“Casey Anthony and the “Conspiracy Factor”
Note* Written Wednesday, June 17, 2009
When I heard the word conspiracy, last night on Nancy Grace having to do with the Caylee Anthony’s murder, I almost fell out of my chair. Not because it’s so unbelievable but because somewhere in the back of my mind, I’ve always considered this a possibility.
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Clue #1
When I think back to the day and the first 911 call Cindy Anthony made on July 15th, it’s hard not to wonder what motivated her to call on this “particular” day.
Obviously, Cindy had concern for Caylee’s wellbeing as far back as July 3rd when she posted on My Space “My Caylee is Missing”. “Missing” is a strong word. True, this term could be meant as something else, but not likely. I would consider Cindy Anthony to have enough vocabulary to say what she means, so I’ll take it literally, she did indeed say missing.
She also went on to say that Casey was an ungrateful daughter, a liar, a thief, and a few other derogatory remarks and Cindy was the most unappreciated mother of the universe.
But as we all know now, this has changed, Casey is now the best mother a child could have. At least, that’s what Cindy Anthony says, now.
Let’s think about George. It’s been stated in a few interviews of friends and family, that he had a gambling habit, didn’t like to work much, did not approve of his daughter Casey’s lifestyle nor did he like her, if you ask Annie Downing. If you ask Shirley Plesea, she’d say he was lazy, had a bad temper and not much ambition or desire to be the bread winner of his family. Shirley would also tell you, Cindy, at some point was thinking of divorcing him, but quickly retreated when she found out that she’d lose her home and have to pay George alimony. George needed to be the kept man, he had become accustom. (Women have come so far in America)
This article came to mind because after yesterday’s developments; Leonard Padilla might testify that George lied about seeing Caylee on the 16th and Brad Conway’s remarks hinting, Casey Anthony may take the stand. The final comment, conspiracy, made me think this may be interesting considering we may hear about a conspiracy theory at trial,
So why not pose this question to the best minds around, the bloggers and see what other clues they think might points to a conspiracy.
Scenario:
So where’s the conspiracy? To even begin to fathom a conspiracy, you’d have to believe George lied to the Grand Jury. He lied when he said he saw his grand daughter the afternoon of June 16th. You would have to believe the neighbors Mark Fuhrman spoke with who said, yes, there was a loud argument coming from the Anthony home, Father’s Day 2008. You would have to believe Jim Hoover, who said Cindy took a baseball bat to a sacred holy cross and beat it to smithereens because she was angry. Yes, Cindy is violent.
Ask Lee Anthony. I noted how Cindy was willing to take on a protestor in front of her house. I might be a girly girl, but to me, Cindy sure showed me she wasn’t afraid of a fight. Cindy Anthony doesn’t back down easily. Ask Mr. Morgan. All of these small insignificant factors add up. Could a heated argument in this dysfunctional home turn into a violent fight? What if, in all of the mayhem there was an innocent child? What if, little Caylee got in the way? Who would be at fault then?
I can almost picture all of these selfish morons pointing fingers at each other. You did it, no you made me. What would they do? Would they call 911 for help and jeopardize their peachy keen persona they’ve worked so hard for in their community? Or would they go into protection mode. CYA?
I’m sorry I disappointed you.. I want to explain:
The point I’m trying to make is there’s a possibility of either the defense or the state may bring up a possible conspiracy. The conspiracy doesn’t necessarily have to involve the Anthony’s. I chose them because when mentioned on Nancy Grace, I didn’t know who else they could mean. Lee however, could easily have been an accomplice, after the fact.
I don’t think at any point there was a plan to murder this baby. I think it was either an accident or a moment of very bad anger or judgement on Casey’s part.
Please don’t misunderstand me because I’m talking about Cindy and George. But I don’t know of anyone else who would help Casey? It’s hard to believe she didn’t have help. How can Casey be so lucky?
Lucky meaning, not a witness in sight? Lucky meaning, she chose not to flee Orlando and actually have the nerve to face this case with all of this circumstancial evidence? Lucky to have a fairly impressive defense team. Let me say this, Casey is as lucky as OJ. I’m hoping it’s not the same outcome but in my opinion, this case is going to be harder to prove than the public thinks.
VIOLA!
And that’s what I had to say on June 17, 2009. Yesterday I read..
“Casey Anthony Gets Her Own ‘E! True Hollywood Story”
Written by Catherine Lawson, posted Oct 14th 2011 7:15AM
Snipped:
Casey Anthony, the Florida mom who was sensationally acquitted
of the 2008 murder of her young daughter Caylee, became a familiar face to TV
viewers during the intense media coverage of the case.Now it’s been reported that Anthony’s become the latest “celebrity”
to get the ‘E!
True Hollywood Story’ treatment, in a special premiering next week.According to the ‘Orlando Sentinel,’ producers got the inside scoop by
interviewing journalists covering the case, Anthony’s ex-boyfriends, a former
high school friend, former defense attorneys and Zenaida Gonzalez, who is suing
Anthony for defamation.Gonzalez says her life was ruined when Anthony linked her to
the disappearance of two year-old Caylee: “It started going down like,
‘You’re a baby killer, you killed that baby.’ They were going to kidnap my
daughters and see how I like [it] and then they started saying that they [were]
going to kill them and they [were] going to send them to me in pieces in a box
to my house and yeah. … I hate that part.”Brandon Snow, Anthony’s former boyfriend who is now in hiding, is quoted as
saying “If you wanted to hang out [or] go party she was always down.”Anthony’s defense attorney, Dorothy Clay Sims, says that media coverage of the
case portrayed her client in a poor light. “You follow someone around,
let’s say 24/7, and then you only play one or two hours of their most difficult
time, that does not define who that individual is. That was an unfair portrayal
of her.”There’s been no word yet if Anthony’s TV nemesis, Nancy Grace,
will feature in the hour-long special. She
covered the case for years in her single-minded pursuit of the
“truth” about Caylee’s death, and her intense, often controversial,
scrutiny produced record ratings for CNN’s Headline News.Grace’s outraged disbelief — “somewhere out there, the devil is dancing
tonight” — at the “not guilty” verdict handed down this summer
sparked headlines around the world.E! True Hollywood Story: Casey Anthony’ premieres Wednesday Oct. 19, 10PM ET on E!
TheJBMission~


I came across this old article..
Thats what I was thinking in 2009…Who knew?
Have a great day everybody!
JB Thanks for this post. I have very often thought that George could very well have lied about seeing Caylee leave with Casey on June 16th. This could be the lie that threw Casey into a whammy and started the “stories” evolving. In my estimation there is one great bucket of facts that have been covered up and twisted in this case. I can not imagine George being nothing but his pretty boy self, who thought he was going to hit the big money machine at any time, therefore he didn’t have to be responsible or attentive to the down to earth dad and a strong support for his family. jmo Conspiracy, I do think it involves LE, conspired to keep themselves respectable, if possible, and regardless of what else could have been uncovered if they had not jumped the gun. Throwing the DP on Casey was one of the most unethical moves I have ever heard of. Possibly to try and make her confess in the beginning but when they put it back on I felt sure they themselves had messed up big time and from then on have to move in the direction to stand by themselves and their conclusion.
Was Brandon Snow mentioned in the trial? I really don’t remember his name at all.
JB, do you think it was Cindy and George. I know throughout the trial NOTHING could e believed.
I don’t understand. Is Casey going to be on there? Is it more just to hate Casey before the Gonzales trial, or is there going to be one. If Gonzales has to go before a Grand Jury first, how they they even think this is worth it.
I’m confused!
Comment,
I agree the DP was a ruse by LE to get KC to confess. I will go to my grave believing that. There was “no smoking gun” as so many expected. Even the most avid believer in KC’s guilt assumed there would be evidence that pointed to KC alone. It didn’t happen.
The excessive amount of chloroform searches invented by LE tells me that they were guilty of trying to set up Casey…Something like what Marc Fuhrmann did in the OJ trial…perhaps framing a guilty man. That glove that was found behind the house was put there by someone maybe Fuhrmann himself. He may have threw the glove over the fence. I recall reading that the leaves and grasses were intack, not a foot print in site.
I think in the Anthony case, the lies and propaganda just grew out of control. The media lost touch with what was fact and what was fiction. Example: the heart sticker on the duct tape. That and the NG phenomenon. Early on, even I watched NG thinking she was the best source but as we all know now, she was just another peddler of lies.
You know lolypop..
I really don’t know why Brandon Snow was mentioned?? He was an old flame of KC’s that she claimed she was pregnant for. Fact or fiction? I don’t know.
