…What takes place the rest of the evening of July 15 and into the next day on the phone also has me puzzled. The first line of Yuri Melich’s report beginning on doc page 2 says he was called and briefed by Sgt. Reggie Hosey at 00:45 July 15. Just as Cindy had to point out to Ms Burdick in court on July 15, 2010, that the date was incorrect, once again there is a typo. It had to have been 12:45 am on July 16. The date isn’t the only contradiction because, if I have my facts correct, Casey’s phone dialed his cell number at 12:02:43 am on July16th. The duration was 111 seconds. The number is 321-278-9765. This is a cell with Sprint Spectrum, Switch: ORLEFLKTCM0. This exchange covers Brevard County, Cape Canaveral area; Metro Orlando. When I first looked it up the page said it was located in Titusville but others say Orlando. The 321 area code covers Winter Park, Titusville, etc, not Orlando. Whether this number belongs to LE or someone else, this is the first time I see the number show up. It clearly isn’t a number on her sim or phone memory so LE couldn’t have been calling her contacts.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4619246&postcount=61 and
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4619386&postcount=62 has statements by a couple of bloggers saying this number belongs to Yuri Melich and was called 3 times by Tony L from his own cell phone (which doc I can’t locate) before midnight on July 15:
7/15/2008 10:28:20 PM
7/15/2008 10:33:25 PM
7/15/2008 11:09:20 PM
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Lee called Tony at 9:45, 10:25 and 10:35 pm. Notice one minute after Lee calls Tony, Tony calls this number. Then Casey’s phone dials it at 12:02am 7/16. This blogger speculates that there is a phone assigned to who ever is the lead detective and it is passed on to anyone that takes over, thus Allen could have had this phone until Melich entered the picture. In this portion of the bond hearing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeLdTCOF2lM Melich said it took him a half hour to get there, but he didn’t arrive until 3 hours later, about 3:30-3:45. He said he was at home, it didn’t take him long to dress but didn’t seem to want to explain why he was delayed 2.5 hours. He also said he was called at 12:45 so if this call at 12:02 am and the earlier calls from Tony turns out to be to him, he has a problem. Listening to him, I found it interesting that he lives in a community with a lot of Hispanics with a lot of people bearing the name Zenaida, he pronounced the ai as an E.
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From the court docket: 08/21/2009—Order— COURT GRANTS RECORDS FROM PHONE CALSS FROM 6/1/08 – 12/18/08 TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COURT WITHIN 30DAYS FOR IN CAMERA REVIEW. If his cell records have been released and I missed them, it would have been sometime late 2009.
Melich’s number is 321-388-2396, listed in his contact info on official letters. He dialed Casey’s phone and she picked up the voicemail at 11:30:22am on July 16 and then Casey’s phone dialed this mysterious 9765 at 11:30:48, a 319 second call, after sending and receiving a text to and from Brittany S. It might look like his calls were being forwarded but he called her from his official number, 2396 and she picked up his voicemail again at 11:44:50am, so I’m not sure. If a number is forwarded to another number, would it show as the number called or the number it is forwarded to? Were his cell calls from the 2396 phone being forwarded to the 9765 phone or visa versa, or is it someone else? That this number never shows up until after the 911 calls tells me it is important.
Three minutes after the 12:02am call the number for J Dale Hopkins is called and the report said it was LE that called his parents house and left a message. So it must have been the officer that was at the Anthony home and probably the same one that picked up the phone from Tony L. So either Hosey wasn’t the first to fill him in or something else is going on. Perhaps they don’t consider 43 minutes discrepancy important, but wouldn’t you think, if there is something suspicious going on that they might consider Casey’s phone as evidence and use their own phone to make business calls? Furthermore, why is the line for this call left blank on page 4282, the phone record where they’ve entered the names of the other person? There is another error on that page too. They say the following call at 12:05 am is to Gabriel Flete, not Jeff Hopkins. I think this defense team deserves double pay from the state just to compensate for all the man hours necessary to wade through and correct the mistakes so they know what they are actually working with…
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Now, I’m sure it isn’t standard procedure to use a suspects phone to make business calls but, it looks like that may be what was going on, unless it was a personal call being made. We know that LE is the one that retrieved the phone and the one that made those first calls, according to police report. Well, there it is. If I suddenly disappear you’ll know that I was falsely arrested to shut me up.
