Just a reminder…
Cost to prosecute? The Orlando Sentinel reported that it cost $141,362 to prosecute Casey Anthony, much of it going to Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation which tallied up to $82,000.
But the total doesn’t include the costs from Orange County Sheriff’s Office, the lead agency that did the bulk of investigating. For reasons unknown, this file is being held close to vest as they await a hearing scheduled for August 25th.
The prosecutors want Anthony to pay for being prosecuted on false evidence and pay for the shoddy investigation it cost to find it. This amount has not been disclosed.
Some of the expenses filed by the prosecution in 281 pages of documents detailed such items as experts’ work, airfare and hotel stays for witnesses and transcription services.
Among the State Attorney’s Office expenses:
• $20,551 for work conducted by Dr. Neal Haskell, a forensic entomologist. He billed for a variety of areas, including report writing and work on specimens. The state also reported $9,650 for Haskell’s trial testimony and preparation.
• $1,005 for court reporting service for the two-volume deposition of Sheriff’s Office Sgt. John Allen.
•$ 833 for a court reporting service for the two-volume deposition of Sheriff’s Office Cpl. Yuri Melich.
• $2,082 for a court reporting service for the deposition of Cindy Anthony.
• $6,112 for cell phone tower expert Charles Marth.
Casey’s Probation in Limbo
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 should be interesting. Will Casey Anthony be given credit for doing good probation in hoosegow while awaiting her bogus trial for first degree murder possible death sentence or will Judge Perry finally put an end to the madness and set her free?
Casey Anthony was overly indicted and convicted as a 1st time offender for writing bad checks from a friend’s checking account. The checks totaled just under $700. Judge Stan Strickland who was the presiding judge of the Anthony trial and later recused himself, had sentenced her to time served which was 412 days and one year probation.
At the same time Anthony was awaiting trial for 1st degree murder and had not yet been acquitted, something Judge Stan Strickland did not expect.
Almost a month after she was acquitted of all major charges, Judge Stan Strickland miraculously remembered he gave her probation which was to begin the day she was released from jail but the Florida DOC had applied her probation while she was in jail.
In order to fix the problem Strickland signed an amended order August 5, 2011 stating he intended for Anthony to carry out her probation after trial.
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I’m trying to imagine what probation will be like for Casey Anthony if Judge Perry finds some way to justify Judge Stan Strickland’s cry for attention. If, after all motions denied and every law avenue taken falls upon deaf ears of the court, Casey Anthony could be forced to live out another year under the guidance of the Orange County Dept of Corrections.
PROBATION CONDITIONS
There are two types of probation conditions, General probation conditions and Special probation conditions.
Every probation sentence carries the same General Probation conditions:
Report timely to probation
Submission of monthly probation reporting
Do not violate any state or federal laws while on probation
Do not move from your pre-approved place of residence without prior consent from a probation officer
Maintain consistent employment or enroll as a full time student school
Special Probation conditions will relate to the underlying charge and can include:
Not to consume or possess alcohol while on probation
Complete court ordered driving classes and DUI schools
Complete community service as part of probation
Complete court ordered counseling as part of probation
Payment of restitution to a victim during probation
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The DOC will know where she lives as will the rest of us. She will have to obey ALL of the laws as we all should. Since getting a job will be impossible, enrolling in school wouldn’t be a bad idea.
I don’t think she qualifies for special probation because alcohol nor drug abuse were part of her underlying charge so it seems if Casey has a Corona at home with a few clean-cut, law abiding friends it shouldn’t be much of a problem.
Of course, this would have to happen in a perfect world where one is free once acquitted in a Court of Law but as we all know, there are a few rogue mobsters who would like nothing better than to be THE ONE who did the deed. I think that’s a given and Judge Perry will do the right thing.
TheJBMission~
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Sources:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6YxAEVJdY
Casey’s Reaction to the Verdict
http://www.youtube.com/user/HollysGmom
Courtesy of HollysGMom
Thank you David
Aww..thank you David. Rest assured, we’ll keep praying for Addie. God Bless you too for being so supportive and keeping her blogging friends posted. I must say, there aren’t many husbands that would do this. She’s lucky to have you.
JB
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Thanks, David; so kind of you to take the time to let us know how Addie is coming along.
Please let her know that we misss her and are praying for her recovery.
David –thanks for the updates on Addie….. give her our blessings….
David, I pray that the night has blessed both Addie and you. Thank you for the update.
David – Thank you for the reports on Addie and her recovery. Our thoughts are with you and your family.
I have to admit her son set it all up and all I had to do was type! Thank you for the prayers and im happy to report that they worked! About 4 this morning I was downstairs getting coffee and stopped at the hospital chapel to say another prayer. When I got up to her room she was laying there wide awake and looked right at me like where have you been! Ive never been so happy! Shes been off the ventilator since 6:25am and shes doing just beautifully!! Im so excited I can hardly stand it god is good and you all had a hand in it by keeping her in your prayers! Thank you so much!
Great news! Thanks, David. She’s missed.
Oh, Great. Thanks for the update. I’ll bet Addie is wagging her tail before long
David,
Wow, that’s great news about Addie. Thanks for giving us the updates. Please convey our best wishes to her and we’ll keep the prayers coming for a speedy recovery.
Great news, David!! Give her a big ole hug from all of us!!
OK, this is disturbing. DCF closed it’s investigation into Casey Anthony on September 14, 2008 but for mysterious reasons, they have opened it back up and filed a new report, finding Casey guilty of abuse and neglect, if I am understanding this correctly. Read here: http://www.wesh.com/pdf/28835094/detail.html
It also says, “…the body was primarily a skeleton, with very little tissue left other than under the areas of duct tape.” Now, correct me if I’m wrong (I’m sure I’m not). There was absolutely no tissue left other than bone. So, how in the world did the ME give her the idea there was any anywhere? She says that air samples proved a dead body was in the car, Caylee’s hair was found there and FBI proved the presence of Chloroform. It sounds like Ashton or Burdick wrote this. There is a huge section redacted too.
It looks to me like they couldn’t get her through the jury so they are using all tools at their disposal to continue to go after her.
Zuben,
I wonder if it was just a formality for DCF to update the original document to make it consistent with the manufactured lies, I mean State’s evidence, from the trial. They already tried to frame KC with Murder 1. Charging her with Child Neglect now would be Double Jeopardy I assume.
I am glad Addie is doing well, i will keep praying. Sorry i was not around yesterday, I ended up falling ill, had a batch of food poisoning. I hope all of you are doing well, and any update o the probation crap?
Well, TRex, it can’t be an update because they closed the case back in 2008. Yes, I do think they wanted to bolster the state’s lost cause after the fact. This goes on her permanant record so if she ever starts a family again, anyone wanting to cause her trouble could call on her and they will pull up this judgement against her, to lay the foundation for further investigation. I want to know what they redacted before giving it to Wesh.
hello evreyone,
Zuben, like you, I don’t know what the DCF plans to do with this report
Wesh titled the story: Casey ‘Failed To Protect’ Caylee’
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28835052/detail.html
They mention the fact that Lee and Cindy were not interviewed. Maybe this is where the DCF failed?? The report is dated Aug 10, 2011. It’s strange. I could understand IF Casey was not indicted and acquitted on Child neglect, then they could go after her for that. It’s a Mr. Ree to me.
David….thank you so much for keeping us up to date on Addie! God is certainly good! And please pass along my love to Addie. I will continue to keep you and the boys and Addie in my prayers!!
Hello JB, Zuben, TRex, Yellow Dog, Spidergirl, HGM, Hazaka, Misty, Sam, Delaney, AIM and anyone else I might have accidentally missed! Hope you’re having a great day!
This DCF thing is crazy! CRAZY. WHY????
Well that was obvious from the beginning. All the Adults around her “Failed” to protect Caylee. It is stupid Lee and Cindy had not been interviewed. I hope they don’t bother with new charges in this. she can’t be tried twice for the same crime, don’t me they cannot come up with a new crime to charge her with.
aside from the absurdity of that report… notice on pg 9, the CSI states when interviewing Casey and Cindy together, that Casey stated she worked for Universal, seasonally, and provided pay stubs despite what OSCO staed/reported
Zuben and JP —– I too am mystifyed why this report from DCF resurfacing …. what is the point? It contains a crock of crap…… did WESH explain ??
ello ello missionites… a most blessed day to you all
and david, yayayayayayayayayayayayayay and woot woot on the news about addie!!! yay our blessed mother earth is awesome!!
and about dcf and the courts and the everyone who LOST, they are just sore losers and are going to try anything they can to get this girl… esp now since they don’t have AH on their side to press charges and all, watch they are going to pull every rabbit out of their hat… can’t wait to see what is next
just pray these sore losers get theirs already cuz this be NUTS!!
Now I’m left wondering “What is Orange Co up to now???” It’s a never-ending story with them!
Is there a reason Judge Perry is holding off on his decision on the probation issue?
“They” are so sneaky and vindictive, I think anything is possible. Lets keep our ears and eyes opened. I’m getting vibes from my crystal ball telling me there’s something new in the making..
We shall see
You’re right, Misty. Is this another clerical error on the part of Orlando officials or did she produce pay stubs? If the latter, that is one potential reason for appeal. There has to be a reason she walked them down that hallway. If it wasn’t to see if someone’s office was there, then it was because she really believed, in her altered reality, that she still worked there.
misty,
I caught that statement too..Hmm…maybe this will come up when Baez appeals the Lying charges?
(You know me…LOL I get side tracked in topics)
Honestly, I think Baez might win an appeal on those charges. There’s that Miranda Warning thingy thats still in limbo.
Oh well, now I’m off to Walmart. Grrr…I hate going to Walmart but I have to pick up my neighbor’s
Rx’s. The problem with Walmart is that I always buy stuff I don’t need.
Have a wonderful day Everybody!
Be back shortly..
Oh JB-
lol..I can so relate..walk into a store of any type(for me) WITH A DESIGNATED purpose..and every stinking time I blow a wad of money!!…lol..I HATE THAT!
http://www.wesh.com/download/2011/0811/28835094.pdf here is a copy of the actual dcf report on this… not sure if u all posted the pdf but here it is just in case…
Oh yeah…and add to that absurd report…They pointed out towards the end..that George should be or should have been interviewed…wonder how come he wasn’t?
George needs to be INVESTIGATED!
so i guess since all the rock hard evidence that they presented in court that was said to be untrue and they found her clear from all this nonsense… that means that this dcf report is not correct and needs to be adjusted to fit the verdict
right??!! i mean that is what they should do or am i mistaken?
thespidergirl
August 11, 2011 at 4:36 pm
———————————————I agree —that’s why I said the report is a crock of crap!
Bottom of page 3: “The duct tape was found AROUND the skull & mandable.” LIE
Top of page 4: “After a thourough investigation (wherein they never spoke to any family members,not even the grandparents) ….closed the case….determined that the mother is the caregiver responsible for the verified maltreatments of Death, Threatened harm, & failure to protect. (A jury of her peers said these allegations were not conclusive. Since these charges were ALSO shot down by the jury this record should be destroyed. The only proof is proven manufactured “proof”.)
