Long ago, I had a theory which I was afraid to post on the world wide web in fear of repercussion. Now I’m learning the no-holds-barred of the trade and I’m going to state clearly that this article is nothing more than speculation and the information I will refer to has been previously discussed on other sites and are in public records.
My interest is in this Gonzalez family who lived at 8718 Brackenwood Dr, Orlando, FL.
Parcel Id 13-23-30-1290-00-450
Location 8718 BRACKENWOOD DR
Municipality UNINC ORG CNTY, FLORIDA
Millage Rate 16.4233 details
Property Use 0101
Owner Information
Owner Name(s): GONZALEZ HERNAN
GONZALEZ ELSA I
Mailing Address: 8718 BRACKENWOOD DR
ORLANDO, FL 32829
OWNER AND DEED TRANSFERS FOR BRACKENWOOD DR.
1.First owner was Davis
2.sold to a single man by the name of Loda R. Moore, married to Lisa, who has power of atty over Loda. Docs on Loda R. Moore are found on the Orange County Site. He is stated to be part of US Military within his/wife/power of atty documents. He’s all over the internet so I’m thinking he must have been highly ranked. There’s many articles of his military career. Not a common name..Loda R. Moore.
3.Lisa Moore sells house to Noemi Gonzalez 11/90
4.Noemi sold the house to Hernan L. Gonzales/Elsa I. Gonzales (Elsa also has another middle initial Elsa A. Gonzalez.
5.Arnaldo Gonzalez-painter/misc has tax returns to that address up till 2004′ He born in 1986. Is this him?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Arnaldo-J-Gonzalez/721079498
Considering Arnaldo Gonzalez’s and Casey are the same approx. age and the fact that he and his family lived in this house since 1990, I would assume that they were most likely school mates. I have to wonder if Casey knows him.
So “Where’s Waldo” ?? ( couldn’t resist )
The business Tax records show An Arnoldo Gonzales as a contractor, misc/ painting:
Last application 2004. Tax record #1816-582951 at 8718 brackenwood dr.
1816 1816-582951 GONZALEZ ARNALDO GONZALEZ ARNALDO 9/24/2004
8718 BRACKENWOOD DR
ORLANDO FL 32829
MISC CONTR/PAINTING
( Caylee was born August 9, 2005) just a thought…
The flatbed truck named “zanny”?
Arnaldo Gonzalez owned a truck registered to Ponce Waste Service Inc. The name on the truck (nick named zanny) is Ponce Waste Service Inc. The phone numebr on it is out of service as I would expect. After checking out the business name, I”m almost sure the company originated in Puerto Rico. This division hauled junk and does hazardouse waste (Freon Evauacions?) I found where Ponce Waste was sued for breach of contract in 2004. Is this why Arnaldo is MIA, missing in action? Did the entire family flee to Puerto Rico?
Focusing on this house, I also came across two women associated with this address. One DOB = 05-07-1978, the other is DOB = 10-19-1986. Again, I find a female (no name) but close to Casey’s age.
The only things so far is on Mr. Hernan L. Gonzales, his name came up on a Federal site. This Hernan l. Gonzales has an alias and has been banned from entering the US in for Drug trafficking. Info here:
http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/financial/2004/fil6504a.html
U.S. Treasury – Recent OFAC Actions: 06/01/2004
ZEVALLOS GONZALES, Fernando Melciades (a.k.a. GONZALES, Hernan; a.k.a. ZEVALLOS In addition, all property and interests in property that are owned or controlled by the following and that are in, or come within, the United States (“U.S.”) or that are in, or come within, the possession or control of any U.S. person, including a foreign branch, have been blocked pending further investigation pursuant to the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Sanctions Regulations, 31 C.F.R. Part 598, and the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act, Pub.L. 106-120, title 8, 113 Stat. 1606, 1626-1636 (codified at 21 U.S.C. 1901-1908, 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2)(C). Although they are not now SDNTKs, their names have been integrated into OFAC’s SDN list with the descriptor “[BPI-SDNTK]” to indicate that their property and interests in property are currently blocked:
One of his aliases is Fernando Melciades. So now we have Hernan-dez and Fernan-dez. Also: ZEVALLOS GONZALES.
Whether or not Casey went to this house or not, whether there’s a fence separating this property from the school, across the street from the burial site, is not the issue. For whatever reason Dominick Casey was curious enough to take a look and so was Kathi Belich. After searching around on different sites and reading the comments, it seems there was once a new bicycle parked outside of the house in 2008 and fresh garbage bags with red ties outside. This could be an indication of some activity happening around the time Caylee went missing. And then there’s the flatbed truck named “Zanny” said to be parked there at some time along with a boat and several Pepsi machines. The rumors were rampant but along with them I found a few curious facts along the way. This house is also in close proximity to Lee Anthony’s house, so maybe Casey did visit there once or twice. Just a thought…
http://www.wftv.com/video/18477320/index.html
Here’s a link of legal analyst Bill Sheaffer who says Dom Casey staged the house search on 8718 Brackenridge Dr.
Great article JB. Back in March of last year I created a doc with info I’d on ZG possibilities, which is why I am sure they didn’t to a good job investigating the possible truth in that statement. As we have seen in discovery, one ZG even came up in the Tampa database in a case involving lewd behavior with a child under 16. I believe the only two they actually questioned are the civil court princess and one that works at BOA.
Anyway, I’ll trade ya, what you found I didn’t have for what I found not included here. Deal? Before I gather it together though, do you have any more information on that truck, color, etc? There is something about a truck in my notes.
Just a thought, but the person on Facebook is Arnaldo Gonzales Garcia. Garcia would be his mother’s maiden name, so you might do some searching for Elsa Garcia to see if they match up. Very good article!
Hi Z and SisterBlister,
Thanks for your input.
Z~Please share what you have. I also have a possible ZG connection thru Stephanie Kostaskis, said to be one of Casey’s best friends. Let’s trade..:D
SB~Thank you for your advice. Garcia is another name to check. Never thought of that
Well, I began to search through my notes to pull out some extras and ended up going on a long journey throughout the internet, leading me around the Tampa and Orlando area and now have more research to do. What would you think if someone in Tampa paid a court filing fee and used the id KACZMARE for the receipt? Sound a little like CaseyMarie? This is a civil case involving a Zenaida mentioned in the docs on pg. 3844-5. It is possible this person is claiming to be a teacher and now living in Kissimmee based on her facebook profile but has no license to teach in Florida. She was listed on the faculty in 2007 in an elementary school, not Hidden Oaks though. The trail seems to stop there as far as teaching, that I can find. More than one property comes up through another name listed on that civil case. I wonder if it is a case of landlords taking rent and defaulting on the mortgage.
I’m seeing a lot of name variations. For example, Hillsborough has Zenaida also as Zeneida N, and there are quite a few cases for ZG too. I even saw a probate case that looks like she died. But it is common to take names of deceased people, isn’t it? ZN had a baby with the man listed on the default cases. There is a support order on him and her daughter has his last name so I know I have the right facebook page.
The Z Gonzalez N mentioned by Tampa police, filed a complaint for harassing phone calls in 2001 and was involved in an allegation of lewd and lascivious with child under 16 in 2004.It says they sent OSCO the incident reports but I don’t think Ive seen them. Have you?
A few interesting names come up on this trail, Antoinette Marie E** born in 86 just like Casey, Jose F ***, Isabella, J Cruz, (at people search, this tampa resident has both 73 and 85 listed as birth year but died in 98. ZN also uses the alias Nazario B Bond and Nazario Ba Bond. Hmmm, maybe she owns her own bail bond company.
ok, the reason I asked about the truck is that the ZG getting the ticket had the plate for a Maroon 97 Ford on a 1995 Chevy Green Utility Vehicle. That sounds like a truck doesn’t it? I think it is possible you are on to something here. It sounds like Casey left regularly for work, at least according to George and her text messages. I think there was some place close by that would keep her phone pinging off from the same towers. That house would be one possibility.
I’ll skim through and see what else you might not have. I think I have Victor F somewhere.
KACZMARE? Whoa..very strange. And this is a civil case involving Zenaida? You mean, the ZG who is suing Casey now? hmm..
Are you thinking ZN = Zenaida Nazario? And I see you are also thinking BA bond company. Sounds right.
When you mentioned green SUV or truck, do you remember Brian Burner saying he saw a green truck in the driveway around June 17th?
And YES, I think Casey was hanging around close to the house. She had to be doing something and the pings say she was close.
As for the Gonzalez’s who lived in the house, what if Arnaldo did sneak back in the country? Was he the one she was hanging with @ the house. I found somewhere on WS there was a new bbq pitt and bicycle on the property when Dom Casey was filming.