Courtesy of ZubenElSchemali
Wow. I’m amazed. I’m going to get sleep and look at this again tomorrow. You guys are way out of my league.
Hi All. Thanks, JB for posting this because I’d like to see what others make of it. There was a lot more info in that original email but I don’t recall what was left after the first part you posted here. Sometime you could look through and see if there is anything else you think is important.
If any of you have saved docs on your hard drive, I have a few holes I’d like to fill. I’ve been noticing more and more links are not working so if you want anything you see, later, you’d better download it. The first gap in my docs I’d like to find is hand written pages 583-646. I’d also like to find the complete billing cell records. I only have a page or two that was in one of the docs and I have all the tower phone records released in the first 582 pages early on. Since this info above comes from someone at Websleuths, referring to Tony Lazarro’s cell records, if anyone has them I’d really like that too. I have confirmed through Casey’s tower phone records that she called this number at 11:30:48 am on July 16, which is before her Universal trip. But I haven’t been able to confirm that this number is actually another for Yuri Melich.
Now, what is interesting, if this is his number, is the fact that he called and left a voice mail, which she picked up at 11:30:22, just seconds before. She made a couple of quick texts with Brittany S then called the 9765 number. Now, we know that she called him back and agreed to go to Universal with him and I don’t see where she called his official number. She picked up another voice mail from his official number at 11:44:50 but I don’t see anywhere that she called him back at the official number he called from. The only thing I see is the 9765 number so did he give that as the call back number in the voice mail? Damagdpets, feel free to chime in here.
I do not agree with your analysis of people and events and won’t be back. thanks
Lona1, I’m sorry you are offended. I didn’t state any opinion here at all. I simply stated facts and linked to some information posted by Websleuth’s bloggers. If the facts are offensive, there is nothing I can do to help you, since I don’t create the facts. If you have a problem with the WS members quoted above, I suggest you take it up with them, since they are not here, as far as I know.
Have a great day.
Hahahaha these are your written words “From the court docket: 08/21/2009—Order— COURT GRANTS RECORDS FROM PHONE CALSS FROM 6/1/08 – 12/18/08 TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COURT WITHIN 30DAYS FOR IN CAMERA REVIEW.
I guess you think people don’t make mistakes when typing up words spoken by others. Check out your words! What is Calss? You sound like Cindy. Everybody else is wrong. The Deputies the investigators etc. Now why in the world would these strangers want to set up Casey? You are so funny! Remember nobody from LE knew Caylee was dead at the early part of this case. So tell me again why you think someone else could be the killer? I’ll wait for the trial to get information from LE & experts. What is your qualifacations regarding interpeting evidence? I’m amazed that you seem to have an excuse for every piece of information that has been put out by the legal system. Are you a member of Casey Anthonys immediate Family?
Hey Lonal I don’t blame you for your comment. I come to this blog only when I need a good laugh every once in a while!
ZubenElSchemali
February 19, 2011 at 10:47 am
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Point is……. everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion … but not his or her own facts! Good for you.
Mysty
February 19, 2011 at 11:29 am
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Your comment was quite sad and inappropriate. There are a number of informed, interested bloggers here who don’t just spout emotions. Actual research takes place here.
Mysty,
Might I suggest getting out for a day, perhaps making some friends, or going to a comedy club? Your repressed anger and frustration are showing. If you don’t like the facts or the comments, perhaps you should not come to this site.
Oh my! Are you saying you are getting your facts from webslute bloggers???? Are you kidding me. I work for a police department and I can tell you these Officers and investagators work vey hard to uncover the truth. I’m not saying that they are all perfect but you are N OT going to find everyone of them on a case dishonest, espeically when a child is involved they take this to heart. How come you don’t put up information from other blog sites?