Makes mention of the “31″ days which has been proven inaccurate for some time.
Bottom of the page says “Statements to this child protective investigator. (When did she make statements? Just above in the report they state Casey & Baez both refused to speak with them.
“very little tissue left other then areas under the duct tape.” ERROR/LIE
Autopsy report info enclosed:
B2. The skeleton was completely disarticulated with NO SOFT TISSUE attatched…”
C2: “no visible attatched soft tissue beneath the duct tape
Part D top of page 6
June 9 Both Grandmother & Moither originally claim this is the last time Caylee was seen
June 15 Cindy takes Caylee to Nursing Home to see Cindy’s dad for Father’s Day.
(This information wasn’t corrected by anyone for over 4 weeks when Cindy’s mother blew the lid off of it. Why wasn’t this considered a CONSPIRACY? Why didn’t they consider Cindy & Goerge co-conspirators?)
This report goes on to say that Caseys PARENTS confronted her on July 12. I’ve never heard this before or any information surrounding this confrontation or date.
The Aug 7, 21 & 31 are proven false and should be removed as evidence. Sept 1 & 3 also.
Oct 21 The child neglect case was dropped after she was indicted.
Oct 24 entry states that the lone hair that was “microscopically similar” to the hair found in Caylee’s hairbrush (didn’t Cindy says she had given an alternate brush to the FBI?) PROVES
the air sample test for chloroform.
She refused to admit that she SOLD or KILLED her child (No other options)
Again George slips away. SHould have been investigated/interviewed. Interviewed Casey & Cindy together, what an idiot! Casey has to tell her mom to shut-up & butt-out so she can make her replies and this CLEARLY BIASED investigator acted as if Casey were in the wrong.
Welcome to FLorida, watch as we LEGALLY steal your kids and give them to strangers all while making a profit. If you think I’m joking look into the terms “legal kidnapping” and some extraneous info surrounding the Billings case.
Oh I missed the small part on the bottom….Lee should have been interviewed too. No matter, they had all they needed with OCSO. WHo else are they gonna believe but their co-conspirators?
“I want to report a stolen car (Which is really already parked in my garage) I want to report some stolen money (which likely was spent by my husband on hookers or gambling, but no matter)
No I mean I want to report a missing child.”
That’s right Cindy, Caylee was your last priority after the car and $$$$$$$$$$$$$
David, Thank you for the updates! So happy to hear the good news! Come back when you can.
yup hazaka, something is fishy in denmark and yes it is a big pot of crap i agree wholeheartedly!!
i seriously think that w/o AH to offer them a good reason to jail KCA again, they are shooting for whatever they can get their hands on to arrest her again
sore losers i tell u what…
this dcf sounds like the dcf they have here my state, their motto is; lets take ur kid cuz we don’t trust u and give them to folks who we really don’t know but hey we pay them to take your child so they must be good folks right, cuz we certainly don’t think you parents are any good…
sadly this and too many states have this kind of control over your kids… very sad indeed
David=THANK YOU FOR KEEPING UP INFORMED ON HOW ADDY IS DOING! Please tell her we miss her and look forward to her posting here again SOON! Noni
Anyone have an inkling why this (erroneous) DCF report was released now?
AH was out of town and LE needed a replacement for the please help us stick it to KCA cause? maybe??
lolol sorry i say in jest, but i think it is due to them having to wait until after the trial is over and the ruling is in on her criminal case, now that it is over that made it okay for them to re-open theirs… i think that is why, but i could be incorrect…
http://writeintoaction.com/Bar%20Complaint.pdf
2nd Bar complaint against attorney Kim Picazio in relation to her affiliation with the Haliegh Cummings Missing Child Case.
Pg 2 ” Shortly after I was contacted by Mr Staubs (Between Jan 1 2009 & May 2009) I was contacted by a man named Rev. Richard Grund., Windamere, Flordia. He contacted me by email to vouch for Staubs. Staubs would later tell me that HE PERFORMED PRIVATE CONTRACT WORK FOR GRUND.”
“Staubs told me he wanted to get the truth on record as he was going to be arrested and was afraid that he would be killed in jail due to the things he had learned.”
“During interviews Staubs told that Haleigh Cummings was alive and being passed around by the family. He told me that some of the police and State’s attorney’s involved in the matter were corrupt and covering things up for various reasons advantageous to themselves; and to avoid Federal investigation & prosecution.”
Pg 4 When I was contacted by William Staubs & Richard Grund in the Spring of 2009 I was immediately introduced to accountings of criminal and improper activities.
“a plan to frame…working in conjunction with Law Enforcement …
a person impersonating a FBI/CIA agent” The impersonator told Rev. Grund he had a chaplain’s badge he showed people (making them believe it was a Federal Badge). The impersonator told others he worked “undercover” as a “pervert” to catch other perverts. “was told by William Staubs and Kim Picazio that he was a molester who had molested his own son.” That son later stated “his dad worked for the FBI & many other agencies.”
Exhibit #15 shows Picazio instructing her people online to disavow witnesses. (She not only asked them to disavow people but she also instructed them to discredit anyone who opposed her, even to the point of driving 2 persons suffering from depression into a breakdown & possibly suicide)
“William Staubs told me in a 2011 interview that (impersonator & son) were working with DOMINIC CASEY and reporting to him” (paraphrased)
William Staubs told me he was working FOR REV.RICHARD GRUND & was performing PI services for him. Staubs told me he was assisting Grund in obtaining proof that Casey & Lee Anthony were involved in a plot to gather DNA & fingerprint evidence from Richard Grund’s son, Jesse Grund (Former Casey Anthony Fiance).
William Staubs said Dominic Casey and the Anthony family devised a plot to obtain Jesse Grund’s DNA and then plant it on the body of Caylee Anthony, which they, (Staubs & Grund) believed to have been found by Roy Kronk in August of 2008 (but was not officially found until December 2008).
PG 7 Staubs and Grund were using K Picazio for legal advice surrounding their Caylee case “investigations” Staubs and Picazio had a falling out because Picazio (his legal advisor) and
FBI imposter’s son met with Dom Casey (the person Staubs was supposed to be investigating & plot co-conspirator).
There is more at link. The abuses Mr Holmseth speaks of were also experienced myself and I have a submitted police report fron Feb 2011 I will be adding to this Bar complaint a well as any testimony requested or required. I expect more abuses as a result of this declaration.
http://writeintoaction.com/Bar%20Complaint.pdf
hazaka, My guess is that since they dropped the neglect charges in favor of the Murder charges & she was aquitted they now wish to resurrect the neglect charges. Under regular circumstances I would say “No Way, not gonna happen” but this is bizarre-o land.
Personally, I think the neglect charges were they ONLY proveable charges and should have been the ONLY charges she ever faced. Since she was initially charged with neglect in 2008 and has since spent 3+ yrs in jail, served probation, and was aquitted of more serious charges, I am wondering if the 2008 charges would still be valid. Had she been charged with them as planned she would have already served the time she would have been sentenced. Maybe?
I do question whether Casey ever really neglected Caylee —- all of her friends claimed she was a wonderful, caring mother….
OHHHH happy day… So proud to hear our Addie is doing good!!! Will continue to keep her, her family and the medical prof in my prayers! Sending her much love!
Yea…. I’m back up & running AGAIN. My phone & internet have been out since Tuesday am, due to heavy rain. Got to catch up
How’s Addie doing? Anybody heard? ((((((((((((((((Prayers))))))))))))))))
I really don’t know what to make of this DCF report. Living in FL, I have read many stories about DCF and the strange decisions they make. They may just be doing some housekeeping now that the trial is over, but their timing is what bothers me. Can they charge Casey with anything at this point? What evidence do they have, or do they need any? Is there a statute of limitations? Maybe everyone is getting worked up over nothing, but the fact that part of the report they felt needed to be redacted makes me think something is going down. MOO
Holly, that is a good list of points. I hope we hear a statement from Baez or Mason about this. It seems wrong that she can state as fact what the jury found not to be fact.
Thank you for the Cummings info. This is alarming. You know, from the minute her disappearance hit the news I felt it was connected to Caylee somehow. Of course, the opening statement of trial seems to eliminate that possibility but….As I kept reading more of the astrology of the case I kept being led to images of possible human trafficking, LE involvement or at least some sort of public servant involvement. I kept thinking it is too much to be a coincidence that Haleigh goes missing on the same day as the memorial for Caylee. With so many children missing and killed in Florida it seems that there must be some help from higher up, if only to make sure the perps don’t get caught. But, if I wasn’t seeing this kind of thing directly linked to Caylee’s death, perhaps I was seeing Haleigh through Caylee, somehow. Here is the web page that has this whole story and documents. http://writeintoaction.com/
Yellow … how can they …. the neglect was dropped….
HGM Excellent reportimg and analysis ! If I ever get into a spot , I want you as my defense investigator…. I promise to stay clear of Florida !
AHH Florida , The state that never rests ….
The DCF report is just another of this renegade state’s ploys to get their pound of flesh from an Acquitted woman. The report is not only fictional as HollysGMa pointed out , but is purely Punitive and designed to prevent Casey from becoming a Mother again !
This report should be challenged not just for it’s factual content , but it should be questioned about it’s grandstanding Public release !
I’ve just had it with FLA !
Note * Florida is larger than Cuba ….. But they are approximately the same distance from each other ***** True Fact
http://www.themortonreport.com/blog/unverified-sources/casey-anthonys-lawyer-refutes-claims-shes-in-california-threatens-suit/
Mr. Macaluso threatened anyone who aired these “false claims” with a libel or defamation suit. I contacted Mr. Macaluso, who did not claim any measure of confidentiality in his correspondence, with some additional questions about the home and who was staying there, since it was listed on the market and had appeared to be vacant. He stated that he and his family lived there.
I also asked Macaluso about the TMZ/Splash photos that were posted about a week ago and if Casey had made money on those. His email response was, “All of your other questions are none of your business.” He also said if we were to continue to pursue the story, or in his words, “push it,” he would bring a libel and defamation suit against me personally and the site.
What seems to be the current operation is keep to Casey as hidden as possible to build interest in photos, and of course a lucrative interview with the media. We will continue to pursue this story, and welcome any sightings or tips on Casey’s whereabouts. The public has the right to know.
Zuben, may answer is that possibly in light of not having proof of a conspiracy they had to lay out another plausible senario? If that “account” is untrue it may or may not prove the sexual abuse allegations. My thinking on this in relation to the Haleigh Case is that we (myself & others) have
believed that George could have and/or did molest Casey as a child. As such he would have an un-natural ability to manipulate her. Thus he could have abused, solicted funds for others to abuse, sell Caylee, or fake her death in order to sell her to an abuser/group. It has been proposed in the past.
With all of the case crossings with specific people & the fact that certain groups of people
have consistently protected & worked on behalf of those specific parties to defame, malign, discredit any opposers I am convinced that there is more to this story on BOTH cases.
There are 2 people that are consistently defended & are advised of any mention of their names.