I’ve got more in my notes too. bbl
I’m not if you want to check this information out, but I find this interesting enough that we might just want to take a peak at this again. As I was reading the dump doc, Part 1, page 29, I nearly choked when I saw a picture of this Zenaida Gonzalez. It seems CA and DC were doing their research as well. Back in Aug 08, I found most of the same. There is a ZG whose sister Samantha Gonzales who married Pedro Carlos Ortiz on June 02, 2008. IIRC they were married in Tampa. note* the date.
Interesting enough since I recall the name Jesus Ortiz was the guy who died in a car crash in May of 2007, so there’s the connection. I found the newspaper article about his tragic death. In the article there’s a comment from one of Ortiz’s friends, Stephanie Kostakis saying he was one of the best people she ever knew.
It just so happens that Stephanie Kostakis is on KC’s visitor list. She didn’t’ actually visit her, but she’s on her list.
http://media.www.centralfloridafuture.com/media/storage/paper174/news/2007/05/21/News/Ucf-Student.Dies.In.Tragic.Car.Crash-2905719.shtml
above is link to Jesus Ortiz’s tragic car crash
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I think the cell phone pings, numerous text messages in the early morning hours of the day, this points to a person who isn’t lazy. She’s busy. There’s a reason she gets up in the morning, I think she IS going to work.
Good morning. The green truck was what the young ZG was driving that got a ticket for driving without a valid license in Ococee on May 24, 08. She is the one that so many wanted to think was Casey in disguise. It is a very interesting case because she couldn’t put a legal plate on the car she was driving and apparently couldn’t get a license either but yet she had councel present for this hearing and the attorney isn’t listed on the court website. She pleaded no contest, paid some (last payment 8/18/08) but then defaulted on the collections schedule. She hasn’t been back there since. I would guess she is an illegal.
KACZMARE shows on the Hillsborough clerk site for a case involving Z Nazario, the name mentioned in the docs. I couldn’t see all the parties and entries until I clicked the “all parties” button on the page though. This particular case involved a civil action to the parties owning a house, default mortgage. She did live in Orlando too and her name was Gonzales before Nazario. She is also listed with the hypyenated name in two cases. She lived in Orlando, fled from Perez with her two children, one named Yasmine (yes the same name spelled with a J seen on the Sawgrass document). There was a nasty custody battle, she tried to claim violence against her, the judge didn’t buy it. He sued for custody, the daughter (I believe 10 at the time) had a case involving domestic sexual violence. Now, I know I had a tab open for a case with ZG or ZN open that showed lewd and lacivious but I must have closed that tab (I must have had 50 open) and couldn’t find it again. So I still need to track that back down. I will say that in my journey yesterday I never found that the civil suit ZG has any right to use the name Fernandez. What I am confused about is what seems to be a 2nd Z Nazario, living in Kissimmee that is listed on facebook with children having different names and being a teacher I can’t track a license for. I don’t think these are the same person, just using a diff. pic and children’s names. But if she is a teacher there should be documented evidence of that with the state of Florida. If makes me wonder if we have an impostor posting a fake vocation, borrowed from someone that left state. One thing that makes me wonder this is that her (step)son’s profile has a pic of young boys but he says he’s in a relationship with someone much older. I did some work for a client that met a scammer on line that had a fake address, profile pic, etc. Now, his girlfriend lists she went to Henry Abbott high school and Hartford University. Guess where that is at? Connecticut. Sound familiar as the home of the anonymous donor to the defense? This Zenaida also has a lot of New York connections.
You can find Hernan and Arnaldo, if they are the same ones, here:http://www.hcpafl.org/CamaDisplay.aspx?OutputMode=Display&SearchType=RealEstate&ParcelID=20270721U000001000240U Illegals will move a lot and use a lot of different names, if necessary. If he had a legal plate on the truck, maybe he isn’t an illegal. But I googled the name of the waste company and it is based in Houston. Can you tell me where you found out about the truck and it being nicknamed zanny?
Here is another link you might want: https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order?thisPage=MyFloridaCounty.ORI.Order.state.Start You can get a list of all legal documents in the state for any person.
I’ve watched Hoover’s video more than once and didn’t see a we pit. You’ll read lots there that is just wishful thinking and opinion. It’s best to just look for yourself. ZG comes up in properties too. While I was doing reasearch long ago I found several properties that her name came up on and it made me think this person was a land lord. Right now I’m seeing only 2 her for Orange Co.: http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_parcel_by_owner But when I looked for an address for one of the ZG, I came up with 422 Regal Downs Circle in Winter Garden which is owned by people from NY. Gloria Gonzales is quite the land owner too. Take a look. Oh, and Victor? How about one with connections to Florida and NY that is a photographer. http://victorfernandez.org/ address omitted here, cell 407-467-**** (Orlando area code) email ******33@nyc,rr.com. When I looked through his pictures there was one I wondered if could be Gloria. I rotated it and think it looks a lot like a younger version of this facebook ZN, comparing to a photo of her with her dad. But, her wall is visible and looking though the comments it really looks like she is a teacher. I wonder if the school I found her name listed in the past and others might be able to hire non licensed staff.I’m not posting her full name here or her facebook address because I don’t want her to turn it private. Now, I just found out I had the wrong school. It’s another with the same name. It is part of the Oceola school district. I will send you the links via email, if you’d like. She is pictured on the staff photo page. So, I went to the license site again in case I spelled wrong and she still doesn’t show up. I tried the woman pictured next to her and she does show up with a valid license. So I got crazy and just started putting in other names. Bingo! I entered Gloria G and many show up. G Esther G is the only one listed nearby but it is Orange county not Oceola where this school is. Is it possible Gloria is using the name Zenaida? Someone there really needs to check this out. I really don’t want this person’s info plasterd here because she be an innocent bystander. Her comments and photos show a solid family, having just celebrated her 14th wedding anniversary. Then when I try to find her marriage license to him in either county I can’t find it. Her husband’s name shows marrying someone else recently, 1/11/08 in Orange county. But, it is so obvious to me that LE didn’t even bother for a minute to take Casey serious. They didn’t do a single search for Gloria Gonzalez, did they? Look how easy I found these people.
I agree Casey was doing something to make money. She clearly didn’t steal enough to cover her phone bill, let alone gas and the times she treated her friends. Something happened that put a sudden stop to her money flow, leading to running out of gas and stealing from Amy a couple of weeks later. I would say the income stopped about the same time Caylee went missing.
good work Z,
I agree it’s a good idea not to plaster any personal info on this ZG. This has always been my concern but I have to admit Gloria is the name that consistently surfaces.
I’ll be back when I have time to google search too.
Thanks for your work,
as always,
jb
JB, I tried to pull up the court case on the foreclosure to get some dates as to when this house may have been empty. The case was filed 11/21/07. It originally had John and Jane Doe listed as defendants also but that was removed 8/15/08. All four summons were returned unserved in Jan 08 so they must not have lived there. I suspect the house was already vacant. They must not have found the couple because the bank was told they had to show proof they published the notice so they could proceed. The hearing was 12/08/08, 4/10/09 letter to publish sale as 5/1/09.
Now, what is interesting is that Florida records shows Hernan L (same middle initial as the foreclosure)obtaining a marriage license with S***ia ok Renta in March 2007 so he was probably with her but there is no record of a divorce from Elsa. Her relative is Son ok R****. She does have a myspace to. The name above her pic is Pecas, “freckles”. She’s 30. US search also has her as Gonzales too. Maybe he got a divorce out of state or country?
Arnaldo has a string of driving on a suspended or revoked license cases so he must of had one at one time. I wonder if the parents moved out and he lived there for a while. There were two Does in the foreclosure case that were later dropped, August of 08. That could be the other ones you found. The last entry for Arnaldo in OC clerk records is 5/13/08 so he had to still be around then, just before Caylee went missing. March of 09 a foreclosure was filed against him so that leads me to believe he wasn’t living on Brackenwood. It says he was also known as Gonzale. That was in the Hunter’s Creek community. There was another name on the deed too.
Ponce Waste is an inactive business but don’t find his name connected to it. There is a long list of businesses in this name, many from Miami and inactive. Where are you finding tax records? I am finding a Fernandez connection though. There was a child support order against him by a 27 year old G*** M Fernandez. So, there is a Fernandez-Gonzalez connection to this address. The Gonzalezes were already living there when the got the deed in 10/02 so they must have rented, then bought it. Perhaps when Mr G remarried, Elsa and Arnaldo stayed there then left when payments couldn’t be made. The support order was filed in March of 02 so this was the same year they took over the mortgage. There is now a contempt order on him, as of 12/09. I believe the girl’s middle name is Marie.
unless he used fake ID to get a license that was later revoked or suspended. I also see all their names on various properties. So I think they’re still around. Some of them are likely someone else with the same name but not all.
