Another frivolous lawsuit hot on the Anthony gravy train.
Today WFTV.com reported that Roy Kronk is now filing a defamation suit against Casey Anthony. His attorney Howard Marks claims that Anthony and/or those representing her suggested he might have been involved in Caylee Anthony’s death and hid her body.
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Ex-meter reader who found Caylee’s remains suing Casey
ORLANDO, Fla. —
Former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk is suing Casey Anthony.
Kronk, the man who found the remains of two-year-old Caylee Anthony, has filed a defamation claim against Anthony, according to his attorney Howard Marks.
Kronk’s suit contends that statements made by Anthony, or those representing her, suggesting that Kronk might have taken Anthony’s young daughter, killed and hidden her body are defamatory. Marks said Anthony’s statements that Caylee drowned means she was trying to deflect the blame to others.
Anthony is the only defendant named in the lawsuit.
Anthony is also being sued in civil court by Zenaida Gonzalez and by Texas EquuSearch
Although I agree that Kronk has a legitimate case against the National Enquirer, I think this latest filing is about as valid as those weapons he supposedly found in Kingsport, Tennessee in 1997.
Doesn’t Kronk’s attorney Howard Marks know the reason for an opening statement? Perhaps the definition would ease Mr. Kronk’s mind because an opening statement doesn’t have to be proven or believed. It just has to be possible. I understand his frustration but whether he likes it or not, the finder of the dead body of any missing person much less a child is always a person of interest. It goes with territory of being the hero. Like it or lump it. Just as no one believes Zenaida Gonzalez had anything to do with Caylee’s death, no one believes Roy Kronk did either. Fear not Roy Kronk. Word on the web is Casey got away with murder. Okaaaaayyy..
Opening Statement:
A contest for the imagination of the jury. Get into their world.
It’s a pity Mr. Kronk couldn’t keep his story straight from the beginning. It’s also a pity that OCSO failed to follow through on his reports in mid-August of 2008. I’m positive had the right thing happened then, no one would have raised an eyebrow but being that he was at the crime scene no less than 3 different times before December 11, 2008, I wouldn’t be surprised if his own attorney had his suspicions.
It matters not that the local media had already tried, convicted and sentenced Casey Anthony to death when his call on the morning of December 11th to law enforcement was finally answered, he should never have assumed her attorneys wouldn’t use any of his inconsistencies against him.
From the sound of Roy Kronk’s arrogance in his recorded interviews with law enforcement, he seems to perceive himself as a smart guy therefore he should know that this IS the name of the game for any good defense attorney who is trying to save the life of their client.
Roy Kronk was a gift to the defense team, not that it was his fault but certainly the circumstances of the finding of Caylee Anthony goes beyond the norm. Needless to say, Casey Anthony’s attorney Alan Greene will have a field day with deposing Roy Kronk.
I understand Kronk’s frustration with the Orange County Sheriff’s Office but this isn’t the way to make it right or make a living or as he vehemently claims in one of his interviews, “everybody has to eat“.
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Luckily, I copied this report from ClickOrlando.com in June 2011 because the link is no longer working so here it is again just to keep it alive and kicking. I hate to see the facts of this case disappear. There were far too many hinky tidbits in this case.
Tidbit #3
Eleven years ago, in a 1997 report from Kingsport, Tennessee, Kronk called in a tip to investigators that they would find several stolen guns and other items in a wooded field but when officers searched the field they were unable to find any of the items Kronk had reported.
Incidentally, Jill Kerley lived only 2 hours from Kingsport, Tennessee. After reading this report, I think this validates Jill Kerley’s fear that Kronk was still intending to cause her harm. Jill Kerley told Jose Baez she had no idea that he was that close to her in 1997.
Considering this story is eerily similar to what Kronk did in Orlando, Florida, I can see where the Defense team or anyone would raise an eyebrow.
Find firearms report here:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24443621/detail.html
The banalities of life are juxtaposed against
wildly alive scenarios that play in our minds.
So I say to Roy Kronk,
good luck and better luck with the National Enquirer.
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TheJBMission~
Sources:
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/roy-kronk-suing-casey-anthony/nF7GS/#recall
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/time-to-get-kronk-ed/
Here it is. I knew I heard something about it.
http://theclicker.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/29/9799417-medical-examiner-in-casey-anthony-case-speaks-out
As for the information she’ll present on “Dr G: Inside the Caylee Anthony Case,” which airs Sunday night on TLC, Garavaglia wants to make one thing clear: she’s simply providing information about the case, not profiting from it.
So this explains Dr G’s appearance on the Today Show. :rolls eyes:
She also made a direct statement claiming she’s donating to children’s charities.
Blah blah blah..
When these people make these types of statements regarding money and how they aren’t making a dime off of little Caylee only tells me that they’re just playing up to the Haters.
So no, there’s nothing special about Dr G’s Special. IMO, She just feels dumb since Dr Shultz called her out on the “shoddy” autopsy she performed on little Caylee Anthony.
Grow up Dr G! Nobody’s perfect and that includes you. LOL
Exactly Cat,
A little frightening considering how strong her hatred is for Casey and anyone who happens to think Casey may be innocent. These peeps don’t realize just how scary they are. Look at the pictures she put up on her blog. I mean, is this to attract a maniac that will do her bidding?
I’d be afraid of people like her. It’s okay to dislike someone or feel an injustice has taken place but to wish death by violence is another matter. JMO
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Hmm..HGM, is Cobra referring to the Cummings case? I sure hope so!