You’ve given me my morning chuckle, Mysty. I’ve never claimed to make any mistakes, especially typos but you are extremely mistaken. I copied and pasted that directly from the court site when I created the document I took this from, June 28, 2010. I thought about editing but I don’t think it would be proper to change another person’s words, especially when it comes from a court. I just went there to see if it was still listed and they have taken away all the UPPER CASE entries, likely when they redid their site to include the quick link page to all the court motions. But I just revised the link for the high profile Casey Anthony page and that has changed too, it seems, must be recently. It can now be found here: http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/High-Profile-Cases/Anthony/orders&motions.shtml But you will notice that neither the clerk court docket or the orders & motions link show nothing of this order at all. Maybe the clerk or the webmaster didn’t like it? All I know is that it was there last June and at that time, all those entries were in caps. I rarely use caps, unless it is one work for emphasis.
See, I was chuckling so hard I left out a word. That should read, never claimed to not make any mistakes. Have a great day.
How funny you all can be! You all talk the talk but don’ walk the walk.
Simply my opinion is as good as yours but the difference is I get my opinions from reading documents MYSELF which comes from the Florida court to determine my opinion not from a bunch of bloggers!
Who says that I must make more friends or go to a comedy club to be entertained! I get it from here…
Hey you all can have you own opinions, this is of course America, but don’t pass webslute bloggers opinions as if they are facts.
Mysty, you are mistaken, once again. I never said I take WS blogger’s statements as fact. They claimed to have gotten this from TLs phone records. I wrote to ask where they could be found and was ignored. So, what can I say. I have asked more than once publicly for anyone having that doc to share a link but no one has ever replied. When I tried to research that phone number, other than the fact that it is a sprint cell, all I could find through google is the two posts I linked above. Take it up with them. I didn’t state it was a fact, I stated it came from them.
When you write a statement and then refrence a bloggers opinion (which you’re unable to verify) as if it were fact is an issue for you. YOU put it in your blog document. If I were trying to verify important information I sure would not put it in my document if I myself couldn’t verify that information through the court.
Zub, Chiming in! Like you there are many docs and or video no longer available. Since the beginning I went to over a dozen sites to follow, many sites stopped or closed now. WS and Hinky were by far the best source or quick reference to actual docs. The problem is still there…not all info was downloaded by all or we would be able to find them. There is something else to consider. We don’t know if any info on the phone pages was redacted. I hardly think it was can’t be totally sure. I did not download everything.
The night of June 15th and Yuri taking a couple hours to get there has puzzled me as well. I have no idea if he spent time on the phone with the dept and first responders. I don’t know how many officers showed up that evening after the third 911 call and talked to the family members. Lot’s ‘O’ questions. Where is the Black officer that Cindy gave Zanny’s address and phone numbers too? Time lost…what happened that took LA over two hours to get back with a computer that worked earlier in the evening and on return the memory gone? I have too many questions. The phone number you cannot trace, if important, will surely come out in trial. The most crucial time in this case was the first 24 hours of investigation but it came a month late. I know we don’t think the same but with the time loss this case has been like a puzzle with many pieces missing. The missing pieces only KC can provide.
PS: I want definitive answers that are not there and share every one’s frustration but if the searchable discovery, that is available, is all we have hopefully it will be answered at trial.
Zuben! tell me which items on my list is incorrect!
Casey did not tell to anyone that her daughter Caylee was missing
between June16-July 15 2008.
Was Casey out shopping at stores & having fun at the night club Fusion during this time.
Zanny the nanny has never been seen by any of Caseys friends or family and can’t be found by LE.
Last person to be seen with Caylee was Casey;
Is there any phone records that indicate a call came in from any number at noon to Casey from her daughter.
The trunk of the car, driven by only Casey, had the smell of a dead body ordor in it,(Cindy & George started this issue). Dead give away
(sorry don’t mind the pun!)
There’s alot more but I won’t bore you.
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Casey told law enforcement that she dropped Caylee off at the Nannys apartment then went on to work at Universal.