Thank you Z, I’m off for the rest of the day, so I’m back on the hunt..LOL
I’ll E you later. I hope you read the E I sent you last night. Old news, I’m sure. At the time when this was released, I was bundled up in personal issues so it’s new to me..lol
bbl,
jb
Here is some info on Gloria, while we on the subject of the many Gonzalezes. LE checked out a couple Zenaidas but not all for sure. G Gonzalez is a huge property owner and did have a connection to the address Casey showed them, 5550 E. Michigan, unit 3310. See: http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewDoc.jsp?exnode=20080189164 She owned it until April Fool’s day, 2008 when it was foreclosed. How ironic. It is now owned by someone with a name She bought it in September of 05 so clearly could have lived there or had her daughter living there. If I can find enough to shed doubt on everything being a complete lie it deserved to at least been checked out, which they didn’t. All they did is ask a neighbor, do you know a Gloria Gonzalez? I don’t know most of the current ones let alone former neighbors. It looks to me like Gloria is a real estate speculator or land lord. She owns 24 properties in OC and 7 in Hillsorough county. I haven’t looked yet in the other neighboring counties. So on this hunch, I just went to the Florida license site and hit gold again. Well, maybe silver. Hopefully its stainless.
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/wl11.asp?mode=2&search=Name&SID=&brd=&typ=
Real Estate Broker or Sales GONZALEZ,GLORIA Primary SL3210193
Sales Associate Null and Void,03/31/2010
Main Address*: 504 KISSIMMEE OAK COURT 8 KISSIMMEE, FL 34741
Now, why might that be? Ok, how about this possibility.
Real Estate Broker or Sales GONZALEZ,GLORIA Primary SL3120390
Sales Associate Current, Active 03/31/2011
Main Address*: 7257 COOPER DR UNIT B TACOMA, WA 98433
Same name, same expiration day and month, looks like she let the Kissimmee address expire and moved, keeping the Florida license so she can continue to do business here, probably having someone else show properties for her. Hmmm
Residential Appraisal Instructor GONZALEZ, GLORIA Primary Application Expired
Main Address*: 7257 COOPER DR UNIT B TACOMA, WA 98433
Same address. Must be she didn’t think she could teach appraisal long distance??? Or perhaps the heat is just too much if she travels for business. Morgan or Mitnik mught just track her down to ask if she knows his ZG or worse.
While I’m on the subject of people LE didn’t bother to track down, I find Jeffrey M Hopkins in court records in Florida. They pretended that Jeffrey Dale was the only one and stopped there. Middle names are important sometimes. Feb. 9, 07 he signed an agreement with Capitol One you can see here: http://www.leeclerk.org/OR/showdetails.aspx?id=6170536&rn=1&pi=0&ref=search. Here: http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/preview/peoplesearch.do?searchMode=search&searchCallMode=direct&searchLName=Hopkins&searchState=FL&searchCity=Hialeah&searchFName=Jeffrey&adID=158-0000000020&adsource=158&TID=5&searchtab=home you can see a 26 year old J M H who lived in 2 cities in Florida, one just up the road a few miles. If this isn’t him, that doesn’t mean anything either. Not everyone at that age shows up on public docs or searches. I didn’t find a relative Zachary but how many toddlers show up in Intellius or the other search engines? Probably none. Until someone checks these people out better I have reasonable doubt that everything she said was a lie. Some of it could be the truth. But, if she did tell JH what was going on I can’t imagine why he hasn’t come forward. The only reasonable explanation I can come up with is that he was scared to.
JB, that address is Fort Lewis Military Reserve. What the h*ll?
What? What’s with a military address?
btw, I found an Arnaldo too in Texas associated with Ponce Waste Service. Whats wrong with this picture is most Gonzalez’s in TX are from Mexico. As in Florida they could be PR. Although Peru has surfaced too..whoa..LOL
That would be a bombshell. Caylee’s reward provider is into the airplane biz and so is Zevallos aka “Al Capone of Peru” aka Hernan Gonzales. hmm. WTH?
That makes me uncomfortable…lol
Yesterday’s research left me with a splitting headache that followed me into a new day. I don’t do headaches.
One other little piece of information I found last year involved trying to track down Caylee’s doctor, Sandra Silva. There is no doctor or physician’s assistant, even an RN licensed to practice in the Orlando area. We know she took Caylee to the doctor the one time she got sick, through her text messages and there was a prescription for her taken in the search warrant. There was a phone number in her phone memory for her but the number is a cell, not a business land line. I tried different versions of the name and was able to pull up Sandra Da Silva, an RN but she is too far away, Royal Palm Beach, and isn’t registered for any other location. There is also a Sandra Silva that is a dentist in the Miami area.
While searching I ran across one quite prominent doctor from out of country that has written articles about a condition involving premature fusing of the plates of the skull. Caylee’s autopsy report mentions early signs of premature sagittal suture fusion. But I can’t imagine it was advanced enough to be a physical deformity that Casey would have noticed and sought medical attention for, seeing pictures of her beautiful head. The condition is called craniosyntosos. You can see in this wiki article she is the first reference sited. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniosynostosis Could the condition mentioned by Dr G have anything to do with why Cindy might have thought this wasn’t Caylee’s skull? If it was just beginning then it wouldn’t be noticable through the hair but this is usually present at birth and causes problems with learning, etc. The brain gets squished. They say in the docs there were to xrays in her medical records so I would assume they did visit her doctor’s office. But why haven’t they added this name to her list of lies in their reports?
I also found an illegal that should have been deported. She lived in Ca and took classes to get her ged, I believe because I found a paper written by her. Here is the Federal court case: http://www.justice.gov/eoir/vll/intdec/vol24/3570.pdf This person may not have anything to do with this case but thought I’d mention it because her name is Sandra Patricial Gonzalez-Silva.
I decided to look for the name in the business license site and, guess what? Another realtor. And this realtor just happens to be a neighbor, middle name Anne, 8711 Grandee. That could be where she went sometimes, close to home and/or another possibility of who was to show her the home she mentioned in her texts to Amy. One of the owners is Rosa S, the other begins with Anne. They bought it in 88. Rosa is a married woman, Anne single and they have rights of survivorship. But what is also interesting on the license search page is that there is a Sandra P Da S**** with a realtor license, address in MA. So we have a Gloria, mail sent to a military base, and a Silva, mail sent to MA. Could the middle initial P stand for Patricia and this be the same illegal that was deported? I’m not sure how I found her class paper and if you can’t find it I can copy and paste it here. She starts out writing about someone other than her entering the county illegally and ends with a statement that it is a story of her coming to CA so this is likely how she got busted. The dates are very close, 2/07 and 6/07 for the deportation case. I don’t believe the neighbor and this person could be the same though. If anything the person was deported from California and snuck back in and went to Florida. And I highly doubt she thought the neighbor was a doctor. But, didn’t Casey mention the name Rosa? It was the last name of a friend she said introduced her to Zenaida. Could Rosa be the first name instead of the last name with Jennifer added on for another reason?
SS is a popular name there though. There is a CPS also in town but different address. Still no doctor though. Now, I don’t doubt that Casey told a lot of lies. But why would she lie about her daughter’s doctor? The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that she is so split from reality she isn’t capable of telling the truth or else she was trying to give them clues with her lies. If the first were the case the defense would be going for the insanity plea, which they aren’t. I wish I could see her whole firefox history. While we have seen a summary report from John Bradley, beginning on pg 12477 of the docs, they haven’t shown us his full report which shows over 8000 firefox items. That is what I want to see.
Search FL business licenses: https://www.myfloridalicense.com/wl11.asp?mode=2&search=Name&SID=&brd=&typ=
Search FL medical licenses: http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASLIST.ASP
I like this layout better, easier to read. Can you also include latest comments on the side? ok, time for me to get to work.
Wow, very interesting stuff. I’m amazed by the information you have found yet nothing from LE. It seems like the investigation was limited to findind Casey guilty. Such a shame. Anyway, I’m still reading from your links. You are a natural born investigator, no doubt.
I’m impressed..lol
And no problem, I just reset my theme (again) I like this one better. I just added recent comments. I hope this helps.