JB
yikes, was i stealing again? me and my damn kleptomaniac hands
that’s twice now… jb and col you two are just that good i couldn’t help myself, roflmao lolol
and thanks jb it is an honor to know you, i consider you a very insightful person with devotion to speaking your mind regardless to what others might think about it, i think that is brave and i find it a most admirable quality in a person, there was and is never any reason to re-create this joint, shit, you took me in when i was out there in the cold darkness of the world with my thoughts and welcomed me in, made a nice fire to warm my bones and finally speak freely w/o shame… i could never ever copy that, your one of a kind lady
i wouldn’t say so much that i have this blog’s same content, i actually never did or expect to get into the type of dialog i have in there, i am open to it and love it,
what i am trying to do in my blog is to have one place where discovering and learning about a case is done with ease…with as many folks that are savvy to the internet and how to travel thru it, there are so many that just don’t know how. but yet they want to learn, they want to know, they want to see it with their own eyes, i wanted there to be a place they could go and do just that, like a library of sorts, lolol not sure if i am explaining it right, but it pleases me to see so many folks get that chance to see things (videos, documentation, theories, discovery) they would have otherwise missed… and you could stop by one hundred times, look up stuff watch read, and never ever feel i would be offended if you never ever posted a comment… i mean, libraries do tend to stay quiet so it is all good to me
the jb mission is where i express and have those chats about things that we all ponder on, it didn’t need to be replicated imho… i may even spend more time here then on my own blog
btw…which was the site you all were talking about, i am curious to check it out. what an odd thing to do. i get general set ups being similar, as not many folks can create blog page codes, so of course there is going to be slight similarities. but it is weird to me not to personalize your own page over time, make it your special content, design and feel.
but how fudged up is that to wish that someone would die and post that all over for the world to see, it’s like the scarlett letter… you may not have done a thing to deserve to wear it, but they tattoo it on you for life… what a shame…
Hello my peoples !!;)
Whew,, that took me forever to catch up on my reading!
Kept falling asleep and having to reread trying to find where I had left off, this went on for 2 days at least ..lol
The Holidays has me mentally and physically pooped,, with my other halfs family being extremely broken, and thankfully all still living, we end up having nearly a weeks worth of Xmas and it’s FINALLY over. YaY!!
Got Keith Albrows book for Xmas, only into the first chapter so far.
When Im done I’ll mail it to the first taker, media mail is super cheap so its on me
I love this Judge Munyon chick!! Lmao
Imagine that… Takes a chick to show they have some balls!!
You know, I’ve never heard this brought up but I was thinking asides from Ashton and Perry obviously being in cahoots, anyone ever think that Perry maybe just plain hated Casey after her jailhouse letters were released?
Remember where she talked quite a bit about the black inmates? She said they had no class along with other somewhat not so nice racial remarks.
I do not believe KC is racist a bit and I know the ” ghetto type ” she was taking about , yet I wonder if Perry took offense and held it against her ? ?
Wondering what y’all thought .
Hi Indy!!
Glad you made it through your holidays intact! It’s that way for me too…..multiple days’ worth of family gatherings. Geesh….it’s exhausting!
Let me know how Ablow’s book is…..I think there’s some decent family insight there….but ultimately, I think he concludes that Casey killed her child. Not sure, though, cuz I’ve only read excerpts here and there. I could download it onto my kindle, but just haven’t yet!
And I never thought of Perry reacting to her jail house letters before, but you know, you could be right. Maybe it’s partly that, partly bowing to public pressure, and partly the good ol’ boys network……he and Ashton had worked together before to prosecute a case. I also think that, since his papa was a cop, he had an automatic propensity to side with LE REGARDLESS of what they did. Yes, most cops are upstanding citizens who should be commended for their service….but there is always a bad apple or two that stinks up the cart. I’m speaking of LE…..and I have known many, many cops personally who were not always upstanding if you get my drift. And I hear cop talk, and I know that all their motives and behaviors are not always above board. It’s sad that it’s that way….but unfortunately, it’s true. I guess I said all that to say that I think Perry understands really well how LE works, and having had a dad who was LE, he just naturally sided with them.
Oh…and just to set the haters straight…..you know, those ones who come here and read, and then run elsewhere and accuse us of being pot-heads and junkies and criminals…..I’ve never been in trouble with the law. In fact…..I work with a branch of the law. I don’t drink, smoke, sleep around and I’ve only EVER had one speeding ticket….for doing 42 in a 35. So…..NOT that I owe those sorry excuses any explanation….but I just thought I’d lay it out there for when the next batch comes here to read…..and just in case they want to send this on over to ol’ Belvin..Bwahaaaaa!
Hello SpideyGirl,
You say the kindest things. Thank you very much. 
Parisite is now known as CrimeGal “whatever”, lol, I forgot. Just google crimegal at wordpress and you should find her. PS, Be sure to use full armor before clicking. 
Hey IndyGal & Omar,
BTW, Let me know about Ablow’s book. I might take you up on your offer.
Nice to see yall.
I know, right Indygal! It took a woman, not to be bullied by public opinion. I just love Judge Munyon.
Well, I’m glad you all made it thru the holidays. Reminds me of old times when my kids were younger, having to tote them everywhere to get their presents, now it’s a lot less traveling. Thankfully. now I get to relax and watch football games.
As for Perry, he certainly had a bee in his bonnet, didn’t he? :visual: lol Maybe he did find KC to be a racist? Yet, I don’t recall anything blatantly racial coming from Casey’s letters but people do read into things sometimes. IDK, all I know he was biased and awfully anti-Baez as was the entire courtroom except for Mason.
Sometimes I wonder if it was because in their perfect little court room setting, Terrence Lenamon (sp) would defend Casey, JA would be lead prosecutor, JP at the bench, they could be wheeling and dealing, having a good Ole-Boy time with KC’s life, convincing her that she didn’t stand a chance, TL would insist she cop a plea, and all attorneys walk away hand in hand, discussing their hopes and dreams of writing a book.
It’s already come to fruition for JA and Terrence Lenamon has recently released his self published book.
I think Baez was a real Pain in the a$$ for them. With Baez in the mix, it changed everything. Baez didn’t graduate HS, he earned a GED then went to law school on a GI Bill. How dare he!
They didn’t like the idea of a low-budget attorney defending their notorious defendant. JMHO..but I think that had something to do with it too.
That and like Omar pointed out, Perry being the son of a cop, naturally was a cop’s judge so he couldn’t see how badly LE mishandled this case.
Whatever the reason, I can honestly say, I’ve never seen such animosity towards any defense attorney like I did with Baez. It was horrible and painful to watch. Baez is MY HERO! He’s made me believe in the American judicial system. I know some people think it was a bad thing that he accepted money from Casey’s pictures of Caylee. IMO, he earned and he needed it to defend his client. If Casey Anthony would have been represented by a public defender, she would be sitting on death row today.
Sorry for the rant.. But thinking about how unfairly Baez was treated, it gets my blood boiling. Shame on them.
JB, I think Casey & Baez are the ONLY people who should have been paid for ANYTHING Caylee. No matter how Caylee died she would never even have been born had it not been for CASEY ANTHONY!!!
JB, The funny thing was Ol Cobra was talking about Jeffy Boy. I’ll check into it further from home where I can reach my twitter. LOL
Wooo Hoooo HGM!! Can’t wait!