Richard Grund & Kim Picazio. Any negative tweet, post, or article that is made will illicite a threatening response. I have been personally threatened by their “followers” on several occasions. One of whom insits she will make it her business to see that I am hospitalized with a nervous breakdown. They are aware since my police report that any death threats will be added supplimentary to that report.
hazaka – Maybe there is some other obscure law that they could charge her with that would not be considered double jeopardy? I just don’t trust them. Maybe it’s just me.
ANother thing I find so disturbing is that every other person is legally obligated to say ALLEGED except for FDCF/DCF employees in an official report that will be public record & expected to be used in a court proceeding. WTH?
justceforcasey – I like your note at the bottom of your post remarking that Florida and Cuba are approximately the same distance from one another! LOL! I will have to remember that. Very astute of you to notice.
YD I agree that they are “up to something”. They thought the jury would do their dirty work. When they didn’t they knew there would be backlash from all of the “public Outcry” & they’d better come up with something & qyuick!
That public outcry/outrage was manufactured by them, perpetuated by them, & is STILL being perpetuated.
HGM – I also think the “recommendations” at the end of the report were strange. Usually people don’t go out of their way to point out what they “should have done.” It’s obvious now that GA and LA should have also been interviewed and that they should have talked to Cindy and Casey separately, but would anyone have noticed if they didn’t put it in there? Government agencies do not go out of their way to bring attention to what they should have done. DCF could have left that out and just done an internal memo reminding the case workers the proper way to do interviews and not even mentioned the Anthony’s. Maybe it (the recommendation part) was to address something said in the redacted portion? JMO
Thanks for noticing my attempt at humor YD.
Snippet * from the “Who really Cares Dept.”*
California-based E-Poll’s E-Score Celebrity research for the first week of August showed that 53 percent of those questioned were aware of Casey Anthony and her story, and 94 percent of those people disliked her.
OK , I think WE all know that Polls and Surveys , (Statistics) are very subjective , and subject to interpretation.
It’s probably very true that Casey is not very safe in a crowd of random individuals. The media has made her a pariah. So , I’m guessing that the 94% would beat her , while the other 6% would post it to youtube.
I know that my conclusion is based on erroneous figures and “Fuzzy Math” , plus my own dislike for numbers , but , In MY experience most responders to Polls are ANTI whatever I believe. This is why I can’t smoke in a bar anymore.
END OF RANT
Justice for Casey – I thought it was pretty funny. It was one of those things that that sounds very factual and informative. I will try it on my daughter tomorrow and see if she catches it. She’s pretty sharp, though, and can see right through me. When she was younger I showed her a can of tomato paste and tried to convince her that that is what they used in Italy instead of Elmer’s Glue. She didn’t fall for it.
As far as smoking, they rule is that you can smoke in a bar as long as the bar does not exceed a specified percentage of their income from the sale of food. I can’t remember now what the percentage is. Anyways, if an establishment gets most of their income from the sale of liquor, wine and beer – you know it’s a “real” bar. Unfortunately, they are not the nicest places to visit as they are filled with some real characters, as you can imagine.
JusticeforCasey – The smoking rules I just mentioned are for here in Florida.
well back to catching up, as I posted here a couple days ago, where I copy pasted a list of visitors that kc had in jail, on Jan 27, 2010, DCF visited for 4 hrs..If I remb correcty this is a day or 2 days later after the probation ended. I just happened to have a sick feeling, what if they are releasing this report so that if the “father” all the sudden comes forward/ or his family, could they use this report for a wrongful death? Also, I thought I heard or read (poss remb wrong lol) but I thought that supposedly the father had signed away his paternal rights? IMO this all this is hate driven, How many other cases gets this much go over? I thought she wasnt getting special treatment?
whatevertuts Rogério :3
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Hilarious story Yellow Dog, I seriously LOL’ed at that one….
My son was always too smart for my little games , didn’t stop me from trying though !
One day at the store he wanted Ice cream , ( he was 4) , My GF tried to convince him that “frozen yogurt ” was Just the same…. well , he said ” if they’re just the same , I’ll have Ice cream”
Oregon has a different view of smoking laws I guess. Here we are relegated to a rainy back porch ! Real characters = ME
YD – It does seem like some butt-covering going on.
ArkansasMimi – It is possible that it could be used for a wrongfull death suit. It was stated by Cindy & Casey that the father had signed away his rights but we have no documentation so far. If it’s true I don’t see how he could file a wrongfull death suit. If the father never signed away his rights, he or his family may still be able to.
arkansas, hello
i heard thru the grapevine that there was a man who’s family claims they are the extended family of Caylee, that their son was the dad, and that they were going to bring about charges against KCA if their son was indeed the dad… i have to get the bloodhound suit out to find that article or where i heard that one… but i know i did see it, read it or hear it, i wonder if dcf was contacted by them?? you bring up a very good point about why it could be heading up to the surface all of a sudden…
and i think YD you said you didn’t trust what is happening with this, and i agree totally you read my mind when you wrote that, this is a scary set of events that with fla being at the drivers seat scares me even more
i say RUN KCA RUN as far away from this country as YOU CAN, run lady run!!!
Here is a link to The Florida Sunshine Law. http://www.myflsunshine.com/sun.nsf/pages/LEO
there is a section that talks about redactions– pretty good read- here is an exert that I thought was interesting since it stated that Lee and GA should have been investigated (paraphrasing)
A snippet of from the exemptions and redactions among others here is something that may be redacted :
Criminal intelligence or investigative information containing identifying information
regarding victims of certain sexual or child abuse offenses is confidential. For example,
such identifying information must be redacted from the copy of a domestic violence
report provided by a law enforcement agency to the nearest domestic violence center.
Information revealing the substance of a confession by a person arrested is exempt from
disclosure until the case is adjudicated, dismissed or otherwise resolved. Identifying
information on confidential informants or sources is also exempt from disclosure,
regardless of whether such informants or sources may have been identified by other
sources. Information revealing surveillance techniques or personnel is confidential
and yd not sure if the law changed since i lived in florida, but when it passed in 2003 it was that smoking would be allowed in bars/nightclubs where the food revenue didn’t exceed 10%
Making matters more complicated, the mother of a Massachusetts-man named Michael Duggan insists that her boy is Caylee’s father, according a new report from The Daily Beast.
The mother claims that her son often talked to Anthonyon the phone, and once told his mom that she had a granddaughter. Michael Duggan died in a car crash in 2007, around the time that Anthony said Caylee’s dad died in a car crash
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/177986/20110711/who-is-caylee-anthony-s-dad-father-casey-anthony-trial-photos.htm
Link to article quoted: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/caylee-anthony-s-daddy-solving-the-riddle.html
That isn’t a coincidence, says Duggan’s mother, 47-year-old Donna MacLean of Rutland, Massachusetts, who gave a series of interviews, her first, to The Daily Beast. Like Anthony, Duggan had a colorful family history. His parents divorced and his father had a sex-change operation, according to various records, transforming from Wilfred to Wendy—she is now in jail in Florida for serious DUI violations. Duggan (pronounced DUGG-an) wandered South after high school, first to an uncle’s home in North Carolina, and then on his own. “He was living in Tennessee, working for a moving company [when Caylee was conceived],” says MacLean. “He was traveling all over the region moving households of furniture.” It had become “routine for him to visit Florida,” according to his mother. His paternal grandparents had regularly taken him to visit friends who lived near Disney World in Orlando.
http://www.patriotledger.com/news/x411949729 i think this is the accident for Michael Duggan, holy cow his sister died too, oh my, blessings to that family
i wanna hug that momma, bless her heart
TheSpiderGirl
Whoa.. you may be on to something. This smacks of a set-up for a civil suit , probably financed by the A camp IMO. Scary Scary… Run Casey Run is right
Of course , in ANY OTHER state , it would be thrown out of court because of NO Identified cause of death. But Florida is it’s own Country
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/southofboston-ledger/obituary.aspx?n=michael-p-duggan&pid=97113987 here is MD’s obit
yes, instead of us screaming run lola run we need to be chanting for KCA to RUN!! roflmao florida is def it’s own world possibly universe!! hehe
Hey Spidy!
This is the one I was thinking about, is it the same as you?
Caylee Anthony’s Father May Have Been Massachusetts Man
(FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) – There is a possible developing connection between the Casey Anthony murder trial and Massachusetts.
In an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast, Rutland resident Donna MacLean says her son, Michael Duggan, is the biological father of Caylee Anthony, the toddler allegedly murdered by her own mother in 2008.
Maclean tells reporter diane diamond that Duggan was a Hingham native who moved south following his graduation and MacLean insists her son confided to her that he fathered a child with Casey Anthony.
It’s something she says she learned weeks before Duggan died in a car crash in Falmouth back in 2007.
According to The Daily Beast, Casey Anthony had told family and friends Caylee’s father had died in a car accident and Casey’s parents repeated the fact under oath during her criminal trial.
An Anthony family attorney is refusing to relay any comment from the Anthony’s on this matter.
FOX25 is making follow-up calls in Massachusetts and Florida and will bring you the very latest on this story as we get it.
SOURCE: ARTICLE BY FOX25 NEWS MYFOXBOSTON.COM NEWS JUNE 29, 2011
Here’s the double death car where Michael Patrick Duggan died on Cape Cod along with his18-year old sister Sarah Duggan in October of 2007:
http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index.php/2011/06/30/cape-cinema-ceiling-needs-help-the-best?blog=109
(Matches Casey’s story of Caylee’s dad dying by car accident just after Caylee turned 2)
monkeysuncle
Last MonthThis lady didn’t just start noticing Caylee in May 2011. She has been a member of a Crime Forum since April 2010 where she has, in her own words, dipped in the Caylee case from time to time.
She came into a chat room on the same forum in the past 7-14 days to tell us the inside scoop that she’d just realised that she was Caylee’s grandmother and that she thought she should call the prosecution or Jose Baez and that the Anthony’s had Caylee’s hair on a hairbrush and as her paternal grandmother she had the right to demand the DNA test be done. She planned to match Caylee’s DNA to her own.
We questioned the timeline and how she could have so many opinions on the case and be following it for so long before she remembered any of it. Other than her son dying that year in a car accident, it didn’t make sense. There was no proof of anything else.
AND … please keep in mind, she also called the detectives in her area claiming that she’d seen Haleigh Cummings in her doctor’s office in MA.
Things that make you go hmmmm
(Another Caylee/Haleigh case cross-over?)
threesides2everystory
Last Month
The “resemblance” of the photo is artificially enhanced (manipulated). Clearly the little girl’s photo is horizontally compressed.
threesides2everystory
Last Month
The little girl’s photo is OBVIOUSLY distorted. Horizontally squeezed to make her head shape appear similar to the young man’s. That’s just lame.
There may be truth the story. But visual manipulation is dishonest and quite sleazy. I would expect that crap from FAUX News.
(Daily Beast link comments)
HERE’S ONE FOR THE BOOKS:
Casey’s Dad is also Caylee’s dad. I think Caylee WAS a product of incest. I read the whole case in detail plus listened to the recordings. Casey should be put in jail for not reporting her own father.