Thank you Z~
Z~
Everything you’ve posted checks out. LOL, just had to let you know. Makes me go “hmmm”
Thanks. I guess I probably would make a pretty good investigator. I wish I had access to more resources. It is very hard to determine if a certain group of names is the same person, without birth dates or middle names, etc. I think there are possibly 3 or 4 Glorias in Orange co. There are also a couple G Fernandez too. Have one of them also used the name Gonzalez? I don’t know but one has the same middle initial and it isn’t C. Sorry Mr Morgan. So we need to be careful not to jump to conclusions. But one thing I’m sure of, many of the people named do exist, just not quite in the form Casey said. One of these days maybe I can find the time to see what New York has to offer.
Z,
I went to the site you provided. I found quite a few ZG’s there. 34 docs, 96 parties. I found one with Jas*** too and a last name. I’m sure you caught those.
Anyway, Good night and good luck
Yes, and that is just for Orange county. There are so many entries for Florida docs they couldn’t fit it on one page so we need to narrow it by county to see them all. The civil suit ZG fled to Hillsborough in the custody battle so you need to enter that county to find that and anything else done there. The Jasmin I was referring to before, spelled with a Y was last name Perez. There is another spelled with a J and different last name. About the middle of the Orange Co listing I believe we see the other child listed on the Sawgrass card, spelled Mychelle, different last name. This is also a custody and paternity issue. More detail would be seen at the OC clerk site. http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=951360 is a domestic violence with children involved case and shows both the daughters names together. This is the order denying an injunction against the father and transferring it because she fled to Tampa. This is the civil case ZG for sure unless she stole a different ZGs children’s names. Her middle or hyphenated name is OBO.
Hillsborough is overloaded with entries for ZG so I had to narrow down by doc type to see everything. I’d really like to know who this ZG is: http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.doc?pcSearchMode=NS&pnPidm=1212167&pcCaseId=97-CA-002506&pnCnt=1&pcCourtType=% The name Fernandez is shown but it is a doctor. She is suing home depot for a spine injury, apparently. The last entries are dismiss with prejudice and summons issued, Alias X1. I wonder what that means. She lost the case. Fernandez must not be this ZG’s lucky name. This page http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.doc?pcSearchMode=NS&pnPidm=1877148&pcCaseId=97-DR-013031&pnCnt=1&pcCourtType=% shows TEMPORARY INJUNCTION RET’D SERVED——- 10/24/97 ZENAIDA GONZALEXSZ. So, does XS mean sometimes she signs Gonzale and sometimes Gonzalez? That would fit the Alias entry on the other case. This is another domestic violence. She is the defendant. Plantiff last name, Alfonso. Again, I don’t know if this is the civil suit ZG but if this person sometimes uses Gonzale, it may be. This case is 1997. There is more but I just got sidetracked with another accidental discovery, coming in next post. This is awful, I have work I should be doing.
She one-sue-happy lady, huh? I guess Mitnik didn’t have to press too hard for ZG to sue Casey.
To me, it’s inexcusable to proceed with the civil trial first. Reminds of the set up at the jail and this is more of the same. The sad thing is I can see for myself, thanks to you, that LE didn’t check out all of the Zenaida G’s. They are NUMEROUS!
Thanks for bringing this to my blog Z.
Strange myspace: Z seen that also with the Gonzal exsz when I was in the Tampa records.
Tried to pull up a myspace that way ..nothing. So just did an s instead of z. Came accross this.http://www.myspace.com/zzzzenaida check out the friends http://www.myspace.com/210_anthony45 that is private.
However http://s1005.photobucket.com/albums/af175/joka92/?action=view¤t=010.jpg( That is the younger boy joka92)
Joka92 myspace is :http://www.myspace.com/joka92ammic
Look at the friends*
You’re quite welcome. I agree completely about the civil suit. If she did have a right to sue (I don’t see that she did since Casey said on day one she wasn’t who she was talking about) she has no right to interfere in the defense of the murder charge which is clearly more important that this civil suit. I’ve never even read one person on the internet thinking, even early on, that this ZG had anything to do with Caylee. The media hardly gave her notice, as far as asking for interviews so it isn’t as if the media was stalking her and causing a potential employer grief. In fact, I don’t think the media has done their job as far as confirming or denying that she actually had a job to loos and lost it because of this case. I don’t believe it happened at this point.
I’m still trying to put some things together that involve the mysterious Zenaida, Dora myspace owner. Would you like me to post it in this thread when I finish? I can also share some info about the mysterious emails that LE say don’t exist. I know most of them do exist. I can share that too if you like. Oh, by the way, I like the addition of the latest comments on the side bar.
Just a comment… there is a Dr. Miguel Silva about 5 miles from the A’s. at:
Silva, Miguel A MD
7848 Lake Underhill Rd, Orlando, FL 32822
and he’s associated with Pediatric Care Group, P.A.
http://pcgpa.com/
I also found a Zandra, but I think she was a pharmacy tech.
Also, upthread, JB you mentioned:
“Whats wrong with this picture is most Gonzalez’s in TX are from Mexico. As in Florida they could be PR. Although Peru has surfaced too” …
Florida has a large Mexican population (migrant workers); and don’t forget Cubans. However, if there is some association with the military, most likely it would be PR or Cuban. Cultures such as Mexican or Peruvian don’t usually have any association with U.S. military.
Right, I get that. Maybe when she hears these names, she’s mistaken them to be sister, daughter, aunt, whatever. The names are there, just the family relationship is wrong. Am I understanding this right?
Thanks Sister Blister,
I have friends in Houston and have been there often, Florida? Not as often as I would like. I assumed Floridian Hispanics would mostly come from the Carribean, not Mexico.
Thank you for the clarification.
Yes, I saw Dr Miguel but I’ve found nothing to make be believe he has Sandra working there. If she does she isn’t licensed as a nurse or a doctor which causes me concern. I would think the state of Florida would keep their license database current and complete but its possible they don’t. But the number in her cell memory for S Silva was a cell number not a landline. How many doctors use cell phones instead of a land line?
Interesting. Both spaces were created on May 15, less than 2 weeks ago. It’s interesting that on the tab in my browser for 210_anthony45 shows what looks like html code: ^^ but that isn’t the way a tag would be written. It would be “tag”. Anyway, I took a look at the source code and see where he added it as a nickname. His space was created before the ZZZenaida page. Seeing anthony in his id I might think both of these may be created by the same person and trying to insert themselves into this case or just mess with bloggers. Or maybe his name is Anthony. He must not have coded the color for the type right because it doesn’t show on his black background. Here is his info.
18 /
Male
SAN ANTONE, Texas, US
Last Login: 5/28/2010
It’s interesting the Zenaida page doesn’t even added a pic but she’s been there more than once. Maybe she had one and took it down. She must not like Tom, poor guy.
Hey Z~
Please do. I’d like to read them. I can’t seem to wrap my head around the lack of interest in finding ZG by LE. Just like they didn’t find Caylee in August…and a few other snafu’s.
I’m interested…lol Post away!
JB, as a longtime lurker of many, many sites, just wanted to let you know that your research is amazing. I rarely ever comment, especially at WHN’s site. I have silently sat and watched the mess unfold and elected to stay out of it. I appreciate a place like this one, and Hinky’s, that focuses on the case at hand and not the battle of the egos that is going on.
Thank you EDRN,
It’s a good thing to keep the objectivity of this case alive, imo. That’s what I try to do here even though it’s not always popular. Hinky does a good job as well. I read there too.
I’m happy you dropped by and please add a comment any time.
Ok, forgive the length. The Work Emails
I did a search for the email addresses found beginning on pg 403 of the first released discovery. The pdf file I downloaded has the pages out of order so in this copy it would be pdf pg 291 and forward.
Frank McKeever, alias Thomas Franck. He is entry #161 in Casey’s sim memory. There are calls shown to him in July. http://www.myspace.com/august231993 comes up searching for thomas.frank@yahoo.com but there wasn’t anything with the actual address spelled franck or at event.universal.com. It is quite easy for internet scammers to create any address, even ip they want. They can also access control over a person’s phone or computer. Myspace and other sites like it are a common turf for scammers, pedophiles and other seedy characters. They usually don’t use their real photo or name either. But Frank M does seem to like the personal attention at least some of the time. The address above may not be the author of the emails, or he could be, but Frank John McKeever, alias Thomas Franck is surely the right one. Here are a couple of myspaces. http://www.myspace.com/mckeevercomedy His newest page was created last year. He’s now a rapper with over 2000 friends: http://www.myspace.com/aquanautmusic
A general myspace search for Thomas Franck brings up 2 pages of results, many of them being him.
http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.results&orig=search_Header&origpfc=UserViewProfile&type=People&qry=thomas+franck&submit=Search&searchid=d4f2d751-ee06-4293-b6d9-705df41ec028&pg=1
Here he is as Thomas Frank with short hair. http://www.myspace.com/40329331
Here is one criminal case: http://doris.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/obts-web/asp/cr_charges.asp?gin=178437
Here are some comments from angry customers: http://www.newcougar.org/forums/archive/t-123599.html and his response in 08 before his latest brush with the law. Everything you ever wanted to know about him including his parents name is there along with a possible Raquel, here named Rachel. Here are some pics of him and his girlfriend, Mandy:
http://i31.tinypic.com/25qym1x.jpg
Him on left with friend Joe
http://i26.tinypic.com/1zbf2mv.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/vin1jl.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/ff682b.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/1h7037.jpg
Here is his photobucket: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v477/fjmckeever/?start=all but he now has it password protected. There is a back door though, by c&p links into the address bar from search results:
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Comapare a pic of Thomas Franck and McKeever to see they are the same person. I wish I could post pics here.