( Now why would she say that when she did’nt have a job to go too and no one lived in that apartment)
Thanks D. What do you make of that order to present TL’s phone records for in camera review, not being listed on the current version of the court records at my orange county. I’m sure of when I copied that entry but it isn’t there, at either address for the court now. You’re right, both Hinky and WS, as well as Dominc Casey has done a pretty good job of gathering links and uploading docs but many links are no longer working and I’ve looked for the TL phone record they are referencing and can’t find it anywhere. I also haven’t found the complete billing records. Do you have them or only the tower records. There is some difference between the two according to the little bit of the billing record I do have. That doesn’t make sense either. All the numbers called should show the same on both versions.
Mysty
February 19, 2011 at 1:10 pm
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Why are you so bitter?
Zub, I don’t have the info…partial at best but wouldn’t help. The TL In Camera must not have been important enough to release. There may have been some privacy issues because Baez wanted his records for an unreasonable amount of time period. I thought that was addressed in open court. It’s like the In Camera about how Baez spent the money. The judge decided not to release that info. Maybe those questions will be answered after if at all.
Gee Hazaka how do you get bitter out of what I said?? Seems to me you just don’t like my opinion. To bad so sad. I don’t care what you think.
Mysty
February 19, 2011 at 3:17 pm
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As it’s said …..”what evah!” All the best to you…..
Good Afternoon Hazaka & Zuben,
Wow, where do they come from? lol.. I’ll brb
JB—- amazing to me ………….
xoxoxooxoox
See JB this just what I mean by Hyocrite. Your remark indicates that you may think I’m like a crazy nut! Well thats OK! Thats your opinion.
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Mysty,
I don’t have to defend myself to anyone. I’m NOT the news media. lol I’m a blogger. Big difference.
I didn’t say you are a crazy nut but you are the one who’s name calling..and I’m sorry but thats not allowed here.
jb
Post Arrest
When Casey made the trip to Universal she took her phone along. It stayed at the police station with her, according to the tower phone records which run though July 17. This version of the cell records suddenly quit recording the tower though, at 1pm exactly. Doc. pg. 2584 is the Call to Destination report for July 16 and one for July 17. It shows that Casey’s cell phone called Casey’s cell phone. These Call to Destination records are of voice activity. Would it show up like this if someone is checking the voice mail? I believe so. She couldn’t have done that since she was sitting in a jail cell or interrogation room. It was made at 12:14:57 on July 17. Perhaps LE was checking her voice mail. But I find it curious that if they were watching her phone after her arrest, that they didn’t follow up on a certain call that came in.
I hadn’t originally looked at her cell records closely after her arrest. I thought it was nothing but friends sending well wishes, a lot of them myspace messages. But July 17 at 12:15:02, right after Casey’s number dials her own number, an 8 second call comes in from a Miami number. This stands out for more than one reason. Casey said that Zenaida had Miami connections. She said that Caylee called her around noon but she said that on the 15th. The number is (786) 308-5413, an unpublished land line from Miami, according to White Pages. I haven’t seen this number before in the records.
The call at 12:14”57 isn’t shown on the cell tower records, only on the Call to Destination page. Notice they are only 5 seconds apart. If a hacker had control of her phone, how might it show through her phone records? Surely, this is important and if LE had her phone, why didn’t they follow up to track this Miami number down? If LE was checking her voice mail on July17 why is their no mention of that? Surely this is possible contamination of evidence if just anyone is messing with her phone without orders to do so.
Submitted on 2011/02/20 at 9:52 pm
JB, I wonder if the Ortiz that is related to Franck might have ties to Jesus Ortiz? Remember the guy that was rumored to be Caylee’s bio dad?
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Hi Sparkle, I’ve moved your comments from “What About Kathi” to this post because it fits best into this topic. I hope you understand.
JB
Submitted on 2011/02/20 at 9:54 pm
Zuben I’m so glad you are taking a closer look at the phone records. There are so many little things that I noticed but couldn’t find answers for.
Submitted on 2011/02/20 at 10:09 pm
Thanks, Sparkle. With my limited resources though, there isn’t many answers I can get, only more questions, I’m afraid. Here’s another mystery.
Page 2144 may contain one of the missing reports I’ve been looking for from the first responders on June 15. Many have wondered who the female officer was that took something from her wallet. I assume it must be this officer that also played an active part on Suburban drive, sifting the crime scene. I think she was also the one that came on August 11.