3 people liked this (WTF?Are people INSANE? WHat am I saying? Clearly they are)
Here’s the CLINCHER…
Whoever he is, the government or someone needs to find him or his family and SOON-they are the only ones that can stop her by filling a WRONGFUL DEATH SUIT and not only make her testify (aka OJ) but win proceeds from her business ventures…calling all people, journalists, etc….FIND them…come forward, e tested….STOP HER from making millions
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/177986/20110711/who-is-caylee-anthony-s-dad-father-casey-anthony-trial-photos.htm#disqus_thread
yes, arkansasmimi that is the same guy, but i don’t think his mother/grandmother was suing KCA and as i got myself ready to search the archives to see who it was, i started to type in kca getting/gets sued and had a brain meltdown as i forget 8 billion people are suing her and that wasn’t how i was going to find that family lolol goodness like 8 gagillion sites came up for various folks out to sue this child
but i do wonder, why is it taking so long to get a blood/dna sample from them, if they believe it, i would be right there at the hospital sticking the needle in my own arm to find out if i had other family members out in the world… why has nothing been disproved or proven i wonder, why no dna already?
Interesting blog
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/16/my-take-casey-anthony-and-the-challenge-of-forgiveness/?hpt=hp_t1
Donna was also on Ghost Hunters Season 3 episode 9
http://www.telegram.com/article/20070621/NEWS/306210014/1008/NEWS02
As they became less and less skeptical of what they described as paranormal activity, the MacLeans began to research the supernatural. While searching the Internet for a way to remove ghosts, Mrs. MacLean stumbled upon the Web site of The Atlantic Paranormal Society, commonly known as TAPS, which is known for its paranormal investigations done on the television program “Ghost Hunters.”
“I had never seen the show, but I sent them an e-mail describing the situation,” she said. The society took an interest in their case and, last October, came to perform a full investigation that was taped for television.
The MacLeans were impressed by the attitude and professionalism of the investigative team.
“It’s not like you can open the Yellow Pages and look for something like this,” Mr. MacLean said.
To the MacLeans, the conclusions of the investigation, aired during last night’s episode of “Ghost Hunters” on the Sci-Fi channel, verified their experience.
“The information we got has made me feel better about it,” Mrs. MacLean said last night, but added, “We’ll move out eventually.”
Thursday, June 21, 2007
http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=WT&Date=20070621&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=306210014&Ref=AR&Profile=1008&MaxW=740
I’ll look for and post that particular episode.
if you note in the report that it states “The Department determined that a new report would be generated_____________________ No other services offered ***there is blanked out where the line after generated and a large paragraph after offered……….then another redaction under assessment…
hmmmm this inquiring mind wants to know why the Department determined the new report would be generated….
Officials from the Department of Children and Families confirmed that Caylee Anthony’s death was the result of her mother Casey’s failure to protect her.
“It is the conclusion of the Department of Children and Families that [Casey Anthony] failed to protect her child from harm either through her actions or lack of actions, which tragically resulted in the child’s untimely death,”
now with that in mind, what if they dug up a dad? or family? or even as JFC says the A’s are dredging this one up from where it was sleeping soundly? i mean they can’t have been sitting by their desks for three years biting on their nails awaiting the one day they could pounce on her after her trial… someone asked them to wake this sleeping dog up, and i sure do hope this dog bites the person who did… curious minds wanna know who it was…
thespidergirl
August 11, 2011 at 10:51 pm
but i do wonder, why is it taking so long to get a blood/dna sample from them, if they believe it, i would be right there at the hospital sticking the needle in my own arm to find out if i had other family members out in the world… why has nothing been disproved or proven i wonder, why no dna already?
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From my understanding, it is this Michael’s mother who is trying to get the dna to prove her belief that Caylee is her sons child. And that the Anthonys would not have contact with this lady. I can understand both situations BUT, I can also understand the Anthonys not responding, it is not their place. It is Kc, and she would be the one IMO, short of a court order…KC would know the truth. Also think of all the freaks (example the dude in prison!) claiming to all sudden be the father. I would fight it tooth and nail if I were KC, PEROID. From what I understand, this lady knew the possibly of Caylee, along time ago, why come forth now? Greed is whats comes to mind…
I dont know it it would work, but since Caylee’s DNA report is already public, from her known paternity test with J Grund…if they had a dna done, could they use that one to compare? And if so, poss this has been done? Hmmm wonder if ole Renegade has anything to do with them????
From WS:
Mark Lippman on NG show weighing in on the Michael Duggan situation. He is advising Donna MacLean to go through LE to administer DNA test.
Police said the state had revoked the 24-year-old Marshfield man’s license indefinitely for medical reasons in 2001.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_8043/is_20071031/ai_n47818008/
MD’s father is from Haines City Florida
Just short of an hours drive according to google driving directions.
Here Is MD’s Father Is In A Florida Jail. Changed Name From Wilfred To Wendy.
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Wendy_Duggan_4339741/
http://www.syfy.com/ghosthunters/episodes/season/s03/episode/e309/nightmare_noises
(2nd part of episode)
Your estimated conception date was between Tuesday, November 9, 2004 and Tuesday, November 16, 2004
http://www.babymed.com/conception-calculator
“Sassy 2 Days Ago
No, Caylee’s Dad is her first cousin from Ohio. He and his family came to visit around Thanksgiving and Casey went out with him to some clubs and so forth to show him Orlando. Casey got pregnant and Caylee was born in August. She was not a month early as Cindy asserts.
Get pics of Casey’s first cousin from Ohio and you will see the striking resemblance. In fact, somewhere on the ‘net is a pic of him holding Caylee at the Anthony home. The pic was taken outside in the back.
This is the real truth, folks, and why Casey, Cindy, and the rest of the Anthony’s never wanted anyone to know. Appearances are very important to them.
Believe it or not. Doesn’t really matter to me.”
(Comment from DailyBeast Article linked above)
hgm is that lady claiming to be the grandmother the same lady in that blog? if so arkansasmimi i think that may answer our question as to why no one paid attention to her, but not sure about the public record of dna, but if she really wanted and could prove it she has the right to a test… i could be wrong but there has to be some law in place that protects extended family from knowing who their kin is… not sure though on that one
lisa interesting blog indeed, i like that way that guy thinks, very refreshing to read that blog (except for those sad stories of course) but i like that guy’s thinking
It appears that once this lady came forward the Anthony’s attorney started “advising her”.
IMO this puts them all in-cohoots. While Mrs Duggan might not have a wrongfull death suit the A’s might. It may be a plan by them to stop Casey making money and suck up a bunch of it for themselves. At that point, legally, they would be able to profit all day long and twice on Sundays but Casey could not.
Spidergirl, Yes, that is the same woman. She also called in a report of seeing Haleigh Cummings in a MA Dr’s office. I will continue to research about this through-out the night. I agree with you, this claim is all about $$$ and 15 minutes of fame. Her previous (literal) 15 minutes on Ghost Hunters was just not enough.
ok so i see now why no one has taken her “seriously” thanks for the heads up hgm and i am gonna help u hunt if i can keep my eyes open – if u got an angle to start a search feel free to guide me, u know i love getting assignments
IT IS MOVING WEEKEND FOR ME AND I HATEEEEE MOVVVINGGGGG GRRRRRRRR pray i make it thru and don’t finally snap my spine in half as my orthopedic says i may do :0 what a super thing to tell a patient huh?!! wtf
whew rant over
but yes, i totally could see this as the thing the A’s have underhandedly gotten the dcf to reopen the case, but i am also happy to read as per the official at the office of the dcf, this was not an opening or a newly activated attempt on their part, it was simply a conclusion to a case that was still pending in their books… i can only hope that this is true what he says…
also i found this from another spokesperson for dcf
A DCF spokeswoman said death investigations and reviews are done independently of the outcome of any legal proceedings.
“These investigations provide critical history should the Department have future contact with the family, or in response to any future concerns related to new children in the household,” spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said in an email.
so imho dcf is covering their butt in the event anyone says they didn’t’ do their job AND also if she decides to have more kids and live in florida they can keep their thumb on her life and keep close eye on the job she does as a parent while under their watch jmo
i wanted to post a funky website that was crazy (promise nothing xrated just freaky in another way) for u all which is the post in jbmission that we should post random things in for all to see?
Spidergirl, I think that “record” will follow her through-out the US in relation to any future DCF case. At least we can be sure haters will make sure any interested parties are aware.
Re: funky website Maybe post it in the Discuss Anything thread to be sure.
sweet thanks hgm just posted there, good to know it was correct
and u know i never thought of that, i guess it would follow you where ever you move, such a horrific report as you killed your kid or as they put it, neglected to protect her resulting in her death… i think KCA needs to move abroad and enjoy her freedom in peace with folks and a place that is beautiful and kind and folks that don’t give a crap or even know that her nickname given by media in the americas is the killer tot mom
OMG are they reading our stuff?!!! I wish I knew how to keep that stupid nejame from sending text msg, along time ago I somehow signed up for msg and he sends abt 10 stupid ass texts/tweet a day!
ArkansasMimi, Who? Nejame? Many people read but don’t post and then take our posts over to where heir “home” is for others to tear apart. That’s why I don’t mind doing it in return, LOL!
I can help you turn off his tweets & possibly the texts as well.
why arkansasmimi what did he or whoever say to make u think they are reading jb’s blog?
and i think u can unsubscribe to those texts, when u get ur next text follow the unsubscribe at the bottom of the page of that text it should redirect you, or in ur tweet thingie there may be a section called settings or something that should show you who you follow and there should be (theoretically of course i am not a tweet expert in any way shape or form) somewhere to allow you to unsubscribe to anything u subscribe too
Spidergirl, Oh be carefull during your move. We would hate for something like that to happen to you and your skills are much needed.
Yes , to remove from your twitter list you have two options:
1) Just stop his tweets from going into your timeline but allow him to still read yours:
Click on his name in his tweet
A smaller window will appear on the right side of the screen with his most recent 3 tweets
Click the green following button. It will turn red and say unfollow
2) Remove his tweets from your timeline AND block him from reading yours (directly)
(If your twitter is open to the public you can be assured someone else will follow you and pass your tweets along)
1) Unfollow him using the above method & then click the small box furthest to the right of smaller window & select BLOCK
I’m going to watch this episode. I’m curious to see Donna , hubby ETC.