I found the following by searching jlewis84@yahoo.com
http://www.myspace.com/58397736
created 2/24/2006, last login 3/25. It appears Juliet is really Gary or the other way around. Notice the New York home town. But, aparantly, Heather McDonald did say that a Juliette worked with her and Casey.
http://www.myspace.com/kat.h
K.hart@yahoo.com was used to create this space on 3/26/2008, last login 2/24/10. She is from Tucson, AZ. She has a lot of slide shows in her blog section and some pics are of Florida. Even though the page has been active for quite some time there are no comments before Aug. 09. I would assume she deleted them. The email from her, shown doc pg 414 is dated Dec. 07.
http://www.myspace.com/273549343 comes up through searching for mike.hamilton@yahoo.com It was created 11/2/07 and never accessed again. The emails with his name were written in April and May, 08.
http://www.myspace.com/8729014
This might be Vanessa, Lou, or one of the others listed. Notice it was created in Feb. 05, only Tom as a friend, no comments or profile pic but it was updated on 10/7/09. Perhaps she removed her pics, friends and comments? She may have even changed her location.
http://www.myspace.com/131924000
Since manny45@hotmail.com 's page is private I can't see the creation date but can determine the day by the members on either side. This is interesting because the 2 member numbers following come up with a 404 error and http://www.myspace.com/131924003 is from Winter Garden, Fl. Caleb is the name, created 11/23/06. See below.
The one just proceeding was created the same day and so was this one.
A very mature 16 year old girl named Aliya that is not to0 good at either math or typing created http://www.myspace.com/131923999 She says she is 19 under her name but then slips up between all of the f words and says she's 16.
http://www.myspace.com/131924003
A very mature 16 year old that is not to good at either math or typing created http://www.myspace.com/131923999 She says she is 19 under her name but then slips up between all of the f words and says she's 16.
We know from doc page 388 and elsewhere that Heather McDonald did work with Casey for Kodak/Colorvison. I've seen a comment on her myspace from Casey talking about just getting a Blackjack phone so that is real, I'm sure. Lee A said that Heather told him Casey did work with Juliette and there was also a Jeff that worked there as a tech guy before moving to Disney water park in 04 or 05.
Consider this possibility out of many. We know that Casey worked for Universal up until the time of the conversion when Kodak was replaced by Color Vision. What if someone who knew what was going on there, like Franck McKeever, decided to pull off a scam where he created events.universal.com and brought Casey and some others in to do some kind of work. He is obviously interested in music, as we see from his myspace and music. I wouldn't think he'd be able to pull off this scam inside of the Universal gates but perhaps he could say they were expanding to to events outside of there. Who knows, maybe he could have done something as a contractor for them or at least made people think he did. That might explain whos office Casey might have been looking for that day, in her backwards sort of way. I don't recall where I read it but somewhere it said he was also involved in rental scams. Just some thoughts, but one thing is clear. These emails are real and there are some real people involved. I haven't yet collected people search info on all of them but I'm sure there is more to be learned. If you want the full version of what I've collected with photos, I can email it to you.
JB, I thought I sent a rather large post this morning but I don’t see it so if it isn’t awaiting moderation, please let me know so I can resend.
Aww chit!, I don’t know what’s up with that, Sorry Z…I’m on it.
Wow, Thank You Z,
I’m impressed. ( in a NOT so backwards way )
I’ll be reading and checking out your links tonight. And Yes, please email me the pix too.
Interesting stuff. Thanks again.
Zenaida-Dora- Debesa myspace
http://www.myspace.com/389838213
A myspace created 6/16/08 with the name Zenaida, age same as the zg with the ticket. It looks like a joke but the pic is Dora the explorer. See http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=389838213 An aDORAble backpack that belonged to Caylee was left with her body and blanket.
It is claimed by many that Casey is the Zenaida above and set up this myspace on the day Caylee was last seen, showing premeditation. But I don’t believe this is possible. If it were, LE would have busted her long ago. It has also been said that this space was created by a 15 year old girl, which I also can’t believe. I say this partly because a young girl may post a page saying she is 23 but she wouldn’t also set up 2 other pages under the same name, especially since there is no trace of any Zenaida Debesa in Florida or elsewhere. Now, a pedophile might create these pages in order to draw in young girls but it makes no sense that a 15 year old would claim to be 23 then post Dora, a child’s character, usually much younger than 15.
The name was originally just Zenaida. 2 people put a video comment that could be seen on her blog page. On 10/14 she logged in, the date Casey was arrested for murder. On 12/19/08 she logged in and accepted a curious friend. This is the day that the cororner anounced that the body was in fact, Caylee Anthony.
I saw screen shots that show the birthdate must be set at 2/19/1985 so isnt’ the same as above but it is interesting that the account is set up to be very near Casey’s birthday with the same doll as on Caylee’s backpack, the last time George saw her. But no hint so far that LE tracked down the IP address as far as discovery shows. Someone on a blog did say they called LE and they told them the IP was from Southern Florida. If this is true, either it was created in the Miami area, supporting one piece of info that Casey gave LE or someone had remote access to a computer down there, which is possible either by setting that up on a computer somewhere else that you can have remote access to. I believe there are other ways too but I’m not a computer geek. Regardless, with the key dates of activity with this space, the name Zenaida and Dora, surely this could be considered exculpatory and LE or the SA is obligated to have tracked it down and handed it over to the defense. Could this one item be the means for a redo of Judge Perry declaring a mistrial agains Ashton?
Saving this profile and the earlier creations of that day I could find, to my favorites in myspace shows it was updated at 11:31 am PDT 6/16/2009.I determined the time zone by updating my page and saving it to favorites. Adjusted for EDT would make it 2:31 pm EDT. The account set up just before hers, ID #389838212, was updated at 11:47 am PDT or 2:47 pm EDT. I would assume adding the pic is an update so this would mean Dora was uploaded at 2:31 pm and it was created shortly before, easily while Casey was on the phone. At 1:44 pm she began a 36′ phone call she made to Amy, lasting until 2:20pm. The next phone activity is at 2:52 pm. The encase image that you can view here: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/images/CMA/Encasedesktop0616-17marked.jpg shows a lot of activity on the home computer between 1 and 3 and many believe Casey was at home during that time. But George didn’t leave for work until 2:30 or so. This site was created or updated at the time George left for work. I think she was somewhere within range of the home towers but not at home. George said she left at 12:50 pm. The heavy activity starts after that and looking at the cookies deposited that were valid during that day it looks to me like he was visiting job sites looking for his next job among other things.
zenaida
First Name: zenaida
Orientation: No Answer
Motive:
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Location: MIAMI, Florida, US
Profile Updated: 6/16/2008 11:31:00 AM
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This is the account set up just before the zenaida account: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=389838212 It has set unused just like this one.
taylor
user ID #389838212
First Name: taylor
Orientation: No Answer
Motive:
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Location: CLAY CITY, Indiana, US
Profile Updated: 6/16/2008 11:47:00 AM
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The next one before this I find with no activity, # 389838208 has no pic uploaded or activity. The update time is 11:29 am PDT or 2:29 pm EDT.