The report was dated July 15 at 20:44 (8:44pm), by officer Adrianna Acevido and approved by Yuri Melich, but not until October 18. Why so long? Renden Fletcher was already on scene when she got there and Eberlin arrived shortly after. She wrote that Casey entered her marked car voluntarily to show them where she left Caylee. Now, she tells TL that she was handcuffed and Melich doesn’t approve this report for3 months. Hmmm. It closes with, “See original report for further details”
Submitted on 2011/02/20 at 10:28 pm
Page 290, part of Officer Eberlin’s report states that it was Cpl Renden Fletcher that took her to Sawgrass, not Aceveido. Hmmm
Submitted on 2011/02/20 at 10:43 pm
I have lots of questions myself Zuben. It’s hard for me to focus on just one area. There are little things bugging me that I can’t quite put my finger on. One that puzzles me, in addition to what you are posting now, is who taught Caylee how to count in Spanish? If she was such a neglected child as some like to say (which I absolutely disagree with), then who took the time to teach her? So she was neglected in every other area of her development supposedly, but the one thing the family did was teach her Spanish? That makes no sense.
I’m very random in case you can’t tell.
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Something about the Acevedio name is bugging me too. I’m thinking I looked around a bit a while back, and something about it struck me. Maybe her maiden name? I don’t know. I don’t know why and I didn’t save what I searched for. I’m thinking maybe connected to Morales?
Submitted on 2011/02/20 at 11:07 pm
hi Sparkle, nice to see you again.
Back in Aug 08, I found most of the same that Dom Casey found. There is a ZG whose sister Samantha Gonzales married Pedro Carlos Ortiz on June 02, 2008. I was curious about the date too because I recall Casey said she went to a wedding around this time. I can’t find the article at this moment that read Jesus Ortiz had a brother named Pedro. Interesting enough since I recall the name Jesus Ortiz was the guy who died in a car crash in May of 2007 and was once rumored that he could be Caylee’s bio-dad.
I found the newspaper article about his tragic death. In the article there’s a comment from one of Ortiz’s friends, “Stephanie Kostakis” saying he was one of the best people she ever knew. It just so happens that Stephanie Kostakis is on KC’s visitor list. She didn’t’ actually visit her, but she’s on her list. I believe she’s listed on the witness doc as one of Casey’s best friends.
http://media.www.centralfloridafuture.com/media/storage/paper174/news/2007/05/21/News/Ucf-Student.Dies.In.Tragic.Car.Crash-2905719.shtml
above is link to Jesus Ortiz’s tragic car crash
below is the visitor log for Casey Anthony:
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_visitation_log.pdf
So here’s a possible connection to Samantha Gonzalez. IIRC, Casey said ZG had a sister named Samantha.
Zuben said:
Zuben, are you referring to the female officer that was standing near Cindy in the garage when she was digging thru one of Casey’s bags? Was this when Cindy found a drivers license or state ID? If so, I think the first name on the ID was Amanda.
Yes, JB. The only female officer name I’ve seen so far for June 15 is Adrianna Acevedo. Where did you get the idea that the ID in the wallet said Amanda? I haven’t heard anything about what that item was for sure or any name on it.
Zub,
I’ll have to go back to look. I believe it was on video or audio because I remember seeing Cindy in the garage talking to someone.. I’m not sure if it was an LEO.
But the ID was mentioned again in one of CA’s interviews. I believe she said Amanda. I’m sorry but CA’s interviews make me dizzy. It’s not her fault, she’s just a high strung person..
If I find it, I’ll post it here.
PS: thank you kindly, for moving my posts here. It makes things much more organized.