I’m not up to date on the Gonzalez trial. Does this have to go to a Grand Jury? It’s a civil case, so maybe not.. And maybe KC won’t be on E-True Hollywood Story either?? I’m hoping she is.
Evening all-
I was wondering why in the article it states Brandon Snow is in hiding? strange..but whats not strange related to all this huh?…lol..JB…I had made a comment a few articles back about being scared to being honest in putting forth what I really think this case stinks a lot of and manufacturing is certainly in there hot and heavy. Hope you all have a wonderful night.
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Misty, Yesss..me too. I was always apologetic because of my belief! Crazy huh? Thankfully you guys came around so I could breathe.
Thanks for this comment. I’m glad you caught that.
JB
Well, the house boy said that bathroom window in his hut behind the air conditioner was opened and it was never ever opened before MF went in there.
Jb: I think if you back before trial, you will find that many of us were beginning to suspect GA involvement.
levi sure does a lot of rumor has its. lol
IM lost NTS…who is Levi?
oops , sorry… levi-page twitter He is a radio blogger in Orlando
Why would Brandon Snow hide? Was his dna tested?
NTS- I caught that in the article and was wondering the same…hiding from who? what?
crime scene tape going up at house where they found soiled diapers. 11 minutes ago
NTS what case are you watching/talking about?
Lisa Irwin
OH NO!!!! I was sooo hoping there would be a positive outcome in that
Hopefully there will be
OH no. NTS, is it on tv or where?
maybe…hopefully…somehow some way..she was just being kept or hidden at the house they are searching…maybe by the grace of God…they will find her alive
alright all…I gotta go…need to turn in early tonight..going to search for some news coverage first though about the baby Lisa case….wish you all a wonderful and peaceful night
Wow, the Gov is bringing in the National Guard to help look for Baby Lisa for 1 day, http://www.kmbc.com/r/29498022/detail.html
Police arrest Handyman, “jersey” http://www.kmbc.com/r/29497976/detail.html
Crime scene tape put up http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/%22jersey,%22-man-sought-for-questioning-in-lisa-irwin-case,-in-police-custody
scooby doo back pack found
Okay, sorry guys, sounds like it was a false alarm. goodnight.
Thanks NTS!
pretty neat, live blog of cont search for Baby Lisa Irwin, from KMBC ch 9
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
from the above mentioned live post/blog,
Police say they are going to bring crime scene investigators in…but they are not excited about the discovery. The diapers had been there for some time.
by Brian Foster – KMBC.com 9:09 PM
Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1auRuNLkE
JB, I agree with everything you said. IF, the prosecutors were always as sure as they say they are, WHY do they lie so much? And I believe MF put the glove there also and then the glove expert sat on the stand stretching it. That was tampering with evidence. If they have all of the evidence they need then just go ahead with a trial. There isn’t even any need to lie. So, when they lie, the prosecutors lose all credibility with me.
If NG is on that E show, do you think that Casey would also be there. And is this a one time show?
hey all!! happy weekend to you all
@JB awesome article! i agree, def and i believe that this is the common denominator that has brought most of us to meet!! i think we along with others that have to remain quiet about it, or risk being harmed, saw this, and glad that it didn’t cause the death penalty charge to land…
i say this one thing, it doesn’t matter who the parents are, the media WILL find a way to tarnish the public’s perception for the life of the mother and father of any missing child… this says it all, talk about a double take on how they creep in their ideals and make it stick to a willing public…
here’s just a few snippets and attached sites promoting a misunderstanding about this so called mysterious man called HER BROTHER!! but hey at least they made folks hate her for life now, even if they have no idea WHY they hate her or if she did anything wrong to her child…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048345/Missing-baby-Lisa-Irwin-Video-mother-man-hours-disappearance.html “Caught on camera: Baby Lisa’s mother and mystery man buying baby wipes and wine just hours before her daughter disappeared”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiveLfdX9dc&feature=channel_video_title “breaking news tonight!! bombshell tonight as we go to air grainy surveillance of mommy with a mystery man!!” oh and she bought a box of wine (of course i am paraphrasing)
and numerous other stories that plague the airwaves with a video of her brother and her at the store shopping for groceries?? really??
now about brandon snow, i think that reporter kind of took those words and ran with it, i doubt he is literally in hiding from like mafia type fear, maybe more media / public hiding type fear, but he was a pretty strong looking dude, i doubt he would hide in a literal sense, i say that is just the media running with their arrangement of words again… but that is of course my opinion on the matter…
this BS gentleman was a friend of KCA who also kind of “dated” him, he won’t however outright admit it, but she had gone to a party at one of their other friend Iassen Donov home, that lake vaj place the anything but clothes party, and is where supposedly KCA went off crying like crazy over having a miscarriage with BS’s child… but of course this was not by KCA’s words, all remains hearsay…
it was also known by LE that these two gentlemen were also hanging out with KCA at a bar during the time frame in question, hence why they wanted to ensure they talked to these guys, so there wasn’t much involvement, but here they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKL4CpIBpsI this is Iassen Donov’s police interview part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4K34gQpZi0 part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nZc5ooM6do&feature=related part 3
oddly enough though, to date there is no videos, interviews or trial testimony given by Brandon Snow, the only time he has spoken publicly that I am able to dig up is the upcoming show listed above in JB’s post even thought you would think there would be as RG said in his interview that he remembers seeing BS’s vehicle at KCA’s house, at least that is what i remember i should look into that before saying it definitively as being fact that he did say it, but i am almost sure he did, let me go check…
hope your all doing sweet
sorry to be so dang long winded lolol
We had a major bust in the Mississippi Delta this week. FBI was even involved. Close to 800 personnel were involved. OH and of those arrested in the drugs were 5 members of LE! this had been in the work by the fed for 2 yrs. Poss more LE could come to light, per the new police chief. Think of all the awful things that go with this type of illegal activities! Makes me shiver with chills…
HI SPIDEY! I recently found out that Spider Girl is your given name, so when I call you Spidey, is said with affection, not making fun. Let me know if I offended you
http://www.scribd.com/doc/66336539/Casey-Anthony-Richard-Grund-9-5-08-Transcript page 28 onward, check that out
RG mentions BS, apparently ppl have said that JG was with KCA in her home area around those dates in question, but RG says that was not his son but after he dug around a bit found out that BS had a similar look and pick up truck of his son JG, and that it was BS NOT JG and that they should question him about any involvement. but as you will see from his interview he speaks of many things and folks, so i don’t think RG was pointing any fingers at BS he was just clearing up the question on if his son was indeed with KCA.
but seriously, there are no transcripts released on BS, just a bit odd since most things have been released already, well lots at least, maybe this was one of those things that was withheld? anywho, check out that transcript to see what i am referring to
heya mimi, well hey, if i let a little thing like someone offending me over my name that would be pretty thinned skinned of me, roflmao, no worries at all, i am a mother, i am a woman, i am a wife, i have grown thick skin you have to in order to be superwoman, oh i mean spidergirl
lolol
hope your doing awesome !!
oh and yes, spidey, spid, girl, hey you etc… are all FINE, so i am good with that mimi
but i draw the line at spiderho, roflmao so spidey is all good dear heart
BAHHHAAHHHA Casey is still the cash cow on OS “Entertainment” blog!!! Only thing that they have going pulling in any hits lol! Hal’s article about her getting a spot over on E!, garnered 844! lol so it was evidently too sluggish so they have a new article, lol its 4 lines, 5 if you count the last line being: Do you agree? Its a about a comparison between Casey Anthony and the Lindbergh kidnapping.
lol, gotta keep Casey on there somehow or another huh?
Oh shoot, here is the WHOLE article lol : Joe Nocera has a provocative column in this morning’s New York Times. His main thrust is comparing today’s economic crisis to the Great Depression.
But one line stopped me: “The country’s fixation with the Lindbergh kidnapping seems strikingly similar to the country’s fixation with Casey Anthony.”
Do you agree?
Most of what comments are made are snide remarks in ref to The JB MISSION! WOO HOO, What they dont realize is they are just sending people here to read lol ~ free advertisement and JB still can maintain her blog free of fools lol (PITTY THA FOOL~ Mr. T lol)
Have a Wonderful day to all…….
Ahhh So peaceful here!
just had to go see what ole Lisa2 said about me this time. Hi Lisa, glad you stopped by. Shoot join in on a real conversation or debate ~ UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE
wink * wink
Good Morning ArkansasMimi,
OMG! I just had to see it for myself. You are exactly right and yes it is peaceful here. I guess it’s nice to sit back and relax and not be angry at the world. Well I suppose it’s easy for us being that we’re on the winning side.
Yep.. Ahhh…Sure feels nice knowing that most of us here had this all figured out in 2009…
Hmm..Here’s a good titile for the next OS article; “The Economy and Casey Anthony”
I can’t stop now…LOL
Mimi..This would be 1st comment.