Brendan
First Name: Brendan
Orientation: No Answer
Motive:
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Location: FOX ISLAND, Washington, US
Profile Updated: 6/16/2008 11:29:00 AM
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Time zone -8 with DST so -7 converted to EDT=2:29 pm
The following are the pages created on the cusp of 6/15 and 6/16/08. Member #389715667 shows created and last login of 6/16/08, member in Mexico. Saving it to my favorites being in EDT zone, the profile was updated 6/16/08 9:01 pm PDT or 12:01 am EDT. Myspace is headquartered in Beverly Hills, CA, time zone in June is 8 hrs West with DST so -7, 3 hours different than Florida. Mexico is 7 hrs West also with DST so -6 but Laura is showing a 3 hour difference from update to creation date. Laura signed up and did the last update on 6/16 so I would assume that the profile updates shown here must be Eastern time, 3 hours later than CA so I believe the creation date is shown in the viewer’s time zone and the update is shown in the myspace time zone. Laura’s profile was really created on 6/15 in the late evening, just before midnight. She had long enough to add 1 friend.
laurizeth
First Name: laura
Orientation: No Answer
Motive:
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Location: , Jalisco, MX
Profile Updated: 6/15/2008 9:01:00 PM
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Date created and last loggod on shows 6/16 ID #389715667
The next page created, Andreas, member #389715668, created and loggen in on 6/16 but the profile update after saving it to my favorites is 6/15/08 9:30 pm PDT or 12:30 am 6/16. The same is true for Andres. The profile says he signed up and did last update on 6/16 but the time shown here is 3 hours before the 16th began. Carpentersville, IL is 6 hours west with DST so -5.
Andres
First Name: Andres
Orientation: No Answer
Motive:
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Location: CARPENTERSVILLE, Illinois, US
Profile Updated: 6/15/2008 9:30:00 PM
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Date created and logged in shows 6/16 User ID #389715668
If someone else took Caylee and created this Dora myspace they would use it to intimidate and bully Casey. If that were the case they would have to let her know it exists. I still am not sure if the phone records are adjusted for DST but I suspect they are ST. Keeping this in mind that it could be either zone, I see the following myspace alerts coming to her phone:
Myspace codes on phone records
-Friend Requests 697720
- Blog Comments 697721
- Profile Comments 697722
- Image Comments 697723
- New Messages 697724
- Event Invites 697725
11:53 am profile comment (anyone can leave a comment unless the creator sets it up differently)
1:23 pm new private message from myspace
1:35 pm profile comment
1:39 pm image comment
Now, keep in mind that all the comments from a large section of time during the crucial period have been deleted. So, we have no way of seeing what the profile and image comment were. The profile comment could easily have been a link to this new space and the image comment may have been left on an image of Caylee. If we adjust the alert times for DST the last 3 are clearly within the time frame of the creation of this page. Surely LE would consider any deleted comments and her private messages important evidence.
On Sept. 2, 09 while collecting these, I updated my profile to see how it registers. It was 10am EDT, -4 and it reads 7:00:49 so it is reading Callifornia time.
Sometime between Oct. 21 and 23, 2009 the video’s posted on the zenaida myspace are gone. On December 19, 09 she began to accept 10 curious friends.
She updated her profile to add debesa to the name on 1/10/10
Along the journey of gathering some of the above I got derailed and found myself at the civil suit ZGs myspace. I often edit my bookmarks when saving pages so it doesn’t show what her original id in the address was. I’d really like to find someone that saved her page early on. I’m sure she has changed her ID. It now shows either her member number 166182731 or her ID as gitana2332. Gitana is a Spanish gypsy. I noticed right off that the number is a palindrome and so is the last half of the name, ana, so got to wondering if the letters might be a secret code. Anne is similar to Ana and is the middle name of the Silva neighbor. But for some reason I was led to look for a cache version to see if I could find the earlier id and also recalled the January change of the Dora page when I noticed the last login of the cache page for Beba Zenaida.
Here are some links so you can follow along. Civil Suit Zenaida: http://www.myspace.com/166182731 When you get there look in your address bar. It ends with myspace.com/gitana2332. Now, here is the 5/15 cache of that page: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:voyMQNsDCG4J:www.myspace.com/gitana2332+gitana2332+myspace&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us The last login at that time had been 1/16 of this year and the English translaton for her sad mood line is “Sad as it all ends so fast”.
Now, go to the Dora Zenaida page here: http://www.myspace.com/389838213 remembering that she had just changed the name, adding Debesa. With the above state of mind where I was looking for secret code I suddenly was reminded that Dora the explora is a gypsy of sorts or a Gitana. Coincidence? Perhaps. But I didn’t stop there. I looked at all three Z Debesa myspace pages and their source code.
Keeping in mind that the above space was created on 6/15/08, the last day Caylee was seen, http://www.myspace.com/404718192 was created on 8/14/2008. I know this by looking http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=404718190 and here http://www.myspace.com/404718193 , the members on each side of her where I could get into the blog page to see sign up date. This is the day after Kronks meeting with Cain on Suburban drive and the As had visited the jail. The big news was the bond hearing was denied and they were zeroing in on the wooded area near the airport where her phone pinged on June 17. Notice the skull and crossbones pic.
http://www.myspace.com/513879148 without any pic at all, was created on Dec. 20, 2009 the day after Dr G announced that the skeleton was in fact, Caylee. It looks like the orignial Dora Zeniada space owner also accepted one or two more curious friends, according to the comments. Sometime during the last quarter of 2008 myspace changed the format so that the creation date and time are shown below the name. It was created at 2:40pm, EST I believe. These three Debesa myspaces, pictures of one of her favorite characters, of the condition her little head was found, and finally ending with no face at all when the news said the skull had her face. I know, I’m getting dramatic. But I really don’t believe in coincidences. It is as if there is a cryptic message saying Dora would be found with a child’s skull but with no face or name, a Jane Doe.
With all the common names in Florida, this name is nonexistant, except for these social network pages I’ve checked the state of Florida and Dade county records along with the people search engines like 123 people. The only result was Zaid D in Arizona. I believe Spanish besa means kiss so debesa would mean thekiss. Zenaida means “of Zeus”. So the full name would mean the kiss of Zeus.
2nd Zenaida Debesa http://www.myspace.com/404718192 last login 4/30/09, pic of skull & crossbones. This is 20 days after the state announced it would once again seek the death penalty. I didn’t find big news on that day so I looked at both case dockets. On April 23rd and 24th, attny for ZG civil suit filed motions to compel the Anthony’s to answer the questions they refused to answer at the April 9 depo. On 04/28/2009 and 29th there was an Acceptance of Service. On 04/29/2009 there was a Notice of Filing. I believe this has to do with the subpoena served on Annie Downing, accepted by Sean Daly, her roommate on May Day, also known as Beltain, 2009.
In the murder case the following was entered on the record:
04/23/2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery04/23/2009 State’s Witness List
Supplemental
04/23/2009 Notice of Hearing
Amended 05/28/2009 at 10:00 A.M.
04/24/2009 Notice of Unavailability04/27/2009 Objection
to Motion for Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum and Motion for Protective Order
Could there be someone on the state’s witness list that made someone nervous? Could the content of that hearing have triggered it? There was nothing going on with the Fraud trial at the time.
Adding to favorites, captured on May 30, 2010 shows that it was last updated on 8/14/2008
zenaida
First Name: zenaida
Orientation: No Answer
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Age: 15
Location: MIAMI, Florida, US
Profile Updated: 8/14/2008 11:05:00 AM
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Looking 2 members previous we see that this page was created on the same day as the last update, 8/14/08. This was the day Kronk took Cain to Caylee and didn’t find her. This is the day that George exploded on camera for the 2nd time that week when a certain reporter tried to cram the idea down his throat that there was an accident that is being covered up. A “source” told them this. They also discovered that 2 Pis were visiting Casey in jail. Video link:
http://www.wftv.com/video/17189172/index.html I was furious with them. The media is so rude and disrespectful.
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Part of the source code from this page. I’ve added notes where the code caught my attention. As a disclaimer, I know only some basics of html and even less about code specific to myspace. But where I saw something unusual I pulled up a group of other page html source to compare and didn’t find the same thing in any others I looked at, including mine, which is the basic default with no changes.
MySpace – http://www.myspace.com/404718192
<meta name="googlebot" It looks like the creater wanted to be seen by the search engines. This isn't standard code in myspace.
15 years old
MIAMI, Florida
United States
Last Login: 4/30/2009
The 3rd space created http://www.myspace.com/513879148 created 12/20/09, the day after the remains were officially identified. By this time mysapace had added a new feature. The date and time is shown below the status. This is stamped 12/20/09 at 2:40 pm. The day before, besides Dr. G’s statement, Kronk gave an afternoon press conference.
The partial code of this page:
Zenaida (Zenaida Debesa) | MySpace
The others have
<meta property="myspace:profileType" content="StandardUser" inserted here
[This isn't standard code. The person wants to be noticed by crawlers.]