(Passes around the popcorn)
http://www.syfy.com/ghosthunters/episodes/season/s03/episode/e309/nightmare_noises
In part 2 there is an interesting phenom happening with a toy operating on it’s own and “responding” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN8tOW4EJNU (Not donna’s home)
Spidy I hope your move goes good, be safe… OK got the stupid tweet prob fixed lol. Oh he sent me an ugly tweet so I sent one in return lol. Yep HGM I understand the take back home and tear apart bit lol. Nejame pissed me off.. lol…but now we wont be conversing lol
i just read his tweet page, at least i think i did what on earth did he say, i have no desire to read thru all this tweets if he is a yucky head and mean
what did he say or was he commenting about something in here? just curious u can tell me to mind me own business and i would be just fine with that too
thanks hgm and arkanasasmimi, thanks for the well wishes on the move and i so don’t wanna break my spine either it is back enough as is, so i am trying to see if a mover can do it, but currently they would like the deed to your house, your vehicle title and your first born grandchild to afford their services… lolol goodness i had no idea summer raised rates this high, anyway thanks and yes pray all goes well, moving is GRRRRRRRR
The McLean House
Spidy, he just said that I was as much a crackpot as those on this blog. but I dont follow him on my twitter just that I think when I signed up for alerts on that OS site you text to a number, and sent alerts to my phone re: KC.
Sometthing I found interesting about that episode i:
“The society took an interest in their case and, last October, came to perform a full investigation that was taped for television.” (2006)
The fatal car crash occurred October 28 2007, almost exactly 1 yr after this episode was taped. Another interesting point for me was that the strongest “paranormal experience” of Donna being “slapped” on the leg hard enough to leave a bruise occurred while the daughter & husband was in the room. ALmost as if a warning .
(chills)
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Massachusetts/Dorchester/rainbow-laundromat/63658065.aspx
http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8724468718
Avon High School
Avon, MA
Class of 1976
Member Since: Feb 2011
“I have been instructed by my lawyer John Q. Kelly not to speak with the press anymore,” MacLean, 47, of Rutland, Mass., told Star. “At this time, I’m listening to my legal advice.”
It was Kelly who convinced a jury to find O.J. liable for the murders of his wife Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman and won $33.5 million in punitive damages from the former football star turned actor.
He also represents the parents of missing teen Natalee Holloway, who vanished on the island of Aruba while on a high school graduation holiday.
“I’ve spoken to her and we are doing our due diligence,” Kelly told Star. ”
He was living in Tennessee, working for a moving company [when Caylee was conceived],” MacLean told The Daily Beast in an interview. + it had become “routine for Michael to visit Florida,” according to his mother . Makes me think of the pill brigade. Over the past few years there has been a crack-down on traffic from states that neighbor Florida, especially Tennessee, because of the Pill Mill situation we have here. Could it be another Case cross-over?
Caylee Anthony’s Possible Grandmother Hires O.J. Lawyer, Eyes Wrongful Death Suit
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/caylee-anthony-possible-grandmother-hires-oj-lawyer-wrongful-death-lawsuit
SOrry I forgot the link for above quotes
well arkansasmimi, that was mighty sweet of him to call us all crackpots, well after meeting you all and getting to know you in a virtual kind of way, i find that i am proud to be amongst some of the best crackpots on the planet then!!
not sure, but isn’t name calling what our children do? but i bet my three year old could have found a more cleaver name then crack pots… just saying
and really? i mean isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?
lolol u just gotta laugh when that happens, why bother
hgm, who do you think “smacked” her leg? you think it was the son sending her a message, i have to find that one, i stopped watching when i heard that show was rigged by a lady who used to work with them, she could have been disgruntled though, but i wonder if they have it on their website…
I for 1 know that it is a small world, but something is very strange how so many paths cross in this case with others…..
hgm sent ya an email… well this lobster mimi is going to call it a nite… check on yall in the morning! Prayers for peaceful rest for everyone! hugs Mimi
Spidy I feel honored being among you peeps too. He is an arrogant fool… once I asked him why he got involved with the Anthonys to begin with, and he smarted me off lol… I havent a fear or care about him, he is just a media whore IMO, take care sweetie, nite
His mother, Donna MacLean of Rutland, said the car Duggan was driving belonged to a family member. Her son was not licensed to drive because of restrictions from seizures, she said.
Sarah and Michael Duggan, both of whom were raised in Plymouth, were visiting a family member’s house on Seacoast Shores Boulevard the day of the crash, family members said.
“It’s just such unusual behavior to be joy-riding,” Wendy Duggan said. “I can’t figure it out.” http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071030/NEWS/710300325/-1/OBITS01
Thespideygirl,
I don’t know who it could have been that would have smacked her. As I watched the show
So I went back to see how the two dates correlated and the best answer I could come up with was that the accident had not occurred yet and possibly it was a warning of some sort? If it was my best guess would be a passed over family member? Anyway, it stuck out to me that the crash occurred almost exatly a year lateter.
I kept thinking “Why hasn’t she mentioned that she recently had a son & step-daughter die?” Then it occurred to me…it had not happened yet.
Another thing is that they decided to take the daughter off of life support after just 2 days. I mean of course I’m not privy to the medical files but I do know of a similar case wherein the crash victim was put into a medical coma for a month to stop his brain swelling and he ended up making a FULL RECOVERY. In fact he went on to father my dear Holly.
I wish this family had a similar experience. 
Duggan’s great aunt, Mary Duggan Watson, 65, of West Bridgewater, said the family doubts the mother’s claim and believes it is an attempt to win attention.
Michael Duggan worked for a time in Tennessee for a moving company, but only went to Florida as a child with his grandfather, Watson said.
“People have been calling here all day long,” said Watson. “It’s a shame … I would pay for the DNA test myself right now to call her bluff, but what is the point? He is dead and the child is dead and it won’t change anything.”
I could only get the cached version as the direct link seems to have been removed. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7HPND&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=4719l8015l0l10094l9l9l0l8l0l0l265l265l2-1l1l0&q=cache:7X37OIyvOkUJ:http://www.enterprisenews.com/answerbook/bridgewaterwest/x817760443/Family-disputes-report-that-Marshfield-man-was-father-of-Caylee-Anthony+Michael+Patrick+dugan+tennessee&ct=clnk
so it was her that was suing too, dang everyone is jumping on that bandwagon
i am going to hit the sack gotta take daughter to summer camp tomorrow early but i will be digging more into this when i get back
very interesting on the show and it happening a year later, and i do believe that it could have been a family member that passed over, little things like that happen to us all, but we are too busy or active to hear or feel them esp with the noise life brings, tvs radios, electrical currents, phones, etc… but u really feel the effect is when ur looking for it and in a setting gear towards quiet and stillness, and in the case being in a ghost hunter setting that is the ideal time to “feel” or “get messages” from those who passed on…
Wow the Astro thread has some interesting info for the day George testified at trial. What they got wrong was that the Humpty-Dumpty issue was FOR George not Casey.
Also there was this: (If the party were not deceased I would not re-post this)
Name: Michael P. Duggan
SSN: 027-70-9727
Born: 14 May 1983
Died: 27 Oct 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (1988)
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137154&page=20
I’m searching for pieces of his life like what moving co he worked or in TN, who his friends may have been there, etc.
Lisa
August 11, 2011 at 10:57 pm
I’m sorry I missed your post earlier. You are right, a very interesting blog & article. I shared it and asked for people to share it with everyone they know.
I was thinking about that redacted portion of the CPS report and I wondered if it co-incided with the sexual abuse allegations I believe Casey told LE about in October 2008.
I didn’t find anything that proved it to be the case but here are some of the thoughts on it.
Arkansasmimi
August 11, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Criminal intelligence or investigative information containing identifying information regarding victims of certain sexual or child abuse offenses is confidential. For example, such identifying information must be redacted from the copy of a domestic violence report provided by a law enforcement agency to the nearest domestic violence center.
Information revealing the substance of a confession by a person arrested is exempt from disclosure until the case is adjudicated, dismissed or otherwise resolved. Identifying information on confidential informants or sources is also exempt from disclosure, regardless of whether such informants or sources may have been identified by other sources. Information revealing surveillance techniques or personnel is confidential.
http://www.myflsunshine.com/sun.nsf/pages/LEO
A SUMMARY OF THE INVESTIGATION OF PRIOR ABUSE REPORTS
Date Received: 7/17/08 (DCF started it’s investigation 7/15 or 7/16 2008)
CPI interview occurred on 08/25/08
FIndings of INADEQUATE SUPERVISION & THREATENED HARM (Same for a drowning?)
Why does the assessment tell us who was there but not what the assessment was?
Also on on a side note, at the top of page 8
“…It is alleged that the Mother murdered Caylee Anthony, but her body is missing for 2 days”
(Who alleged this? and what did they mean by her body is missing for 2 days?)
Next entry:
“On 08/29/08, a supplemental report was recieved. Caylee is in Orlando. Caylee is probably dead. There was no reasonable cause presented for this belief at this time.”
(Who offered the information for the supplimental report? Why were they sure, on that date, that caylee was still in Orlando? )
That is the only DCF report I have ever seen released to the press. I live in Fl & it’s almost impossible to get a DCF report released to you, when it’s about you. I am not believing the crap going on in this case. BUT the case has to be closed, cause there’s no way they would release that if there was anything else, related to this case, going on, that has to do with DCF. IMO this is a way, for any child KC has in the future, to be removed from her custody in the hospital when she gives birth. What a bunch of F*^K heads. (Sorry it just pisses me off) That they can get away with this. I hope CM crucifies DCF for this. I for 1, having dealt with them before, would love to see that. They are impossible to fight, you have no recourse, they can say shit, & do whatever to you, with no charges or proof or anything. They just say what they want, & that makes it so, to the judges & PT’s. They don’t have to prove anything to take your kids from you. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VENTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry but I hate DCF, thank goodness I will never have to deal with them again.
Lisa,
Re: DCF. You said: “They are impossible to fight, you have no recourse, they can say shit, & do whatever to you, with no charges or proof or anything.”
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You got that right. A friend of mine had an aunt baby sitting their kids. She adored the kids. There was a falling out and they told the aunt she could not babysit anymore. In retaliation, the aunt reported “child abuse” to the police (no evidence, just her word). The kids were taken away and the parents abusively interrogated for a week. The kids were totally freaked out when removed from the home. Turns out, the aunt has been diagnosed with BiPolar and severe Depression. She convinced Elvis is still alive. Really unstable personality. Point is anyone can make any allegation and YOU are guilty til you prove your own innocence.
TRex another wonderful thing they do now is teach the kids in school about DCF. So my daughter would get suspended from school & she would call & say I was abusive cause she knew I was going to make her work (clean house, pull weeds, etc…) for the time she was out of school. They would come to my house question me & then say I should let her stay with friends for however many days she was suspended & she got & of any real punishment I could give her. (Smart huh?) Lets reward the kid for getting in trouble at school. Great.