Wishing You & Everyone a FANTASTICALLY WONDERFUL Day!
HA! JB if you think that’s bad…I had read on JA Facebook page(which ppl have totally hi- jacked by the way) but ppl were posting that their incessant involvement in this case was causing problems in their marriage with their spouses !!! now can we say C R A Z Y!!? they don’t even know this family..but yet they are on the verge of breaking their real life family up!! I am just still amazed at the hatred people harbor in themselves on a daily basis..never seen anything like it! anyway..hope everyone has a wonderful day
…even Hals gals and pals that come here and read each day
Hey, wasn’t there a discussion about what was going on in the town during the Salem Witch Trials? Weren’t they going through some kind of difficult period? I think that would make a great article. The economy and Casey Anthony. There would actually be like…sources and such for something like that. Lindbergh baby, Salem, and even the Amanda Knox connection because of the anti-americanism going on in that culture.
Lisa2 is hilarious! Thanks for sharing that comment. I needed a good laugh. Very clever and funny.
I don’t know if anyone on here is familiar with Robert Pickton but he is a notorious serial killer up in Canada. Known as the pig farmer. Killed 49 women.
There is an inquiry going on right now as to how the Police handled the investigation. The first testimony was a criminologist who said that the Police created the problem. It really was a racist mass killing because I believe ALL of the victims were aboriginal and ALL were victims of child abuse.
There were a lot of rumors that Pickton was the fall guy for someone. He’s not allowed to speak at the inquiry because he refuses to take full responsibility. Several groups are already protesting. It is interesting to me how much secrecy still can go on! There are rumors of police playing a game where they kill hookers. It’s a big mess, regardless. And still secretive.
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Hi Sam,
I heard about this the other day! It’s really an eye-opener isn’t it? It’s mind boggling to think that things like this happen..And to think these are the only ones we know about.. Hmm..
Great comment,
JB
Sam, do you ever watch the show Criminal Minds? Love it, that serial killer case sounds like one that would be on that show WOW!
Be back later, just eating a quick lunch, been planting Iris’ , my friend dug up a 20 yr old bed and gave me more than I reallized lol
It just seems the news is quiet today about the babylisa case. I hate it when the world takes the weekend off. I understand the National Guard are there, but there does not seem to be much news coverage. prolly just me
hello folks!! happy sunday evening to you all
Top of the evening to ya, Spider Girl
Well got those bulbs planted, hope they live lol. Hoping everyone has had a wonderful weekend. The weatherman says we fixing to get some fall weather, today last 90′s … bring it on, haha BRING IT ON! But as they say here, if you dont like it hang around. Hoping where ever you live you are able to enjoy lovely weather…. Happy NEXT WEEK!
Speaking of next week, has anyone heard anything on the release of the jurors names? I think they are suppose to be released I think the 25th? So that would be about a wk and a half. Hate that its gonna be so close to Halloween… extra freaky. Sad that they are having to take such awful things when all they did was try to do their duty. Sadly, and i blame the media for this, for the most part anyway, they because of how they chose to cover the story, sooo many peoples lives were affected/changed forever. We never saw anything on our local news about Casey until after the verdict. Now whenever there is something going on (ex depo in zg) a lil snippet is there. Ratings is what its all about. Sad.
wow have you seen that linda paris blog? wow
http://crimegalsblog.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/the-casey-anthony-jurors-an-american-disgrace/
I feel sorry for those jurors.
NTS, I do too, Oh and the Conrad Murray trial is suppose to wind up I think on the 28th. Hmm dont you know the jurors in that trial will be watching how the media handles Casey’s jurors? Dont you know it will be a big week for ratings lol. I read a while back that the def in the trial for that Millionaire trial in OC, filed a motion to interview the 6 jurors for poss misconduct. ( could be a normal thing I dont know) just wondering if anyone heard any update.
I think the haters are sending a message to all jurors. Everyone is guilty. or else.
Whoever that linda paris person is a very scarey person. I would be afraid to log on and comment in fear of being hunted down and strung up. What a threat to society….
NTS you have that right! did you see the post I posted on last thread, from Linda Parisite that SHE posted on a hater page on FB? I will re post case you didnt. Read that and tell me that people havent made threats on her?
Linda Paris posted toI Hate Casey Anthony
WHEN IS THIS BITCH GOING TO DIE? Every minute she lives I feel like EVIL has taken over the earth. Why is she breathing air? The day this bitch is found in a ditch with her head wrapped in duct tape is the day I won’t be angry anymore. My hatred for her GROWS…the only good Casey is a dead Casey…she better stay OFF TV and OFF of my radar. It’s almost worth letting OJ out of prison on the condition that he slit her throat. Hate…is not a strong enough word for how I feel. Die bitch…just die. UGH!
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AND they dont know her, she has absolutely nothing to do with their lives… stupid. that only way I can explain. IMOO
NTS…What’s really scary about Parisite is she copied my blog. She’s using the exact same blog style that I use. Mine looks different now because I changed the background color but I’m sure you and Zuben remember that.. it used to have a blue background.
I didn’t take the time to read the article..Maybe later tonight?? Or maybe not.
I’m feeling so bad right now. In mid-June when we were all posting on another thread, I missed two very good comments. I wish I had found them earlier but we were so busy then… Just so many new people, I didn’t know ..
So here they are:
• http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/if-the-tape-dont-stick-you-must%e2%80%a6retract/
• http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/if-the-tape-dont-stick-you-must%e2%80%a6retract/
Here’s what Marie had to say..
WOW NTS – you found one of the truly sicko’s! It is bad enough someone would write an article as venemous as that but LOL she didn’t even have her facts straight – AND SHE WATCHED THE ENTIRE TRIAL!
Does she even know that in FL jurors are allowed to ask questions of the judge during the trial? They ARE ALLOWED to say to someone they elect to speak “May we see a photo of the heart shaped sticker?”. Dumb woman! That’s not DISCUSSING, that’s asking a QUESTION! Geeze! How embarrising that she bashes the juror’s for her ignorance!
Oh yeah! and the ENTIRE POLICE FORCE SAID THE CAR SMELLED OF DEATH. Did she really watch the same trial? I remember at least one police officer walking by the car in the garage that testified HE didn’t smell anything. Also remember friends of Casey’s WHO RODE IN THE CAR shortly before it was abandoned stating THEY didn’t smell anything. But according to that wacko’s article EVERYBODY that came near that car testified it smelled! EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY PERSON! Hope she feels her dumbness now!
Too bad she is so sliver-minded that she will never write “I’m sorry for my dumb mistakes and bashing you for them”.
LOL, I also saw that the article was written 4 days ago and there are only 3 comments. Thank heavens there aren’t too many people as wacko as that woman!
Arkie,
This sure makes me wonder if it’s this kind of hatred that BSG was so against? hmmm…Why else would she call her a troll, right?
UPDATE: Sean Payton has a torn left medial collateral ligament and a tibial plateau fracture and will have surgery Monday. Aww… Coach Sean Payton may have lost his swagger today… I’m wishing him a swift recovery!
TAMPA – New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton had to do his job sitting on the bench with his left leg in a brace after being injured on the team’s first drive Sunday against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
This is the person that Zuben posted that had complained to google ( about the awful post made about the lady Brenda Stackhouse Gard). the website worldinfohub, you know the site where Linda Paris~ite posts. well good for this friend of BSG. Her name is Pesky…
Pesky Vrmt
Author “Linda Paris” – Your buddy was slapped with a court date for online stalking/harassment. WE TRIED TO TELL YOU. You refused to listen. When he begins stalking/harassing you, and he will, do NOT come crying to US. You just keep writing your little things for that BOGUS website, and pray that NO ONE else gets hurt.
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I’m glad Pesky followed through and I hope Miller goes down in flames. I wonder if it’s REAL to the little secret group yet. Do you NOW see what you’re doing is wrong? I shall keep up with this BSG case to watch where it goes.
Good evening all!!!
Current Lisa Irwin Updates:
Missouri National Guard members join search for missing infant Lisa Irwin
About 15 searchers slowly covered a roadside area thick with scrub trees, tall weeds and vines. They brushed weeds back and forth, prodded the ground with sticks and frequently dropped to a knee to get a closer look. Progress was measured in yards per hour.
Officials would not say what they learned from the search, which lasted from 8 a.m. to 3:45 p.m.
The 11-month-old girl has been the object of intense investigation and search since she disappeared Oct. 4.
The areas, which cover about a square mile, had been searched previously, said Bridget Patton, a spokeswoman for the FBI.