Zenaida
http://www.myspace.com/513879148
has joined MySpace!Mood: good <img alt="good" 2:40 PM Dec 20, 2009
class=”profileFullName fn”>Zenaida Debesa
class=”age”>15 /
class=”gender”>Female id=”adr” class=”adr”> class=”country-name”>US class=”lastlogin”>Last Login: 12/20/2009
513879148|15|11000|http://x.myspacecdn.com/images/no_pic.gif
privateModule” data-mt=”1382477243″>[The 1st 9 numbers highlighted above are the ID for the page shown below, belonging to “Jesus”. I'm still trying to find out why this is inserted. None of the other html codes I've looked at have any other large number other than their own ID number. I've searched other source codes from myspace pages and only one I found had the words data-mt. The number was simply “1”]
This profile is set to private. This user must add you as a friend to see his/her profile.
The profile matching the 1st 9 numbers following the words, data-mt= above. http://www.myspace.com/138247724
MySpace – jesus – 19 – Male – – myspace.com/138247724
src=”http://x.myspacecdn.com/images/no_pic.gif” alt=”jesus” />
align=”left”>Male
19 years old
United States
Last Login: 12/12/2006
There are three possibilities I see as reasonable. 1. ll of these accounts are unrelated, other than people wishing to insert themselves into this case, one perhaps being directly involved. 2.
Two other people created the last two when they saw all the fuss certain bloggers were making over the first one. If that is the case it may be the owner of the Jesus space that created #3. But, the name Debesa is on all three and it wasn’t added to the Dora one until January of this year. The other two haven’t been touched since they were created. So this leads me to favor… 3. The person responsible for Caylee’s safe keeping on June 16 created a page to use to communicate with Casey. She felt compelled to make changes to it, triggered by key events. After Caylee is identified the person may have gotten nervous and decided to make the page more active by accepting some friend requests. But then the comments only show people have other motives than being a friend, as shown by their comments. So, the person decides to try to divert attention away from the page by adding the name Zenida, then latter creates 2 other pages with the same name, making some think that a 15 year old is having fun with bloggers by attaching a skull and crossbones. By adding the code to bring in the bots, the person would be attempting to make sure it got noticed. If people concluded that those were created as a joke, maybe they would ignore all three.
Of course, I have no way to prove this. I can’t even access the IP addresses, but LE could. If all of them appear to have come from the same person it would be very incriminating to someone other than Casey. The only way the first one could have been created by her is if someone took over for her to do the later changes. That would be easy for LE to prove. That would show clear premeditation and cover up because the page was created soon after George said she left. If it were an accident that happened that day at home it would have been later than this page was created. So she couldn’t have been trying to cover an accident. Perhaps all of this is nothing, but I think it deserves a closer look than I am prepared to do.
Again, I apologize for such a long post. It would have been 3x as long if I’d included the images.
Z~
Thank you for the pdf file. It’s a clear picture of your research. I never thought of source searching to find IP’s. You are a natural..lol
These mySpace pages are telling a story, imo. I think LE should delve more into this..maybe Casey’s defense is on this too. I’m checking this out too.
bbl
The page source doesn’t show ip addresses. I wish it did. The number I was referring to is the member number. There are some forums or message boards I’ve took a peak at, where they did show but not most these days. I just looked at the code for this page and I see your wordpress member number but nothing for me. I do see why [b][/b] did bold text for me though. I need to use strong with here. It uses the language the software I used back in 2002 required. I wondered if that was the case. I would have used some code in my posts to make them easier to wade through if I knew at that time I posted. Well, I acquired a Memorial Day memorytoday.
Have a great one
Same to you, Zee. Have a nice day and thanks for the code tip
I have some more info about the Fort Lewis Gloria, giving to me by a friend that tracked her down. She moved there from Miami. She is an absolutely beautiful woman but her children are too young to be Z. Her website: http://www.windermere.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=agentOffice.AgentDetail&agentMetauser_ID=362212 and http://gloriagonzalez.mywindermere.com/ She hardly looks old enough to have been married 18 years. Anyway, my conclusion is now for sure, there are two G Gs.
The one that lived at 5550 E. Michigan is possibly a better choice for who Casey was talking about if she was telling even a partial truth. It isn’t a retirement home though. It’s a block or so up the road from the Crossings and is called the Registry, also a gated community.
Hmm..too young to be the right GG? There’s so many G’s to begin with, and not to mention aliases. But I agree, the one on Michigan sounds probable.
Zee, I’m quoting a part of your comment. You posted this::
{The green truck was what the young ZG was driving that got a ticket for driving without a valid license in Ococee on May 24, 08.} She is the one that so many wanted to think was Casey in disguise. It is a very interesting case because she couldn’t put a legal plate on the car she was driving and apparently couldn’t get a license either but yet she had councel present for this hearing and the attorney isn’t listed on the court website. She pleaded no contest, paid some (last payment 8/18/08) but then defaulted on the collections schedule. She hasn’t been back there since. I would guess she is an illegal;
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Brian Burner said he saw a green truck parked in front of the Anthony’s on June 17 or 18. So could this mean ZG was possibly at the Anthony’s?
You can find Hernan and Arnaldo, if they are the same ones, here:http://www.hcpafl.org/CamaDisplay.aspx?OutputMode=Display&SearchType=RealEstate&ParcelID=20270721U000001000240U Illegals will move a lot and use a lot of different names, if necessary. If he had a legal plate on the truck, maybe he isn’t an illegal. But I googled the name of the waste company and it is based in Houston. Can you tell me where you found out about the truck and it being nicknamed zanny
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Zuben,
I first saw a post relating to the trunk on WS. It’s in the Brackenwood article. Also I found a Arnaldo Gonzalez in Texas associated with Ponce Waste Mgmt. too.
ZG comes up in properties too. While I was doing reasearch long ago I found several properties that her name came up on and it made me think this person was a land lord. Right now I’m seeing only 2 her for Orange Co.: http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_parcel_by_owner But when I looked for an address for one of the ZG, I came up with 422 Regal Downs Circle in Winter Garden which is owned by people from NY. Gloria Gonzales is quite the land owner too. Take a look. Oh, and Victor? How about one with connections to Florida and NY that is a photographer.
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Zuben,
I know you keep finding ZG and GG involved with real estate. I notice in Casey/Amy text msgs. on May 19 – Casey texted “It’s off of Conway & Michigan” referring to a house/apt that she and Amy were going to rent/buy. Didn’t Kc point to 4400 Michigan as GG’s place?
Frank McK or TF is very interesting. I hope your old email is still available. I’m going to send you what I stumbled on tonight. It just keeps getting better and better..lol
Yes. The detective’s report says she pointed out a retirement village as being where ZG lived with GG in the past but that was only a block away from the address I found GG owned. That would be an easy mistake to make as time passes, or perhaps she was afraid to point out the exact spot. But, if she was simply lying about everything, using all these details as a part of a cover up of her premeditated murder she would surely not make this mistake.
You might have to take me out of moderation or spam since I’m using a new address. I decided to shut the other one down because I now believe my family account was accessed through this one. Another person had the same thing happen to both his and his wife’s account, the hacker gaining access to the wife’s through his account with the same server as my address with you. Their fraudulent emails also had the same Canadian Pharmacy link in them. Fortunately, I found no sign of worms, trojans or viruses on my computer. I don’t understand why I was never locked out of my account, the password not changed or any of the normal things that happen if this was the usual type of mail hijack. I asked this other person if either he or his wife have blogged about a certain high profile murder case or anyone indirectly involved but he didn’t answer. He was probably more concerned with reclaiming his business email account. To be on the safe side, block my old address. It is already closed. Would you please resend that mail to this address? I’d like to see it. Also, if you haven’t deleted your spam or emails, please do a search for myhealthcare-c to see if you got an email with that link in it. If so I would love for you to forward the body and the full header, which is much longer than the normal header in the email body. This will show the originating IP. I’ve also written WFTV asking if they deleted posts written under my ID on June 14. It is just too much to be a coincidence that the hack to my email would be the same day.
Hello Zee,
I’ll resend today. Thank you.
Hey JB, your readers are curious as well. Nice to read a blog that isn’t overloaded with fighting and insults. Great job.
Well, the emails almost deserve a thread of their own but since I already posting something about them here I’ll add what a friend just showed me from topix. There seems to be some scamers using the names Juliet Lewis and Jef Hopkins, giving himself the grand title, Sir. Thanks to wignshouldbeafbi agent on pages 912 and 939. Here are the links to where I believe he/she might have found them.
http://www.romancescam.com/blog/index.php?&p=44 see sweetjully, Juliet Lewis The IP address traces to Nigeria by the way. What person in the A family got sucked i by a Nigerian? She is listed here on a scam email address list: http://www.harleytraderonline.com/scam_alert.htm These are fake buyers answering classified ads, asking the seller to accept a fake cashiers check written for and amount over the selling price and write them a check for the difference.
http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=24514&start=30 See 2 entries for Sir Jeff Hopkins. Google tells me there is a 49 year old Jeffrey Hopkins that is an ex attorney that pled guilty to real estate scams in 2005 too. Must be a popular name.