If KC ever does have another child she will have to change her name & SS number & probably move out of the US.
too much power to the kids… a society breaks when you do this
and where i grew up, there was NO dcf, and your teachers whooped your butt in class if they needed too, and there were hardly ANY kids that would dare speak back or be rude to an adult… then i moved here and dang, it was the first time i ever heard a child that was my age (14) tell her mother to go fudge off, i swear i almost fainted and to her it was so normal…
i think it is def smart to watch that abuse does not destroy a child, but yelling, making them do chores, giving them small pow pows (not enough to hurt of course just to surprise them) taking away their privileges/toys and making them feel this so they understand the consequences that life will always bring is NOT abuse…
lisa, what that dcf person did u to was just crazy, and sorry, dcf folks, when you encourage a child that behaves badly to go hang with their friends during a time when they should NOT be out socializing and getting rewarded for telling on a parent or for doing something wrong…your the ones screwing up the kids, NOT the parents…
trex, u said a mouthful there!! and ur speaking the truth, sadly i am well aware of this…
and i ask dcf, why can’t u just take care of your own damn kids???
i had this one lady come to my house, my ex called during a heated moment (just to be a jerk of course) for a diaper rash, yes my friends dcf comes to your house for diaper rash… just in case u didn’t know that was considered abuse to dcf… they show up for it… now of course there was NO case opened and the lady pretty much laughed and left writing it off as a bad call, cuz she saw all the other police reports, but still, had this chick been by the book or just angry at all parents, she could have made my life hell… and funny enough, the day she came to see me, was late in the day, close to 5pm and she said that nothing was going to happen to me and that it was great to meet me and that she had to run as HER children were home alone???!!!!! yes, you heard that right, HER children were left at home alone… i polity told her as she was leaving, no worries ma’am i doubt anyone will call DCF on you… your a mother doing the best you can right?! now had that been you or me, our kids would have been in jeopardy
anyway my rant is over about dcf for now at least, but really, i say leave more parents alone to actually discipline their child and maybe just maybe our kids that grow up in our world will be better citizens of our future!!
I can’t figure out how to paste a photo in here.
hey nts… you can save the photo into your documents photo file and do it OR save it to a photobucket account and it would allow you to do it
wow jb!! My input box is white and I can see my type! Thank you so much!
wow just read Casey is ordered back to orlando to serve probation.
Victory for Team Hate!!
Unbelievable! What a joke Florida is!
I hope the defense team files an appeal..overturn this joke of a decision!
lol NTS exactly Victory for team hate! I really believe our whole political and judicial systems need a revamp! Some of the ludicrous laws and ideas they have . It frustrates me to no end.!
Hope everyone is having a good day
Just heard that Casey must return to serve (the probation she’s already served) in two weeks….. there has to be higher court in which to get this overturned! Talk about criminal!
what what what?????? kca has to come back to florida???
please if anyone knows jose baez, please get him to seriously apply for a different state as a move to do the probation in, anywhere but florida and tell them NOT TO COME BACK TO FLORIDA, THIS IS A TRAP I CAN FEEL IT NOW!!
sorry but this is not going to turn out well, if the courts don’t get her first, the community will, please KCA feel my telepathy, don’t go back to florida no matter what you do, serve your community serve in another state
This calls for an emergency motion to an appeals court concerning her safety. She will not be safe in Orlando. Probation should be served elsewhere. This Judge is out of line and should be challenged by an appeals court. IMO
thespidergirl
August 12, 2011 at 1:48 pm
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YES, heard on the radio coming home that the “judge” has ordered Casey back to Orlando to serve probtion…. the “judge” of course is BELVIN PERRY …SOMETHING HAS TO STOP THIS! Her safety is in jeopardy!
WTF!? KC served her probation? She has DOC papers to prove it. What good are laws if judges can just do what they want when they don’t like the law? Maybe Perry should be forced to serve TWO life terms in Hell for his corruption on the bench.
Besides Perry says “Ms Amfomy” must serve probation. That ain’t her name!! Ha, gotcha Perry.
oh my hazaka, i am so very saddened by the lack of concern on the part of JP, very concerned why he thinks this is okay to do, she has served her time and HE as the residing judge should have been more diligent in allowing her to do her probation BEFORE she was set free,
light your candles folks this is gonna be one of those times kca and jb needs all the goodness sent their way to make their way safely around this craziness that the state of fla is trying to shove down their throat…
i think during this new news i broke my jaw when it hit the floor… i am in total shock over this news
lighting a candle now… and saying a prayer, please our mother earth, don’t let these hate mongers win a score on the side of injustice!!!
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/CASEY-ANTHONY-PROBATION-ORDER.pdf probation order pdf for u all to see if u haven’t yet
They desperately have searched for a way and in this way, they seek to avenge their speculative evidence and failure to send Casey Anthony to her death. Their embarrassment, not coming out as great heros of “their” justice as it was conjured up and not presented without doubt , still must be satisfied in another unjustified act of power. It saddens me to know, from this one trial that there are people so full of self satisfying pride that they must take steps to suck blood from their victim to satisfy the haters so their own political drives are fulfilled, to be in a position to gloat and mock Jose Baez and Cheney Mason.
Judge Perry passed the buck to DOC leaving their discretion to keep her information safe. We all know DOC, they can’t wait to blab to OS.
I think Kc should take her RV (FreeForce1) and park it right in front of Judge Perry’s house each night and then drive it down to the courthouse each morning and apply for a job, then have breakfast at the courthouse, then put in a request each morning to have coffee with stan and belvin, furthermore, she should apply at the state legislature for jobs. If I were her, I would put it right in their face and invite all the protesters she wants. still steaming
thespidergirl
August 12, 2011 at 2:47 pm
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Thanks for the link….. it contains more “coca” than could be imagined!
NTS….I genuinely LOVE you!! That is EXACTLY what Casey should do!!
This is ludicrous. It’s just a way to keep things in the news. Nothing more. Honestly….do they REALLY think that having her come back to serve probation is gonna make her a more productive citizen? Uhhhhh……puleeze. They simply want to keep the media spotlight there, and they are PRAYING that she violated probation so that they can throw her back in jail. PLUS….I seriously have the feeling that they are planning to frame her for some other crime. She knows too much and she can bring some people down. You know the old saying…”keep your friends close, but keep your ememies closer.” Yes indeed. Can’t let Casey get out into the real world and start talkin’ now can we?
notthatsmart
August 12, 2011 at 3:17 pm
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I LOVE your thought …but …..truly,there are toooooooooooooooo many crazies ready to do her harm!
Omar: you may be on to something. She has a venue where she can speak. Most former prisoners do not get that chance. She can blab all she wants now. She can now tell us who was behind the video camera since the sgt said it was a fixed camera and therefore, he should have been in the video,but he was not. How much pain she went through when she fell in the elevator. How Jeff offered her a plea. ect
I really like the suggestion that she should present herself right in their faces. To ask for work right in the courthouse to sit on the steps until she gets one and to let them all know she is not the
dumb evil seed they have tried to make her out. How many will ever apologize to this young woman if and when they find out they are wrong in their hateful opinions of her. If they wanted to do something positive, then help her to become the productive citizen she can be, not by punishment but by giving her the chance she deserves as an opportunity to better her life instead of having to hide and fear. Those who want to harm her are the ones who can not stand to have been wrong in their calling her guilty and I believe if one of their family were on trial they would want it proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Jeff Ashton did not do that, he snickered and made
behind the mouth immature remarks, some the camera caught and heard. If LDB was favorable to his shenanigans then she demeaned her own self respect. How judge Perry and Jeff Ashton can come into a court so biased and supportive of each other in an embarrassment to what we as citizens look to as hope in our justice system was, disgusting. They say Baez and Cheney lied.
They did not lie, they brought forth doubt, that is what a defense does, and the state could not deal an ace over that doubt. I wonder if the LE will protect Casey if she serves probation as community work. Will they be liable if harm comes to her in Orlando? Are they going to uphold the law and do their duty and watch out for her? Will there be a cover up if some harm comes to her and will the haters uphold such an act.
Oh absolutely, NTS. The obvious question is the one all the haters can’t seem to grasp. WHY? Now in an average case, just your run of the mill case without all the hype, I can see an error being quietly corrected BEFORE the “punishment” was completed. But in your normal, run of the mill case, no one would have taken a second look back at the probation issue. Had this been jane doe on a $650 check fraud case, whether or not a sentence should toll wouldn’t even be a question. Had the error occurred in Jane Doe’s case, and had Jane served probation in jail while awaiting trial on another charge….no one, INCLUDING THE JUDGE, would have taken the trouble to “correct the error”. But this case is different. We can’t even say it’s different because it’s a death penalty case. It’s a simple check fraud for less than $1K…..but for SOME reason, legal pundits are insisting that this “error” be corrected so that Casey is treated like any other offender….and the judge is righting a wrong so that “hiding the ball” isn’t rewarded. For some reason, a whole lotta people seem to CARE about this insignificant crime (not that crime is insignificant, but in the big picture…she didn’t plot the ENRON debacle or anything like that) and they just can’t STAND the fact that Casey is in parts unknown, doing things that they can’t see. It’s making them nuts that she hasn’t done a public interview yet. And I fully believe that there are people who will do whatever it takes to silence Casey so that the crap in their sandbox is NEVER exposed. They have 1 year now to plot and plan and frame her. After that year…..well….all bets are off. What’da’ya wanna bet that they somehow put a restriction on media appearances or earnings on her probation???? They’re not fooling me. Someone is waiting for the hammer to drop and they couldn’t take the pressure. Perry is in up to his eyeball.
And just a common sense question here……weren’t the check fraud charges felonies? WHO in WHAT company in this day and age hires a felon? So are they hoping that she won’t get a job in orange county so that she can violate her probation?
Very well stated, Comment!
NTS…hahahha..Love that idea!!
…perfect!
I would love to see a poll of how many “other citizens” have had the same issues tat KC had – and how many of those were revisited unlike this case turned high profile– reading the order, I see were JP blased out JB. Which if that is the law, it should be followed, as should the law where the PT is concerned… which IMO didnt happen, and 2 wrongs dont make a right. As we have all stated again and again, there is so much more to this case than meets the eye. Too much odd stuff. Next yr as I understand is a big election yr for most of the players in this case. So much hatred for this young lady, that is media driven. What about the probation ltr? I guess that issue is moot? If I remb correctly, the DOC stated that THERE ARE INSTANCES that a person does/has served probation while incarcerated…and that too was stated in court…I remb at the hearing CM told Lizabeth in her ear and she state to the judge, that KC “had been released”. I wonder if they have grounds for an appeal? I pray that she has a job with an unnamed law firm lol just to show them! Someday, there is gonna be a whole lot of stuff come forward…and it may not be anything we even have a clue about…I have a feeling it aint gonna be pretty. What comes around goes around and Hate produces nothing positive NOTHING…All the haters keep spewing that there was/is no justice for Caylee, how is this justice for anyone? Do they think that Justice for Caylee is the media spewing hate? It is wrong to wish bad on anyone, and I guess hoping is another word for wishing…. so I HOPE not one of the haters ever is in a position of anykind that KC has encountered….but if they do I pray that they get the very very same justice they are wishing on her. EVEN 1 itty bitty thing…even if just accused of something within friends….hate and greed is an awful thing…people should be careful what they wish for…ok sorry end of rant
Tweet Adam Longo: Confirmed! Defense team will appeal Judge Perry Probation ruling. 31 minutes ago
I so agree with you AKmimi!! Hate never produces anything positive!