She said Sunday’s efforts involved more personnel and took in a slightly expanded area. They mostly provided “fresh eyes” in the search for clues, Patton said.
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/16/3211705/missouri-national-guard-members.html#ixzz1b0rata4a
Hi, HGM, reading up on her half sisters case pretty interesting.. Praying for Baby Lisa
peteralexander peter alexander
just intervu’ed #babylisa parents. Mom: I was drunk nite of disappearance. @todayshow yfrog.com/gz18enqj
PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
My interview w #BabyLisa’s parents to air tomorrow @TodayShow. And, why she won’t let her kids be re-intervu’ed by KCPD.
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Been reading over at WS about what’s been going on in Lisa’s case the last few days sinse I’ve been offline and what suddenly comes to mind now, days after learning that DB had bought the box o wine and now reportedly was drunk the night Lisa disappeared is…
If DB and her brother were at the store buying wine & baby food at 5:30 sans Lisa & JI was at work by 5 pm…. Who was watching Lisa during the store trip? Was she at home being watched by a sibling (One who legally would be much to young to care for a 10 mos old )?
Did the neighbor who drank the wine with DB watch her? Was this when something happened to Lisa?
Missing Baby Lisa Irwin Shows similarities of Haliegh Cummings Case
By Janet Grdinich– October 12, 2011
http://newstaar.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-shows-similarities-of-haliegh-cummings-case/354409/
(Bare bones of the details of both cases)
Thanks HGM,
I’d forgotten to check at WS…That’s always a good place to get an update. Interesting…I was thinking the same thing…Who was watching Lisa while Momma was buying wine?
Hello JB, I know that there was talk about a “neighbor” being in the home that night. There was a DNA test requested of a neighbor in order to rule out their DNA from unknown persons. It may be that this neighbor babysat for the box o wine trip.
Honestly, I have to say that WS is slipping. It must be that all of the “juicy” stuff is locked “downstairs”. I gotta check a few old pals twitter feeds . LOL
Following up on the neighbor info…
(Found at SM)
“she did say they were watching a movie with Marias kid she said she was talking outside with her neighbor Maria.”
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kctv/subpoena.pdf (Grand Jury Supoenas for 10/18/11)
Asking because I dont know… Isnt it kinda quick to go to a grand jury?
A previous neighbor of Deb’s spills in Seamus’ comments
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=5447299590510509259
The previous neighbor and another friend who was also known to Deb have contacted the FBI and local LE to give them some info on DB as it pertains to prior criminal history and information that Ft Brag CID have on her.
On JVM tonight I heard Tim Miller mention this case sounded so much like HaLeigh Cummings which I have stated to, one child in bed with the mom, lights on and door open and “that’s all I know”….also, IIRC she couldn’t find her cell phone or there was some confusion about either her or Ron’s cell phone too. BUT, what is a huge red flag is the amount of time that elapsed before they called 911.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12175.700
I had GBS in 2004. I did great for 2 years until I seperated from my husband. I then began drinking wine on a regular basis (not daily but 3-4 times per week). I got a DWAI last Sept and now a DWI last weekend 9/5/09. I am in alot of trouble! I am a Rn and director for a home care agency for 2 counties in NY. I could lose my job. I knew I was tipsy, but I got an aggravated DWI which my attorney tells me I must have had a BAC over .18. I am in a real mess. I also have gaine 50# back, most likely due to the alcohol!!!
Posted by: Debbie Bradley | September 10, 2009 at 09:32 AM
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.themorbidme.com/2006/07/after_gastric_b.html&sa=U&ei=5vWbTvGJHoqKsgKi8pHTBA&ved=0CCAQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNGLeteT_Ysd4AYFYlla3U1kVWOjVA
(Possibly not the DB who is mother to Baby Lisa but with the wine reference I thought it too interesting to not post.
People will believe anything if they either fear it to be true or want it to be true.
There is not much stated about the father of baby Lisa. Odd that he never works at night but this night he did. If he is totally cleared I wish the LE would make it known that he WAS on the job the whole time and could not possibly have anything to do with it. What burglar goes into a home and turns on all the lights to rob or kidnap??????? What REALLY happened to Haleigh? I always thought the father was totally involved. What has happened to the Kyron (?) case? Have they also just closed it? Too many children disappearing!!! What is the possibility that the father of Lisa had someone else take her. It just sounds as though someone else also knew he was not going to be home that evening. Who called him into work? Odd, very odd! Seems more than a coincidence. imo
Interesting comments HGM..Hmm…I’m not sure what’s going on.
Like you Comment, I’m wondering if the Dad is totally cleared.
What I see happening here…Young mom who likes to party, husband gets a late call for a job..Hmm..Young mom says cool, good time for a party. She puts the baby to bed early. She invites a couple of friends over to the house, when they arrive, she and her brother take off for the store for a box of wine, etc. and some baby supplies. She either leaves the baby alone with some other kids or maybe an adult,..(don’t know all of the details).
When she and her brother get back they get right to drinking, no one checks on the baby. Maybe husband came back early and saw her either not home, drinking with her friends, or drunk on the couch and decides he’s going to hide the baby to teach her a lesson or worst.
Unlike most people, I never suspect parents, especially a mother of killing her child. I’ve heard that LE always suspects the parents but there’s that maternal instinct that refuses to go away no matter what. Unless there was hard core drugs involved, history of abuse or mental illness, I find it hard to believe because there are people who come into your home and kill your children.
Ask Julie Rea Harper.
http://ahabit.com/redcarpet/
On October 13, 1997, Julie Rea-Harper’s 10-year old son, Joel, was brutally stabbed to death in the middle of the night by an intruder. She was actually sentenced to 65 years in prison for her son’s death but later acquitted. Author Diane Fanning, who was writing a book on serial killer Tommy Lynn Sells who was already on Death Row in Texas, realized the time of the Harper murder he was in the Illinois area. Sells told Fanning, he remembered killing the little boy and running away from the mother.
This is the crime that put him on death row.
On December 31, 1999, in the Guajia Bay subdivision, west of Del Rio, Texas, Sells fatally stabbed 13-year-old Kaylene ‘Katy’ Harris 16 times and slit the throat of 10-year-old Krystal Surles. Surles survived and received help from her neighbors. Ultimately, Sells was apprehended using a sketch from the victim’s description.[citation needed]
http://www.uis.edu/innocenceproject/cases/exonorees/jrharper/index.html
Trying to stay open minded, I can understand how LE would with all their training, would first suspect the last person known to have seen the missing person or family first. I would think they would work from say an invisible circle outward in trying to find that person. I very much understand there are bad cops, but I want to believe that the most part they are good. (you know the ole saying 1 bad apple…) I think that because of the high media coverage and availability from technology the happenings of like Susan Smith, where we get wrapped up in emotion then realize we’ve been dupped, so next time, we are like NOPE, aint gonna go there and blame the parents from get go… even hear people say well S Smith had real tears blah blah… then say the next on OH they didnt act like I think they should act. (i am saying from a citizen standpoint). No 2 people act the same in any situation. Sure maybe a high precentage, but IMO you dont group everyone in that pot. Use as a starting point but not as a stopping point. Why did you act this way vs another… maybe there is a reason – medical? I just get irratated with judgemental thoughts, esp when someone forms an opinion and cant be openminded at least a little. lol
Sadly, Baby Lisa isnt the only child that just went missing. Sadly there are so many every day. But if you were to go by media coverage you wouldnt think that, But then if they did show coverage constantly of each, we would tune it out after awhile. Double edge sword. IMO. Remember when Elizabeth Smart was stolen from her home? People said the same thing then about those parents as they did about the others missing. Thankfully the outcome was so much better. Myself, because of that, I just hate to rush to judge someone. Or that lil Sabrina baby….
In Casey/Caylee, because of the Sunshine Law stuff, it shows me that there seems to be more to the story. IMOO. But to me its because stuff was out there to read. But ALL that wasnt brought into the trial, so IMO, people who talk about the jurors, they DONT know or didnt everything because they could only go by what was PRESENTED IN THE TRIAL! AND IMOO, what was presented in trial, did not prove without a reasonable doubt. Thats what irratates the bageezies outta me!
Arkansasmimi, you express a lot of very good thought and I truly understand where you are coming from. There is no doubt in my mind that had the prosecution presented in trial, proof without a reasonable doubt, Casey would have received the DP. What I can’t understand is how many people are just “mad” because it didn’t happen, regardless of their not having that proof. It seems to me that there are a great majority who believe such harsh judgement should be handed down because they “want” to believe guilt and in a way feel they are a participant in a punishment therefore, have have done a kind of civic duty which gives them a personal feeling of worth that
they have contributed to bringing “justice”. I hesitate to get into a depth of conversation about personal human image but we are all susceptible to the need to be right and in the Anthony trial
we have learned a great deal about that need. I for one actually did not “want” Casey to have
murdered her child. It could have been an error on my part but my confession is that I was very pleased the prosecution could not present the case without a reasonable doubt.