I don’t believe I ever looked at the clerk site until after Casey had been charged with murder. I just looked at the prior charge case and see that they were using the words sex crime, at that point. See http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6194214 Also notice, that at that time, who ever was typing the entries wrote in the same form as I quoted above, all caps for the detail of what the entry is. Not really that important but thought I’d mention it anyway. What I found more intersting on this page though, is that someone is still entering things on this case, now closed. Financial transactions went on until 12/22/09 and these listings appear after it was changed to Murder 1:
04/09/2009 Motion
MOTION FOR APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
04/20/2009 Objection
OBJECTION TO MOTION FOR APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
04/20/2009 Motion for Protective Order
05/05/2010 Response
Orange County’s; to Defendant’s Motion to Seal
10/01/2010 Motion
to Determine Reasonable Budge for Due Process Costs in a Capital Case and Motion to Incur Certain Specified Costs
11/30/2010 Notice of Hearing
Per Phone Call – Secretary Not Sure if This is Correct Case Number. Will Check With Attorney Finnell
Here are the original charges:
Charges: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
Statute
Level
Date
1. CR-NEGLECT OF A CHILD 827.03(3)(C) Third Degree – Felony 07/09/2008
2. FALSE REPORT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES 837.05(1) First Degree – Misd 07/09/2008
3. FALSE REPORTS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTH. 837.05 First Degree – Misd 07/09/2008
Notice they added two more counts of false info to LE for good measure. Hmmm Since she never spoke another word to them other than in the car on Oct 14, what did she say that they could add these additional charges?
Zuben, I thought she was originally charged with False Reporting to the Police when she was originally taken into custody. Was she not?
There is only one entry above that didn’t find its way over to the murder case file that should have:
05/05/2010 Response
Orange County’s; to Defendant’s Motion to Seal
This is the related document http://www.docstoc.com/docs/38734655/05102010-Orange-County-Jail-Response-To-Defense-Motion-To-Seal It is the jail’s objection to the defense wanting her visitor logs sealed from public view.
TS
“Zuben, I thought she was originally charged with False Reporting to the Police when she was originally taken into custody. Was she not?”
Hi, I’mnot Zub, but I’ll have go
Yes, she was originally charged with False Reporting , Zub was showing that they slapped a couple more counts on her after the fact.
Thanks Indygal. Yes, Thorazine, you and Indy are both correct. They added 2 more at the time of the murder arrest so since she hadn’t spoken to them, other than that day in their car and back at the station, which we’ve seen and heard through their recordings there must have been something in those recordings to justify 2 more lie charges. So, what 2 statements did she make that justify these?
Zuben, have not read all your posts..but droppin in for a second..I will be returning home
this evening. I will look at my printed phone records and see if I have what you needed.
BBL
Thanks, Snoop. I had nearly finished a list of what I have, complete with page number but had a sudden lightening strike and and lost it. But basically, I have all of the tower records, none of the billing records other than 2 pages that were included in one doc dump and only June 17 of Tony L’s records. Have a safe trip home.
Zuben after looking through my printed calls..I too only have 6/17 for TL! I have KC 6/ 15th-6/20th billing..And the house phone CA..6/15-7/4. I also have the tower records printed.
But I will look now in my saved docs on the computer.
Zuben,
My take on this is that the first 2 charges were for what they could prove were lies at the time such as she worked at Universal. Then the second two charges would be what they had investigated and found to be false such as she left Caylee with the babysitter. I would expect they would have had to investigate this fully before laying those charges. Hope this makes sense.
Thanks, Snoop. It looks like you may have just what I have. The other docs I have only have a couple of days of the billing records and part of the call to destination or voice records. The latter should have been 12 pages but it only had 1-5 and 11-12, the last two being the call information.
Monica, thanks to you also. I don’t believe the last two charges could be leaving her child at Sawgrass because they had already been there, done that by June 16 when they arrested her. The initial charges would have been lying about working at universal and leaving Caylee at apt. 210 at Sawgrass with Zenaida, I believe. One of the 2 new ones may stem from her phone records, perhaps the part where she said she went to places where Zenaida was known to go before going to Tony’s. It looks like she went straight from the home area to TL’s looking at the phone pings.Oh, maybe the other was saying Caylee called her around noon on July 15.
Here’s part of the interrogation from Universal Studios with Sgt Allen, Corp. Melich and Casey. I think had Sgt. Allen not interrupted Casey may have said more. This is on page 5 of 67.
I noticed during most of this interrogation Sgt. Allen is doing most of the talking.