Oh, they were talking about your site quite the early part of June. I think it was about this thread.
And Thomas Frank Feb 11, 08 http://www.scamdex.com/scam-database/S/scam-email-09990.php .Notice proxad.net in the group of dangerous addresses linked to fake emails. this is the host of the IP found in the scams that were sent from my email. They have very poor grades among the internet community, of course, allowing things like this. Here is another one, Sept. 5, 08 http://scamalert.ceodata.com/scam/mail/12030-ScamEmailwithsubjectFROMMrThomasFrankfromthomasfrank.html
Zuben,
Really?? Nigerian & scam on the same site? Add Juliet Lewis and Jeff Hopkins? Crazy. Did you get my email @ ur new addy?
I think this trail into scams is significant enough. If LE found the phone # of one scam artist on KC’s phone, why wouldn’t they look into this? I looked at the amy/casey test msgs and her phone calls last night. I’m halfway believing it’s real. She’s looking for a house and maybe even a car. Where’s the $$ coming from, I don’t know. I noticed after July 1st, when she’s car-less @ Tony’s, FMck, and Frank are calling her. It would be nice to know what Patrick B looks like too? He might resemble someone??
Yes really. I wish they had the headers of the emails posted there too. I’d like to see the originating IP. Of course, there are ways to spoof that too, I think.
Yes, the email got there. I replied. Here is on page of McKeever http://www.myspace.com/mckeevercomedy he has a new wrap page and another one, I think. You’ll also find him getting exposed as a scam artist on some car forums. I believe he was also involved in real estate scams. Oh, and you can also find him in the court records. I’ve got all this written some place. My hard drive is getting full, LOL
PS, I’m also wondering if Thomas Franck is Frank McKeever. I can’t remember what made me wonder that though.
Here is a news article when he was 19. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-02-15/news/LBRIEFS15_6_1_clermont-mckeever-volunteer-firefighter Lights, siren bring charges for driver
Lake – In Brief
February 15, 2007
CLERMONT — Police pulled over a 19-year-old man late Tuesday and arrested him for impersonating a law-enforcement officer when he identified himself as a volunteer firefighter speeding to a call.
Frank McKeever of Clermont was driving with a siren and red and white lights activated when officers stopped him on Citrus Tower Boulevard and Steve’s Road about 10 p.m. Tuesday.
After McKeever told officers he was a volunteer firefighter, he said he was en route to conduct surveillance on a house for Crimeline, a police report said.
He’s moved around a little. I think this is him. http://www.peoplesearchpro.com/PSP.aspx?_act=step3fbgc Cancel what I said about him being in the court records. All I see there now is traffic, the other one is gone now. Hmmm
Here’s another interesting bit on this guy. I found him on a forum from 2008 trying to sell tires and he links his photobucket for anyone interested. DON’T click it though. It has three different viruses attached. When I looked them up they said they were for getting passwords or credit card info. Hmmmmm.
Sorry!!! DON’T CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Could you remove the link? It has the viruses attached. Here is the forum page I was talking about. Sorry again, It’s late.
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-114478.html
Thanks for deleting that link. Sorry, I’ll be more careful.
I noticed some photobucket links with pictures of Casey had the same virus attached. It was making the rounds of the forums back in 2008 as well. It also was listed as being used to harvest passwords and credit card info. I’m not going to post it here because it’s still active from what I can see, unless you want it.
This is just getting more involved and interesting with each search. I’m still wondering if these guys worked from their homes or if they were organized enough to have an office somewhere.
Wasn’t there something about JW being chased by police in Altamonte Springs? I don’t remember the details though.
The number 210 might be nothing or it could be a reference to Sawgrass apt. 210.
Do you remember what the name of the virus was? I’ve opened many of his photobucket links in the past and never got wind of anything parasitic in nature. He has the account set to private now but his pics listed in those forums are still live links last I saw. He has a rap myspace now too. It looks like that is his new livelihood.
May I ask a question? I’ve been reading here for awhile now and I wonder if you all think Casey is innocent or if you are just looking at alternatives?
This is the info Norton gives for both links I’ve found. One is the link I mentioned earlier, and one I found on a forum for Caylee from 2008. It’s two pictures of Casey that have been posted other places as well. I just happened on this link and it triggered my virus scan. I can send the link to that one to JB if she has a private e-mail if you guys want it.
Threat Report
Total threats found: 3
Small-whitebg-red Viruses (what’s this?)
Threats found: 3
Here is a complete list:
Threat Name: Bloodhound.Exploit.281
Location: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sillyhilly/5555.gif
Threat Name: Bloodhound.Exploit.281
Location: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Lynn-mee/pink__heart.gif
Threat Name: Bloodhound.Exploit.281
Location: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/deathbecomezher/Care%20Bear%20AVS/cid_083a01c49907a2f3e450e000a8c0dya.gif
Just wanted to add, I can link the forum and give you the post number if JB would rather have that. It’s up to her. As far as I can tell it’s still an active virus though. It’s a photobucket of a member of several other forums as well. I don’t know if it was linked elsewhere by this poster and they may not even know it had a virus.
Hmmm….I just found another one by a different poster, but on the same forum. Norton says the same thing about it.
Wow. Found another one, same forum, different poster. Norton says the same thing about all the links. I’ll check back in later to see if you want the forum and post numbers. This is just strange.
Another forum, same virus. Poster goes by the same name on both forums. This is bizarre.
That makes three of the larger crime forums I’ve found this link. I suppose it’s best to check all links at this point. I’ll be glad to send you the forum and poster names if you want. All I can say right now is wow. This would lead me to believe these scammers have been posting along side everyone all along. WOW. Everything I’ve found has been linked to photobucket.
Oh thank you Sunshine,
Yes please do. I’d like to know the name of this person. Good stuff, ty.
Hi EDRN,
I responded in the new post. Thank you for asking.
I did some searching for one of these links without the full address so I could see what comes up and to check it with my antivirus. I found an assessment of all these links stated by photobucket that Norton is giving a false report, quite common for Norto, by the way. It misses what is important and gives false positives. Every tech forum I’ve read steers people away from Norton and windows firewall and antivirus. Most advise comodo firewall, AVG antivirus along with spybot search and destroy, malwarebytes and a couple of other spyware programs. Adaware is good to but you can’t have it running in the background with sypbot because they conflict. So I have spybot search and destry partnering with AVG running all the time and use the others for occasional scans to do general house cleaning and when I suspect something is going on. I also keep another antivirus around so I can double check. No program finds everything everytime. But, AVG has a toolbar that is on my firefox browser that gives a green check to all sites that google brings up in my searches, that is safe or already cleared by AVG. It also puts up a huge warning saying get me out of her or the option to trust it anyway if you know it is safe. All that I have mentioned are free. Of course they could use donations, as a lot of work goes into keeping them up to date. They are the best available, IMO.
Here is a forum post about these links and false positive. They need to report it to Norton so they can correct their software. http://feedback.photobucket.com/forums/21854-photobucket/suggestions/819157-fix-it-so-that-norton-doesn-t-say-that-site-is-uns
That’s good info Zuben. I’ll still pass on to JB what I have and you guys can check it out for yourselves. It’s nice to have someone else look at things. That’s why I appreciate this blog. Please let me know in the comments when you’ve checked it out.
Hi JB, I’m looking for an e-mail to send you the name of the photobucket that is showing up as having a virus so Zuben can check it out. Is there one listed for you, or do you want to send a message to the e-mail I listed here? You can make a temporary one for safety if you want as well. Just let me know. I’ll check back here in a bit.
You’re welcome, Sunshine Jb used to have a contact address on the right side of the pages but I think when she tried out a new format it got left out.
JB, I would suggest you get a gmail address though. That way your home account isn’t vulnerable to attacks. Just don’t allow your home address to get into the gmail contacts, like I did, testing it out. I think that is how access was gained to that other account.
That’s a good idea Zuben. If it’s safer, JB can use a gmail and send it to the one I used to leave a comment. However you feel is safest is fine. I just don’t want to post that photobucket name without knowing if it’s a false positive. I’m running errands so I’ll check back in a bit.
Zub and JB are the greatest imo, the haters simply cannot reconcile the facts of this case because it means what they thought for so many years was completely and totally incorrect. Keep up the great job you are both doing. God bless.