Hi Arkansas Mimi & Comment,
I hope LE doesn’t get tunnel vision in this case either. From what I saw on TV, the house is in a quaint subdivision which means any neighbor would know when you were home and when you were not.
For all we know, Debbie left the baby alone before. People notice when you walk out of the door without your baby.
I hate to say it but there is a market for babies, not to be racial but especially white babies. This baby has blond hair and blue eyes, she’s under a year old so who knows maybe someone did kidnap little Lisa. Adoption is not always that easy. It’s expensive & not all meet the criteria. Just a thought..trying to keep open minded.
Comment, I was happy with the verdict too. Not because I’m a Casey lover because honestly, I don’t know her well but from what I saw, she seemed a little too shallow to me just like her parents, so no, Casey probably isn’t my type of people. lol I just didn’t want to see her found guilty on the circumstantial evidence the State had to make their case. If I were on the jury, I couldn’t have voted guilty either without a fingerprint or DNA on the duct tape. Its 2011, I’m spoiled, I need forensics! lol jmo
Well, I’m going to check my meatloaf in the oven. It’s starting to smell good now..
bbl
hey all just stopping by to say hello
uh oh, watching Nightline, and the Mother is on there talking. She is saying she sat on the back porch with her female friend. Could that be why the front door unlocked? and the lights on? She said that during interagation that the investigators threatened and showed her burnt clothes, cell phone pings from her cell phones. Praying for the baby to be found safe… so sad
Baby Lisa case grows murkier as mom goes on TV, family hires lawyer
The mother of a missing Northland baby added several new twists to an already perplexing case Monday as the search for her daughter entered its third week.
Deborah Bradley revealed in appearances on network TV morning shows that she last saw Lisa Irwin nearly four hours before the time she initially gave police. And Bradley said she had been drinking wine — “enough to be drunk” — on Oct. 3, the night the child, now 11 months old, disappeared from her crib
The revelations came on a busy day in the case that included the announcement that a high-profile New York lawyer would represent Lisa’s parents. Meanwhile, investigators drained a Northland creek and had dogs sniffing around the family’s home in their continuing search for clues.
But authorities reported no progress in the case.
The lawyer, former New York City prosecutor Joe Tacopina, said in a news conference Monday afternoon that Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, Lisa’s father, were innocent and would cooperate with authorities. Tacopina declined to say who was paying for his services.
He said Lisa’s parents had consented to have their house searched again and would cooperate with investigators.
“They have nothing to hide, and they have said that from day one,” Tacopina said.
He said his clients do not know what happened the night Lisa disappeared.
“These are two parents who are grieving every day over the loss of their daughter,” he said. “Hopefully she will come back to them.”
Lisa’s parents stood behind Tacopina during the news conference. Neither of them spoke, and the lawyer said he had advised them to stop talking to the media.
His recommendation came hours after Bradley spoke out again on network TV.
In an interview with Peter Alexander on NBC’s “Today” show, Bradley admitted she was drinking the night Lisa disappeared.
When asked whether there was any way she could have done something to hurt her daughter, Bradley said, “No. No. No. And if I thought there was a chance, I’d say it. … I don’t think that alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that.”
Tacopina said at the news conference that Bradley’s admission of being intoxicated that night was a sign of her credibility and willingness to be truthful even at the expense of people’s perceptions of her.
The “Today” show also reported that Bradley now says she last saw Lisa when she put the baby to bed around 6:40 p.m. Oct. 3. Police have said that Bradley told them she put Lisa to bed at 10:30 p.m.
When Tacopina was asked in the news conference about the time difference, he said Bradley may not have been sure of the time she put Lisa to bed, but that was immaterial to the child’s disappearance.
“There are going to be discrepancies, but there were absolutely no discrepancies that have caused police to take any action,” Tacopina said.
Retired FBI agent Jeff Lanza, who has investigated child disappearances, said that if Bradley is now changing the time she last saw her daughter, it sends up “gigantic red flags” for law enforcement.
Lanza said that in any criminal investigation, having an accurate timeline of events is “extremely important.” Changing that timeline would require investigators to go back and look at things differently, he said.
And any time key witnesses change their stories, it creates doubts among investigators about those witnesses’ credibility, he said.
“It indicates on some level that there are problems with the person providing the story,” Lanza said.
Lanza said that if the discrepancy in timing is because Bradley wasn’t thinking clearly because she was drinking, she should have told investigators about her condition that night, instead of changing her story two weeks into the investigation.
Bradley, who was interviewed on “Today” alongside Jeremy Irwin, said she thought she could be arrested because she was the last person to be with Lisa before the baby disappeared.
“The main fear with that is if they arrest me, people are going to stop looking for her,” she said. “And then I’ll never see her again. And I’ll never know what happened.”
Bradley also spoke briefly about the polygraph test that police told her she failed. “They said that I failed when they asked me where she was,” Bradley said.
In an appearance on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” Bradley said that while police questioned her, investigators showed her burned clothes and a “Doppler thing with pings” from her cellphone.
“I hope the burned clothes weren’t real,” she said.
Megyn Kelly of Fox News Channel interviewed Lisa’s parents over the weekend for a show that was broadcast Monday. In the interview, Bradley acknowledged she was drunk the night her daughter disappeared.
“I don’t see the problem in me having my grown-up time,” Bradley told Kelly. “I take good care of my kids. I keep my house clean. I do their laundry. I kiss their boo-boos. I fix them food. I’m involved in their school stuff.
“I mean, to me, there’s nothing wrong with me doing what I want to do after dark. As soon as I’m done drinking, I go right to bed.”
Bradley said she drank “maybe a couple of times a week,” and only after her children were in bed. She said she takes anxiety medication but does not use illegal drugs.
Tacopina said the parents were “cooperating in every sense of the word,” but police later disputed that statement.
“The parents’ level of cooperation hasn’t been what it needs to be in order for us to find this girl,” said Kansas City Police Capt. Steve Young. “Should they change their minds, the door is always open.”
Police last interviewed Lisa’s parents Oct. 6. That same day — two days after Lisa vanished — Bradley refused additional police questioning or contact unless it went through a lawyer, sources close to the investigation told The Kansas City Star. Jeremy Irwin has insisted he be interviewed with Bradley present, the sources said.
In the days since, police have had trouble reaching the parents to discuss tips in the case or talk to them informally. In one instance, the parents said they could not talk to police because they already had scheduled a TV interview with a national outlet, sources said.
Although police have had brief contacts with Lisa’s parents in recent days, detectives have been unable to ask Bradley about inconsistencies in what she has told the national media outlets, including her changing timeline for the night her baby disappeared.
Young said police have tracked 550 leads to completion and they have “all led to nothing.”
On Monday, a team of police and FBI investigators and dogs searched an area along a creek near Chouteau Elementary School at 37th Street and North Jackson Avenue, Young said. Authorities used earth-moving equipment to divert the creek.
Tacopina said he and Lisa’s parents were optimistic that the child is alive.
“It is not about innuendo. It is not about rumor or mistaken facts. And it is not about rank speculation,” he said. “It is about finding where Lisa is and securing her safe return.”
Tacopina, a former prosecutor in Brooklyn, has been involved in several high-profile cases in recent years, including the 2005 disappearance of American high school student Natalee Holloway in Aruba, the murder of Yale University student Annie Le and the torture of a Haitian immigrant by officers in a New York police precinct.
Tacopina also represented an associate of pop singer Michael Jackson when that associate faced criminal charges, and he has represented New York-area police officers in a number of criminal cases.
Like Bill Stanton, the New York private investigator who has become part of the Irwin case, Tacopina has been interviewed frequently on network news and legal shows.
Stanton said in Monday’s news conference that he would be leaving Kansas City but would stay in contact with Lisa’s family. Stanton said he had accomplished what he set out to do, but he provided no details.
Lanza said Monday’s twists were just the latest in what has been a series of unusual developments in the case.
Some of those developments include the family not speaking to the local news media, police announcing publicly that the parents were no longer cooperating with them, Bradley announcing on national TV that she failed a polygraph test and the arrival of a private investigator who said he had been hired by an “anonymous benefactor.”
“Lots of bizarre things have happened in this case,” Lanza said.
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/17/3213743/baby-lisa-case-grows-murkier-as.html#ixzz1b6X1PBHS
Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: Do Parents’ Stories Match?
