wonderin. Semantics sound familar.
OH sooo many great comments and views….. LindaNewYork, oh dearie, why do you sound so familiar?
GOBHO4US ~ I have said here MANY MANY TIMES, that I feel very strongly that Ole Hal is one of the commentors or bloggers over on his Entertainment site. He is getting more vile in his articles of late. All thats posted is same ole same ole trash. Literally!
Noni: 7:42 Thank you for bringing up the Brett C interview. i had forgotten about the smoking outside the hotel where he worked. George drives by and Tim says well, there’s George and gets up and runs inside. So? What is George driving by Tim’s motel for? See? I think George is just being George and making sure everybody sees it his way.
You guys/gals are the best at picking stuff out! Jill your were right on it on the memorial thing!
LindaNewYork says
” Frankly I do wish she never ever heard another thing about her. I wish her and her family would just go away and we never hear about them again. But UNFORTUNATLY it’ a case that keeps on GIVING??? For better or for worse, it’s like a train wreck you just have to watch”
This baffles me, REALLY? This is like a train wreck?
I wish Nancy Grace and several others would go away too. THey did! I made it happen. I don’t watch them.
Seems like you’ve been here before.
What did you think it was about.
Yep, you see it just because you want to it’s your choice. Enjoy!
But I would stay away from protecting the molesters. WE don’t and we take that very seriously.
Arkansasmimi, you are very smart! I have NO doubt about hal and I am on him. It’s personal now. He and that crazy NYER….who lolypop has THANKFULLY figured out
And thanks for the earlier welcome, Eagle. I appreciate it and love the way this site is run. Very nice discussions!
JB–I wish you the best with your family. Good luck.
Peace, all.
Hal’s problem is that he doesn’t have control over the other os stories. Just his entertainment blog. So, perhaps him and his cronies are going to try another angle with ip numbers. I hope not. Hal will be held liable for that if it happens. Even if it happens by accident Hal. Did ya hear that?????????? Hal??????????
I guess I was kind of lucky, except I wish that I had found JB a lot earlier.
About the only news that I got besides watching the trial and of course all of the talking heads were biased. That Casey Jordon on In Session had guilty just like all of the rest. I would watch some on You Tube, but you really couldn’t ask anything that made any sense without either just name calling or being removed just because you weren’t agreeing.
I found JB in Aug. : )
Ever sense then I’ve been a happy camper. : )
I didn’t know there was one like it.
I would have loved to have found it sooner, BUT it’s been a great big help.
THANKS JB and all of you! : )
GOBHO4US, Thanks, your being too kind. Not smart lol well not dumb either. But on the Ole Hals ENTErTAINMENT Blog. I can think of about 5 folks who have multi sign on nics. I have a very strong feeling who I think are Hal’s too
. They give NTS and Misty grief but hate it and post when they dont post then say, oh it sure is nice since they arent here then OH hope I dont jinx us lol They Love the BS!
Love it when someone sets a hater straight. lol they sure dont acknowledge they are wrong as an adult would/should, they just go on to another hater issure: Copied from hatersville: The OtherSide
Posted by: swift justice | Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM
Snipped:
…….yes, Caylee indeed was beginning to talk …..and I think
that was KC’s fear…..because even George has asked Caylee about Nanny……and she just stared at him……never said a word about her.
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From George’s FBI interview on July 30, 2008:
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SB: She [Caylee] never said Zanny?
GA: No.
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From George’s SAO deposition on August 5, 2009:
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Q: Okay. My understanding from reading your statements is that she [Caylee] never, ever uttered the name Zanny?
A: No.
Q: N e v e r ?
A :Never heard her say that at all. Never — never did.
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At the trial, George said that on June 16th, he was watching Drive Up [sic] Diners and Dives, and he remembered that during a commercial break Caylee came out of Casey’s room. He described what she was wearing, and he said that he asked her, “Where are you going?” She said, “Going with mommy.” He said, “Oh, really. Where ya going.” She said, “I’m going to see Zanny.”
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I think George said that at the trial because he knew the defense wanted to portray him as an unreliable witness, and he was doing whatever he could to get that across to the jury in an attempt to help Casey. I’d bet he was surprised Jeff Ashton didn’t point out that he had previously stated under oath he never heard Caylee say the name Zanny.