NTS…..YEAH!! I’ve been waiting to hear whether they would file an appeal!! That makes me smile:)
What the crazy haters dont realize, IMO, when they make statement like she got away with murder and all sorts of stuff, IF someone HEAVEN FORBID, does try or does succeed in harming KC, they WILL NOT BE IN THE SAME SITUATION AS SHE WAS! They will NOT, have the same fraud evidence, AND YES, it will get the attention, but it will be forced to the same microscope as in this case, because they will not get special priv. Stupid people dont look past there on nose! LOL oh she can get a job, and I can think of alot of ways that she can do prob but the haters think she has to be right out in the streets lol…She can do her prob, relatively descreetly, but that aint what they want….
She has a very smart legal team, and I know she has faith in them, so do I. Thats one reason it makes the haters mad… the team hasnt proved as dumb as they want lol
Baez, Cheney and a whole lot of other decent attorneys will slam Belvin Perry and all the other corrupt “officials” in Orange County and the state of FLA.
“Offical” meaning “officially corrupt” – they’re about to fall hard, because – thank God, there are many ethical attorneys so outraged by Belvin Perry and the rest of the sociopaths railroading Casey Anthony, that they’re jumping on board to help Cheney and Baez breakdown that house of cards, built by the sociopath judges, politicians and prosecutors who wanted Casey Anthony killed so they could win elections.
Really, Delaney? I sure hope so!!
I should say – “look for them” – to jump on board. I’m not aware that any have yet, but I feel certain their many good attorneys are fighting mad about the injustice/corruption and ready to roll.
Omar, I can’t say for certain, but it feels like the collective consciousness of ethical attorneys (a group Jose Baez belongs to ) see the goings on as we do. Difference between them and us is that they can do so much more to right it than we can.
Perry’s ruling on the probation issue reads more like a complaint to the FLA BAR about Jose Baez –
Watch someone run to the FLA BAR with the allegations BP makes against Jose in that ruling.
I’m sure that will make Perry and his partners in crime happy.
I sure do hope others who have the capacity to take action will do just that! I got so angry reading Perry’s order because it sounded just the way you described it above, Delaney. It’s obvious Perry has an axe to grind. I find it laughable that Perry talks about the rules of conduct for attorneys in that order, and YET did NOTHING when the prosecuting attorneys presented false evidence and evidence which had NO probative value but was highly prejudicial (pic of caylee morphing to skull with duct tape while Casey looks on smiling). Perry makes himself look completely idiotic and childish. I DO hope the appeals court overturns him and I hope that they are as snarky in their ruling as he was in this one.
If you think about it, this case not only affects KC, but any other case after hers, and I read that there is a case awaiting this same matter ( I am assuming lol) it is the prob situation, I read on one of the tv/paper websites, while waiting for the hearing last week. Without a doubt there are alot of attny watching this as it pertains to all, when you get down to it. And as I understand, CM is really big on Constitutional rights. Funny, in a way, everyone trying to cover their a$$ and get egg off their face, I bet JA is glad the is out away from it in his face lol..
Omar, I too hope that a higher court slaps down BP and his asinine ruling. DOC said that Casey finished probation, yet he wrote this:
” . . . nor does it involve a punitive effect by requiring [Casey Anthony] to serve probation twice. The defendant was in jail and unable to meet the goals and requirements of the probationary sentence.”
CA DID meet the goals and requirements of probation – DOC signed off on her having completed probation.
I just read an article on The Christian Science Monitor, skimming thru articles, and it made a point…in his order today “Judge Perry did not address the bias accusation in his ruling. Instead, he characterized the central issue as a “clerical error” which, he said, Strickland had the authority to correct”
lolol@freeforce1 sitting at JP’s house, roflmao ahahahahaha now there is an idea i can roll with nts… literally… road trip missionites?? lets roll down his street and park in a public area and do this in shifts for let’s say oooo like three years put him on death row, acquit his charges as he is deemed innocent then have him turn into the top ten most hated person in florida, maybe the number one now… get death threats… get out of the state safe… then order him to RETURN to the exact place that the community members said they were going to hunt his butt down and kill him, awwww how sweet right? i know it would be safe right?? no worries JP, people don’t hate you that much right?? are you kidding that your needing to save face is more important then the safety of this citizen that has been seen as innocent by a panel of her peers, and you want her to come back for her probation?? i think not JP, i think ur getting death threats too, and you are just trying to protect your job, your life and your name… and you think you deserve that safety more then KCA does?? for shame jp, for shame…
if that girl gets hurt or dies in the event of this ruling by JP, and he knows the law, he could have ordered this probation done in an undisclosed place as he ordered the jury to be chosen…if one hair on her head gets harmed… JP will be the dude to have to answer to it, it will be him that has blood on his hands…
for shame JP, for shame…
Ashton suggested she do probation while in jail:
“Mr. George then stated that ASA Jeff Ashton suggested that [Casey's] probation could start that day and [Casey] could do her probaton while incarcerated in the OC jail.”
” . . . I’ve kind of struggled with the pobationary issue, and I’ll give this some thought”
“. . . I don’t think it’s so indefinite as to be ilegal, but I get your point”.
This order has one huge flaw that jumped out at me. First he says that probation is not a punishment, but a rehabilitation. Then on page 9 he says, to not allow the judge to correct this clerical error
Perry seems a little confused or perhaps is talking out both sides of his mouth. Then this…
I am so glad they are appealing.
I looked at Duggan’s birth and death, see no sign that he is Caylee’s father. Besides, the story was the father died on his way to Caylee’s birthday, not in October. I sure hope it isn’t the Eric that owns Bring Kids home.
I continued reading at that WS page linked above and see they were saying she’d get the death penalty: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2818060&postcount=505 The closed the astro forum down after the verdict came in. I think the main problem is they were reading the defendant as the ascendant/1st house but in legal proceedings the accused belongs to the descendant, 7th house opposite. The other mistake is seeing Mars as void of course. He wasn’t and would make several aspects, including deception and hiding the truth, which we all saw the prosecution do. The defense is void though, which usually means nothing to worry about and things won’t go as the other side expects, in an adversarial situation.
Just came home and found out about JP’s order. Both believable and unbelievable in the same breath. i’ve always respected our system of justice but given this case, JP’s probation ruling, the hatred pouring out of people and the total disregard of right and wrong, that respect has ebbed. Unfortunately, with that said, I am now doubtful that an appeals court will rule in Casey’s favor. Justice denied for one is justice denied for all once a precedent has been set. They want the world to stalk her, report her every move, report on who she might interact with in order to further harass her and others. This is vengeance and vindictiveness at its worse by people on a mission to extract their own verdict. I have to step away from this for a while because of my anger and before saying something I might later regret.
Hey guys I just wanted to pop in and say hi and thank you thank you thank you for keeping me in your prayers. Im doing ok, in a lot of pain & I tried to catch up earlier but that pain got the best of me. I have a new best friend that stays in my hand & all I have to do is push a button & I fall asleep. anyway I’m going to try and catch up now& I will chat with yall later.
So very glad you are back, Addie….but please take it easy and don’t over do it!!
While I am disappointed in Judge Perry’s decision, I am certainly not surprised and I’m glad that it is being appealed. All Perry is seeking to do is punish Baez and Cheney. They are the ones that made Perry, the SAO and the OCSO look like the bunch of fools that they are.
Does anyone here really believe that Perry thinks he owes it to society to ensure that Casey is rehabilitated? He doesn’t care a rat’s rump what she does or where she does it. It’s not about her at all, it’s all about him. He is a hero to that 95% of the country who thought Casey was guilty, for a completely unconnected crime, I might add. If the decision does get overturned, he will be able to say Strickland started it and he had no choice but to rule on it. It wasn’t his idea, see?
Omar Hope the mom and baby are doing well, also hope addie is still doing well, Still praying for all 3 now i will add Casey to this list.
There are certain laws in place, probably why the defense team had Casey leave the state if not the country.They can loose judicial precedence under certain circumstances. Prejudice can be one of them, which i do believe is involved in this case, I am uncertain anyone in the USA could be completely Unbiased in this case.
You are OH so right, YD. Ashton himself suggested Casey could serve probation while in jail awaiting trial. This is purely a vengeance/media spotlight move. Period. It’s not rehabilitating ANYONE and it certainly isn’t benefitting society. It’s so transparent it’s almost funny. ALMOST….except for the fact that I think they are just looking for ways to ensure that Casey winds up back in jail…..you know, for failure to get a job or something ridiculous like that.
She could always get a internet job lol… I know there are probably a few people on her side that would help when it comes to that department, what i worry about is forcing her back to a heathen society!
Addie, so glad you are up to reading. Don’t overdo, gets lots of rest and think peaceful thoughts with some soothing music in the background.
Hi Addie!! You take it easy and get plenty of rest. I can see from your avatar that your legs are kinda wobbly. Don’t overdo. We’ll still be here when you’re feeling better.
Addie so glad to hear your doing better…take it easy and focus on getting yourself well
The decision today was just absurd as the DFC report…all CYA stuff. I too hope it wins on appeal but am afraid as Joyce said… The upper courts probably wont rule for her. If something did happen to her, the majority of people don’t care!! What a waste…a HUGE waste..of the so called justice system. Sorely disappointed in the name of justice.
Well, there are alot of safe people on her side who can/will give her a job, community service, doesnt necessarly mean she is picking up trash, if she has to do that does she? I dont remb reading that she did. SO if the DOC doesnt have to reveal her personal info, IF I understood correctly before, cant they give her permission to serve it somewhere else? Isnt it at their discretion? The way I understood, which could complety be wrong, but she has to report by a certain time on the 26th, but can before. Not only does this put KC in harms way but also her prob officer, so I would hope that they wouldnt leak it. Just like those haters taking their young children to the jail the night of her release. What if a riot had broken out? Shooting or whatever? They put their children in harms way! Same situation could happen at anytime too. So now the citizens of OCSO whether they like it or not, IF KC has to stay in that county, they will be responsible for her safety as well as anyone else. OH are they getting the calculator ready for that too? My fear is it will get much worse before ever gets better. Media whores doin over time…
I had this thought earlier, when I read someones post here that (paraphrasing) poss JP was getting threats…. And it reminded me of my favorite Christmas movie, Miracle on 34th Street. Remember when the judge had to figure out what to do about Chris Kringle was he really Santa Claus….then here came the United States Post Office to the rescue and saved him… Thats what JP reminded me of last week…. not giving up hope…..I believe…I believe…
I had to bring this over from Hornsby’s blawg. It’s a list of cases this guy says Perry has been shot down on appeal. I checked out the first one already.
A couple of weeks ago, our host (JB) mentioned a case where a 14 year-old boy took a 3 year-old girl out of a Burlington Coat store in search of the child’s mother. Although not directly connected to the Casey saga, it did happen in the jurisdiction of the OCSO. It caused a big uproar, especially in the Orlando Sentinel, and the SAO eventually dropped the case due, in part, to the public outcry.
Fast forward a year. The same teen is charged with fondling a 15 year-old girl on a bus and sticking his hand down her pants while she is hollering NO. The sexual assault parts of the charges were dropped. Today the boy was sentenced to probation PLUS he has to write a letter of apology to the victim PLUS he has to write a 1,000 word essay about “appropriate methods to pursue male-female relationships.” I guess THAT will teach him!!