Dan Abrams and Brad Garrett discuss the case of the missing baby from Missouri.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-parents-stories-match-14752253
LOL, well Lisa2, for someone who has no time for me (us) you sure do like to come here and read so that you have SOMETHING to comment about! lol Cant go find something on your own… poor thing. LOL, you seem to be the one who is obsessed with US. If you would think about it ditzy, I only comment on YOU when you come here, read and make slanderous stmnts about us personally.
OH, and whats funny and the joke is on you sister, WE email now lol you just dont know what we’re talking about lol! You know, YOU”VE GOT MAIL lol so you dont know WHO cares about anything lol …
Oh, and as far as the “kids on my street” lol how do you know if there’s even any on my street lol. Silly lil girl, does your Mommy know your up so late?
OH and you just dont get it honey, IMO these 2 cases have zip to do with one another. LoL thats why you get so frustrated, you try to make apples and oranges into a pineapple lol
http://www.ultimatewoodlands.com/stories/276385-crime-woodlands-mother-kills-7-year-old-son-then-herself
This is a strange one. Haven’t heard anymore about it either. Why would they assume murder-suicide right away?
It’s also strange for a Mom to kill her child and in the living room.
A few years back the Mom and Dad were at a ball game their girls were in. The Dad sent the Mom home to get a mitt or bat and when she walked in the door she was mudered. Her husband had hired his brother to kill her.
It sounds like something more like that murder than a mother killing her 7 year old son with a gun.
Why did they come to that conclusion so fast?
Hi Lolypop!
Alan of the OS
said this:
njff. Thx for that. Most of the jbmission people make me think that they are at risk of committing crimes. Why else would they sing Baez’s praises? They say things like, “If I was in that position I would want a lawyer like Baez.” Sure! If you’re guilty why wouldn’t you? Most of the jb’s seem to have an acute distrust of authority. Otherwise, why all of the suspicion that Jeff Ashton and LE had nothing better to do than frame a young woman they don’t even know?
Maybe someday we’ll discover what their real stake in this story is. I suspect it’s nothing more than paid trolls or the maginalized in society attempting to manipulate public opinion. But rational people aren’t going away and I’ve yet to hear of any mind they’ve changed!
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LMBO!! But….Who’s paying ALAN to write this??? Huh, is it a little group from FB maybe….Some SILLY LITTLE “NOBODYS” who have nothing better to do with their boring, mundane lives than to spread rumors about people they don’t know. People who spend hours a day going from blog to blog TROLLING. LOL It’s really is not a laughing matter. Not only to they harass us here on WP, they go to sites like DiscoveryID where good people never dreaming that by using their Facebook account to comment are leaving themselves wide open for GRIFTERS to post pictures on the web of their children & grandchildren ONLY because they have a difference of opinion. This ISN’T just me playing payback, this IS the TRUTH!
This is GOOD information coming from an inside source. I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it for myself.
Oh oh ALAN, your boxers are showing…LOL I know who you are… (wink)
One from THE ROLL has brought many Wonderful gifts to the JBMish. Thank you FRIEND.
Hey it rhymes!! Gifts to theMish!! YeeeHaaa!!
Mail call! It’s getting good now! I think we should all have a hot fudge sundae right now!!
You know to celebrate! Cheers!!
Hi Mimi : )
Thanks!
I come by JB’s then I run off shopping.
It is so easy to do on here. Then I take a break from shopping
and visit here again. lol
It’s my favorite place for a break.
I hope you’re doing OK!
aww take a break here myself quite often lol. hugs my friend..
WOO HOO WOW JB, your so right CHEErS Loving my Hot Fudge Sundae, lol
From Crazy Girl AKA CG -OS lol
Arkininipoop: so, I hear that, over at your mission, you’re questioning why it took so long for the Irwin’s to call 911…..yet, you, nor any of the other mites ever questioned why Casey Anthony NEVER even called 911 at all!
Reply Posted by: cg | Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 12:51 AM
Well, That right there shows that you shouldnt believe what other haters tell you, lol I havent made ANY COMMENT ON THE 911 call on Lisa or Caylee lol. Tist Tist so honey girl dont believe everything you read on OS, from what I have seen, not too much of it are facts.. And this is a firm example.. But I see all you want is a comment… so here it is… lol
BAHAHAAHAHAH Way to go NTS!!!! hmmmmm
Casey Anthony Judge Stan Strickland to resign
Posted: 6:16 p.m. Monday, Oct. 17, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. —
Only WFTV has found out that the judge who first oversaw Casey Anthony’s murder trial is leaving the bench altogether.
Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is also the same judge who sentenced Casey to jail time and probation for her check fraud charges.
Why is Strickland stepping down? In a word, he said he’s “weary.”
Strickland is leaving the bench a year early after serving 16 years. He sent his resignation letter to the governor effective Dec. 31.
The letter didn’t state why Strickland was stepping down. But his counselor, attorney Bill Sheaffer, who is our legal analyst, said the judge has had enough.
“He’s had a long, distinguished service and he’s just really weary now,” Sheaffer said. “His wife has a new business so he’s focusing on the family and the family business.”
There are also indications that accusations against Strickland made in court by Casey Anthony’s defense team could be resurfacing.
Strickland recused himself from Casey Anthony’s murder and check fraud cases after her lawyers accused him of befriending a blogger, and of disparaging the jury that acquitted her of murdering her daughter Caylee on Nancy Grace’s show.
“You learn to live with surprises. I’ve just never seen one like this and the magnitude of it surprises me. I guess I’m just shocked. We opened up a big can of justice, didn’t we?” Strickland said on Grace’s show.
After making that comment, he corrected his sentencing order for Casey’s check fraud convictions and forced her to serve one year probation even though she was freed after her murder acquittal.
Now, there’s talk that his appearance on Grace’s show has led to a Judicial Qualifications Committee complaint against the judge.
“We are certainly prepared that should they want to press that point, we are going to defend his right to make the comments he’s made vigorously,” Sheaffer said.
We checked with the Judicial Qualifications Committee and so far, there’s no record of a complaint.
But a complaint would not become public unless the Judicial Qualifications Committee finds probable cause to believe Strickland broke the rules.
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/casey-anthony-judge-stan-strickland-resign/nFH6F/
I find that frightening that nobody gets the real reason Strickland is resigning. I mean I think I know the real reason but the public should have more info. It is tax dollars that pay judges salaries, right?
As for the comment posted by Alan from OS, this part made me laugh so HARD:
“I suspect it’s nothing more than paid trolls or the maginalized in society attempting to manipulate public opinion.”
Are there actually paid trolls? I wish the marginalized would manipulate! In fact, that should be my new mantra. I’m marginalized and I’m going to manipulate public opinion. That’s like saying a baby could run a marathon!
I hope you keep sharing those gems. They do make me feel smart – and quite proud of my smarts. As a marginalized person, it also makes me laugh. I need laughs.
LOL You guys are Da Bomb!!!
maybe it is projection… and it is THEM getting paid to talk smack about and derail this blog!!! good lord i never meet a blog that had so much negative to say about everyone over here, i mean that in itself is kind of weird no? if you hate what this blog is saying and what folks that are friends here say to one another, why are you all so interested in what is being said here??
oh because you worried we are all a bunch of criminals? is that why you watch??
sorry, but if your watching to see me do anything criminal, your gonna have to wait for my next life, cuz in this life, i am just a simple ole mom, wife and live life without doing any criminal behavior, call me crazy, but i like never having been to jail or having been arrested
but u go on and think what u like, lord knows u will anyway, regardless if it is the truth or not! but hey at least you can all laugh about my name, that is something to look forward to right??
but about the being paid thing, they have NO IDEA how much I wish that folks up in this blog were getting paid to share their thoughts and ideas, now that would be SWEET!! but i guess for now i will just have myself a chuckle at their even suggesting it, lolol
from one human to another, might i suggest that you take hold of your real life again, let go of this anger you have built up and take care of your own family and children, instead of wasting all of your time trying to finger point to folks who have never done a thing wrong to you or anyone for that matter, let it go for the sake of your own real life!! before it is too late, all your time has passed by you while you didn’t realize it, and then u sit there wondering wtf i wasted all my time on that nonsense?? or even end up sitting in jail due to taking your anger and stalking a bit too far… it could happen
just a thought to consider…
The reason I find this fascinating about blogs, usually when people make comments like getting paid, the only reason they would think and make such accusations is that maybe THEY are doing something like that themselves. Maybe the judge stepping down early is because he more than befriended a blogger.
Those people make comments like that on You Tube.
Personally I don’t know anyone or have ever heard of any pay for blogs except those that run out of something substantial to discuss about a case, so they pull something so rediculous out of the air.
The judge talking about the trial like he did on the graceless show was very unethical and could be a reason to leave early or maybe he’s been fired.