JB December 30, 2011 at 3:23 am
I love this line in post “Baez didn’t graduate HS, he earned a GED then went to law school on a GI Bill. How dare he!”
I always love the underdog and Baez was certainly the underdog in SO many ways…but he went in there and kicked some booty! I know he got behind in his child support at one time…and people hate him for that. If ANYONE should hate that about him, it should be me. I am a single mom of 3 with absolutely NO child support coming in…it’s been in court for over two years with the CSEA, but they keep giving him review after review of his “contempt charges” and letting him off because he gets a note from his doctor saying he can’t work. Oops…that’s a whole ‘nother story and I digress!
So, due to my own circumstances, if anyone should “hate” someone for not paying child support, it should be me. However, what I see in Baez is a man who has NOT had things handed to him…he has had to work hard for what he has. People make fun of him because he sold bikini bathing suits…at least he was working! I’m sure he had a goal in mind…those are the type of people I love…people who are willing to do the not so glamorous things to reach their goals. He has restored the faith in the justice system to me. He is an attorney who, if he believes in his client, will fight tooth and nail for them! I saw so much compassion in him…he was not cocky the way JA was…ohhh, I dispise that man. I can’t believe he said something to the effect, “Jose was arrogant, and had not earned the right to be.” I think he’s earned the right to say to you Jeffey…I whooped your a**!!” But, Baez is too classy for that…so let me say it…Jeffey Boy, Jose Baez came into your territory and ripped you apart…he wiped that cocky little smile right off your face!”
When Baez spoke in Spanish after the verdict, I was told he was thanking his mom…who, like me is a single mom. I can only hope my boys grow to be the compassionate man that Jose has turned out to be. JB…he is my HERO too!
Indy,
Skimmed over Ablows book. IMO, he totally ignores George’s past and his side of the family,. He touches on mostly Cindy’s family how both parents suffered loss, losing a parent, and abandoned by them. All in one family. Shirley losing her father as well as Cindy’s father’s father walking away from the family…So, the dysfunction was set in stone from the great,great grandparents on Cindy’s side….According to Ablow.
But he totally ignores the fact that GEorge’s family has mental illness in their history as George’s sister was committed I believe with bi-polar? So, for him to overlook that and GEorge’s past is irresponsible…..Just sayin…
Good morning all. I’ve been going in so many directions but trying to stay up to date on reading here. Many good comments to ponder. I was pondering the outgoing year with the numerology in mind. Ignoring the millenia, it has been an 11 year, the number of Justice. I know Ashton calls it imperfect justice but if you look at the year as a whole and all the big trials I think we can safely say it was a year of justice. Not only was Casey acquitted because there was absolutely no evidence that she purposefully killed Caylee, but a doctor was held accountable for the drugs he gives to patients, and many wrongful convictions were overturned and innocent people set free. Here are a few.
Amanda Knox
Juan Rivera http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/magazine/dna-evidence-lake-county.html?pagewanted=all
The West Memphis 3, just to name a few.
2012 is a year of reversal, also called the Hanged Man, in the Tarot. Many call this the Judas vibration, bringing reversal, suspension, sacrifice. We know that reversal is the definition of repentance, which is a change or reversing the mind. Peter is the one that was said to be hung upside down though and if we look closely at the story we see that Jesus sent Judas to report his wherabouts to the authorities. I believe the important message of 12 is to be willing to look at things backwards or upside down in order to see that sometimes what we think is reality is really an illusion, a mirror image, like our reflection in water or not what it seems to be. It is the paradox that seems contradictory, but yet is true. It should be an interesting year. Many expect the reversal to be with our North and South poles or some other major shift. It may be different than many expect but I expect a surprise or two and some changes (the full meaning of 2012). 12 has been so important throughout history, the 12 disciples, 12 knights of the round table, 12 signs of the zodiac, the celestial path of the Sun, 12 sons of Isreal, to name a few. We don’t have as many modern uses but one remains, the most common number for the jurors used to decide the fate of those accused. They surely sacrfice a great deal.
May our year be filled with enlightenment, expansion, love and generosity toward our fellow man and woman. Happy new year, a couple of days early.
Very thoughtful and thought provoking post Zuben! Thank you!
There is one irony here about Jeffy and him being the first to use DNA in the courtroom. He bragged about that (as well as many other things, the dear little braggerd!). It is irony that scientific evidence – or rather the lack of it – should come back to bit him in the a$$? No scientific evidence submitted in the Casey Anthony case, no conviction! LOL, and he says in his book that the jury should have convicted her even without considering his “Junk Science” (my words, not his). Poor Jeffy, you can’t have it both ways son.
Noni,
Amazing how Jeff Baby Huey A$$ton describes his defeat. Twisting the truth, like he did the so called DNA evidence. It doesnt take a 5th grader to know that the back of that car never held human decomposition. Perhaps if he brought forward such evidence and then link it to CAsey then it would’ve been a win win situation, then he could pat himself on the back. HE IMO made a complete fool out of himself, as he is right now by whoring himself through the media outlets. I guess my wish for a public firing of all the SA’s involved in this case wont come true however actions speaks louder than words. He’s doing fine by himself making himself look a fool that he actually is. IMOO
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Gascan, I couldn’t agree more! He’s doing fine all by himself..lol
jB
Zub,
Thanks for the links, it’ll keep me busy. Now , I hope 2012 brings justice for Caylee in one way or another. Hopefully CAsey will step forward and set the record straight and bring those involved in her daughter’s death to the forefront….After all, I think she owes it to CAylee…..I hope it’s just a matter of time……
GCG- agree! The sorriest thing is blaming Lamar for re-instituting the death penalty! He might have had to OK it but I have NO DOUBT whose idea it was, LOL! Jeffy wanted this win for his run at Lamar’s job. Sadly, this LOSER who worked as an ASSISTANT prosecutor for 30 years and and never made it to HEAD PROSECUTOR will probably make it in the elections because these idiots will vote for him. Well, they get what they deserve, LOL! Wonder if it was his bar sanctions and reversals that kept him as only an assistant? He is a sore loser taking advantage of Caylee’s case and making all that blood money. They can have him – bet we hear more about his misconduct when he gets into office, LOL!
OMG>…totally off topic, I know….but I just had to let you all know that I have the MOST awesome kids EVER…..