Here’s the link:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-edwin-mcfarlane-sentence-20110813,0,4609493.story
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Wow Yellow Dog! And I wanted to give the kid a break…It just goes to show, You never can tell.
Thanks for the update,
jB
hahahahaha Zuben!! I like this Ron P guy over at Hornsby’s site!!
YD…wonder why the sexual assault part was dropped? Is the boy 15 now as well?
Omar – I think he is 16 now. The sexual assault charges were dropped a few weeks ago, but I don’t remember why.
Zueben – WOW! Sounds like Perry is right about as often as our local weatherman!
Hey Omar-
could you do me a favor…shoot me an email at…mtfatb@yahoo.com so I can reply to yours with something I don’t want to post on open forum here
..please..Thanks!
Yeah….IF he’s right that often. What this list can’t tell us is how often he’s wrong, but no appeal is filed. Dirty, dirty politics in Orange County. And to think….Scheaffer said he’s rarely reversed on appeal. If this is what Scheaffer considers “rarely”..I’d hate to see Scheaffer’s idea of frequently.
Does anyone have a link to the orig order of on the check fraud? I am looking too, I bet HGM does lol. I am wanting to see what it says about her probation, I was reading on Administrative Probation in Florida, also came across another site, also came across something called Community Control. I will keep looking but will check back.
Sorry Omar-
mtfatb@………yahoo,com
Well Folks , I guess i expected a different ruling . Maybe I expected that Prudence would somehow be mixed with Juris-Prudence. It would have been easy to transfer probation to any other state, had they felt the need to satisfy their vengeance …… but this is the moral equivalent of tying a pork-chop to a rabbit , at a Pit Bull convention .
I don’t want to read the NEXT Chapter in this story !!!
Baez and Cheney Must appeal this ruling , and I’m aware that they will.
I believe Perry stalled before delivering his ruling , to make it appear that he had fully deliberated the factors …… But his mind was made up long ago .
This is a sad day for Casey ( and All of us)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thH3qnHTbI all these avi’s make me get this stuck in my dang head…
enjoy all you monster missionites (and according to MN we are also crackpots too!!)
http://www.wftv.com/download/2011/0801/28728198.pdf arkansasmimi is this what ur looking for?
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/MONDAYfraud.pdf the actual arrest for the check fraud back in 2008
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_charging_documents.pdf also one of the original charges set by court for the check fraud case
let me know if you are still looking for something else or if these were it arkansasmimi
Misty…what are you sorry for?
Oh…nevermind Misty. I didn’t see your earlier comment. I gotcha! Doin’ it now.
Misty….you have mail (I hope).
OMar-
If Katy shows up that’s a pseudonym…lol..
and you should have mail too!
even though i am a lady, i will be singing this song to ALL politicians, police, judges, prosecutors and just whoever wants to tell me they are going to rule my life when they can’t even run their own…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNLDns41jBQ&feature=fvwrel “where’s the scatman ? i’m the scatman. why should we be pleasin’ all the politician heathens who would try to change the seasons if they could, the state of the condition insults my intuition and it only makes me crazy and my heart like wood. everybody stutters one way or the other. so check out my message to you. as a matter of fact don’t let nothin’ hold you back. if the scatman can do it brother so can you. i’m the scatman. ”
this is my new national anthem… everyone has a scatman deep inside them, so don’t let NO BODY tell you your not…
KCA i am sending vibes that you remember they can’t control you (your mind is always YOURS to keep) and to please STAY away from florida – please for the love of all that is holy, stay away!!
always know there are folks out here in the world that adore you and want nothing but the best in life for you KCA, we think YOU ROCK!!
(warning if you have bad hips i do NOT recommend opening that song, it has a way of making anyone of any age or health condition break out in dance)
THANKS, Spidy, I read the orig order, and the order just issued from JP, LOL and to the haters KC can drink alcohol if she wishes, just not in excess according to those 2 orders so nope cant get in trouble for the Corona! lol. And I am no legal person, but if you look at the orig order, it says KC cant change residence or leave county of residence with out first precurring the concent of her probation officer…SO technically I dont see ANYWHERE where it states KC must live in ORANGE COUNTY OR ORLANDO…Also, I was reading about the Administrative Probation that JB asked for, it states must serve half of prob time first, then if granted by DOC unsupervised for remainder. But she must not get in trouble during the first half…Can one of you legal eagles tell me if I understood the residence issue correctly? IF SO, doesnt this poss give leeway for the DOC to give permission to have her probation transfered? In the order JP issued, Doc is authorized in its discretion to keep confidential KC residential info and any other info that could lead to the discovery of her location…so I dont see anywhere that restricts her to live even in FL? Anyone know?
There is still one big issue with this order, They better pray Casey didn’t go to a DMV and obtain residency here say in California. The law here is direct, you have 30 days in the state to obtain a drivers license or a state ID if you wish to remain resident here more then 6 months. I just did this a few years ago. Also if they did file a court hearing on this case and are requiring her to go to Florida with out permission from the state of California. She may not have to follow through, that would depend on a California judge and if she changed her state of residence.
Ok again I am not legal eagle, BUT Technically, it does NOT say in JP order that KC has to report in person, just that she has to arrange a time and place for her reporting to probation! Now where does this mean she has to report in person ANYWHERE lol
Can anyone do a screen capture for me at the OS blog? Date is 8/12/2011 and the comment was made at 8:22 pm by Just Sayin. I have copied and pasted the comment and sent it to an attorney. I have also notified the Sentinel. But I need the screen capture of the page and I can’t capture it on this computer. Please and thank you. And if whoever can capture it will email me or email JB, I’d appreciate it. Thanks so much.
Here’s the link:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/08/casey-anthony-who-will-hire-her-hln-anchor-asks.html/comment-page-2#comments
ok, lol tell me how Omar, all I know how to do is copy paste lol
dome omar, tell me where to send it dear
ok Omar, I will try lol, but I dont know how to do anything but copy /paste, or at least I think thats all I know lol
lolol i really should spell check
i have done your screen shot and am forwarding to jb email now omar
arkansasmimi for future reference, you hit control button and print screen at the same time then open paint shop and paste in there
Thank you so much Spidergirl!!
AKmimi….thank you too!! I have no “control” function on this keyboard, so I can’t do a print screen to capture the screen. I can only copy and paste like you. But Spidergirl is absolutely correct on how to do it.
Spidergirl….again, thank you. Hopefully JB will forward that on to me. I can’t put my email address on here. Bad enough they have my name! LOL. But I don’t care if you have my email address if JB can give it to you!!
darn I didnt mean to post twice…sorry JB… I had to reboot and didnt know it posted lol..
THX SPidy your the bestest lol
Hello Everyone,
Great comments!!
I just put up another article on this topic. Needless to say I’m livid with this idiotic ruling! But NOT surprised. We all know by now that JP isn’t so fair and honorable would dare go against his buddy Stan!
http://thejbmission.wordpress.com/2011/08/13/judge-perry-orders-casey-to-2nd-probation/
what does this mean? it came up when I posted my last post :1 Trackback or Pingback for this entry:
no worries at all omar, it is my pleasure to do it, anytime okay just let me know whatever i can do
so sorry u have urself a stalker and that they know your name too, how creepy is that?!! shame on them for ever slandering or even mentioning your name, shame shame… now, the thing about stalkers is, they are just NOT worth it if they don’t bring you pretty flowers and clean your house while you work… not worth it at all!!
Omar I tried it lol and sent to your email… and I have a very good theory!!!!
Hey hey Addiewag!! So nice to see you! You’re a good little recouperator!
Your husband is a great guy and he kept us posted while you were resting. It seems that you gave them a little scare too??? Hmmm..well, I’m just glad that you’re doing so much better. Please take it easy girl!
JB
Thank you Spidergirl and Akmimi!!
(1) Whenever punishment by imprisonment for a misdemeanor or a felony, except for a capital felony, is prescribed, the court, in its discretion, may, at the time of sentencing, impose a split sentence whereby the defendant is to be placed on probation or, with respect to any such felony, into community control upon completion of any specified period of such sentence which may include a term of years or less. In such case, the court shall stay and withhold the imposition of the remainder of sentence imposed upon the defendant and direct that the defendant be placed upon probation or into community control after serving such period as may be imposed by the court. The period of probation or community control shall commence immediately upon the release of the defendant from incarceration, whether by parole or gain-time allowances.
(2) The court may also impose a split sentence whereby the defendant is sentenced to a term of probation which may be followed by a period of incarceration or, with respect to a felony, into community control, as follows:
(a) If the offender meets the terms and conditions of probation or community control, any term of incarceration may be modified by court order to eliminate the term of incarceration.
(b) If the offender does not meet the terms and conditions of probation or community control, the court may revoke, modify, or continue the probation or community control as provided in s. 948.06. If the probation or community control is revoked, the court may impose any sentence that it could have imposed at the time the offender was placed on probation or community control. The court may not provide credit for time served for any portion of a probation or community control term toward a subsequent term of probation or community control. However, the court may not impose a subsequent term of probation or community control which, when combined with any amount of time served on preceding terms of probation or community control for offenses pending before the court for sentencing, would exceed the maximum penalty allowable as provided in s. 775.082. Such term of incarceration shall be served under applicable law or county ordinance governing service of sentences in state or county jurisdiction. This paragraph does not prohibit any other sanction provided by law.
(3) The court may also impose split probation whereby, upon satisfactory completion of half the term of probation, the Department of Corrections may place the offender on administrative probation for the remainder of the term of supervision.
(4) Effective for offenses committed on or after September 1, 2005, the court must impose a split sentence pursuant to subsection (1) for any person who is convicted of a life felony for lewd and lascivious molestation pursuant to s. 800.04(5)(b) if the court imposes a term of years in accordance with s. 775.082(3)(a)4.a.(II) rather than life imprisonment. The probation or community control portion of the split sentence imposed by the court for a defendant must extend for the duration of the defendant’s natural life and include a condition that he or she be electronically monitored..
Okay was reading the Rules http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Index&Title_Request=XLVII
Also learned that If a person who was sentenced in a crime,given a probation allowance and was then charged with another crime during the same time period that, the original ruling for probation is to be revoked and the jail sentence carried out. From what i have read so far it does not give authority for a judge to suspend a sentence until hearing what the charges of a latter case will be. When she was indicted on Capital Murder, her probation should have been denied and been forced into finished her original sentence in jail while waiting for her court hearing on the capital crime.BUT I may be wrong i am exhausted right now.
Morning all….was pleased to see “Addiewag:” is well enough –even with her “new” push button friend” to come online!! So DISGUSTED with JP’s erroneous ruling…..!!!!
Just heard that it was HORNSBY who brought the clerical error of Casey’s probation to the courts!!!!! It was reported on NBC Today Show….
Hi hazaka,
I heard that too. It’s not that care if Casey has to serve probation. My goodness, she would have been just as thrilled to walk out of that courthouse with or without probation. lol..
It’s just the principal.
BTW, there’s a new thread up on the home page.
thanks for the update too.