Or would he have to be impeached?
After he had to recuse himself, he KNEW he did something to jeopardize the jury and after berating the jurors like he did, he should never be able to judge again or have anything to do withinn the law.
I hope that he is is reprimanded or whatever for what he did. Those 2 things alone were bad for him and for Casey getting a fair trial. IMO, He acted very stupid. HMMM. Could/would this have any bearings on Casey’s appeal? Dont know the legal aspect, but since he was judge in first place.
Just as I was writing the prev post I got a text alert.
Baez Bar complaints explained
Discovery violations and Casey’s probation prompted complaints
By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel
3:00 p.m. EDT, October 18, 2011
One complaint stems from Baez’s failure to share discovery information with the prosecution last winter as the Anthony case was heading to trial, according to Francine Walker with the Florida Bar.
That was not a surprise because Baez was sanctioned in January by Chief Judge Belvin Perry and made to pay a fine for his “willful violation” of a court order.
The other complaint, which was less apparent before today, involves Baez’s failure to disclose to the court that Casey Anthony was being allowed to serve probation for her check-fraud case while in jail awaiting trial for murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-jose-baez-bar-complaints-20111018,0,501302.story
Just as I said that what Judge Strickland did IMO was inappropriate he should be reprimanded. IMO, if Jose did the same, he too should be. They are both held in a position where need to be held accountable. I dont pick and choose on those thoughts. No matter who it is or popular opinion. IF HE KNEW what was going on and it wasnt right, he is in a posititon he should have acted accordinly. There is alot of issues of finger pointing in this case and they are not any of them kids on the playground. IMOO I have a feeling that JS knew what was going on with the probation in jail thing, and never in his wildest dreams thought she would be aquitted so it was a mute matter. As I have said many times, I dont know the whole history of keeping up for 3 yrs of this case. It was very inappropriate what JS did, and he knew it or else he would not have agreed to recuse himself. I would think him being a judge for the length of time he has that he would know better than to go on N DisGrace like he did. And the way that he acted IMO on the whole probation thing after Casey was released, makes me feel he knew she was serving all along. Also him being a judge for so long, I feel sure that they know that it happens (according to the DOC). But that still doesnt relieve Jose of doing what he is suppose to do. IMO. I am sure he knows more about the situation than we do. I wish him my best.
But as with any profession, be it lawyers or doctors or whatever, I dont understand if you put so much of your time and money into school why not follow the rules. In a heart beat of 1 bad action can wash it all away. Actually, this is true of anything you do, but you get what I am talking about.
I will let the powers that be do their jobs and with with all my mite the best outcome for both of these attnys/judge.
Also, IMOO, it seems to me that the PT wasnt without fault either.
IMO, had the jury NOT paid attention and come to the correct verdict with the evidence presented on the charges Casey was charged with, the probation issue, or what Jose did or didnt reveal would never have came to light. Maybe that was a minor thing then, when you have DP on table, you still have to do what your suppose to do. And that goes for everyone. Cant have it both ways.
Sadly so much that has happened in this case IMHO, draws from the emotion of hate for Casey and wanting revenge anyway can get it. That is NOT the way this should be handled. IMO
I still keep wondering when the following people will get reprimanded: ashton, belvin, melich and whoever said they could just say the photos of the duct tape with scale could be ‘lost’.
Oh yah! And George Anthony.
LOL sorry to bring over a post from another blog, but couldnt help meself lol. My impression of what this blogger is saying is that it was the Dt and the blog owner who are at fault for what Judge Strickland did, not the Judge?! LOL, from what I can tell, it was the Judge who did what he did lol. OH and the blogger (one I am posting here) asks was the dt grateful, lol, the DT did what a DT is suppose to do, IMHO lol thats too funny. LOL was good for a chuckle.
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POST FROM OS— lol the Other Side lol!
Stan Strickland, to me was the most honorable of all the characters in this sordid case. His initial comment that “the truth and Miss Anthony are strangers”.. the most honest and truthful assessments of this child killer ever spoken. While he could have found her guilty on way more of the theft charges, he chose to give the witch a break. Was the defense grateful for that? He ll no, they wanted more
and when they didn’t get it, decided to use a casual remark made to a publicity seeking blogger, who then gave them grist for the ridiculous charges they came up with. The defense team, who used the blogs on a daily basis, nailed Strickland to the cross for telling the blog owner that he thought he was fair. Wow, there’s a law breaker for you!! Sadly, because of this lonely mans (the blogger) need for adulation, he created a fake friendship with His Honor, to include personal phone calls and lunches that never happened. To say Strickland was biased against the swampmom, is simply more of the shameless stunts pulled by the DT. I hope he makes the rounds of ALL the shows and lets the world know what a POS Ms. Anthony is. And her fat little friend too. MOOOOOOOO
Reply Posted by: gullivers travels | Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Hello Everyone,
What a day!! I’m loving it! As for that post from the OS.. yes, the “Other Side” ..Interesting Arkie.
Didn’t JS recently admit that it was TRUE that he called Marinade Dave when he was ill?? I remember ALL of Dave’s minions bragging and saying, “you see it was true, Judge Strickland did call Dave” Judge Strickland publicly admitted he called Dave. That’s not rumor, thats truth and possibly part of the reason WHY JS is resigning. That and his last minute Tantrum insisting that Anthony serve another year of probation. “Sour Grapes” ?? Absolutely!
Sam, I so agree!
Are they kidding me? Judge Perry knew all along that she was serving probation in jail and so did Strickland. This is BS! They can’t stand Jose Baez because he did his job and he did it well.
He acted appropriate in court as well as the rest on the defense team and Casey.
The prosecutors made a joke out of the courtroom, Ashton, laughing all most all of the time, throwing a fit, grabbing cans and slamming them on the stand, Linda pouting and both of them lying.
The rest that you mentioned Sam all lied encluding Kronk. Wasn’t that considered
perjury and why aren’t they doing their time.
I think it sucks Ashton knew she served her time in jail. Whether they say NOW that you can possibly do that. It didn’t go their way, so NOW they make a big deal out of it, while Ashton recommend to Strickland that Casey serve probation in jail. They SHOULDN’T be able to have it both ways either.
Jose’s a damn good lawyer and they are jealous and want to do something, no matter what to Jose, just like they did to Casey.
2 thumbs up Lolypop! Sam too. I dont feel this is far from over by a long shot. It really hasnt been that long since the trial ended and stuff has to go thru a course…. LOL they all want transparency, just not their actions lol I bet in one way OCSO and the State Attny off with it would die down lol
Wonder what else the Autumn winds are gonna blow in lol
JB, yep SOUR GRAPES and the goofies are getting drunk on it lol
Don’t know Mimi!!
REvenge is a terrible thing. WE see it around the country and in
the court house.
They will stop at nothing and how can the bad ones win?
They have most of the power.
It’s over, but the judges just can’t stand it, the prosecutors, the talking heads make sure the country is still in a fizz over it, plus the ones that said they only wanted the truth, they got it and are still raging, but because that’s not what they wanted.
They make lying a big thing until it comes to testifying against Casey, they believe any lie that they hear, PLUS they know everyone one of them are lying. To all of them it looks like lying against Casey, if that’s what it is, even under oath, it’s accepted.
Lolypop, lying is lying, whoever does it is no better that the other who does it. I repost a post I made here earlier
People will believe anything if they either fear it to be true or want it to be true.
UMMM remembet that lady from OC the computer lady about the 84 searches, when she came back in to testify, she brought her attny? yep, they knew they lied and she was gonna cover her a$$. Funny thing about what happened in trial, the “haters” only seem to click in on how they feel about KC and not what was as a whole. A whole lot of “shoddy” stuff. They cant take full ownership. That is what amazes me the most. I do believe in the death penalty, but, in a DP case, there is an AUTOMATIC appeal. IMO this is to try to make sure that the evidence presented was truly enough to justify putting a human to death. That is another reason why a person on death row ends up being on death row for a long time. I also remember that a ruling came out by the (I think FL Supreme Court?) about the DP in FL. Wasnt very good outcome.
RE: Conrad Murray case (Sam)
The case is on pause until tomm (Wed Oct 18th) the Pros last witness, father passed away.
http://www.s2smagazine.com/stories/2011/10/daily-buzz-101811
Prince Jackson will not testify in Murray trial, grandmom says
By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 5:49 PM EST, Tue October 18, 2011
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/18/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/
I am glad the child will not testify, personally. It would be horrible enough if his father wasnt a high profile person, but media being what it is and the child will always be MJ son, too much. So sad for the children.