Guess whose kids bought her a NO SAINTS hoodie for her birthday????
That’s right…..Omar’s kids!!
Who DAT???
PS….no, it’s not my birthday yet….but they couldn’t wait the almost 2 weeks til my birthday, so they gave it to me today!
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Welcome to the WhoDat Nation! I’m just tickled for you. Your KIDS ROCK!! Go Saints!!
AWWWWW…. (((((Hugs)))) Happy Birthday OMAR!!
JB
LOL Omar! Wonder how they knew you were a Saints fan? LMAO! Kids can be such dear hearts can’t they! Happy Birthday Omar (2 weeks early!)
Awww…..thank you, Noni!! Kids sure are sweet.
What is really touching is that they each got a $20 gift card for Christmas from one of their grandmas, and they put their gift cards together and added some of their own money with that to get me the hoodie instead of buying something for themselves. It might sound crazy to some folks, but that makes this hoodie the most precious gift to me!! How sweet of them. I almost cried!
Happy BD Omar!
My 50th was in Nov. But I have to say it doesnt bother me a bit. My daughter gave me a Nook for Christmas, love it!.,,,I’m also going to be a grandparent next week as my grandson will be born on the 5th, first for me! CAnt wait….Happy 2012
Hi my dear friends! I hope everyone had a wonderful christmas! Mine was super busy but very well worth it.. it was my grandson’s first christmas & omg it was so precious watching him christmas morning! that’s what christmas is all about..
VERY busy these past few days makin & filling cup cake and cookie orders for parties but I had a few minutes and I wanted to pop in and say happy new year to you all in case I can’t get back tomorrow night…i sure am grateful I met such a fine group of people and I look forward to all the great things that we will accomplish in 2012. You guys have NO idea how special each and everyone of you are to me and I know ive said it before but THANK YOU JB for creating the mission & bringing together such beautiful, intelligent, kind hearted, and all around super people! Love you guys & I hope 2012 brings you ALL good health & happiness
Hi Addie! I am so happy your grandson’s Christmas was such a joy for you all. How precisous to see holidays thru their eyes. Hope your coming year is filled with happiness and joy.
Oh GCG – how wonderful it is to be a grandparent!! It amazed me to see my child hold their child for the first time – to me I really understood what immortality meant. I am happy for you! Happy belated 50th! Such a milestone! LOL, a half a century old. I passed that a decade ago so don’t feel bad.
Looks like Jeffey has some big announcement on Tuesday. I get the feeling that all of this…the showboating at the trial, the book, the endless pimping himself to any Tv show that will have him has been done to get his name out there so he can run for SA. Too bad he lost the trial…makes things a little more complicated. What a loser.
Happy early birthday Omar! Missed you too! My son & nephew put together their gift cards they received as gifts & bought me a new set of NICE knives. I cried as well cuz theyre 15 & 17yr old boys & I thought that was the sweetest thing any of my children have ever done! We deserve a pat on the back too because we raised them right
Oh yes Noni, it was sooo awesome to see his little eyes light up and the smile on his face… I will remember that forever
Jill-that’s exactly what he is going to announce. Maybe that’s what Orange County deserves – Jeffy Loser A$$ton as SA! Lamar had to take Jeffy’s decision to go for the death penalty and allow him to say it was his to help the loser win the position. We’ll see how intelligent the voter’s are in this county won’t we?
Hello ALL! HAPPY NEW YEARS EVE EVE!~!!!! Well Has anyone heard anything about Judge Munsons ruling yet? I thought was gonna hear by end of year lol, since Monday a holiday…. OK, back to catching up, I see the lil newer comments…..
OH, RE Casey’s stuff and Caylee’s remains… After reading more the other night, I wonder to myself and now share with yall, if possibly the A’s did have a burial of the ashes in private. I dont want to put too much of my thoughts out there you get my drift, but there are many ways for peace. I do have empathy for this family in the big sense that they could not mourn in private. GOD knows they put themselves out there so much but on the human side… Also I truly feel alot was said and done by CA and most esp GA because they felt there was no way CA was going to be out of jail. IMHO …. ok back to catching u[
yay GCG congrats!!!
and so happy to see all the awesome posts of great news for everyone, the world is full of good people and good events, so glad that i get to hear of this type of news, cuz bad news is just yucky!!
rock on everyone and i send the best always your way, a most happy and joyous new year to all missionites, you seriously are the cat’s meow!!
i know it’s early but i couldn’t resist omar… this one is for you !!
Awww…..Congrats GasCan!!! Grandbabies are the best gift ever!! And Happy belated 50th to you!!!!
ADDIE!!! Thank you, I missed you too! That was really precious of your sons…..you definitely raised them right!!!
And Happy New Year to all of you fine folks at the Mission. It feels good to be amongst friends. Wishing all of you the very best in 2012!!
OH GCG!!!! CONGRATS CONGRATS CONGRATS!!!! It is so true ~ that if we would have known how much fun GRANDchildren were, we would have had them first ~ I am so super excited for you! My first one was born in Okinawa Japan, so I didnt get to see if for a bit. My youngest dtr did get to go. Me and my oldest split the airfare so she could be there. SO I did get tons of pix and worth more than any earthly form of currency!!!
Happy Early BD OMAR!!!! LOL mine is right after yours a lil bit….
GOT JB ON MY MIND lol Hoping LSU will ROLL BAMA BIG TIME!!!! BIG SEC rivals of ours. LOL only time I dont like LSU is when comes time to play them
And just CANT STAND BAMA!!! LOL all in fun….
Oh I am so excited for GCG and his lovely family!!!!
Thanks, Mimi!!
What day is your BD on?
LOL like I am gonna put it on HERE lol!
I will have to find a way to let you know…hmmmm….. 
OHHH
I got an email from Misty, she and her family are doing better. She has been helping out her Granny…. Sends her love will be back soon!
Thank you and you’re quite welcome.
Noni, as far as I know Ashton has never been sanctioned, even when he withheld exculpatory evidence. Either Perry didn’t have a problem with it, no one bothered to report him to the bar or the bar didn’t care. If I’m wrong, someone please correct me and share the link. I’d love to know that he has been held accountable.