Reply Posted by: sallright | Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:54 PM
HMH | Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM :
I’m pretty sure that George testified he was the one who asked Caylee “Are you going to see Zanny?” I don’t remember ever hearing that Caylee brought Zanny’s name up.
I’ll go double check.
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Following is a link to the trial video:
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George told Jeff Ashton that he asked Caylee, “Where are you going?” She replied, “Going with mommy.” He said, “Oh, really. Where ya going?” She replied, “I’m going to see Zanny.”
Reply Posted by: sallright | Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 9:37 PM
Did yall see where that reporter Jackie Fell quit, she had covered the Casey Anthony saga. I wonder if she got burnt out?
Has anyone heard anything new on Baby Lisa Irwin or Michelle Parker?
If somebody doesn’t stop Chelsea Hoffman I may have to… check this out
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981047850
According to Tim Miller, Casey admitted to the first question. So that means she basically admitted that she was lying the entire time about little Caylee being missing. She lied about her father, and she lied about the alleged drowning. She’s a despicable human being who deserves everything in life that she gets. Karma can be one hell of an adversary, and Ms. Anthony has made an enemy.
She wouldn’t admit to the second question, saying that she “had no clue” that TES was conducting searches for her “missing” daughter. Well, that’s bull-hockey because Tim Miller had sat with her and her family a few times before she was arrested in 2008. She obviously knew he was searching for her daughter that was never even missing.
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Does she really consider this Journalism? Can we really sit idley by while this continues?
I would think anything anyone says is hearsay because none of us were there when they were at the house. I have heard many diff things that supposedly was said, funny thing is I dont remember ANY of it from the trial. Maybe I have forgotten, but… Seems like that would have been something very important to be told about . IMHO
UMM she should state that it is her opinion that she was basically lying. Stupid, pot stirring winch! IMHO of course
GO get her HGM! I just wonder what they teach in journalism classes these days? I dont consider alot of these so called Journalist to be what they think they are!
This is the NUT that sent Correspondence to the courts lol
Mary-Etta Jean Hinkle
You can share this entire doc by cutting and pasting this link https://www.facebook.com/groups/LetsHaveJosebaezdisbarred/doc/267431639988590/
I have seen Mary Etta Jean Hinkle on many hate sites!
FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ, ZENAIDA vs. ANTHONY, CASEY
01/10/2012 Correspondence
from Mary Etta Hinkle
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1450829
JB you can delete the web page to disbarr Jose.
Good morning, all. A thunderstorm woke me up about 4:30 this morning so I decided to do a little browsing. Facebook is being used as advertisement and Ashton is using it to aid his campaign. I think he needs to hire a professional editor to run his page though, because he is doing as good a job at that as he did at his job, sloppy and not even able to cover his cover-ups, let alone his obvious censorship on his page. Here’s an example.
Tammy Proulx-Tupay
It’s my understanding that it was Lawson Lamar’s decision not to prosecute Cindy Anthony for perjury, is this true?
Like · · Saturday at 11:45pm ·
Dennis Wxyz Yes it’s true.
10 hours ago · Like
Debbi Merritt Rita I think this information should go to Jeff….
10 hours ago · Like · 1
Lecia Elaine Duvall What kind of State of Attorny is that?? The people of FL should be outraged and should hold him accountable. This State Attorney should be fired.
8 hours ago · Like · 1
Dennis Wxyz This information came from MR Ashton.
7 hours ago · Like
Debi talks to Rita but Rita’s comment isn’t there. The original post was late Saturday but the only responses left are late last night. There are about 24 hours of responses deleted, as well as some that would help to make sense out of the ones he left. I have a strong feeling he left a trail behind of more wrong doing. He’s just too sloppy.
Now, I also see that he was made aware of the news report I linked last night, Anonymous threatening Casey. I wonder if he will do his duty and report this to his former boss. I wonder what affiliation some of the public Casey haters have to Anonymous. Could this be how the video was obtained?
Tim Miller’s intentions are good however his track record isnt the greatest! If anything, donors are owed explanations as to why Tim Miller spends so much money searching, yet comes up with nothing,,,,,,
Like kidfinders, missing children/adults who stay missing bring in the almighty bucks unfortunately,
The Anthony’s knew this, and kept their agenda going…..After all, George admitted to Dr. Phil
he thought Caylee died of a drug overdose..Yet he’s not on the hotseat and questioned about his fake foundation and collecting funds on a lie?
of course just an opinion as usual…