SAM, look what that cnn article also said. Remb when I said a while back how odd I thought it was that they didnt do tox screen on the stomach contents? Look:
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The Los Angeles County coroner tested Jackson’s stomach contents — preserved from the autopsy — for the level of the sedative lorazepam last Wednesday at the request of the prosecution, Deputy District Attorney David Walgren revealed at a hearing Monday.
The testing was ordered after Murray’s defense contended that Jackson swallowed eight tablets of lorazepam, a sedative, in a desperate search for sleep the day he died.
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I would have thought they would have done that at the beginning, esp since this case built on drug stuff and HIGH PROFILE. IMO
I still have to say I am riding the fence on this, open mindedly, but the def better bring on some goods lol
Article Cont…
The results show “a much smaller amount of lorazepam in the stomach that is totally inconsistent with oral consumption of lorazepam tablets,” Walgren said.
The coroner ruled that Jackson’s June 25, 2009, death was from “acute propofol intoxication” in combination with several sedatives, including lorazepam.
The defense complained that the coroner should have done the test two years ago, not during the trial.
“It’s about the time,” defense lawyer Ed Chernoff said. “It’s about the fairness issue.”
Evening folks.
Hidee NTS! are you being good lol
Well gonna go fix some supper bbl
I am being good because I am so busy researching this babylisa case. I have a problem with the timeline and I do not know why they haven’t found her yet. There seems to be a much bigger effort than ocso in the kc case. They have been searching everyday for 2 weeks, yet not even a smell. So, someone had to bury her deep. When would there be time? I begin to think that either she died much earlier, or it is true that she was kidnapped and taken away from the area. I am not so worried about inconsistent statements from the parents just yet. I want to do the math and see if it is even possible that what they are saying is true. So has anyone done the timeline math on this case?
Ok, got stuff cooking in oven
NTS, if I understand correctly the last time seen was at bday part on Sun, am I correct? Please correct me, been reading too much. IF that is correct, you could very well be right on that (earlier) brb
I don’t know, thats my problem, I need to know more about the case. So far, things are not adding up.
So is sunday the same day she came up missing? or was that the day before? whos birthday?
Dont quote me, going on little memory here, From what I understand there was a birthday (I heard a grandparent saying this) I want to say for a 6 yr old brother of Lisa? And I think Lisa went missing on Tues? I have to go back and read. I will be back in sec
The baby was reported missing on Oct 4, which was a Tues. But I believe the Tues being after midnight. On the live blog http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old?Page=0 i went to the oldest, and it states on the first blog post:
The search continues for Lisa Irwin, who was last seen late last night in her crib in the 3600 block of Lister
by Brian Foster – KMBC.com October 4 at 9:19 AM
Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1bBslFPCA
Here is a pix of her with her brothers, it says she was all smiles on Sunday at her brothers 8th birthday party. Her father reported her missing at 4 a.m. Tuesday
http://www.kctv5.com/slideshow?widgetid=37993.
Trying to catch up on Conrad Murray trial (listening on you tube) read some on Baby Lisa last night. So, if they had bday party on Sunday, that would mean that it was Monday nite that the Mother was drinking on the porch with the female neighbor? Did anyone else see Lisa on Monday? Could something poss happened (as NTS wonders) ON Monday DAY and thats why Mom was drinking?
Thank you, so that adds more than 24 hours to the timeline.
I think mom intended to drink because she is in a video purchasing wine. It is just so wierd that this is dad’s first night on night shift. So, dad’s home all day monday?
This is the thing. I find it hard to believe someone can dispose of a body and hide the smell that fast. These authorities are doing a great job of searching. They continue to search and I can see why. find her and find her now. But if they had all day monday to get rid of her, then she could be 100′s of miles away, or in the river.
i am curious…
have the police gotten the cellular telephone calls for those three phones yet? if so, was there activity during those times? were there any new calls all of a sudden that were coming in more frequently days leading up to the tragic event?
and i gotta say, anyone who says a abduction couldn’t happen, is just not considering the fact that this type of thing happens all the time, there are many reasons folks abduct children, but i wonder if the mom possibly befriended a woman/ma/couple who was unable to have their own children? it is amazing what some couples will do to have a child when they are unable, and maybe this was done by folks who knew her schedule and her husbands and have been waiting for that opportunity to strike – also, something to consider, ex spouses or parents who are estranged from their kids after a break up, some have no issues in stealing the child and leaving the country
it is amazing what a person would do for the love of a child and to have them all to their own
and another question, didn’t they say that this was the hubbies first night at his new late night hours?
it has been made a big deal out of but the drinking part for me is no biggie, lots of very awesome parents have a drink here and there, but i can’t help but think, someone out there was just watching their habits and knew this was the opportunity to take the beautiful baby girl for themselves…
but this type of situation, no clues no motive no nothing… i think the parents knew this person / persons and i get that gut feeling deep inside, that woman loved that baby girl, her daughter, i am sadden folks will judge her just based on her drinking a few glasses of wine and sleeping deeply, i am sure she would have stepped in front of a mack truck to avoid her daughter being snatched from her home and stayed safe, i feel this deeply and i pray they find baby girl irwin, safe and out of harms way soon!
of course i could be totally wrong, but i guess i remain hopeful that these parents did indeed love and only love this baby girl and that no harm was laid upon this child at their hands… i pray for all of them, and i pray that others will NOT judge her based on others biased views and her having a few glasses of wine… i pray this so that we remain clear on the objective at hand, finding out where that baby girl angel is, cuz that is all that matters right now.
maybe she was used to doing her drinking when hubby was home to watch babylisa. I can see an online relationship taking part in this. I wonder what they did all day monday.
I could see someone knowing that the mom was on the back porch sharing wine, possible reason the lights were on and front door unlocked. Poss went in front door and took baby and walked right out front door. If she passed out or whatever, she might not have checked on her. I havent figured out much yet. I think too many people are already getting facts mixed up with what happened to Caylee . Difference will be for many like me in cases after the Casey Anthony case, is the Sunshine Law. OH I did read that other states have them, dont remember which ones, but sure makes a difference. See the LE in these cases arent gonna show their hands or Imo any who
HEY SPIDY!
Need to stay focused on sunday and monday. How can we be sure baby came home after the birthday party sunday. If mom drinks, did she drink that day and did dad drive home? does dad drink?
Mimi, I never thought about that! someone entering from the front while she was out back..that is a possibility.
NTS I have been following this one since it is only about 25 min away. I was in that area on saturday and it was bizarre because I found myself looking to the sides of the roads for “something” that area is full of industrial buildings and they also have underground caves also. The underground caves are Buildings (industrial and offices) under the ground. I am not originally from here. Have been here for about 11 yrs, still those caves creeps me out. LOL.
FYI, They got a search warrant to re search the house. I saw the footage of them searching the house before, used metal detectors, saw them searching the belongings inside. Very meticulous. What do they think they will find? how many people have been in and out of that house the last couple of weeks? I dont know, there seems to be some odd things happening with this case and not only from the parents.
I dont know where bday party was, let me stop my trial on ytube and well slueth lol or try
MWM, I agree. Its like this college student who went missing and they found murdered, well some fisherman found her a good ways away from where they found her car. Which was across the street from the college in a Burger King Parking lot. No sign of her back pack or purse. There is a gazillion places that those items could be. I am not a detective so I dont know what they could be looking for, but what if what ever happened, didnt happen there? Then what? what would they find in the home? Serious question not trying to be flippant.
me neither, flippant.
If someone other than the parents took lisa, then there is a 50/50 percent chance that it was someone they knew. LE searched the neighbors home yesterday now they got a search warrant for the irwins house. The irwins let them search it without a warrant. They say the irwins cant come back to the house. The Irwins (Deb) stated today that she didn’t want to go back to the house. If one of the neighbors or family members were involved, did they have access to the house since the last search?
DB not wanting to go back to the house make me think that she fears “someone” in the neighborhood that can make your children disappear.
ello ello mimi, nts and mwm and all you lurkers
hoping your all doing good
you know that search warrant could really just be a way for the police to double check their findings and if they missed anything, i think that it doesn’t always mean they are saying it is the parents or something hokey is going on, that they are just at a loss for even having a starting point of what the hell could have happened, it makes lots of sense for them to go back once even twice, and i am sure they haven’t just left the house open to the public, and the media would have probably had it on the evening news, mysterious people entering the irwin home, bombshell!! lolol
but i say go for it LE, search that house as many times as u need too, i am hoping for some divine intervention for those folks, it must be hard having no leads at all, the life of a baby is in their hands in some essence at least, the horror!!
Spidey I am with you on the search warrant. If they have a grand jury going on, maybe there are stuff they need. I say better safe than sorry. Once the evidence is gone its gone. Horror I hate anyone going thru such times.
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