This year hasn’t only brought justice though. This case caught my attention because I’ve read several other cases where the “victim” admits lying but prosecutors won’t let go and the judge won’t overturn the conviction. This man walked into his preliminary hearing facing 11 counts of sexual misconduct and walked out charged with 12 even though one of the “victims said he and the others fabricated this lie in order to get out of this group home. Terpening is the father of 8 and is the director for a home for troubled teens. The witness was threatened with perjury charges if he didn’t stick by his original story but he doesn’t care, has gone to the media with his story. To make matters worse, when Terpening was let out on bond he was ordered not to go home and can only see his children for an hour at the office of DHS. Then to make matters even worse, when his 12 year old was bullied at school over all this and began acting out his frustration, instead of the school calling the parents to get their help, they called the state police and CPS. Next thing he knows, his son is also charged with CSC, 4 counts of 4th degree, as well as assault and battery. The judge ordered him not to talk to his son about these charges or even to tell him he loves him and would be home soon. http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/gun_lake_region/michael-terpening-hearing-september-12-2011 and http://www.wwmt.com/news/charges-1399981-barry-terpening.html there are several videos in follow up stories in the side bar.
Now, some of the public are just like the Casey haters but some of the citizenry aren’t taking this lying down. He has a lot of supporters and they are speaking out loudly. Many of them came to the initial hearing and the judge banned the public from the courtroom. The prosecutor said they were there to intimidate them. He said something like he knows there’s a turnip truck but he didn’t just fall off from it, what ever that means. This guy isn’t laughing yet but he reminds me of Ashton, with his cocky attitude. Tthe info under this youtube video says, “For each child that is removed from a home CPS receives between $3,000 and $5,000 per month per child. This family alone can bring CPS $288,000 – $480,000 per year (approx), via Title 4-D funding and TANF.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIS19-9nlNY
I thought I should check out the facts in the above statement and it seems to be true. Not only is prison industries profitable but so is establishing child support, enforcement, protective services and foster care. It always bothered me that the state paid my dad to take care of me as a foster child instead of simply giving us to him when they took us away from my mom. It didn’t help us, although it must have helped their family finances. But it kept us in the juvenile home for months while they went through the red tape. So, I looked up when Title IV was enacted. It was the same year as my placement in my dad’s home as a foster child. They could legally do that and get Federal money because he had signed off from us for our step dad to adopt, ending his child support obligation. See part D here http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title04/0400.htm TANF is Federal Welfare that is given to states to disperse and manage.
This story makes me furious. There are just too many cases where the CSC laws are being used and abused. That doesn’t diminish the need to stop real offenders but there needs to be someone to police the authorites because they are using the system. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there is also Federal money involved in the state judicial system that gives them incentive to prosecute false claims. Now, that would be some valuable research.
Just popped over to the OtherSide while in search to see if I missed anything about a ruling on if Casey can still plead the 5th, and at the top of comments of last article abt this case, I saw this comment from Our Very OWN NTS…. I totally agree. When I first heard that this ME also had a show on TV it floored me. Seems like to me anyway taking time away from her JOB. LOL I have heard people say CSI and stuff in ref to Quincy, but hey Quincy WAS a TV SHOW lol. Oh here is NTS COMMENT….
There is so much romance between hollywood and the law that people begin to believe the hollywood effect. The csi effect, but in this case, the Dr actually becomes part of the hollywood fiction and expects people to fall for her drama. If the child was murdered, then she needs to say the child was murdered. She hides behind that word homicide in which includes accident, just fit for the hollywood drama. Law enforcement and state santioned agency should not be for profit. IMO
Reply Posted by: notthatsmart | Friday, December 30, 2011 at 2:46 PM
I TOTALLY AGREE! This person SHOULD NOT be profiting for a show while being an active ME AND IMHO, it is not very ethical of her doing a show about a true life case she was involved in. That really gets under my collar a bit. And all the stuff these other characters are doing/have done and they still want to throw out the same few thing that tick them off about Jose Baez?
Zuben, I agree so much with your post. I have some friends I grad from HS with that are foster parents. One of them lost her only child at age 11. She and her husband decided a few yrs later to be foster parents. They had a lil girl around age 2 and her sister who, the baby came straight home from the hosp. P&J were the only parents these lil girls EVER knew. They had no visitation with their bio family. P&J wanted to adopt after had had like 4 yrs, but the state said nope, they were too old (45 yrs old and already had for 4 yrs!) So they moved the girls to ANOTHER FOSTER HOME! OH and get this, P&J get like $4oo for ea child, but with that money they have to cloth and buy anything the child needs. The child gets medicaid, but there are over the counter stuff they dont pay for. AND the kids come with nothing but the clothes on their backs. So thats school stuff and all. Yep the state makes $ for sure. Oh and you have to have income coming into home and not dependent upon the money from the kids. (I respect and agree with that, but to a point, because the foster parent has to take child to and from any dr, court, therapy, to/from school whatever. So I too can see how it can cause hardship of not having enough foster parents. UGGGGG soft spot for me (never been in that situation in anyway, but worked for Office of Child Support Enf for 4 yrs)
LOL just read the article from OS stating There certainly has been speculation former prosecutor Jeff Ashton may make a run for the Ninth Circuit State Attorney’s Office. A press release was sent out Friday, saying an “important announcement” will happen at 11 a.m. Tuesday on the steps of the Orange County Courthouse.
Just think, this is gonna be like Roy’s civil suit…. some things are sure to come out and I am sure some will not be favorable and we will be ready to listen.
Thankfully, this too will not have any affect on my daily lives, but I do fill for our fiends down that way….
Ok and a question I ment to ask earlier. Can someone clarify for me… did JA and JP when you say prosecuted a case together, are you meaning as a Pros Team. I know I had read that JA had been a Pros in JP courtroom before. Yep, Omar good ole boys system. They are in every form of work. But when its concerning someones life, I think should be by the book.
In the case where Ashton withheld exculpatory evidence, Perry was the judge. Also, didn’t they both work the black widow case together?
I didn’t mean for those videos to post. If any were going to, the ones at the news link would be the most important to see. Sorry about that.
heya mimi!!
zuben i was reading some articles about child services a while back, and it actually didn’t paint most of those foster homes in such a good light, what i discovered was deaths, horrific accidents and abuse running through those homes, the even sadder part, is had those investigators checked a little harder into the claims against the parents, they would have found there were many unfounded allegations, those children should have stayed home…. it is certainly such a subject that gets swept under the rug, they do not always know what is best… sometimes they do, but lots of times, they do not…
but oddly enough i read this article a bit ago, i knew i had remembered the name when i heard it during the trial of KCA, it was weird cuz wen i read the article i didn’t put two and two together…but somehow you post made it click in my brain… check this out….
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-09-11/news/fl-rilya-wilson-murder-trial-20110908_1_geralyn-graham-pamela-graham-homicide-case Trial nears for woman charged with killing Rilya Wilson
- September 11, 2011 By Mike Clary, Sun Sentinel
The indictment alleges that Rilya was either suffocated or beaten to death sometime in December 2000.
When Graham was indicted by a grand jury in March 2005, State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle said, “she basically broke down and told someone in the jail details about Rilya Wilson, including how she killed her.”
That someone is believed to be career criminal Robin Lunceford, 48, who once shared a holding cell with Graham.
Lunceford told prosecutors that Graham admitted smothering Rilya with a pillow because the child insisted on wearing an “evil” Cleopatra costume instead of dressing as an angel for Halloween.
Graham said she buried Rilya’s body near a lake, Lunceford told investigators.
“She was in a whisper voice, like she couldn’t say it loud, she just said it like, whispered to me, ‘I killed it,”‘ Lunceford told prosecutors in a sworn statement.
Though she received a life sentence in 2005, this March Lunceford’s sentence was reduced to 10 years. In exchange she agreed to cooperate in the Graham prosecution.
“I expect she will be called to testify,” Lunceford’s attorney, Jon May, said on Thursday.
is this the same lady?
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/tag/robin-lunceford/ just scrolled thru past articles here in the mission and seems it is, if so, i would say that maybe she knew more about their story being a lie… it doesn’t seem she was looking for any gain in this information to the defense team, she just wanted them to know they were possibly being ambushed from within the prison… otherwise wouldn’t RL have said, let me be a part of this and get reduced sentence for telling you about how KCA killed her child to the prosecutors… why would she not do that instead of just offering the info as a fyi to defense? or did i miss something with this lady?
either way, this story has so many twists, i don’t think hollywood could make one like it if they tried, truth is way stranger then fiction…
Zuben – went to read the story about Mr. Terpening and found this newest article. This is almost the exact same thing they did to Casey!:
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/gun_lake_region/Terpening-charged-with-insurance-fraud
HASTINGS, Mich. (WOOD) – Michael Terpening, who already faces 12 counts of sexual assault, was also charged with felony insurance fraud in the Barry County District Court on Friday.
The fraud allegedly occurred on Feb. 25, 2011. Details have not been released.
Terpening, 32, has been released from police custody on bond for his other charges.
Police will take Terpening back into custody for the new charge.
THIS IS SCARY! If they want you they are going to find some way to get you! Very, very scary.
Dont even get me started about the foster care system and CPS ( child protective services) I went thru a living HELL with the NY state CPS when my nephew went into foster care & I filed for custody of him…omg I went thru 4YEARS of hell & it all came down to $$$ cuz hes special needs…ill explain more when I recover my hijacked laptop from my aunt lol it was terrible & I cant believe they get away with what they do! After I got custody of him they launched an investigation into my case and my CPS worker that was supposed to be HELPING my sister & nephew was FIRED immediately! There are others just like her though and it sickens me! Its so sad..
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Hi Addie, Do tell. Someone in a very authoritive position once told me, “if you don’t like someone, report them to CPS.” Hmm.. I didn’t like hearing that from her. It’s makes you wonder…
JB
Addie just informed me that WESH reported that Jeffy is gonna run lol WOW can only imagine the muddy waters! Here is the link… THANKS ADDIE!!! lol with someone else running besides Lamar L and Jeffy, gonna get some heat going lol. What is really funny to me, is A LOT of the folks who prob bought books and so forth and his FB following, DO NOT EVEN LIVE IN THAT AREA! So IMHO no matter how much love is being showed, the only ones that really matter are the potential voters in the county he is running for office in.
Source: Jeff Ashton To Announce State Attorney Run
Former Prosecutor Plans ‘Important Announcement’ On Tuesday
Florida’s elections office shows two declared candidates for the 9th Circuit state attorney race in 2012 right now — one is Lamar, the other is Matthew Ryan Williams, a former prosecutor. As of Friday afternoon, Ashton had not filed paperwork with the state.
Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/30105733/detail.html#ixzz1i5E9Ozls
Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/30105733/detail.html#ixzz1i5DikWcK
LOL Found this over on Orlando Sentinal ***** duh this made me choke laughing********
Casey Anthony prosecutor Jeff Ashton to make ‘important’ announcement Tuesday
As of Friday evening, the Florida Division of Elections website does not show any filing from Ashton reflecting his intent to seek public office.
But Orlando defense attorney Joerg Jaeger, a Lamar supporter, said Friday that Ashton has “had lunch meetings with people all over town” about running for State Attorney. “This is not a big secret.”
******Jaeger said Ashton first told him about his intentions to run in the months before the Anthony trial. At that time, according to Jaeger, the prosecutor expected the case to make him “a minor celebrity” with national name recognition.*********
If Ashton does run for state attorney of the 9th Judicial Circuit, he won’t be Lamar’s only challenger in 2012.
Ryan Williams, another former prosecutor in the 9th Judicial Circuit, is also running against his ex-boss.
Lamar has served as state attorney since 1989. Before taking that office, Lamar was Orange County sheriff. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-jeff-ashton-announcement-20111230,0,1232586.story
Talking about being PIZZED off cause he didnt get his way, lol Read what John Morgan has to say!
Casey Anthony will not have to answer questions in civil case
Snippet:
We disagree with Judge Munyon’s ruling. However, in the end it changes nothing.
Casey Anthony will be forced to answer our questions. Some of those questions will be, ‘Did you kill your child?’; ‘Where did you kill your child?’; ‘Did anyone help you dispose of your child’s body?’
We will play Jose Baez’s opening statement and ask her to tell us which part of it is a lie. She will then be forced to answer our questions. Her answers may be, ‘I plead the Fifth Amendment,’ but by God, she is going to answer all of our questions, which could potentially take days to ask.
She will have to answer them in front of Zenaida Gonzalez and look her in the eye and sit through another trial. The jury will then determine what they think about Casey Anthony’s answers.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/december/363626/Casey-Anthony-will-not-have-to-answer-questions-in-civil-case.html
UMMMM did you kill your child? where did you kill your child? did anyone help you dispose of your childs body? ummmm what the hell does this have to do with ZG? WHO by the way lied or MORGAN LIED in their court filing in naming her ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ GONZALES !!! YEP that there lil snippet proves to me that he is just in it for himself! Trying to say HE got Casey to talk!
Know what is funny to me, I have been waiting for a text from Orlando Sentinal, I signed up during the trial and have gotten a text when something happens. Then I go read on their site when I get a chance. WELL, Addie let me know this evening about Judge Munsons response. Funny thing is I didnt read anything about it on OS or at the OtherSide either. Seems kinda funny that the haters central didnt mention it! LOL Only an article on an Elected Official ~ Medical Examiner, who also has a TV show, and talking on it about the case which was the ME. IMHO it seems like a conflict of interest having the show to begin with. OH but let any of the Def attnys say something …well you know the rest….
OH MY GOSH, they have a letter going, lol wanting people to sign and gonna PRESENT it to MORGAN for ZFG! LOL Thought that wasnt your name Zenaida? Made me giggle tho.
I saw posted on TCD that GA and CA had Christmas in Italy, I was looking for something else and the post about the Italy trip came up on google. So I am now gonna try to find it. Dang if true, they sure are jet setters out of this tragedy huh…
Well that whole mess about GA & CA in Italy from what I can see is just folks spreading lies as rumors…
OOPS ment to say spreading lies and rumors as fact.
Question: So as I understand, ZG case is set for trial in April. Ok, IF Casey’s appeal is still not resolved at that time, she will still be able to plead the 5th, so then what? Is Morgan banking on the hate for Casey to win his case? Not on Merits …. guess I know the answer to that one..
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@Lil_Megz until her appeal is finalized.
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I know Arkie! Who in the H E double L does he think he is?
“Casey Anthony will be forced to answer our questions.”
What’s he going to do, beat it out of her? He’s full of hot air! He’s a fool, just like Ashton.
Happy Birthday Omar!!
Welcome to the WhoDat Nation!!
The Saints are peaking now, so who knows??
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hehehehehe… ohhh that’s right lol
JB
Arkie,
I’m so sick of these idiots profitting off of Caylee. It’s sick! Again, I’ve NEVER seen anything like it. What’s with Florida? Are all the officials that hard up for a bit of fame?
And he didn’t win! He lost! He couldn’t even get a child abuse conviction out of the Anthony case. He’s a loser but sadly he’ll probably win. Why, because he’s making a name for himself by spewing hatred for Casey Anthony. I’d like to know, what else has he done for the state of Florida.
I hate to admit it.. as a spectator, (thank God I don’t live in Florida) it’s going to be fun to watch Ashton make faces again. He sure gave Lamar alot of material.. Lamar will probably use the Laughing Man video in his campaign ads too…LOL
Yep, yep, yep..sounds like a good time to me.
OMG, Spidey, they must put Lunsford in holding with everyone they take in. Yes, its the same jail snitch. I remember reading a connection to Miami too. Here’s an article with a photo at the bottom. Same person. Apparently she was offering to sell her testimony. The state wanted 20 years, she wanted to give only 3. She refused to stick by her lie all the way to trial because they wouldn’t reduce it to what she wanted. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wilson_rilya.html Graham was supposed to go to trial in October of this year but I didn’t see an article. I found this one that compares to the Anthony trial though, pointing out that they have just as little evidence or less and that no one cares to cover this case like they do the Antony case. Sad http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/06/2302785/rilyas-death-not-the-stuff-of.html
Happy Birthday a little early, Omar. A Cappy, huh? I can buy that. You’re commanding, no nonsense presence takes the lead easily, when you care to share your knowledge.
I agree this election should be entertaining, especially they way most campaigns these days involve mud slinging rather than speaking to the issues from their own perspective and record. Of course Ashton will avoid his recent record. He was a complete and utter failure. But, it sounds like he is prepared to blame his boss for twisting his arm, forcing him to seek the death penalty. Doesn’t matter though, even without that there was no evidence to get any time. How much taxpayer money did he spend on that fishing expedition?
Noni, thank you for that additional information. Additional charges help to scatter his and his attorney’s focus. Their facebook page describes the services they provided. It sounds very good. They run an animal shelter and adoption service, match a refugee with a troubled teen, to teach them discipline in care and obedience training, also teaching them life skills like balancing a check book, paying bills, etc. http://www.facebook.com/EARTH.Services?sk=info The person that is recanting his accusation said he wanted out of there bad. As many these days, he probably resented the chores and self discipline required. I think I’ve mentioned before that I am a Michigan resident. I might have also mentioned that I have documents that cost me an arm and a leg that prove that the state police forensic lab cut and pasted the test results from one person onto the identity of another person. There are two points of evidence. One is the cut and paste shadow they didn’t even bother to white out and recopy. The other is the fact that the bar code on one page doesn’t match another page of the same case. Now, I got another case paperwork to compare and confirmed that the barcode should be consistent throughout. I called the defense attorney who was formerly a prosecuting attorney, to alert him to this discrepancy and he blew me off, saying they don’t utilize the barcode function of the software. Bull! It’s a corrupt system. I would so love to get my hands on the resources required to get more of this type of evidence then publicize it and bust the scam wide open.
I don’t know how I keep drawing in people or circumstances that bring these types of things to light. Maybe because I care and have the guts to speak about it. But it is very frustrating because I don’t know how to make a real difference. I did try to involve media and my state representatives. The politicians just ignored me and the editor sent a reporter over to look at what I had but he said they would need more than just that one case in order to run with it. Isn’t that an investigative journalists job? Don’t they have more resources available than I do? It cost me $100 just to get 7 pages! I guess Michigan thinks their time and paper is worth more than Florida’s. The cost for Anthony docs was only a buck a page, which still is more than copy costs.
I am sharing this petition link because on signer is the biological mother of 5 of the adopted children in the Terpening family. http://www.change.org/petitions/return-michael-terpening-to-his-family
Here is testimony from a former case worker, child support and enforcement division. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqI33ILiQR8 I can’t find part 2
Here she explains how Friend of Court, handling child support is a money machine. I know that even when the parent is unemployed here, they will never lower the obligation below $40/week. They also put the parent in jail and won’t let them out until they pay all arrears, regardless of the ability to pay, once it gets so far behind. This brings money into more than one department, including prison industries, the county jail. Often the parent can’t get support adjusted without filing with the court. They raised the filing fee from $15 to over $200 last I heard. This video is a must see for information from an insider. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6olR6uTVf4&feature=related
Wow… Zuben, great posts here. I loved your astrological analysis on the number 12. Very well done and quite deep
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There is a lot to reply to, but the one thing that stuck out the most to me was the evidence of test results being falsified in those case documents. Did these tests include DNA? Not that we don’t know this type of thing happens, but to have some type of proof of it is definitely something. I have always had the feeling that some of this was done in the KCA case, too… Not sure to what extent, though. It does seem like DNA has become, yet, another double edged sword.
I’m sure everyone is busy today, preparing for another night of celebration
Just wanted to wish everyone a safe and Happy New Year!!
Hi, COL. Yes, I’ve been making some snack preparations to see in the new year. No this wasn’t a DNA test but the most important thing is that this was a test done by LE and it was used to convict someone of a felony which scars a person for life. Employers have a legal right not to hire anyone that has any kind of criminal history. Plus those people can not be bonded so many types of jobs are off limits anyway.
Back to the subject of Ashton potentially being held in contempt of court, I find it interesting that on April 13, he asks the court to bar the defense from mentioning anything that was revealed to the doctors until it has been proffered by the court and then the next day, the 14th, Burdick petitions the court to unseal the depositions, making quite clear that they are already sealed. The reason for this request is because she claims they cannot get an opinion without showing it to someone else. Why would Ashton feel the need to have the judge gag the defense over something that is already sealed but then his partner in crime ask to have it unsealed the next day, apparently being denied? Now, what is most interesting is that I find no order listed for either of these so I must assume the order is also sealed. See http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/High-Profile-Cases/Anthony/orders&motions.shtml for the time frame in question. Now, this subject was so sensitive or private that the judge didn’t even allow his order to be public but yet Ashton can sell the private information. It would make no sense for a judge to say it is sealed but tell him he can recite anything he wants from his memory or notes. He could have every detail in notes, if he is anything like me. No way would Perry tell him that. I think he is lying. Perry wouldn’t hide his order if he meant for Ashton to include details of the depos in his book or elsewhere.
Zuben – I hope you are right and that this is addressed before this duffis runs for office! He probably asked the book publisher lawyer about the legality of doing this. Hope it backfires in his face! What a nasty person to allow his anger to be the guide in his decision making, There is a reason he never made head prosecutor in 30 years. I would love to know what he did to embarrass the state that he was kept at that level. If they felt he needed the supervision of someone over him it has to mean his decision skills were lacking and he could not be trusted to call the shots in a case by himself!
Hot and sweet pepper cheese dip, herbed cream cheese hors d’oeuvres prepared and waiting. I think I’ll wait until tomorrow to make the cheese cake though. If I make it today, there won’t be anything left for tomorrow to follow homemade pizza unless I stand over it with a shotgun.
Dr. G is claiming that the bones, only 6 months old and sitting in a high humitity environment, in the shade, were too dry to test for diatoms or the microscopic organisims that would show and match the body of water that a victim drowned in. http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/dr-g-talks-about-examining-caylees-body-casey-anth/nGB2q/
She talks about nothing being left ON the bones. It isn’t what is ON the bones, Dr. G, it is what is in the bone.
Now, if we were stupid enough to believe they were too dry, consider the fact that the toxicology testing was done on those bones, the marrow of the left femur, which would also contain any diatoms. Also consider that Dr. Baden disagreed with her and says that they still could do this test on the evidence that was kept for trial.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/transcript/casey-anthony-case-csi-look-forensic-evidence
Hello Everyone and Happy Happy New Year! I’m hoping 2012 is a good year for all of us.
LOL, it’s kinda what I do naturally.
Personally speaking, 2011 was a good year but not my best. I’m humble and happy.
Thanks to all of you who have made me think. I’ve learned so much from all of you.
Zuben, I forgot to thank you for the 2012 prediction. Sounds interesting and I shouldn’t have any problem looking at things backwards.
If you don’t mind, I’d like to add your comment to the New Year’s post. It would be something cool to reflect on later during the year.
Thanks for bringing the Terpening story to light. It’s the stories that we don’t know about that scares me. CSC or as we call it CPS is sometimes abused and I believe its because (as in most situations) when you add MONEY into any cause, it’s often taken advantage of. For this, many people who would benefit are often denied. I just wish for more monitoring but even that system has its money grubbers. Believe me, I saw this first hand during Katrina. Everybody was a hustler.
Arkie,
As for Robin Luncesford, IIRC she contacted Baez after Maya Derkovic came forward in an interview with Kathi Belich. Derkovic was another jail house snitch. She told Belich that Casey yelled down an air condition vent that she used “clorofarm” (she couldn’t pronounce it) to knock Caylee out so she could go out and party. lol
Robin Luncesford’s intention was to inform Baez that she knew for a fact that Derkovic was going to lie on Casey to gain favors. There was a lot of hoopla about this phone call to Baez. The bloggers were going crazy hoping Baez had done something wrong.
Of course, it was all for naught because the PT didn’t use their jail house snitches after all.
Hmm..that right there told me that the PT’s case was weak. Anytime they have to stoop to using jailhouse snitches, it usually means they have no evidence. LOL I was right.
Thanks, JB. Anything here belongs to you. Of course you have my permission. I probably shouldn’t have used so many abbreviations in the comment. CPS is child protective services, just as you say but CSC is the common abbreviation for criminal sexual conduct. Everything imaginable falls under those laws. Here there are 4 degrees. 1 and 3 involve penetration, 2 and 4 are touching violations. That, in itself is confusing. You’d think that 2nd degree is worse than 3rd but that isn’t the case. It is even more confusing because a 3rd degree might involve a consenting couple where the mother wasn’t ready for her daughter to grow up, sometimes even though she is above the age of consent. But he and even a 4th degree inappropriate toucher is required to register just like a true 1st degree rapist. I read one story where a bar waitress busted a guy for patting her on the butt. Male sexual drive is a dangerous thing.
Are you having some bubbly tonight? I’m celebrating with my man and 5 kiddies.
Happy New Year to all my new friends! So happy to find this group of wonderful people. I love that you all seek truth and don’t just blindly follow what the media feeds you. I am blessed to know you all.
Aww.. Thank you Jill and same to you.
There’s a new thread up, just so you know. I don’t want you to feel alone.
Sorry I didn’t do my usual announcement.
Here goes..New Article Alert!
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/happy-new-year-2012-is-here/